How would you like it if they paid you just enough to get by, demanded full rights to all your songs, and then after raking in substantial profits, they told you that you owed them money?
Sounds pretty sweet! How much would I get for whining about it ten years later on "Behind the Music" on VH1?
"That was the lowest point in my life... but sometimes it's only when you hit rock bottom that you stop sinking and pick yourself up."
And would PBS broadcast one of our "reunion tour" concerts during their pledge-drive weeks? That would also rock.
When the Grateful Dead released the album "Touch of Gray" in the late 1980s, they had a couple big radio hits off it.
Some of their old fans accused them of "selling out," to which Jerry Garcia replied, "hey, we've been trying to sell out for years, it's just that nobody was buying."
Performance artists has always been about getting paid, not about creating something which will hang on a church ceiling forever. Shakespeare wrote his plays to make a quick buck, not to give you something to study in Middle School English classes. The fact that the stuff he wrote was good enough to be worth forcing on bored 12-year olds is strictly the gravy. Wealthy royalty paid him cash money to parade around in tights on a stage and show off his skills, so he wrote plays which the royalty would like. Hippies like you can call that "selling out" if you like, but I won't.
I imagine you could make 30-50,000 a year between sales of your music and merchandise and show tickets, if you had a decent content delivery system and you kept putting out good music the money would keep flowing in.. Just so you know i am also an indie rocker, and no, i wouldnt sign a contract with the RIAA...there ARE better ways, if youa are good and love the music you CAN make a living without being a whore.
Yeah, but then I would have to put the effort into making good music. I just want to force feed the crap I'm making now into the public conscious, become wealthy, and act like a total ass for the rest of my life.
So, do you make 30-50K per year as an indie artist, or are you just "imagining" that you can?
Heh. I would love to have a Bachelor of Arts in Computer Programming to go with my Bachelor of Science in Music.:)
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I'm with you. I would cheerfully pay an extra ten cents (or so) per song and put up with the longer download times if I had the option to get iTMS stuff encoded with either FLAC or the "Apple Lossless Format."
In fact, I'm going to send an e-mail to the iTMS sales support folks saying exactly that, and I suggest you do the same.
Our favorite music is owned and operated by an industry who cares more about money than music.
I write software for a living, and guess what? I care about money more than software.
You are welcome to work at whatever craft you do for free all you like, but professional musicians (and yes, professional music sales executives) have a right to charge for their work by whatever means they consider to best suit them.
The artists who write and play this music have sold their souls to this industry.
As the leader of a small-time garage band, I would LOVE to have a label come along and "exploit" us with a five-year, multi-million dollar record contract, even if it meant seeing every (crappy) song I ever wrote locked down by eeeeeevil DRM layers. There's no way schmucks like you are ever going to hear my music unless I "sell my soul" to the record industry, because I don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend on marketing and promotion.
Douglas Adam's joke is ruined by the currently accepted theory that the universe is finite.
Nevertheless it is really really big and really really empty, so life in the Universe can still be rounded down to zero. We probably are alone, and if not, we will probably never know it.
True, but the various "send shit out into space" projects don't have a funky and well-known name, and I was having too much fun with my rant to get bogged down with facts. (Or, as I see while reading it again, grammar.)
Odds are, there's nobody out there listening. Seriously. Space is really big and really empty. The nearest star with a planet is mind-numbingly far away, and the nearest star likely to have a planet which supports life as we know it is even farther away. It's a safe bet that one would need to go yet even farther to find a planet where even tool-users have evolved, let alone an advanced civilization.
If anybody out there is able to get the and reply anytime soon, then they are probably sufficiently advanced that they would probably regard us as little more than animals. Very noisy animals. They will simply blow up the Earth to stop us from hogging bandwith with out SETI broadcasts.
How is that a restriction? Re-encoding is always a bad idea if you care about sound quality.
You can do everything with an Apple AAC file that you can with a CD, because you can burn it to standard CD format. It's a lower quality file, and doesn't handle re-encoding very well, but the DRM does not prevent you from doing anything with it that you could do with a CD, which is the point that was originally being attempted.
Its also extremely unbalanced, Alliance out numbers Horde 2:1.
Nobody is saying why.
I'm happy to spell it out, though:
Cute female avatars.
The human female is a hottie, and the gnome girls are adorable. Also, the drow elves (who are on the Alliance side) move like strippers.
Lots and lots of MMORPG players, male and female, like playing attractive female characters in these sorts of games. This is the case for a lot of reasons, but it should come as a surprise to nobody who has been paying attention to the game industry since well before Lara Croft.
Nobody likes playing a cow, which believe it or not is the very best female option on the Horde side. If WoW had made the succubus a female counterpart to one of the horde races, instead of using it for a summoned monster, I suspect that ration would be a lot more even.
Forget the quests, the refinements, the character transfers, and Blizzard still wins over EQ and/or EQ because of four little words:
Cross Platform Mac Support
Yes, I know that almost no serious gamer uses Macs anymore, but almost everybody has a couple of friends with nothing to game on but a G4 iMac, and WoW allows you to log in and have those friends game along with you. EQ and EQ2 do not, and from the looks of things, they never will.
Speaking of which, I'm almost done constructing my home theater, using a Mac mini (1.42 version) as the media console. I will soon be logging in to the Silverhand server on a 119" widescreen!:)
A related point is that burning and re-encoding introduces further degradation so it isn't really possible to give the music away or sell it as you can with a CD. At least not without tarnishing it.
Play me a note, and I can't always tell you what it is, but I can easily sing you a perfect major ninth up from it, or a minor third down from it, or whatever, even if the starting note is "out of tune" according to your guitar tuner.
Fortunately, while perfect pitch is hard to acquire, relative pitch is a skill you can learn.
Speaking as a person who has scored well enough on a few tests to get into MENSA, and as somebody who likes to think of himself as a pretty good musician, I think you are somewhat correct in saying that IQ does not reflect the full range of human potential, but it's not supposed to.
Intelligence tests are written as a best effort to quantify a person's logical problem-solving ability. They are not perfect metrics, but they do give a pretty good indication.
Artistic expression and similar crafts, such as cooking, do not really utilize these sorts of skills very much, with the possible exception (to a limited extent) of composition or improvisation, where creativity demands use of applied knowledge.
The thing to remember is that IQ has nothing at all to do with your value as a human being. (Unless you are one of those tiresome fucks who read a few too many Ayn Rand novels in college.) MENSA people just want to have a social club which includes people like themselves. The fact that they have created a somewhat arbitrary obstacle to joining is not so unusual, a lot of clubs to that sort of thing. You have to win at The Masters if you want one of those ugly yellow jackets.
All that said, I have no interest in joining MENSA. I have enough friends without joining crap like that, thank you.
This is true, but it isn't what the original poster was saying. He said he can't give away or lend DRM 'd music.
Yes, he can.
He can with CDs. The point remains that he is restricted by DRM.
No, he's not
I would also say that what he has restricted from had been a good thing and he is thus deprived.
I would say that too, if I didn't know the facts.
Here's the fact you either didn't know or are ignoring: The DRM in Apple's files allows you to burn them as unprotected AIFF files to CD, after which they can by played by anybody. Loan them to whoever you like, no restrictions.
If your friend wants a nice, space-efficient AAC file on their own iPod, they can either re-encode it or else buy their own copy.
I cant give away my music to my friends. I can give away or sell my used CD's
I cant lend DRM'd music to someone. I can lend a CD.
If the future of music is DRM, then these activities will no longer be legal.
Step 1: Burn the songs from iTMS to a CD.
Step 2: Lend and/or give that CD to your friend.
Step 3: There's no step 3.
In other words, nothing you just said about DRM'd songs from iTMS is true, and you are full of shit. Everybody who moderated you up is doing so in ignorance.
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How would you like it if they paid you just enough to get by, demanded full rights to all your songs, and then after raking in substantial profits, they told you that you owed them money?
Sounds pretty sweet! How much would I get for whining about it ten years later on "Behind the Music" on VH1?
"That was the lowest point in my life... but sometimes it's only when you hit rock bottom that you stop sinking and pick yourself up."
And would PBS broadcast one of our "reunion tour" concerts during their pledge-drive weeks? That would also rock.
In an art, this is called "selling out."
When the Grateful Dead released the album "Touch of Gray" in the late 1980s, they had a couple big radio hits off it.
Some of their old fans accused them of "selling out," to which Jerry Garcia replied, "hey, we've been trying to sell out for years, it's just that nobody was buying."
Performance artists has always been about getting paid, not about creating something which will hang on a church ceiling forever. Shakespeare wrote his plays to make a quick buck, not to give you something to study in Middle School English classes. The fact that the stuff he wrote was good enough to be worth forcing on bored 12-year olds is strictly the gravy. Wealthy royalty paid him cash money to parade around in tights on a stage and show off his skills, so he wrote plays which the royalty would like. Hippies like you can call that "selling out" if you like, but I won't.
I imagine you could make 30-50,000 a year between sales of your music and merchandise and show tickets, if you had a decent content delivery system and you kept putting out good music the money would keep flowing in.. Just so you know i am also an indie rocker, and no, i wouldnt sign a contract with the RIAA...there ARE better ways, if youa are good and love the music you CAN make a living without being a whore.
Yeah, but then I would have to put the effort into making good music. I just want to force feed the crap I'm making now into the public conscious, become wealthy, and act like a total ass for the rest of my life.
So, do you make 30-50K per year as an indie artist, or are you just "imagining" that you can?
Heh. I would love to have a Bachelor of Arts in Computer Programming to go with my Bachelor of Science in Music. :)
I'm with you. I would cheerfully pay an extra ten cents (or so) per song and put up with the longer download times if I had the option to get iTMS stuff encoded with either FLAC or the "Apple Lossless Format."
In fact, I'm going to send an e-mail to the iTMS sales support folks saying exactly that, and I suggest you do the same.
Our favorite music is owned and operated by an industry who cares more about money than music.
I write software for a living, and guess what? I care about money more than software.
You are welcome to work at whatever craft you do for free all you like, but professional musicians (and yes, professional music sales executives) have a right to charge for their work by whatever means they consider to best suit them.
The artists who write and play this music have sold their souls to this industry.
As the leader of a small-time garage band, I would LOVE to have a label come along and "exploit" us with a five-year, multi-million dollar record contract, even if it meant seeing every (crappy) song I ever wrote locked down by eeeeeevil DRM layers. There's no way schmucks like you are ever going to hear my music unless I "sell my soul" to the record industry, because I don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend on marketing and promotion.
g/marketing and promotion/s//payola/
"Finite and unbounded" was Einstein's model, and nobody's come up with a compelling reason to think otherwise so far.
Douglas Adam's joke is ruined by the currently accepted theory that the universe is finite.
Nevertheless it is really really big and really really empty, so life in the Universe can still be rounded down to zero. We probably are alone, and if not, we will probably never know it.
True, but the various "send shit out into space" projects don't have a funky and well-known name, and I was having too much fun with my rant to get bogged down with facts. (Or, as I see while reading it again, grammar.)
Stop announcing that we are here.
Odds are, there's nobody out there listening. Seriously. Space is really big and really empty. The nearest star with a planet is mind-numbingly far away, and the nearest star likely to have a planet which supports life as we know it is even farther away. It's a safe bet that one would need to go yet even farther to find a planet where even tool-users have evolved, let alone an advanced civilization.
If anybody out there is able to get the and reply anytime soon, then they are probably sufficiently advanced that they would probably regard us as little more than animals. Very noisy animals. They will simply blow up the Earth to stop us from hogging bandwith with out SETI broadcasts.
So please, for the sake of humanity, STFU.
"hoo-(gutteral stop)-SAY"
It's Klingon for "the editors here can't spell."
And the first Google hit for the same question (after the paid ad):
Intel Announces Fastest Pentium® II Xeon(TM) Processor
Wow, Google found a CPU which is 50 MHz faster. A clear win!
How is that a restriction? Re-encoding is always a bad idea if you care about sound quality.
You can do everything with an Apple AAC file that you can with a CD, because you can burn it to standard CD format. It's a lower quality file, and doesn't handle re-encoding very well, but the DRM does not prevent you from doing anything with it that you could do with a CD, which is the point that was originally being attempted.
Its also extremely unbalanced, Alliance out numbers Horde 2:1.
Nobody is saying why.
I'm happy to spell it out, though:
Cute female avatars.
The human female is a hottie, and the gnome girls are adorable. Also, the drow elves (who are on the Alliance side) move like strippers.
Lots and lots of MMORPG players, male and female, like playing attractive female characters in these sorts of games. This is the case for a lot of reasons, but it should come as a surprise to nobody who has been paying attention to the game industry since well before Lara Croft.
Nobody likes playing a cow, which believe it or not is the very best female option on the Horde side. If WoW had made the succubus a female counterpart to one of the horde races, instead of using it for a summoned monster, I suspect that ration would be a lot more even.
Forget the quests, the refinements, the character transfers, and Blizzard still wins over EQ and/or EQ because of four little words:
:)
Cross
Platform
Mac
Support
Yes, I know that almost no serious gamer uses Macs anymore, but almost everybody has a couple of friends with nothing to game on but a G4 iMac, and WoW allows you to log in and have those friends game along with you. EQ and EQ2 do not, and from the looks of things, they never will.
Speaking of which, I'm almost done constructing my home theater, using a Mac mini (1.42 version) as the media console. I will soon be logging in to the Silverhand server on a 119" widescreen!
Thanks. I'm obviously not a golf fan.
A related point is that burning and re-encoding introduces further degradation so it isn't really possible to give the music away or sell it as you can with a CD. At least not without tarnishing it.
Sure there is. Just don't re-encode it.
Perfect pitch is overrated.
What a musician needs is relative pitch.
Play me a note, and I can't always tell you what it is, but I can easily sing you a perfect major ninth up from it, or a minor third down from it, or whatever, even if the starting note is "out of tune" according to your guitar tuner.
Fortunately, while perfect pitch is hard to acquire, relative pitch is a skill you can learn.
Speaking as a person who has scored well enough on a few tests to get into MENSA, and as somebody who likes to think of himself as a pretty good musician, I think you are somewhat correct in saying that IQ does not reflect the full range of human potential, but it's not supposed to.
Intelligence tests are written as a best effort to quantify a person's logical problem-solving ability. They are not perfect metrics, but they do give a pretty good indication.
Artistic expression and similar crafts, such as cooking, do not really utilize these sorts of skills very much, with the possible exception (to a limited extent) of composition or improvisation, where creativity demands use of applied knowledge.
The thing to remember is that IQ has nothing at all to do with your value as a human being. (Unless you are one of those tiresome fucks who read a few too many Ayn Rand novels in college.) MENSA people just want to have a social club which includes people like themselves. The fact that they have created a somewhat arbitrary obstacle to joining is not so unusual, a lot of clubs to that sort of thing. You have to win at The Masters if you want one of those ugly yellow jackets.
All that said, I have no interest in joining MENSA. I have enough friends without joining crap like that, thank you.
This is true, but it isn't what the original poster was saying. He said he can't give away or lend DRM 'd music.
Yes, he can.
He can with CDs. The point remains that he is restricted by DRM.
No, he's not
I would also say that what he has restricted from had been a good thing and he is thus deprived.
I would say that too, if I didn't know the facts.
Here's the fact you either didn't know or are ignoring: The DRM in Apple's files allows you to burn them as unprotected AIFF files to CD, after which they can by played by anybody. Loan them to whoever you like, no restrictions.
If your friend wants a nice, space-efficient AAC file on their own iPod, they can either re-encode it or else buy their own copy.
I cant give away my music to my friends.
I can give away or sell my used CD's
I cant lend DRM'd music to someone.
I can lend a CD.
If the future of music is DRM, then these
activities will no longer be legal.
Step 1: Burn the songs from iTMS to a CD.
Step 2: Lend and/or give that CD to your friend.
Step 3: There's no step 3.
In other words, nothing you just said about DRM'd songs from iTMS is true, and you are full of shit. Everybody who moderated you up is doing so in ignorance.
That would have been a good one, yeah.
:)
Don't you love how you can use long-dead slashdot threads as your own personal chat-room?
I've got that pun beat.
I made a T-shirt a few months back which says:
"JESUS SAVES.
Roll d6 damage per level and divide by two."
But if you packed a d20 specifically for this, it means you had put way too much thought behind this idea.
;)
Who's to say the dude doesn't have a complete set of dice with him at all times, just in case a game breaks out?
Besides, going clubbing with one of those cloth dice bags hanging on the side of your belt is a hot "metrosexual" look that some chicks dig.
Ouch, looks like I struck a nerve there. Buck up, camper. I was only making a funny.