I really don't understand what everyone has against Mozilla. Its quite obvious that no one has bothered to try any of the nightlies since M12.
For Christ's sake, man, get a life! Do you think I have nothing else to do than download Mozzilla files? I, like a huge number of REAL people, have a 56K modem here.
Hello, hello? Reality calling. Is there anyone in?
I can't comment on the stability of netscape on other OS's. Maybe it really sucks on Linux.
Yep, it does. I never have a day without NS crashing and the underlying OS (RH Linux) only gets rebooted when new hardware is added, so it ain't the problem.
On windows the only problem we have in work with NS is that it does not display HTML4 very well and its Javascript parser throws errors up on some machines and not others. Oh, and no version understands style-sheets beyond the very basic options.
This may be the last time I every post or come to this site.
Oh no! What a sad loss for us all. Truely, this is the wake-up call we all need. Feral Wylde I is turning his/her/its back on the shambles/. has become. Now, surely, everyone will see the light and beg him/her/it to return to us, forgive us, and share more of his vague, badly-spelt, I'm-so-wise-I-seem-dumb pearls of wisdom. For he/she/it is The Only One With A Clue. He/she/it is never trivial nor ignorant and will not tell us wtf he/she/it is talking about only because our poor brains would not cope. That's the kind of guy/girl/artificial life form he/she/it is.
If you think about what you're saying, you are actually suggesting (from an implimentation point of view) that there be 26 TLDs (a-z) and that the databases for those domains would be huge. This is a step back to the problem that DNS was set up to solve.
The addendum about animals etc. is pure relativisim: other things are real bad so the just plain bad stuff is okay. If your point is that you don't think video games can ever be realistic enough to influence a child's value system then you've got yourself an argument, but at least try to stick to the issue raised by the item.
Just imagine what the Nazis would have been able to do with this! Bloody hell.
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That's all fine and good, and I'll join tonight, but the basic question people are asking is "who died and made ICANN god?". As far as I can (no pun intended) see the historical problem with DNS and the current problem with ICANN is the US-centric nature of the system.
I would propose closing down.com for further registrations as it is now beyond repair (every company in every country fighting for a name in one namespace was never a good idea even when America was the only county you expected to matter to the 'net). All companies would have to register in the.com/.co/whatever sub-domain of individual countries and could only do so if they held a registered trademark in that country.
.net and.org should stay open but vetting should return, perhaps by ICANN or a UN body.
.gov should be closed down and phased out. At the very least any further registrations should be requied to add at least one country-code subdomain (e.g.,.uk.gov.us.gov.cx.gov) to recognise the international reality of the modern Internet. The same goes for.mil (oh, that'll happen!).
Add a.xxx TLD to shut up all those twats that want to censor the web. It's pretty obvious that the sites themselves want this TLD and it would act as a one-point-of-control for parental filtering which actually makes sense.
Add.home for individuals and non-registered companies (in the UK this means non-limited companies) but require at least two levels of sub-domain (e.g. www.tww.farnham.surrey.uk). Registered companies may not apply so no confusion can ever occur or be claimed about trademarks etc. Non-registered companies (high street shops etc) would have a two year change-over period if they did register where they would have both a.co.fr domain and their old.honfleur.normandy.home after which they could only retain the.co.fr one.
Setting up a new system seems like a good idea but the best we can expect, given the size of the net now, is to improve what we have.
.int can be closed down (for further registrations) and I doubt that anyone will miss it.
Don't reject every solution because it's not perfect as there is not going to be a perfect solution. We do need, however, a good solution. Soon.
Newsnet has not inspired me to think that the "anarchy" approach would work. As an anarchist I feel that anarchy really only works with groups of under 200 adults.
You thought they were extinct. You thought 300million years was enough for one group of animals. You thought "I can't pronounce Trinucleus fimbriatus".
Christianity isn't the only, and not nearly the first, religon/myth to use a virgin birth
Actually, Christianity doesn't have a virgin birth. The word used signifies that Mary was a young woman, not a virgin. The mistranslation means that no one who knew Jesus, or the next few generations of early Christians would have had any idea what the "Virgin Birth" was.
As usual, the church of St Paul pushed it's made-up drivel in favor of the too-dull true story of a visionary man who's signal is almost lost in the noise. We don't even know what Jesus's real name was (just as most people don't know Mahatma Ghandi's real name).
... I got spammed by afternic today. I'd never heard of them before and they emailed my work account with some drivel I had no interest in (they were auctioning off a domain name vaugly related to our business). So I'd say they've shown why they aren't deserving of tld registration rights. Sod 'em. And Gomorrah, for that matter.
is now the domain of the corporations that have turned the web from a text-based, dull place into the multimedia experiance that people want to see today.
In other words it's turning into a pile of useless, moronic shit just like the crap the said corporations churn out in their TV and print media. Oh, hooray, that is an improvement.
The irony is, of course, that today's "multimedia experience" is as dull as ditch-water and twice as predictable.
"Common Language Runtime", "Universal engine", "Operating system independance (which Java offers)"
The signs are all there. Particularly OS independance. Unless they mean they're going to write a compiler for every OS (Ho, ho!) they mean a virtual machine (which Java offers).
Of course, they'll start offering C-hashed compilers after a while like they did with VB, but they'll only run on Windows so if you want performance guess who's OS you'll need.
To be a bit more serious: C-hashed is going to be a byte-coded language with a virtual machine. As a Forth programmer I know two (and only two) things:
A byte-coded language can be used for system programming, and
No one will use a byte coded langauge for systems programming in this day and age.
The noises M$ are making about pushing all languages on Windows to virtual machines (putting them on an equal footing) just won't wash with developers, even on GHz machines the performance hit is too great and, the real problem, it just aint cool. So M$ was telling the truth about their new product not being Cool.
There have been lots of languages which have the characteristics you want but they died because of the performance hit.
I would LOVE to have a C-like language that didn't have the limitations of Java.
You'd want C then, wouldn't you?
Java is not an appropriate replacement for C for system programming.
Try "C" for that, it's quite good.
For example (my biggest peeve), Java lacks an unsigned data type.
I think C has that.
I think it would be great to have a language for system programming that was cleaner that C++ and without the limits of Java.
Well, you could use C++ and not use the unclean bits.
People talk about native compiled Java, but let's face it, the language is very tied to the JVM. It is not designed to be a system programming language like C, with it's non-specified sized data types, non-defined byte order, etc that you need for maximum efficiency.
No, you're right; best stick to C, then.
Only people who don't understand the differences between Java and C++ could possibly see this as a competitor to Java.
Only people who can't understand the similarities between C and C++ could see this as a competitor to a dead cat.
I would ask people to not condemn it just because it's from Microsoft.
Can we condem it for being pointless?
Let's wait to see what pops out.
That's the sort of reasoning that got John Hurt killed in Alien.
there are few companies with as much experience with OOP than Microsoft.
There are few companies with as much experience in screwing their customers, but I don't think that's a reason to wait to see how they're going to do it next.
Yes, but I don't think they've been defined in the films. Perhaps it is a referance to wars fought with cloned troops, or a cold-war type of war where top diplomats etc. are replaced by clones working for the other side or something like that. AFAIK it's still up to Lucas to tell us what happened; unless I missed something.
a time when the Mars program is coming under attack from all sides for ineptitude and wasting taxpayers' dollars
That would be any time from 1970 onwards, wouldn't it?
Is it really accurate to say that they can detect tiny amounts of seepage?
At the resolution of the global surveyor, combined with how easy water is to detect, not really.
the fact that the atmosphere is not that much thicker in the canyons
The extra thickness of the atmosphere is only part of it, the bottom of the canyons also never (or hardly ever) get direct sunlight so there the temperature is lower, helping to compensate for the reduced boling point caused by the thin "air". Also, if the water is seeping out in the form of a spring, the conditions on the surface are more or less irrelevent to whether the water can exist or not. There may be a substantial water table feeding the spings.
I don't remember any genetically engineered Star Wars characters.
I think he meant Star Trek, which did have a background war between the Humans and Neo-Humans (Wrath of Khan, and an episode of the original series also with Khan but I can't remember the title).
I trust biologists to do the right things, ethically and scientifically -- I doubt many of them are eager to start tinkering with humans just to see what happens.
This was a joke, right? This is the same group of scientists who have happily experimented on humans ("inferior" humans, of course) throughtout the modern period (Nazis is the obvious example but all countries have done it. In the States and the UK a lot of medical research has been carried out on handicaped people right up to the 70's and 80's that would turn your stomach, not to mention the various activities of the armed forces on their own trooops). Biologists are the single biggest group that treats all life as a machine to be taken apart to see where the grant money (er... benefits for all mankind) is.
Everybody who's actually tried Quake on linux knows that Windows outperforms it. And now BeOS outperforms Windows.
I don't think the real issure for Linux users is the fact of Windows/BeOS being faster but the amount faster. As the poster implied, quantum leaps need more evidence than gradual steps.
Frankly, anyone that plays games under any of these systems is a mug, consoles are far better value for money while PC-based games just suck the user into a hardware arms race against themselves.
I'm just going to point you at the paragraphs of the findings of fact, I haven't time to go into this in deep detail (I'm working today).
1.Who did Microsoft bribe? I thought that was the reason they are getting screwed by the government, because they didn't bribe people like various Valley firms.
Paras 66, 105.
2. A threat to remove (not reduce) market share is a threat which is as real to the target as a threat to life and limb. paras 106-110, 115-132, 144-174.
3. This is the easy one - Double Space. There are others but that one is the one we all remember.
4. They lied to the judge (Jackson) when they said that they would abide by his previous rulings. From the memorandum and order of the DOJ case:
"Third, Microsoft has proved untrustworthy in the past. In earlier proceedings in which a preliminary injunction was entered, Microsoft's purported compliance with that injunction while it was on appeal was illusory and its explanation disingenuous. If it responds in similar fashion to an injunctive remedy in this case, the earlier the need for enforcement measures becomes apparent the more effective they are likely to be."
It is part of the design of HTML that it does not require user agents to display HTML in the same way as each other. CSS is more for that, but even then there is supposed to be some flexibility.
But these same people WOULD be interested in running Linux?
They can and do. What really stops them is not desktops or window managers or all that cack, but the inability to do their work. Which is where the filters and Word come in.
Most Windows users never use Windows itself, they just use the apps and go home. Many, many Windows users don't know how to find a file on their drives without using the Find File app. To these people Linux and Windows as tools in themselves are equally opaque. But under Linux they aren't constantly told "don't touch" and they slowly grow into REAL users.
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For Christ's sake, man, get a life! Do you think I have nothing else to do than download Mozzilla files? I, like a huge number of REAL people, have a 56K modem here.
Hello, hello? Reality calling. Is there anyone in?
TWW
Yep, it does. I never have a day without NS crashing and the underlying OS (RH Linux) only gets rebooted when new hardware is added, so it ain't the problem.
On windows the only problem we have in work with NS is that it does not display HTML4 very well and its Javascript parser throws errors up on some machines and not others. Oh, and no version understands style-sheets beyond the very basic options.
Other than that...it still sucks.
My personal advice is to use Opera.
TWW
Oh no! What a sad loss for us all. Truely, this is the wake-up call we all need. Feral Wylde I is turning his/her/its back on the shambles /. has become. Now, surely, everyone will see the light and beg him/her/it to return to us, forgive us, and share more of his vague, badly-spelt, I'm-so-wise-I-seem-dumb pearls of wisdom. For he/she/it is The Only One With A Clue. He/she/it is never trivial nor ignorant and will not tell us wtf he/she/it is talking about only because our poor brains would not cope. That's the kind of guy/girl/artificial life form he/she/it is.
TWW
The addendum about animals etc. is pure relativisim: other things are real bad so the just plain bad stuff is okay. If your point is that you don't think video games can ever be realistic enough to influence a child's value system then you've got yourself an argument, but at least try to stick to the issue raised by the item.
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I would propose closing down .com for further registrations as it is now beyond repair (every company in every country fighting for a name in one namespace was never a good idea even when America was the only county you expected to matter to the 'net). All companies would have to register in the .com/.co/whatever sub-domain of individual countries and could only do so if they held a registered trademark in that country.
.net and .org should stay open but vetting should return, perhaps by ICANN or a UN body.
.gov should be closed down and phased out. At the very least any further registrations should be requied to add at least one country-code subdomain (e.g., .uk.gov .us.gov .cx.gov) to recognise the international reality of the modern Internet. The same goes for .mil (oh, that'll happen!).
Add a .xxx TLD to shut up all those twats that want to censor the web. It's pretty obvious that the sites themselves want this TLD and it would act as a one-point-of-control for parental filtering which actually makes sense.
Add .home for individuals and non-registered companies (in the UK this means non-limited companies) but require at least two levels of sub-domain (e.g. www.tww.farnham.surrey.uk). Registered companies may not apply so no confusion can ever occur or be claimed about trademarks etc. Non-registered companies (high street shops etc) would have a two year change-over period if they did register where they would have both a .co.fr domain and their old .honfleur.normandy.home after which they could only retain the .co.fr one.
Setting up a new system seems like a good idea but the best we can expect, given the size of the net now, is to improve what we have.
.int can be closed down (for further registrations) and I doubt that anyone will miss it.
Don't reject every solution because it's not perfect as there is not going to be a perfect solution. We do need, however, a good solution. Soon.
Newsnet has not inspired me to think that the "anarchy" approach would work. As an anarchist I feel that anarchy really only works with groups of under 200 adults.
I think that's all I have to say about that.
TWW
You were wrong.
Apart from that last bit, of course.
TWW
Actually, Christianity doesn't have a virgin birth. The word used signifies that Mary was a young woman, not a virgin. The mistranslation means that no one who knew Jesus, or the next few generations of early Christians would have had any idea what the "Virgin Birth" was.
As usual, the church of St Paul pushed it's made-up drivel in favor of the too-dull true story of a visionary man who's signal is almost lost in the noise. We don't even know what Jesus's real name was (just as most people don't know Mahatma Ghandi's real name).
TWW
Well, he still had it when Vader killed him in EpIV, and when he appeared as a ghost in the later ones, so I guess the answer is "never".
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"C hashed" would be appropriate.
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In other words it's turning into a pile of useless, moronic shit just like the crap the said corporations churn out in their TV and print media. Oh, hooray, that is an improvement.
The irony is, of course, that today's "multimedia experience" is as dull as ditch-water and twice as predictable.
TWW
The signs are all there. Particularly OS independance. Unless they mean they're going to write a compiler for every OS (Ho, ho!) they mean a virtual machine (which Java offers).
Of course, they'll start offering C-hashed compilers after a while like they did with VB, but they'll only run on Windows so if you want performance guess who's OS you'll need.
TWW
The noises M$ are making about pushing all languages on Windows to virtual machines (putting them on an equal footing) just won't wash with developers, even on GHz machines the performance hit is too great and, the real problem, it just aint cool. So M$ was telling the truth about their new product not being Cool.
There have been lots of languages which have the characteristics you want but they died because of the performance hit.
TWW
You'd want C then, wouldn't you?
Java is not an appropriate replacement for C for system programming.
Try "C" for that, it's quite good.
For example (my biggest peeve), Java lacks an unsigned data type.
I think C has that.
I think it would be great to have a language for system programming that was cleaner that C++ and without the limits of Java.
Well, you could use C++ and not use the unclean bits.
People talk about native compiled Java, but let's face it, the language is very tied to the JVM. It is not designed to be a system programming language like C, with it's non-specified sized data types, non-defined byte order, etc that you need for maximum efficiency.
No, you're right; best stick to C, then.
Only people who don't understand the differences between Java and C++ could possibly see this as a competitor to Java.
Only people who can't understand the similarities between C and C++ could see this as a competitor to a dead cat.
I would ask people to not condemn it just because it's from Microsoft.
Can we condem it for being pointless?
Let's wait to see what pops out.
That's the sort of reasoning that got John Hurt killed in Alien.
there are few companies with as much experience with OOP than Microsoft.
There are few companies with as much experience in screwing their customers, but I don't think that's a reason to wait to see how they're going to do it next.
TWW
Yes, but I don't think they've been defined in the films. Perhaps it is a referance to wars fought with cloned troops, or a cold-war type of war where top diplomats etc. are replaced by clones working for the other side or something like that. AFAIK it's still up to Lucas to tell us what happened; unless I missed something.
TWW
That would be any time from 1970 onwards, wouldn't it?
Is it really accurate to say that they can detect tiny amounts of seepage?
At the resolution of the global surveyor, combined with how easy water is to detect, not really.
the fact that the atmosphere is not that much thicker in the canyons
The extra thickness of the atmosphere is only part of it, the bottom of the canyons also never (or hardly ever) get direct sunlight so there the temperature is lower, helping to compensate for the reduced boling point caused by the thin "air". Also, if the water is seeping out in the form of a spring, the conditions on the surface are more or less irrelevent to whether the water can exist or not. There may be a substantial water table feeding the spings.
But it is early days.
TWW
I think he meant Star Trek, which did have a background war between the Humans and Neo-Humans (Wrath of Khan, and an episode of the original series also with Khan but I can't remember the title).
I trust biologists to do the right things, ethically and scientifically -- I doubt many of them are eager to start tinkering with humans just to see what happens.
This was a joke, right? This is the same group of scientists who have happily experimented on humans ("inferior" humans, of course) throughtout the modern period (Nazis is the obvious example but all countries have done it. In the States and the UK a lot of medical research has been carried out on handicaped people right up to the 70's and 80's that would turn your stomach, not to mention the various activities of the armed forces on their own trooops). Biologists are the single biggest group that treats all life as a machine to be taken apart to see where the grant money (er... benefits for all mankind) is.
TWW
What a load.
TWW
I don't think the real issure for Linux users is the fact of Windows/BeOS being faster but the amount faster. As the poster implied, quantum leaps need more evidence than gradual steps.
Frankly, anyone that plays games under any of these systems is a mug, consoles are far better value for money while PC-based games just suck the user into a hardware arms race against themselves.
TWW
Where's the karma coming from, that's what I'd like to know.
TWW
1.Who did Microsoft bribe? I thought that was the reason they are getting screwed by the government, because they didn't bribe people like various Valley firms.
Paras 66, 105.
2. A threat to remove (not reduce) market share is a threat which is as real to the target as a threat to life and limb. paras 106-110, 115-132, 144-174.
3. This is the easy one - Double Space. There are others but that one is the one we all remember.
4. They lied to the judge (Jackson) when they said that they would abide by his previous rulings. From the memorandum and order of the DOJ case:
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They can and do. What really stops them is not desktops or window managers or all that cack, but the inability to do their work. Which is where the filters and Word come in.
Most Windows users never use Windows itself, they just use the apps and go home. Many, many Windows users don't know how to find a file on their drives without using the Find File app. To these people Linux and Windows as tools in themselves are equally opaque. But under Linux they aren't constantly told "don't touch" and they slowly grow into REAL users.
If I was being cruel, I'd say they had no choice.
TWW