It's not about blaming Microsoft or Windows, or Linux for that matter. Well, not just that. It's about what system is more stable.
And yes, Microsoft is partially to blame because they made an architectural and business choice only to be in control of a small set of essential drivers. Linus on the other hand wants drivers in his tree. Linus' central control results in him (or his lieutenants) having the ability to throw code back at the driver developer and laugh at them cruely until they fix it. It's a pain in the ass to use third party drivers. Having them in the kernel makes my life easier, and it increases the quality of the code because the kernel maintainer community have high standards.
Furthermore the architectural choice of using the GPL for Linux means that if there are bugs in drivers anyone with an appropriate clue can fix them. In the Windows world this is not possible.
As I said, most of Linux is drivers. No, I wouldn't blame the VM maintainer for a driver problem, but if Linux had no buggy hardware drivers then it would crash even less than it does, which is less frequent than Windows already.
So what I'm saying is that it's not reasonable to discount driver problems in Windows if you don't do the same for Linux, or any other operating system kernel of comparison. That Windows drivers are third-party is not a good reason to give Windows leeway in a comparison.
So you're saying we can discount all hardware driver problems in Linux too? I hope so. I mean, the largest part of Linux is hardware drivers, and I've never had a Linux problem that wasn't driver-related. I'm willing to bet almost all Linux problems (in the stable release) are driver-related.
Same goes for Windows.
I think you're trying to cover up things by ignoring hardware-driver crashes.
Yeah you're right, but it's still too many clicks. Maybe I'm missing some preference that let's you select a preferred mirror for downloads and do the right-click/copy straight from the project files page.
I use wget all the time, even when I'm working with an X11 browser.
If I'm ever downloading something, be it music from Magnatune, source code for some handy utility that Debian hasn't already got packaged, images from someone's website that look useful, I constantly find myself firing up an xterm, cding into the appropriate directory, creating any subdirectories (this is all so much faster on the command line than pissing about in GUI file selectors), typing "wget ", right click-copy on the link in the browser and paste into the xterm. Than back to browsing. No irritating download managers putting files where you don't want them and that sort if inane stuff.
You can even emulate a "download manager" but just appending a whole list of stuff to download on the wget command line.
What I hate is Sourceforge's prdownload stuff that has you getting through all that then doing a redirect to force a browser-based download. I wish they wouldn't do that.
I won't be coming to your house because you live thousands of miles away.
Why do you read violent intent in what I said? I was simply responding to your invitation to do you harm, by declining it.
What makes you think I want to stop you speaking your mind? I for one fully support the First Amendment. Say what you like. I'll say what I like in return.
Shoot me for doing anything other than pointing a gun at you or holding a knife to your throat, and I would hope and expect you to cook in that electric chair your people love to turn on.
Anyway, thanks for completely ignoring the content of my posts, and instead reacting in an exaggeratedly agressive manner. I've read your posts and it looks like you're not a sexually-frustrated teenager (you have a wife... but then the two are not mutually exclusive). However it does look like you are probably some kind of psychopath.
You haven't proven yourself to be lowlife, because I don't think you understood my post, so I grant you the benefit of the doubt. You have proven yourself to be very immature, though, if not actually stupid.
Greed is good. And what are you going to do about? Come to my house and beat me up for saying something you don't like?
I'll gladly come over and explain what I mean, if it's not too far from here. Where do you live? I won't beat you up though, because by your aggresive attitude you are probably a sexually-frustrated 15-year old, and I wouldn't want to break you.
You, and everyone like you that says "greed is good", are either mistaken as to the meaning of the word "greed", or lowlife.
Greed is taking more than your just deserves. It is taking food from the hungry because you still have a little room to squeeze some more down your fat neck.
Stop saying "greed is good". A better phrase might be "desire for wealth is good". Not that that's necessarily the case, of course, because what's "good" is totally subjective to the person, or group of people, who is trying to be "good".
A desire for wealth doesn't mean a desire to cheat, steal, or take more than your fair share. Greed does.
If you still think that "greed is good", then I think you're "lowlife". That's subjective too, but that's the way I feel about it!
I see no reason why the "innovations" you mention would not have happened under a properly state-controlled monopoly. I grant that state-control is rarely practised well, but I don't see that as inherent to the concept.
Remember that BT is still the monopoly network provider. If a service isn't supported on BTs network then NO-ONE can sell it. Most of their competitors are just glorified sales, marketing and customer service congolomerates.
I remember the last company I worked for, we moved to Thus from BT for Internet provision. What was the largest source of outages? BT failures. These companies don't have cables! OK, maybe short ones.
And tell me, if the "local loop" is a natural monopoly, how is the trunk not? Why is it sensible to have competition on the most geographically distributed infrastructure of them all?
Competition can't drive prices down below cost+profit margin. You're right - competition does produce innovation, but we don't need innovation in the telephone network. We need a stable system with gradual improvement at a low cost.
For most people, the savings to be made are not worth the time and effort involved in keeping up with changes to calling plans and actually changing suppliers.
Over 70% of the UK are still with BT, in spite of the artifical market.
I don't love BT at all. It's simply that the economies of a market in a natural monopoly don't add up.
But the Linux Audio people still recommend 2.4.xx with low-latency and preempt over 2.6. However I've had weird USB problems with that particular combination.
APT for RPM is cool and all, but from my (admittedly very limited experience) the dependency information is not particularly good. I have never, in four years, had a dependency information problem in Debian, whether stable, testing or unstable. I have read two or three bug reports showing these problems, true, but they appear to be fixed almost instantaneously.
In contrast, my sole experience of Fedora was identifying an APT dependency issue for a friend.
it was BT, Britain's monopolist telephone company. A phone company that makes you pay by the second for local calls.
Telephony is something I consider a natural monopoly, that should be either state-run or under strict state governance.
Same for energy supply. Phones, gas and electricity in the UK are a disaster now that the artificial market has been created. Everyone tries to cover up the true cost by introducing bonuses for taking two services from one company, "friends and family" discounts, cheap international calls, and so on. It's impossible to compare costs.
Anyway, if you have telephony from a cable company, they generally give you free calls to other cable customers.
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It's not about blaming Microsoft or Windows, or Linux for that matter. Well, not just that. It's about what system is more stable.
And yes, Microsoft is partially to blame because they made an architectural and business choice only to be in control of a small set of essential drivers. Linus on the other hand wants drivers in his tree. Linus' central control results in him (or his lieutenants) having the ability to throw code back at the driver developer and laugh at them cruely until they fix it. It's a pain in the ass to use third party drivers. Having them in the kernel makes my life easier, and it increases the quality of the code because the kernel maintainer community have high standards.
Furthermore the architectural choice of using the GPL for Linux means that if there are bugs in drivers anyone with an appropriate clue can fix them. In the Windows world this is not possible.
So stop apologising for Microsoft.
As I said, most of Linux is drivers. No, I wouldn't blame the VM maintainer for a driver problem, but if Linux had no buggy hardware drivers then it would crash even less than it does, which is less frequent than Windows already.
So what I'm saying is that it's not reasonable to discount driver problems in Windows if you don't do the same for Linux, or any other operating system kernel of comparison. That Windows drivers are third-party is not a good reason to give Windows leeway in a comparison.
I'm afraid we still do. EBCDIC is alive and well in mainframe shops like mine.
Well, to be accurate you'd have to say he's ABENDed.
So you're saying we can discount all hardware driver problems in Linux too? I hope so. I mean, the largest part of Linux is hardware drivers, and I've never had a Linux problem that wasn't driver-related. I'm willing to bet almost all Linux problems (in the stable release) are driver-related.
Same goes for Windows.
I think you're trying to cover up things by ignoring hardware-driver crashes.
Some of the headgear I've seen your dentists give out...
hey, they're not my dentists, mine are British too, except my kiss is of the East Coast class.
Yeah, but they're selling Lindows, which is hardly a true geeks distro.
Where does this idea come from? I mean, OK, I'm British and my teeth are a shambles, but I'm only a single data point.
Yeah you're right, but it's still too many clicks. Maybe I'm missing some preference that let's you select a preferred mirror for downloads and do the right-click/copy straight from the project files page.
I use wget all the time, even when I'm working with an X11 browser.
If I'm ever downloading something, be it music from Magnatune, source code for some handy utility that Debian hasn't already got packaged, images from someone's website that look useful, I constantly find myself firing up an xterm, cding into the appropriate directory, creating any subdirectories (this is all so much faster on the command line than pissing about in GUI file selectors), typing "wget ", right click-copy on the link in the browser and paste into the xterm. Than back to browsing. No irritating download managers putting files where you don't want them and that sort if inane stuff.
You can even emulate a "download manager" but just appending a whole list of stuff to download on the wget command line.
What I hate is Sourceforge's prdownload stuff that has you getting through all that then doing a redirect to force a browser-based download. I wish they wouldn't do that.
That isn't evil, any more than its evil for a polar bear to eat a penguin. But the penguins don't like it.
Not evil, but definitely unlikely.
Polar Bears - Arctic. Penguins - Antarctic!
Nah, he's not a troll, he's just a fucking idiot.
You lost.
I won't be coming to your house because you live thousands of miles away.
Why do you read violent intent in what I said? I was simply responding to your invitation to do you harm, by declining it.
What makes you think I want to stop you speaking your mind? I for one fully support the First Amendment. Say what you like. I'll say what I like in return.
Shoot me for doing anything other than pointing a gun at you or holding a knife to your throat, and I would hope and expect you to cook in that electric chair your people love to turn on.
Anyway, thanks for completely ignoring the content of my posts, and instead reacting in an exaggeratedly agressive manner. I've read your posts and it looks like you're not a sexually-frustrated teenager (you have a wife... but then the two are not mutually exclusive). However it does look like you are probably some kind of psychopath.
You haven't proven yourself to be lowlife, because I don't think you understood my post, so I grant you the benefit of the doubt. You have proven yourself to be very immature, though, if not actually stupid.
Greed is good. And what are you going to do about? Come to my house and beat me up for saying something you don't like?
I'll gladly come over and explain what I mean, if it's not too far from here. Where do you live? I won't beat you up though, because by your aggresive attitude you are probably a sexually-frustrated 15-year old, and I wouldn't want to break you.
You, and everyone like you that says "greed is good", are either mistaken as to the meaning of the word "greed", or lowlife.
Greed is taking more than your just deserves. It is taking food from the hungry because you still have a little room to squeeze some more down your fat neck.
Stop saying "greed is good". A better phrase might be "desire for wealth is good". Not that that's necessarily the case, of course, because what's "good" is totally subjective to the person, or group of people, who is trying to be "good".
A desire for wealth doesn't mean a desire to cheat, steal, or take more than your fair share. Greed does.
If you still think that "greed is good", then I think you're "lowlife". That's subjective too, but that's the way I feel about it!
I see no reason why the "innovations" you mention would not have happened under a properly state-controlled monopoly. I grant that state-control is rarely practised well, but I don't see that as inherent to the concept.
Remember that BT is still the monopoly network provider. If a service isn't supported on BTs network then NO-ONE can sell it. Most of their competitors are just glorified sales, marketing and customer service congolomerates.
I remember the last company I worked for, we moved to Thus from BT for Internet provision. What was the largest source of outages? BT failures. These companies don't have cables! OK, maybe short ones.
And tell me, if the "local loop" is a natural monopoly, how is the trunk not? Why is it sensible to have competition on the most geographically distributed infrastructure of them all?
Competition can't drive prices down below cost+profit margin. You're right - competition does produce innovation, but we don't need innovation in the telephone network. We need a stable system with gradual improvement at a low cost.
For most people, the savings to be made are not worth the time and effort involved in keeping up with changes to calling plans and actually changing suppliers.
Over 70% of the UK are still with BT, in spite of the artifical market.
I don't love BT at all. It's simply that the economies of a market in a natural monopoly don't add up.
I'd guess it's pretty good for a server.
As a desktop, I've had no problems either.
But the Linux Audio people still recommend 2.4.xx with low-latency and preempt over 2.6. However I've had weird USB problems with that particular combination.
Was 2.6 not released in December?
Yes, it was:
ChangeLog-2.6.0 17-Dec-2003 19:04 12K
APT for RPM is cool and all, but from my (admittedly very limited experience) the dependency information is not particularly good. I have never, in four years, had a dependency information problem in Debian, whether stable, testing or unstable. I have read two or three bug reports showing these problems, true, but they appear to be fixed almost instantaneously.
In contrast, my sole experience of Fedora was identifying an APT dependency issue for a friend.
Have you tried the Universal Operating System?
Ooops, I meant sand-gap sandbox.
That's a sandbox. Air-gap sandbox. Patented.
Do I have to take it out of cron now? If I put it in cron, but didn't write apt-get, am I exempt?
it was BT, Britain's monopolist telephone company. A phone company that makes you pay by the second for local calls.
Telephony is something I consider a natural monopoly, that should be either state-run or under strict state governance.
Same for energy supply. Phones, gas and electricity in the UK are a disaster now that the artificial market has been created. Everyone tries to cover up the true cost by introducing bonuses for taking two services from one company, "friends and family" discounts, cheap international calls, and so on. It's impossible to compare costs.
Anyway, if you have telephony from a cable company, they generally give you free calls to other cable customers.