Because the government is mandating it. The system of public utilities presupposes the government take the lead in large scale national projects and we just don't have a government will or able to do that sort of thing like we used to. We've made huge budget cuts over the last generation to the bureaucracy we used to have at a government level that handled infrastructure. Nowadays that sort of thing would be consider "pork", "earmarks", "nanny state". All the money needs to go to massive increases in healthcare costs and expensive foreign wars.
I think this comes down to asking what the goal of OLPC is.
1) To build cheap hardware usable in 3rd world 2) To build cheap hardware usable in the 4th world (i.e. not electricity). 3) To figure out a way to do logistics for semi valuable property in the worst of the 4th world 4) To create an optimal interface for children in 3rd world countries where a computer infrastructure doesn't already exist.
This isn't a controversial case nor one that is difficult. There are a zillion witnesses. The suspect in this case is going to be doing life. What purpose would be served by beating him up?
Reporters have traditionally encouraged sources to give them confidential information. Journalists, intelligence, ambassador staff all do similar sorts of work.
Well obviously basing that on what information is in the public domain regarding his activities. But no one seems to be debating the facts too much. Its mainly the application of the law.
GP was arguing there was no crime. You are arguing there may be a crime but it is not a death penalty offense. People have been executed for espionage. I would vote to acquit on a jury for Assange but I don't think the fear is unfounded.
Can you prove active solicitation? The whole reason for the SHIELD Act is to be able to go after the Assange's of the world, which means what he did was likely legal.
-- Harm has been directly caused to diplomatic relations with superpower. How can harming the diplomatic relations of a fair share of this nations countries possibly be considered no harm?
Harm = diminished trust Help = better accountability
Many governments were lying to their people and that was exposed. That's why I'm saying net, net this was good.
1) I don't think he engaged in spying he wasn't on US soil. 2) He was a civilian. Execution of freelancers is not a tradition. 3) I'm not sure that net net he caused harm. A lot of good came from it to. 4) I do support the US state department, This was something I support.
I think for Microsoft, if they have a problem it will be the squeeze. Above from Apple and below from Linux. But they've done a pretty job for the last 15 years. They have to do a major screw up, a few Vistas in a row.
No they aren't. They just follow policy without being concerned about effects or legality. Assassins by the nature of their work get to know the people and cultures we are attacking. They make moral judgements.
Apocalypse Now is about the moral struggles of an assassin.
How many people had I already killed? There were those six that I knew about for sure. Close enough to blow their last breath in my face. But this time, it was an American and an officer. That wasn't supposed to make any difference to me, but it did. Shit... charging a man with murder in this place was like handing out speeding tickets in the Indy 500. I took the mission. What the hell else was I gonna do?
-- The free trad laws increased the corporations' freedom, at the expense of MY freedom
How? Lets take an area that is still restricted tobacco. How are you more free under current tobacco laws than if tobacco could be imported like a shirt?
OK I want to bring a ship full of containers into a US port and offload them.
1) What do I need to know about them? 2) How do I verify that the people who pick them up are the rightful owners 3) What kinds of insurance do I need if something goes wrong? 4) Are there weight maximums to avoid damaging US equipment 5) Do the contains need to meet environmental standards
They didn't give it a pass, they created a major scandal for 2 weeks and there were hearings. However 80% of the public agreed with the TSA so it didn't get very far. But that is a perfect counter example of the Republicans pushing for looser security regulations due to what they perceived as a civil rights violation.
Free trade requires only one sentence: "We will not use import tariffs or subsidies," and that's it.
No it doesn't. There are hundreds of mechanisms having to deal with bills of lading, inspection, taxation. Who is going to contacting whom. How duties will be collected.
And I wasn't asked for a complete list. I could throw in airline deregulation. Especially prior to 2001 airlines had become much freer over the previous 25 years.
In 1918 we had a flu go through the world. About a 1/5th of the world's population caught it and 50 million people died in a matter of months. In the USA it cut 12 years off the life expectancy that year, and 1/4 of the population got it.
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Because the government is mandating it. The system of public utilities presupposes the government take the lead in large scale national projects and we just don't have a government will or able to do that sort of thing like we used to. We've made huge budget cuts over the last generation to the bureaucracy we used to have at a government level that handled infrastructure. Nowadays that sort of thing would be consider "pork", "earmarks", "nanny state". All the money needs to go to massive increases in healthcare costs and expensive foreign wars.
I think this comes down to asking what the goal of OLPC is.
1) To build cheap hardware usable in 3rd world
2) To build cheap hardware usable in the 4th world (i.e. not electricity).
3) To figure out a way to do logistics for semi valuable property in the worst of the 4th world
4) To create an optimal interface for children in 3rd world countries where a computer infrastructure doesn't already exist.
These goals unfortunately conflict.
This isn't a controversial case nor one that is difficult. There are a zillion witnesses. The suspect in this case is going to be doing life. What purpose would be served by beating him up?
Reporters have traditionally encouraged sources to give them confidential information. Journalists, intelligence, ambassador staff all do similar sorts of work.
Well obviously basing that on what information is in the public domain regarding his activities. But no one seems to be debating the facts too much. Its mainly the application of the law.
GP was arguing there was no crime. You are arguing there may be a crime but it is not a death penalty offense. People have been executed for espionage. I would vote to acquit on a jury for Assange but I don't think the fear is unfounded.
Can you prove active solicitation? The whole reason for the SHIELD Act is to be able to go after the Assange's of the world, which means what he did was likely legal.
-- Harm has been directly caused to diplomatic relations with superpower. How can harming the diplomatic relations of a fair share of this nations countries possibly be considered no harm?
Harm = diminished trust
Help = better accountability
Many governments were lying to their people and that was exposed. That's why I'm saying net, net this was good.
If you break your contract you just pay a penalty I think its like $150. So what's the difference?
Why would this be a problem
1) We think Droids are better than iPhones
2) We sell iPhones and Droids
Where is the contradiction?
The US Attorney General has said he's looking into him.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/16/world/16wiki.html
This is not FUD
1) I don't think he engaged in spying he wasn't on US soil.
2) He was a civilian. Execution of freelancers is not a tradition.
3) I'm not sure that net net he caused harm. A lot of good came from it to.
4) I do support the US state department, This was something I support.
Yep. I'm hope people in the US get the message that the rest of the world no longer thinks of us a country of laws.
I think for Microsoft, if they have a problem it will be the squeeze. Above from Apple and below from Linux. But they've done a pretty job for the last 15 years. They have to do a major screw up, a few Vistas in a row.
No way do I want that system. What's to stop someone from being in all sorts of illegal merchandise, Counterfeit products, drugs, illegal pesticides.
I don't know if you are reading so can you provide examples, evidence, links...?
No they aren't. They just follow policy without being concerned about effects or legality. Assassins by the nature of their work get to know the people and cultures we are attacking. They make moral judgements.
Apocalypse Now is about the moral struggles of an assassin.
-- The free trad laws increased the corporations' freedom, at the expense of MY freedom
How? Lets take an area that is still restricted tobacco. How are you more free under current tobacco laws than if tobacco could be imported like a shirt?
OK I want to bring a ship full of containers into a US port and offload them.
1) What do I need to know about them?
2) How do I verify that the people who pick them up are the rightful owners
3) What kinds of insurance do I need if something goes wrong?
4) Are there weight maximums to avoid damaging US equipment
5) Do the contains need to meet environmental standards
Things you don't think about often seem simple.
They didn't give it a pass, they created a major scandal for 2 weeks and there were hearings. However 80% of the public agreed with the TSA so it didn't get very far. But that is a perfect counter example of the Republicans pushing for looser security regulations due to what they perceived as a civil rights violation.
Free trade requires only one sentence: "We will not use import tariffs or subsidies," and that's it.
No it doesn't. There are hundreds of mechanisms having to deal with bills of lading, inspection, taxation. Who is going to contacting whom. How duties will be collected.
And I wasn't asked for a complete list. I could throw in airline deregulation. Especially prior to 2001 airlines had become much freer over the previous 25 years.
Of course they know how! For a while they were experimenting with serious measures, you remember trusted computing / paladium?
Did you notice that whole TSA thing a little while back?
Not with this president, they really hate him.
In 1918 we had a flu go through the world. About a 1/5th of the world's population caught it and 50 million people died in a matter of months. In the USA it cut 12 years off the life expectancy that year, and 1/4 of the population got it.
That's what a flu can do that gets out of hand.
-- When was the last time you saw a law passed that increased your freedom.
Most of the free trade regulation increased my freedom. The banking deregulation increased my freedom. The common carrier laws increase my freedom.
Sure. Republicans frequently make civil rights issues when Dem presidents screw up.