Isn't that the whole purpose of having separate unstable and stable lines?
Yes, it would be if that was how it was done. The stable/unstable branching hasn't been used since 2.6 came in quite some time ago.
I think the reasoning was that the vast majority of users are using kernels supplied by their distro and those aren't bumped up until the distro maintainers are happy that they are stable anyway, so why bother with two branches, especially since many innovations end up having to be backported to the stable branch because of user demand?
"Navigating" a PDF is about as easy navigating a scanned bitmap of a printed document.
Bollocks.
There's no clue as to whats a link, and whats not.
Okay, that's true, although a consistant use of links can make it easier on the user.
It's simply not a useable way to view information.
As I said before: utter shite. Maybe you just aren't very good at using them, although how anyone could find it difficult is beyond me; PDF is trivial to use and print and not very hard to produce either.
So, finally Microsoft have admitted defeat in the Word Vs PDF battle. After years of simply refusing to support PDF in their products they have decided that the world simply doesn't care what they think - PDF is the document interchange format, at least for finished documents.
MS never supported PDF because they wanted to lock everyone into using Word and its format(s) as the way to pass documents around. Never mind that it was a load of crap for such purposes, quality has never figured in MS's designs and probably never will.
So, now that MS has admitted that the world not only wants, but is using someone else's format (a nice, open format) are they going to get with the mainstream and give their customers what they clearly want? Fuck no. Microsoft didn't get where it is today by listening to customers: customers are there to milk via lock-in. Does the farmer ask the cows when they'd like slaughtered?
Instead they've decided, as usual, to tell the customers what they want: a new, propriety document format to solve all the problems they're currently solving with PDF.
In other words, just like Sparkle, Microsoft's response to the market is to pick another battle it can't win. To win, it would have to be addressing some lack in the current offering that has the potential to create a new market they can exploit, but the only lack is one MS sees: revenue from making portable documents. The rest of the world is already making them and has little interest in the "problem". So, basically, the market for Microsoft's new format is...Microsoft itself. So, who cares?
Your post appears to be utter shite from start to end. What is wrong with PDF? What in the whole history of computing has ever suggested that Microsoft can design anything well (alright, apart from that mouse)?
PDF is easy to generate, compact (I can't remember the last time I saw an MS program produce a document 32K long for 4 pages of high quality output), and portable to just about every computer in the world now. Acrobat Reader 7 is pretty good but huge while the various third-pary readers are generally smaller and faster but with less features. Last, but not least, the fonts are handled by the document instead of relying on the reader having the same ones installed as you do. Navigation can be embedded as links both within and to outside of the document.
Oops! Someone hasn't noticed the number of trains and ships running Windows. No danger of a virus killing anyone there, then.
I don't experience any significant negative effects from zombie machines, so I am not willing to pay for such a system.
Someone also hasn't noticed the amount of effort that goes into protecting his system from zombie machine. Perhaps he thinks firewalls were a gift from unknown stellar travellers and spam filters require no effort to create and update.
he raises the question on whether corporations should get involved in social issues.
Since it seems that American society exists only to serve the purposes of corporations then obviously they are more than involved already. Without corportations civilisation might be in danger of running rampant in the streets of the US of A!
John O'Neil specifically told Bush that Bin Laden was going to attack the Twin Towers and he was told not to follow up on his information. He quit his job at the FBI - where he had been tracking OBL for years since the Kenya bomb and was know to be THE expert on OBL's activities - and became the head of security at the WTC. He took the job because he was 100% sure an attack was coming and three days into the job, that's where he died a fucking hero actually trying to make the world a better place for his fellow man while Bush sat paralysed in front of a bunch of school children and near pissed himself wondering if his keeness to protect his Saudi friends and their business interests was going to lead to his impeachment and maybe even, given the seriousness of effects of his corruption, execution for what at that point was thought to be 50000 cases of negligent manslaughter.
Document design? DOCUMENT DESIGN! Catch goddamn trip on the clue train here, you people. Clinton told the secret services to go gently on Saudi Arabia, but Bush specifically told them to DROP all investigations that looked like they were going to finger anyone important. Like, for example, any members of that nice Bin Laden family that the Bushes have always got on so well with that they were allowed to leave the country while all other flights were grounded.
Document design! Christ, talk about wanting to believe the lies.
Steak and Blowjob day, on the other hand, got saved, while Kerry still lost Ohio. Something to be said for picking battles where you make a difference.
Keeping Steak and Blowjob Day in Wikipedia is "making a difference"?! Man, you should add an entry for "Pathetic" with just your photo above that statement.
Northern Ireland seems a bit blank outside of Belfast - there's no streets in Bangor, for example, despite it being a town of 60-80000 people (depending on who you believe). Mind you, Multipmap's NI maps are from 1970, so it's debatable which is worse.
I think you might find quark is part of elaborate publishing systems that don't change very often.
Oh, I know a few of them, and as I said, the users (and managers) hate Quark and the fact that they still have to use it when it's clearly five or six years behind InDesign. It is not a stable or valuable position to be hated by your users, regardless of lock-in.
I haven't seen a rebuttal that gives a good solution yet.
Err, there's nothing to rebutt. There's no difficulty inherent in running as non-root and thousands of obvious scenarios where it's a bad idea to run as root, from accidental data and program loss to virus spreading. What is the point of running as root? There's no good solution to the problems it causes.
Even in a house with a single machine, there are often multiple users who actually WANT to have their accounts separate.
Changing the date as a non-root user shouldn't require a root password
Why? What's wrong with preventing someone with a confused idea of what the date command does, or a kid playing with the clock on KDE from actually changing the system clock? What is the disadvantage of preventing someone screwing with the system?
Just because someone's rich and uses Linux doesn't mean can't be a moron too, you know.
Adobe pays a hefty premium because the owner(s) know how much easier it would be to not have any competition.
But Quark isn't competition anymore; it's a dead product. The only reason it's still in use is legacy files and training issues, but it's universally despised by its users and as far as i can see they all want to switch to InDesign. Meanwhile, Quark is obviously in need of a re-write from the ground up, by which point it would be ANOTHER couple of years behind InDesign.
Adobe would be mad if they paid more than a couple of bucks for Quark. I know I wouldn't.
I mean, that is something I've been wanting standard on Linux for a long time (I haven't used Linux in a while now so let me know if it is standard now).
It's a standard option in the mainstream kernel. I've not used it, though, since the standard owner/group/world stuff covers everything I need.
I just wanted to point out that I have been on slashdot for a while now, and I have *never* seen a thread with so many posts moderated as "troll", "flamebait" or "offtopic".
Apple is afflicted by the largest percentage of "fanboys" of any major OS, and has been for a long time. Criticism, even of the mildest sort is frowned upon, and actually saying that you prefer something else, even if acknowledging that there are some very good points in OS/X or Mac hardware, is a hanging offense.
You can look at the LoTR movies and be glad they didn't disney it by making the characters do a little dance number OR you can complain about elves at helmsdeep.
OR complain that the director appears to have no ability in his chosen profession. Regardless of adaptation V original, the first film was just plain bad film making.
As regards HHG, Marvin is worrying me. The TV Marvin wasn't what I was expecting but there was a certain irony in it. The film one just isn't funny or ironic.
Like the books and the TV series, I doubt that the film will live up to the radio series, but I suppose I'll go and see it.
Ok, see you in a week or so. That's a rather large chore.
Well, rather brilliantly, I went to bed last night without hitting RETURN so I came down this morning to find "emerge world" sitting waiting for me. It's running now in the background with a nice value of 10; it'll be ready by tomorrow.
If I was using and updating KDE, then I'd have to wait a week.
But why should you have to keep switching distros?
I've only done it once in about six years of use, from RedHat to Gentoo. People change cars all the time, it's not that the car is necessarily knackered, it may just be that there's a new model you prefer. In my case, Gentoo was easier to maintain than RedHat so I changed and at the moment I can't imagine needing to change again.
It's not the easiest thing in the world always. Especially when you're trying to do things like upgrade your gcc, libc or other primary libraries. I've learned the hard way that the best way to do that is to start from scratch which is shitty IMO.
Interestingly, I'm planning to do just that tonight. I'll set Gentoo updating when I go to bed and in the morning I may or may not remember that it happened. The previous three times I've updated gcc etc. on Gentoo I didn't have to do anything except give it permission to do it. I admit though that what you are saying is exactly why I droped RedHat after years of use; it was getting harder and harder to maintain.
An X server that didn't cost as much as Windows/OS X to get a fully supported graphics card would be nice as well.
Well, the Intel 8xx chipsets are well supported and are great for anything other than games, so all my office machines just use those, and Nvidia's drivers are unified, so as far as I know their whole range is supported under Linux as well as under Windows/OSX, although I'm not interested in high-end graphics so I'm not sure. Binary only drivers are an evil we can't avoid, but you did say you didn't want to compile anything, so at least that's one you won't have to worry about!
Linux does not 'just work' and until it does, my comments like this will be rated a troll and people will not switch.
Well, it does for me. It won't for people buying cutting edge machines for gaming, but in the last five years Ive only found one machine that I couldn't just install Linux on and then start work. And generally, I get more mileage out of old machines which do work than I would using Windows. I'm typing this on a 400Mhz machine with 200MB of RAM; it's my backup machine, since my main machine is 400 miles away, and I use it for graphic design, photo manip, web design, and as a test bed web server. Such hardware would be turned away by charity shops these days but I'm earning a living off it. What I'm not doing is 3D rendering in real-time.
But what about your random piece of hardware that 'works on windows' but has no driver or even worse, the 'experimental' driver in linux.
Well, what about it? I can't use Mac hardware either but I don't buy "random hardware", I look at the Web and find out what does work and I buy that. There's nothing anyone can do about drivers that don't work under Linux other than buy the competitor and let the market work it out. And it will work it out, just as it did when Windows was the new guy struggling to get device drivers. I think we'd all agree that it paid off for Bill.
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Yes, it would be if that was how it was done. The stable/unstable branching hasn't been used since 2.6 came in quite some time ago.
I think the reasoning was that the vast majority of users are using kernels supplied by their distro and those aren't bumped up until the distro maintainers are happy that they are stable anyway, so why bother with two branches, especially since many innovations end up having to be backported to the stable branch because of user demand?
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Well, there's lots of those.
A reader that doesn't crash my browser.
Never seen that happen.
"Navigating" a PDF is about as easy navigating a scanned bitmap of a printed document.
Bollocks.
There's no clue as to whats a link, and whats not.
Okay, that's true, although a consistant use of links can make it easier on the user.
It's simply not a useable way to view information.
As I said before: utter shite. Maybe you just aren't very good at using them, although how anyone could find it difficult is beyond me; PDF is trivial to use and print and not very hard to produce either.
TWW
MS never supported PDF because they wanted to lock everyone into using Word and its format(s) as the way to pass documents around. Never mind that it was a load of crap for such purposes, quality has never figured in MS's designs and probably never will.
So, now that MS has admitted that the world not only wants, but is using someone else's format (a nice, open format) are they going to get with the mainstream and give their customers what they clearly want? Fuck no. Microsoft didn't get where it is today by listening to customers: customers are there to milk via lock-in. Does the farmer ask the cows when they'd like slaughtered?
Instead they've decided, as usual, to tell the customers what they want: a new, propriety document format to solve all the problems they're currently solving with PDF.
In other words, just like Sparkle, Microsoft's response to the market is to pick another battle it can't win. To win, it would have to be addressing some lack in the current offering that has the potential to create a new market they can exploit, but the only lack is one MS sees: revenue from making portable documents. The rest of the world is already making them and has little interest in the "problem". So, basically, the market for Microsoft's new format is...Microsoft itself. So, who cares?
It's good to see Bill lose one occasionally.
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PDF is easy to generate, compact (I can't remember the last time I saw an MS program produce a document 32K long for 4 pages of high quality output), and portable to just about every computer in the world now. Acrobat Reader 7 is pretty good but huge while the various third-pary readers are generally smaller and faster but with less features. Last, but not least, the fonts are handled by the document instead of relying on the reader having the same ones installed as you do. Navigation can be embedded as links both within and to outside of the document.
In short: what more do you want?
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So, in contradiction to what you said in your post, you not only ARE willing to pay but you did in fact pay for protection.
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That doesn't seem to be on the linked page, in fact the linked page seems quite anti-wall in its content to me.
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Oh, yeah, they're whacko alright. Imagine supporting one-man-one-vote in this day and age.
Seriously, there's a lot of stuff on that page you linked to - which part(s) are you objecting to?
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Oops! Someone hasn't noticed the number of trains and ships running Windows. No danger of a virus killing anyone there, then.
I don't experience any significant negative effects from zombie machines, so I am not willing to pay for such a system.
Someone also hasn't noticed the amount of effort that goes into protecting his system from zombie machine. Perhaps he thinks firewalls were a gift from unknown stellar travellers and spam filters require no effort to create and update.
Perhaps someone is a troll.
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Since it seems that American society exists only to serve the purposes of corporations then obviously they are more than involved already. Without corportations civilisation might be in danger of running rampant in the streets of the US of A!
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Document design? DOCUMENT DESIGN! Catch goddamn trip on the clue train here, you people. Clinton told the secret services to go gently on Saudi Arabia, but Bush specifically told them to DROP all investigations that looked like they were going to finger anyone important. Like, for example, any members of that nice Bin Laden family that the Bushes have always got on so well with that they were allowed to leave the country while all other flights were grounded.
Document design! Christ, talk about wanting to believe the lies.
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Keeping Steak and Blowjob Day in Wikipedia is "making a difference"?! Man, you should add an entry for "Pathetic" with just your photo above that statement.
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Right.
I'm sitting beside a new XP Home machine right here. Tell me how to make a PDF from Word.
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Oh, I know a few of them, and as I said, the users (and managers) hate Quark and the fact that they still have to use it when it's clearly five or six years behind InDesign. It is not a stable or valuable position to be hated by your users, regardless of lock-in.
TWW
Err, there's nothing to rebutt. There's no difficulty inherent in running as non-root and thousands of obvious scenarios where it's a bad idea to run as root, from accidental data and program loss to virus spreading. What is the point of running as root? There's no good solution to the problems it causes.
Even in a house with a single machine, there are often multiple users who actually WANT to have their accounts separate.
Changing the date as a non-root user shouldn't require a root password
Why? What's wrong with preventing someone with a confused idea of what the date command does, or a kid playing with the clock on KDE from actually changing the system clock? What is the disadvantage of preventing someone screwing with the system?
Just because someone's rich and uses Linux doesn't mean can't be a moron too, you know.
TWW
But Quark isn't competition anymore; it's a dead product. The only reason it's still in use is legacy files and training issues, but it's universally despised by its users and as far as i can see they all want to switch to InDesign. Meanwhile, Quark is obviously in need of a re-write from the ground up, by which point it would be ANOTHER couple of years behind InDesign.
Adobe would be mad if they paid more than a couple of bucks for Quark. I know I wouldn't.
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Why would they buy it? Quark is antiquated crap.
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No. IE is faster at most things and Opera is faster than both at everything, and it's more secure. IE is just an open door to your hard drive.
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By the density of the air. So, yes, if you launch from 2000ft you only have 8000ft headroom. It will vary slightly based on temperature etc.
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It's a standard option in the mainstream kernel. I've not used it, though, since the standard owner/group/world stuff covers everything I need.
TWW
Apple is afflicted by the largest percentage of "fanboys" of any major OS, and has been for a long time. Criticism, even of the mildest sort is frowned upon, and actually saying that you prefer something else, even if acknowledging that there are some very good points in OS/X or Mac hardware, is a hanging offense.
Oh, shit, I'm off topic! I'm in trouble now!
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OR complain that the director appears to have no ability in his chosen profession. Regardless of adaptation V original, the first film was just plain bad film making.
As regards HHG, Marvin is worrying me. The TV Marvin wasn't what I was expecting but there was a certain irony in it. The film one just isn't funny or ironic.
Like the books and the TV series, I doubt that the film will live up to the radio series, but I suppose I'll go and see it.
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Well, rather brilliantly, I went to bed last night without hitting RETURN so I came down this morning to find "emerge world" sitting waiting for me. It's running now in the background with a nice value of 10; it'll be ready by tomorrow.
If I was using and updating KDE, then I'd have to wait a week.
TWW
I've only done it once in about six years of use, from RedHat to Gentoo. People change cars all the time, it's not that the car is necessarily knackered, it may just be that there's a new model you prefer. In my case, Gentoo was easier to maintain than RedHat so I changed and at the moment I can't imagine needing to change again.
It's not the easiest thing in the world always. Especially when you're trying to do things like upgrade your gcc, libc or other primary libraries. I've learned the hard way that the best way to do that is to start from scratch which is shitty IMO.
Interestingly, I'm planning to do just that tonight. I'll set Gentoo updating when I go to bed and in the morning I may or may not remember that it happened. The previous three times I've updated gcc etc. on Gentoo I didn't have to do anything except give it permission to do it. I admit though that what you are saying is exactly why I droped RedHat after years of use; it was getting harder and harder to maintain.
An X server that didn't cost as much as Windows/OS X to get a fully supported graphics card would be nice as well.
Well, the Intel 8xx chipsets are well supported and are great for anything other than games, so all my office machines just use those, and Nvidia's drivers are unified, so as far as I know their whole range is supported under Linux as well as under Windows/OSX, although I'm not interested in high-end graphics so I'm not sure. Binary only drivers are an evil we can't avoid, but you did say you didn't want to compile anything, so at least that's one you won't have to worry about!
Linux does not 'just work' and until it does, my comments like this will be rated a troll and people will not switch.
Well, it does for me. It won't for people buying cutting edge machines for gaming, but in the last five years Ive only found one machine that I couldn't just install Linux on and then start work. And generally, I get more mileage out of old machines which do work than I would using Windows. I'm typing this on a 400Mhz machine with 200MB of RAM; it's my backup machine, since my main machine is 400 miles away, and I use it for graphic design, photo manip, web design, and as a test bed web server. Such hardware would be turned away by charity shops these days but I'm earning a living off it. What I'm not doing is 3D rendering in real-time.
But what about your random piece of hardware that 'works on windows' but has no driver or even worse, the 'experimental' driver in linux.
Well, what about it? I can't use Mac hardware either but I don't buy "random hardware", I look at the Web and find out what does work and I buy that. There's nothing anyone can do about drivers that don't work under Linux other than buy the competitor and let the market work it out. And it will work it out, just as it did when Windows was the new guy struggling to get device drivers. I think we'd all agree that it paid off for Bill.
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