Turings is fine. Which means the average person owns dozens if not hundreds of computers. So Apple's policy are far more generous than 99.9% of the computers in the market.
Microsoft is gating off a hardware eco system by encouraging a system that is deliberately difficult for Linux on desktops to support.
No they aren't. Its easy for them to support they pay $99, they have a key and they are done. That's not difficult at all. It is many orders of magnitude less difficult and costly than creating an operating system. It is orders of magnitude less difficult than a single driver. Microsoft is being very open and is making this almost trivial to comply with.
Moreover as I've said before, the Linux community has proven its self quite adept time and time again at circumventing much more complex restrictions easily.
Get a grip. About 30% of the congress is in support of a single payer solution. You have more economic liberals in power today than anytime since the early 1980s. In terms of championing progressive causes we just had the president of the United States come out in favor of game marriage and pass legislation protection homosexual rights in the US military.
I'm not sure how you are using the word "progressive" vs. "liberal" but if by progressive you mean the Progressive ideas of the early 20th century no... the last Progressive we had in power was (ironically enough) Dick Cheyenne with his ferocious support of the executive vs. the legislative branch and his tying together of various federal agencies into super structures. If by progressive you must mean leftist then the loss of Southern Democrats has made the Democratic party much more progressive than it has ever been.
The problem with America relative to the rest of the world is that American voters are well to the right on economic issues of the rest of the world. The Scott Walker recall failure in a light blue state being the best recent example.
That's the way the system used to be. Prior to 1965 we had 2 parties in america:
An economically liberal socially conservative party (Democrats) An economically moderate socially moderate party (Republicans)
Social and economic liberals were swing voters.
If you look at the breakdown of American political attitudes prior to 2008 (ideology changed as a result of the crash its unknown whether that change is permanent or not) that system would still have worked. The current breakdown is a terrible fit for the electorate of 1992-2007. It might be a good fit for the electorate of 2008+ if those changes are permanent.
Which is why elected officials don't draft regulations. They draft laws. At which point members of a permanent bureaucracy who are experts draft regulations. The problem is that with downsizing of government and the level of pay inequality in America we don't have a permanent bureaucracy anymore. Rather many of these regulators move in and out of corporate positions.
It is a complex problem, but it has nothing to do with intelligence.
Well, Apple's version of webkit I'd guess. And for me as a techie the big difference between say Firefox and Chrome is not the slightly different UI, it's the engine under the hood, so I stand by my comment:
I agree with you rendering engines are what's important. But then you should have said there are only 2 engines on iPhone. Browser is both the engine and the UI. There are real differences between Chrome and Safari even though they use the same engine. As for Firefox (Gecko) they most likely will get approval over the next decade. At some point they are going to pour the resources in to work with Apple on this. They are not going to not be meaningfully present on a large percentage of the browser space long term. Especially since I belief that Trident (IE) is going to go to iPhone as part of the whole "Microsoft Office for iPad" initiative and once there are 3 engines the Mozilla foundation's complaint will seem rather fallacious. But most likely to get there it means a full bore Apple audit of SpiderMonkey (their Java Script engine) after a platform specific rewrite. That's millions of dollars of work.
See something here?
Nope I'm not following you at all on this. I think you are mixing sarcasm, inference to an extent I'm not getting your point. Just say what you mean.
I agree. My point being in a transparent society eminent domain is what is used and they do get involved in that stink. I agree its not being used the way it used to be, but government in general is not doing being things. We need a lot of Robert Moses to get America back together again.
They actually have to first do things like have the key disappear for their to be antitrust complaints. Its like most crime. You have to actually commit it first before their can be punishment.
As for people being awake, they are awake. I don't think there is any failure to understand how much the potential for abuse exists. Part of the problem though is:
a) The Linux community so far as shown itself quite adapt at avoiding these sorts of restrictions on other devices. From the XBOX to the Playstation to the iPhone/iPad these technical blocks have not presented much difficulty.
b) The Linux community has alternative sources of hardware in place. Linux is a huge and very profitable player in both embedded and the server space so they are likely to remain in place.
c) The absolute worst case scenario is a situation where most run of the mill home machines are unable to run Unixes, but that Unix is readily available in the market for about the same money. Which is far better than what people lived with 1970-1995.
That you obviously bought the media spin that downplayed his association with the terrorist.
Barack Obama was born in 1961. The Weatherman underground disbanded in 1975. During many of their most active years 1967-1971 Obama lived in Indonesia. What exactly is the association that the media is failing to report?
As for Ayers not serving time, you were right about that one. As for not being punished he lost several of his best friends and spent years of his life in hiding, I'd say he was punished. In terms of some action now.. it was the escalating attacks by police in the late 1960s that led to the SDS forming a terrorist arm in the first place. I don't see any reason to want to start hostilities again. The police didn't want to go after the Weatherman because: a) They could and they would have put the police on trial as well for their illegal activities. b) Vietnam was over. The root cause was solved. America at that point wanted to go through a time of healing those wounds. The police need to maintain community support to do their other more important jobs effectively and siding with various factions had done damage to their effectiveness in the area of crime which is their primary function.
For some strange reason, the media eventually bought the spin that Obama attended the services for 20 years and had no idea he was supporting a black racist anti-semite, so the issue died rather quickly after Obama threw him under the bus.
I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy, and in some cases pain. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in the church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely—just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed. (Barack Obama, March 18, 2008 A more perfect union)
He denied having been present for some specific remarks.
Being a racist anti-semite is quite different from having one of the variety of kooky religious beliefs common in this country.
Black Nationalism is one of the variety of kooky religious beliefs common in this country. Its just one that's popular in the African American community and not the White Protestant community. So I don't see how this is quite different other than the specific community. As for anti-Semitism I don't see it in Wright. He's a strong anti-Zionist and anti-Colonialist but those views aren't uncommon among African Americans at all. If you limit yourself to Black Mainline churches it wouldn't shock me if those are the majority views.
Of course we have the power to enforce it. In fact arguably the last 3 congressional election cycles have been enforcing anti-corruption. Moderates, that is those politicians who are non idealogical and most susceptible to corporate influence have been getting their heads handed to them. Republican moderates in '06 and '08 Democratic moderates in '10. The result is a very polarized congress which is highly idealogical where most corporations are unable to effectuate the changes they want. Congress is much more difficult to navigate for most businesses in 2010 than it was in 2005. And the 2012 election looks poised to start replacing fund raising as a congressional duty at all. Instead we will have various billionaires permanently aligned with various ideologies and congressional candidates getting money on the basis of their ideology not specific one off votes. There ideology is highly public, and quite often their private and public positions are almost totally in alignment.
The Democrats just tried to pass that legislation, the Donor Disclose act. It was filibustered by the Republicans. So at least one party does want to pass that bill.
As for federal voter recall. We do have an impeachment system to remove rotton leaders. I'm kinda iffy about recalls since I think they require politicians to keep their popularity above 50% at all times. Rather than recalling officials a good thing might be federal ballot initiatives.
up to 16x the storage space 4x the RAM single core to dual core, each processor over twice as fast and more efficient custom video hardware added 2x the screen resolution in both directions.
As an aside that's what eminent domain laws are for. Real estate speculators lose their shirts when they try this since they get say 125% of what the land was taxed on the year before.
I'm sorry I fail to see how Ayers didn't get plenty of news coverage. There wasn't anything "new" about Ayers. The Weatherman and what they stood for were well known figures in the 1960s. Ayers did time and then became a Chicago politician in State Senator's Obama's district and they became friendly and worked projects together. There was some limited involvement during Obama's run for the national Senate and while in office as a Senator. The media reported this. What else was there to say?
As for Rev. Wright, Obama attended a very liberal black church with a black nationalist agenda. Mitt Romney attends a very conservative white church with a long history of kooky beliefs. Sarah Palin attended a Pentecostal church with a long history of kooky beliefs about witches. Bobby Jindel performs exorcisms. Rick Perry hosted an event whose keynote speaker believes the Japanese emperor has sex with demons and that's the cause of Japan's financial problems. Wright is only unique in his particular form of nutsyness. In general the media doesn't cover any religious issues in much detail because once described in an uncharitable way they all look remarkably stupid.
True. And that's a real restriction so far, no interpreters that run arbitrary network code. Though you can bypass this via using a file browser on your Mac and doing the downloads there. I disagree this is a permanent policy Apple at this point has a 5 year track record of slowly loosening restrictions. I think that's likely to continue.
My argument was their stances on issues needed to be cast differently to different audiences. Your argument was that politicians would want to associated with opposition research. Those don't contradict at all in fact they compliment each other.
Politicians brag about their op research and openly hire firms to do it, who brag about their op research. Politicians use op research to drive up their opponents negatives which is one way of avoiding discussing issues.
Don't know how much stuff they can write down. As long as the stock is in the pits taking write downs might make sense. My point was that their phones are profitable.
Well if they aren't then Microsoft's monopoly on PCs no longer exists.
That's possibly true. With Apple now in the leadership in the high end, tablets on the low end and the viability of Linux (even if the usage numbers are low) Microsoft could argue they don't have a monopoly. Right now it is ambiguous though, generally anti-trust lasts until it isn't ambiguous.
Maybe you should look up the definition of 'monopoly', it's not based on marketshare, it's based on market power...and given how much apple fanboys crow about they way in which virtually the entire tablet/smartphone industry is copying Apple that would definitely suggest they do indeed have a monopoly in that space.
OK where do I get an e-Ink based Apple tablet? Where do I get an Apple tablet with a built in keyboard and support for a stylus? How come Android's software model (decentralized) and Windows tablets (decentralized) are so different than the Apple model? It doesn't appear that everyone is copying Apple.
There are interpreters in the app store. Gambit scheme went through the approvals process. ND1 has 3 different interpreters including a JS interpreter. Codea which is a featured app that Apple strongly pushes towards a mainstream audience has a Lua interpreter.
Apple is reasonable. People can get what they want by working with them and compromising.
1) Penalties for crimes can go on long after the crimes are committed. Talk to anyone in prison about that. 2) Microsoft if they clearly cease being a monopoly would have these restrictions lifted. IBM no longer suffers under the anti-trust rulings against their computer monopoly from the 1960s.
As for Standard Oil they were broken up to destroy their monopoly status. Microsoft could have chosen that method of resolving the problems.
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Turings is fine. Which means the average person owns dozens if not hundreds of computers. So Apple's policy are far more generous than 99.9% of the computers in the market.
You can't have it both ways.
Microsoft is gating off a hardware eco system by encouraging a system that is deliberately difficult for Linux on desktops to support.
No they aren't. Its easy for them to support they pay $99, they have a key and they are done. That's not difficult at all. It is many orders of magnitude less difficult and costly than creating an operating system. It is orders of magnitude less difficult than a single driver. Microsoft is being very open and is making this almost trivial to comply with.
Moreover as I've said before, the Linux community has proven its self quite adept time and time again at circumventing much more complex restrictions easily.
I do own a business and I frequently have to pay competitors tens of thousands. In exchange they give me work I couldn't get on my own.
Similarly Microsoft is making available to Linux a huge desktop hardware eco system that Linux on desktops could never support.
Get a grip. About 30% of the congress is in support of a single payer solution. You have more economic liberals in power today than anytime since the early 1980s. In terms of championing progressive causes we just had the president of the United States come out in favor of game marriage and pass legislation protection homosexual rights in the US military.
I'm not sure how you are using the word "progressive" vs. "liberal" but if by progressive you mean the Progressive ideas of the early 20th century no... the last Progressive we had in power was (ironically enough) Dick Cheyenne with his ferocious support of the executive vs. the legislative branch and his tying together of various federal agencies into super structures. If by progressive you must mean leftist then the loss of Southern Democrats has made the Democratic party much more progressive than it has ever been.
The problem with America relative to the rest of the world is that American voters are well to the right on economic issues of the rest of the world. The Scott Walker recall failure in a light blue state being the best recent example.
That's the way the system used to be. Prior to 1965 we had 2 parties in america:
An economically liberal socially conservative party (Democrats)
An economically moderate socially moderate party (Republicans)
Social and economic liberals were swing voters.
If you look at the breakdown of American political attitudes prior to 2008 (ideology changed as a result of the crash its unknown whether that change is permanent or not) that system would still have worked. The current breakdown is a terrible fit for the electorate of 1992-2007. It might be a good fit for the electorate of 2008+ if those changes are permanent.
Which is why elected officials don't draft regulations. They draft laws. At which point members of a permanent bureaucracy who are experts draft regulations. The problem is that with downsizing of government and the level of pay inequality in America we don't have a permanent bureaucracy anymore. Rather many of these regulators move in and out of corporate positions.
It is a complex problem, but it has nothing to do with intelligence.
Well, Apple's version of webkit I'd guess. And for me as a techie the big difference between say Firefox and Chrome is not the slightly different UI, it's the engine under the hood, so I stand by my comment:
I agree with you rendering engines are what's important. But then you should have said there are only 2 engines on iPhone. Browser is both the engine and the UI. There are real differences between Chrome and Safari even though they use the same engine. As for Firefox (Gecko) they most likely will get approval over the next decade. At some point they are going to pour the resources in to work with Apple on this. They are not going to not be meaningfully present on a large percentage of the browser space long term. Especially since I belief that Trident (IE) is going to go to iPhone as part of the whole "Microsoft Office for iPad" initiative and once there are 3 engines the Mozilla foundation's complaint will seem rather fallacious. But most likely to get there it means a full bore Apple audit of SpiderMonkey (their Java Script engine) after a platform specific rewrite. That's millions of dollars of work.
See something here?
Nope I'm not following you at all on this. I think you are mixing sarcasm, inference to an extent I'm not getting your point. Just say what you mean.
I agree. My point being in a transparent society eminent domain is what is used and they do get involved in that stink. I agree its not being used the way it used to be, but government in general is not doing being things. We need a lot of Robert Moses to get America back together again.
They actually have to first do things like have the key disappear for their to be antitrust complaints. Its like most crime. You have to actually commit it first before their can be punishment.
As for people being awake, they are awake. I don't think there is any failure to understand how much the potential for abuse exists. Part of the problem though is:
a) The Linux community so far as shown itself quite adapt at avoiding these sorts of restrictions on other devices. From the XBOX to the Playstation to the iPhone/iPad these technical blocks have not presented much difficulty.
b) The Linux community has alternative sources of hardware in place. Linux is a huge and very profitable player in both embedded and the server space so they are likely to remain in place.
c) The absolute worst case scenario is a situation where most run of the mill home machines are unable to run Unixes, but that Unix is readily available in the market for about the same money. Which is far better than what people lived with 1970-1995.
The fears are overblown.
That you obviously bought the media spin that downplayed his association with the terrorist.
Barack Obama was born in 1961. The Weatherman underground disbanded in 1975. During many of their most active years 1967-1971 Obama lived in Indonesia. What exactly is the association that the media is failing to report?
As for Ayers not serving time, you were right about that one. As for not being punished he lost several of his best friends and spent years of his life in hiding, I'd say he was punished. In terms of some action now.. it was the escalating attacks by police in the late 1960s that led to the SDS forming a terrorist arm in the first place. I don't see any reason to want to start hostilities again. The police didn't want to go after the Weatherman because:
a) They could and they would have put the police on trial as well for their illegal activities.
b) Vietnam was over. The root cause was solved. America at that point wanted to go through a time of healing those wounds. The police need to maintain community support to do their other more important jobs effectively and siding with various factions had done damage to their effectiveness in the area of crime which is their primary function.
For some strange reason, the media eventually bought the spin that Obama attended the services for 20 years and had no idea he was supporting a black racist anti-semite, so the issue died rather quickly after Obama threw him under the bus.
He denied having been present for some specific remarks.
Being a racist anti-semite is quite different from having one of the variety of kooky religious beliefs common in this country.
Black Nationalism is one of the variety of kooky religious beliefs common in this country. Its just one that's popular in the African American community and not the White Protestant community. So I don't see how this is quite different other than the specific community. As for anti-Semitism I don't see it in Wright. He's a strong anti-Zionist and anti-Colonialist but those views aren't uncommon among African Americans at all. If you limit yourself to Black Mainline churches it wouldn't shock me if those are the majority views.
Of course we have the power to enforce it. In fact arguably the last 3 congressional election cycles have been enforcing anti-corruption. Moderates, that is those politicians who are non idealogical and most susceptible to corporate influence have been getting their heads handed to them. Republican moderates in '06 and '08 Democratic moderates in '10. The result is a very polarized congress which is highly idealogical where most corporations are unable to effectuate the changes they want. Congress is much more difficult to navigate for most businesses in 2010 than it was in 2005. And the 2012 election looks poised to start replacing fund raising as a congressional duty at all. Instead we will have various billionaires permanently aligned with various ideologies and congressional candidates getting money on the basis of their ideology not specific one off votes. There ideology is highly public, and quite often their private and public positions are almost totally in alignment.
So I'd say not only can we, we currently are.
The Democrats just tried to pass that legislation, the Donor Disclose act. It was filibustered by the Republicans. So at least one party does want to pass that bill.
As for federal voter recall. We do have an impeachment system to remove rotton leaders. I'm kinda iffy about recalls since I think they require politicians to keep their popularity above 50% at all times. Rather than recalling officials a good thing might be federal ballot initiatives.
up to 16x the storage space
4x the RAM
single core to dual core, each processor over twice as fast and more efficient
custom video hardware added
2x the screen resolution in both directions.
How exactly is that the same hardware?
And he'd tell you to go pound sand. Its not a government Blackberry and he has the same rights you do with regard to his private emails.
As an aside that's what eminent domain laws are for. Real estate speculators lose their shirts when they try this since they get say 125% of what the land was taxed on the year before.
I'm sorry I fail to see how Ayers didn't get plenty of news coverage. There wasn't anything "new" about Ayers. The Weatherman and what they stood for were well known figures in the 1960s. Ayers did time and then became a Chicago politician in State Senator's Obama's district and they became friendly and worked projects together. There was some limited involvement during Obama's run for the national Senate and while in office as a Senator. The media reported this. What else was there to say?
As for Rev. Wright, Obama attended a very liberal black church with a black nationalist agenda. Mitt Romney attends a very conservative white church with a long history of kooky beliefs. Sarah Palin attended a Pentecostal church with a long history of kooky beliefs about witches. Bobby Jindel performs exorcisms. Rick Perry hosted an event whose keynote speaker believes the Japanese emperor has sex with demons and that's the cause of Japan's financial problems. Wright is only unique in his particular form of nutsyness. In general the media doesn't cover any religious issues in much detail because once described in an uncharitable way they all look remarkably stupid.
True. And that's a real restriction so far, no interpreters that run arbitrary network code. Though you can bypass this via using a file browser on your Mac and doing the downloads there. I disagree this is a permanent policy Apple at this point has a 5 year track record of slowly loosening restrictions. I think that's likely to continue.
Well yeah. I agree it is a complex web of policy. I was just arguing against the original claim that there was no alternative browsers.
I can live with chop city in exchange for voice search (Sonar on Dolphin).
Remember the whole point is to create one-size-fits all laws and policies. That whittling down is the point.
My argument was their stances on issues needed to be cast differently to different audiences. Your argument was that politicians would want to associated with opposition research. Those don't contradict at all in fact they compliment each other.
Politicians brag about their op research and openly hire firms to do it, who brag about their op research.
Politicians use op research to drive up their opponents negatives which is one way of avoiding discussing issues.
I agree with you. But then again $99 isn't much money. This is mainly a lot of smoke about nothing.
Don't know how much stuff they can write down. As long as the stock is in the pits taking write downs might make sense. My point was that their phones are profitable.
Well if they aren't then Microsoft's monopoly on PCs no longer exists.
That's possibly true. With Apple now in the leadership in the high end, tablets on the low end and the viability of Linux (even if the usage numbers are low) Microsoft could argue they don't have a monopoly. Right now it is ambiguous though, generally anti-trust lasts until it isn't ambiguous.
Maybe you should look up the definition of 'monopoly', it's not based on marketshare, it's based on market power...and given how much apple fanboys crow about they way in which virtually the entire tablet/smartphone industry is copying Apple that would definitely suggest they do indeed have a monopoly in that space.
OK where do I get an e-Ink based Apple tablet? Where do I get an Apple tablet with a built in keyboard and support for a stylus? How come Android's software model (decentralized) and Windows tablets (decentralized) are so different than the Apple model? It doesn't appear that everyone is copying Apple.
There are interpreters in the app store. Gambit scheme went through the approvals process. ND1 has 3 different interpreters including a JS interpreter. Codea which is a featured app that Apple strongly pushes towards a mainstream audience has a Lua interpreter.
Apple is reasonable. People can get what they want by working with them and compromising.
1) Penalties for crimes can go on long after the crimes are committed. Talk to anyone in prison about that.
2) Microsoft if they clearly cease being a monopoly would have these restrictions lifted. IBM no longer suffers under the anti-trust rulings against their computer monopoly from the 1960s.
As for Standard Oil they were broken up to destroy their monopoly status. Microsoft could have chosen that method of resolving the problems.