If this goes that far the underlying OS will be a browser. Of course that browser will have to handle all sorts of other OS functionality but the difference between the browser and the OS will start to disappear. You know like active desktop from I.E. 4.
Wow I'm amazed that the NYTimes is in the range of $20b. By way of example the operating budget for the government of New York state is 18.5b. Where are you getting those figures?
No there was a big fire in the only factory that made the right glue for computer memory in 1993. Prices skyrocketed for the glue but the market was soon glutted. Not enough time.
I actually think that we are going to head towards that. I also think that's not a bad thing. You end up with what exists in countries with well funded state presses:
a) An official government press, very fact oriented b) A respectable press that reflects the government (essentially our mainstream press). Pro government opinion. c) An opposition press.
That system actually works a lot better than having a wide range of (b) all doing a half assed job.
Then separate off the generation from the distribution, like the music industry or film industry or even TV industry does. Maybe that might help. X buys content packages and sells it. Y generates content and sells to Xs.
a: is the uncensored official record from the town clerk searchable and indexed well. All the official statements and speeches and everything on the record.
b: an official summary by the mayor, firechief, police chief, etc... or their appointed press people.
c: blogger / critics. The guy who lost for mayor but goes to all the town council meetings, along with good disucssion.
Now I ask you doesn't that sound a heck of a lot more informative than the podunk local newspaper.
Similarly for the other examples. Yes the NYTimes is good but the problem is in an internet based market they aren't anywhere near the top nor do they have anything truly specific to offer.
I don't agree with you. Take a look at MSNBC for example. I'd say right now you have the most educated, most informative television news system we've ever had. Things actual got quite a bit better.
I was talking about the issue of toy. And this wasn't a confusion I was pointing out when desktops are useful, when laptops are useful and when tablets are useful. The analogy: desktop::laptop as laptop::tablet is fairly useful as most of the criticisms of tablets vs. laptops apply equally (especially around 10-15 years ago) to laptops vs. desktops.
Get the iOS SDK and you can put whatever you want on it. Including most of Debian. So if you consider Debian "enough apps" then for an end user that could handle debian, they can most all be installed on the iPad.
Seriously you don't know what you are talking about.
The reason I put you to foe was your initial comments were rude. Comments like "fool", "you shouldn't even show up" and even "fanboyism". The appropriate response would have been, "I'm sorry about my improper tone on the earlier posts".
As for application poor, as I've mentioned there have been 12b applications sold through the apple store and there and there are about a 500,000 applications listed in the apple store. By contrast all of debian is about 18,000 packages.
As I told you in the first post, you need to calm down and rationally evaluate the actual platform and start responding with things that aren't easily refuted.
you mean the simple apps which are needed for performing tasks are done everyday on a pc ?
Well yes. And at the same time no. There applications that act in 3 dimensions using the interface or use touch interfaces. Those are possible on a PC but require specialized hardware. Kindle which allows for mobile reading will do better than on a PC since the PC isn't mobile. The iWork suite which gives good layout to word processing / spreadsheets / presentations. I've used Pages and Keynotes has some neat effects that Powerpoint doesn't have with a touch interface, which makes it easier to design slides. Obviously at around 12b downloads people do like the iOS applications.
its not because pcs cant run ios apps, its because the o/s is different.
Well yes, that's usually the reason one system can't run another's applications.
Does anyone else think it funny/interesting/sad that Deutsche Telekom bought Tmobile USA for $50.7B in 2001, plus another for $2.4B in 2007 and is only getting $39B?
That ain't a bad return for buying a technology company that didn't come in first in the competition. Its not uncommon to lose 98,99% when that happens.
Calm down a little. And the article is about hardware not applications. Applications cuts both ways the laptop (he's talking a PC) can't run iOS applications either.
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If this goes that far the underlying OS will be a browser. Of course that browser will have to handle all sorts of other OS functionality but the difference between the browser and the OS will start to disappear. You know like active desktop from I.E. 4.
http://www.jcraft.com/wiredx/
Offtopic but damn that was a cool demo. Thanks for sharing.
Wow I'm amazed that the NYTimes is in the range of $20b. By way of example the operating budget for the government of New York state is 18.5b. Where are you getting those figures?
This is /. not oxfam. What aspect of it do you think we are going to talk about?
No there was a big fire in the only factory that made the right glue for computer memory in 1993. Prices skyrocketed for the glue but the market was soon glutted. Not enough time.
I actually think that we are going to head towards that. I also think that's not a bad thing. You end up with what exists in countries with well funded state presses:
a) An official government press, very fact oriented
b) A respectable press that reflects the government (essentially our mainstream press). Pro government opinion.
c) An opposition press.
That system actually works a lot better than having a wide range of (b) all doing a half assed job.
Then separate off the generation from the distribution, like the music industry or film industry or even TV industry does. Maybe that might help. X buys content packages and sells it. Y generates content and sells to Xs.
Most likely what podunk news will become is this:
a: is the uncensored official record from the town clerk searchable and indexed well. All the official statements and speeches and everything on the record.
b: an official summary by the mayor, firechief, police chief, etc... or their appointed press people.
c: blogger / critics. The guy who lost for mayor but goes to all the town council meetings, along with good disucssion.
Now I ask you doesn't that sound a heck of a lot more informative than the podunk local newspaper.
Well actually I'd hedge that by saying the mainstream media didn't highlight those positions. If you go back they did report on them.
We have excellent congressional newspapers:
http://thehill.com/
http://www.politico.com/
Washington Post.
I agree the competition is important but it doesn't do anybody any good to have competition with one reporter that doesn't have time to follow up.
I think the NYTimes has some good book reviews but:
http://www.lrb.co.uk/
http://www.nybooks.com/
The NYTimes is on par with Chicago, LA, SF Chron, the Telegraph which is good for a paper.
In terms of quantity and timeliness: http://www.kirkusreviews.com/
Similarly for the other examples. Yes the NYTimes is good but the problem is in an internet based market they aren't anywhere near the top nor do they have anything truly specific to offer.
I don't agree with you. Take a look at MSNBC for example. I'd say right now you have the most educated, most informative television news system we've ever had. Things actual got quite a bit better.
About 6 weeks ago the Huffington Post got sold to AOL for $315m. Seems some can make real money off content given away for free.
I was talking about the issue of toy. And this wasn't a confusion I was pointing out when desktops are useful, when laptops are useful and when tablets are useful. The analogy: desktop::laptop as laptop::tablet is fairly useful as most of the criticisms of tablets vs. laptops apply equally (especially around 10-15 years ago) to laptops vs. desktops.
Get the iOS SDK and you can put whatever you want on it. Including most of Debian. So if you consider Debian "enough apps" then for an end user that could handle debian, they can most all be installed on the iPad.
Seriously you don't know what you are talking about.
The reason I put you to foe was your initial comments were rude. Comments like "fool", "you shouldn't even show up" and even "fanboyism". The appropriate response would have been, "I'm sorry about my improper tone on the earlier posts".
As for application poor, as I've mentioned there have been 12b applications sold through the apple store and there and there are about a 500,000 applications listed in the apple store. By contrast all of debian is about 18,000 packages.
As I told you in the first post, you need to calm down and rationally evaluate the actual platform and start responding with things that aren't easily refuted.
Don't forget the gyroscope. And where do you get those standard everyday applications that respond to 3 dimensional input?
Well yes. And at the same time no. There applications that act in 3 dimensions using the interface or use touch interfaces. Those are possible on a PC but require specialized hardware. Kindle which allows for mobile reading will do better than on a PC since the PC isn't mobile. The iWork suite which gives good layout to word processing / spreadsheets / presentations. I've used Pages and Keynotes has some neat effects that Powerpoint doesn't have with a touch interface, which makes it easier to design slides. Obviously at around 12b downloads people do like the iOS applications.
Well yes, that's usually the reason one system can't run another's applications.
tmobile and sprint's networks aren't compatible. They can't merge. Sprint could merge with Verizon.
DT lost money on tmobile.
That ain't a bad return for buying a technology company that didn't come in first in the competition. Its not uncommon to lose 98,99% when that happens.
Calm down a little. And the article is about hardware not applications. Applications cuts both ways the laptop (he's talking a PC) can't run iOS applications either.
So buy a 3rd party phone or an ipod.
Cool, a guy who was there. Then a few graphs:
http://www.labnol.org/wp/images/2008/02/total-number-websites.gif
Annual growth in # of sites:
1996 : 0.6%
1997 : 1.2%
1998 : 2.2%
1999 : 5.9%
2000 : 17.6%
2001 : 9.1%
2002 : -1.3
2003 : 10.6%
2004 : 12.1%
2005 : 17.1%
2006 : 31.6%
2007 : 48.7%
2008 : 29.9%
And yes that does represent more usage:
http://www.packet.cc/images/Internet%20Traffic.gif