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Telegraph Reviews Hitchhiker Movie, Approves

LPetrazickis writes "The Telegraph has reviewed the movie adaptation of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The review notes that the film is every bit as much a loving tribute to Douglas Adams as it is a joyous comedy. American actors acquit themselves well, and the sense of intelligent wonder transfers well to the technicolour screen. The many incarnations of The Guide are summarized at the end."

293 comments

  1. So does it suck, or not? by AvantLegion · · Score: 0
    Someone make up their mind!

    (And no, I'm not going to drop $9 to find out - I'll let everyone else do that)

    1. Re:So does it suck, or not? by SeiRyu · · Score: 1

      Doesn't matter. You know you're going to see it eitherway. =]

    2. Re:So does it suck, or not? by kyle90 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who cares, I know I'll be seeing it. Opening night. Vogon poetry couldn't keep me away from the theater for this one.

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    3. Re:So does it suck, or not? by anotherone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sure it isn't as good as the books were, but either way I'm going to see it. I'll be there opening day, even if everyone in the world tells me it sucks. Why? Because even if it shits on DNA's grave, it's still the Hitchhiker's Guide Movie, damn it, and I'm a Hitchhiker's Guide fan.

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    4. Re:So does it suck, or not? by metlin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately, I will not be.

      I've seen the BBC series and it simply rocks.

      I've had every other favorite book of mine trashed - Lord of the Rings, Dune, I, Robot and a quintillion others.

      I'm not ready to watch the movie and destroy what I've treasured all this while. And most importantly, when I re-read the book, the images from the movie will stick in my mind - something I really do not want to happen.

      I'll go with the earlier review -- I'm a purist of sorts in this regard, and I'm fairly certain I'll hate the movie. :-)

    5. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      wow, too bad your head is so far up your posterior that you cant accept a movie for what it is, entertainment, and instead pretend to be all intellectual and instead trash it. You must lead a boring and unfilled life, saying that movies such as LoTR ruined the book reading experience for you. If you're so unimaginative that you wont go watch what could be a great 2 hour distraction you must spend a lot of time in your parent's basement.

    6. Re:So does it suck, or not? by metlin · · Score: 1

      Eh?

      I'm sorry, I cannot see a movie that is so badly skewed from the original that it made me grimace the first time I watched the trailer. People did not even have British accents, for cryin' out loud.

      And LoTR - it was a nice movie by itself, but a bad adaptation. An adaptation is something that's based on the original, and Peter Jackson's version had so many flaws in comparison to the books.

      Like I said, I'm a purist in these things - and it's my opinion.

      While I do not particularly expect the movies to be true to the word, I expect them to be true to the spirit. LoTR was neither true to the word nor true to the spirit of the book -- and that is merely my opinion.

      And yeah, to each his own. Perhaps I'm indeed unimaginative, but that's none of your problem. If you don't agree with my opinion, fine and dandy. But it's none of your fucking business in telling me what I should or should not like.

    7. Re:So does it suck, or not? by sisukapalli1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've had every other favorite book of mine trashed - Lord of the Rings...

      If you think the LOTR movies "trashed" the books, then you would probably not like *any adaptation* of a book. As you said, if you don't want "images from the movie to stick" in your mind, the best bet is to not watch it. So, you don't really need to go with any review -- you seem to have an issue with the visual medium itself.

      S

    8. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hehe, i'm sorry, this is just funny
      But it's none of your fucking business in telling me what I should or should not like.
      Just after proclaiming that the views of one reviewer are gonna keep him out of the theatre...

      hehe, i love hypocrisy in all its forms...

    9. Re:So does it suck, or not? by metlin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh that's just part of the problem.

      My primary grudge with LoTR was that while it was a good story on its own, it wasn't in any way related to Tolkien's world.

      One of the things that made LoTR powerful was the strength of the characters - I find that missing in LoTR. I felt that almost all the characters were trashed and made to appear rather simplistic or even comical.

      For instance - both Ghost in the Shell and Sincity weren't bad adaptations, and both held quite true to the spirit of the books.

      Then again, maybe it's just me.

    10. Re:So does it suck, or not? by metlin · · Score: 1

      Not particularly.

      If you'd read my entire comment, you would have noted that I'd mentioned the trailer that I'd seen (and hated).

      The fact that even at the very basic level all the characters looked exactly not like what I'd imagined them to be, the fact that they spoke American accents and the bad humor pissed me off.

      The review was the proverbial straw.

    11. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I can confirm that it's just you.

    12. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Bush+Pig · · Score: 4, Interesting

      > it wasn't in any way related to Tolkien's world.

      What? I thought it was an extremely faithful adaption, given the limitations imposed by trying to compress three fat books into a mere 9 hours (or whatever) of movie. And before you ask, I've read LoTR so many times since my mum bought it for my birthday in 1962 that my original copy has just about fallen apart. Btw, I've never felt that Tolkien's characterisation was all that strong - most of the characters are little better than cardboard cutouts.

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    13. Re:So does it suck, or not? by anotherone · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you think the BBC series "simply rocks", you are delusional, plain and simple. I love the series, but I'm not going to lie to myself- the BBC series was painful to watch.

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    14. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      People did not even have British accents, for cryin' out loud.

      Are you being sarcastic? You do realise that the only character who is British is Arthur, right? And Arther has a British accent in the movie.

    15. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ghost in the Shell had the advantage that the source material wasn't any good in the first place.

    16. Re:So does it suck, or not? by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "I'm sure it isn't as good as the books were..."

      Truth be told, I think the problem will be more to do with the fans than with the movie itself. You're gonna have one group of fans who wants to see a literal play by play of everything in the book. (Fat chance.) You're gonna have another group of fans who'll like it simply because it provides some visuals to what theyv'e seen. You're gonna have another group of fans who think they know what the formula to success was, then count up all the ways the movie didn't succeed.

      I'm worried that if I end up liking the movie, I'll convince somebody else to see it and get chewed for it.

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    17. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      One of the greatest skills you can ever develop in your life is the ability to make up your own mind.

      If you go through life accepting other people's judgements, your experiences will be sadly lacking.

      Go see the damn movie :)

    18. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For every person who things Ghost In The Shell is a landmark film, there's another person who believes that Oshii completely fucked up Shirow's comic.

    19. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Btw, I've never felt that Tolkien's characterisation was all that strong - most of the characters are little better than cardboard cutouts.

      Glad someone said it. I really liked the books and movies, but depth of characterization wasn't a priority for Tolkein. Given that his interests were with mythology, that wasn't surprising, but let's not pretend his work was something it wasn't intended to be. Most of the characters were either "white hats" or "black hats." Exceptions were mainly limited to Gondor, where Denethor was plain nuts, Boromir was a good flawed hero, and Faramir was very well rounded.

      The treatment of Faramir, actually, was my greatest disappointment with the movie (theater version especially).

    20. Re:So does it suck, or not? by toomanyhandles · · Score: 1

      >As you said, if you don't want "images from the >movie to stick" in your mind, the best bet is to >not watch it.

      I've read this type of comment a few times in the articles abotu the new movie, reviews, etc.

      What I don't get: haven't all these people SEEN THE SERIES? The BBC TV series is really well done, the dialog for what is included is almost word for word from the book.

      I already have a picture in my head. Some of it came from the first reading of the book, the rest, from the other TV series. I thought they cast Arthur and Ford perfectly...

      What makes the HHGG book so fun for me is the dialog- the word play, etc. I could handle (barely) leaving bits of plot out, etc, but shortening or trimming all the _fun_ parts of the dialog out, as the earlier review of the new movie showed mentioned, would just kill the thing. IMO.

    21. Re:So does it suck, or not? by metlin · · Score: 3, Insightful


      Well, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. Peter Jackson's movie was well made as a fantasy movie, just not LoTR.

      It's not the compressed part that got to me, but the fact that he changed a lot of things that need not have been changed - making Gimli into a comical character, portraying Faramir as someone who gives into temptation, horrible portrayal of Lady Galadriel, Aragorn and a lot of others. Not to mention tonnes of inconsistencies (Glorifendel's role, for instance) and such.

      PJ did not have to make these changes, yet he did - that is what irritated me.

    22. Re:So does it suck, or not? by jazman_777 · · Score: 1
      I've had every other favorite book of mine trashed - Lord of the Rings, Dune, I, Robot and a quintillion others.

      I'm still bitter about what has been done to _War and Peace_ and _Les Miserables_. Completely inadequate.

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    23. Re:So does it suck, or not? by yesteraeon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Thank you! I was beginning to think everyone else (or maybe possibly I) was crazy! It was very painful. Personally, I got through half of the first episode, stopped it and deleted the entire series from my harddrive and did a DoD compliant wipe out of empty space just to be extra safe.

    24. Re:So does it suck, or not? by tim256 · · Score: 1

      I saw the long trailer of the movie, and the trailer was pretty good. Usually there are a few movie reviews that tell you if the movie sucks or not before it comes out, so there's no reason to worry about it now unless you plan your life weeks in advance.

    25. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not a flame but constructive criticism: you're being close-minded. When you read the books, you made your own mental images of things and characters, as I did mine, and as did the people involved in the movie. They're all different and it seems you can't handle that. When most people see the movie, they think "oh ok, their way of imagining some things is different than mine, but still cool." You don't, you want everybody to think like you.

    26. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought they cast Arthur and Ford perfectly...

      Ah but what about Trillian, and Marvin, and to a certain extent Zaphod? I thought Trillian was totally misrepresented in the TV series, and Marvin's look was very unimaginative. Zaphod was OK, but he could've been cast much better. The TV series had its major flaws too, you've just gotten at such a stage of worship that you close your eyes on them.

    27. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realise that the only character who is British is Arthur, right?

      And Trillian. I believe the sperm whale is Irish.

    28. Re:So does it suck, or not? by fcolari · · Score: 2, Funny

      I thought he was from... Wales. (Hides)

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    29. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Angry+Toad · · Score: 1

      It was mostly awful. All the same Arthur really was Arthur, and the actor playing Slartibartfast seriously nailed the part.

      Apart from that, awful, no argument.

    30. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      The only point on which I'd be inclined to agree with you is turning Gimli into a Comical Mexican Sidekick (but I didn't let it bother me too much). I think the other changes were covered under the terms of Jackson's dramatic licence, because they worked.

      Don't forget that most of the punters had never even _heard_ of Tolkien before these films were made, and certainly wouldn't have been able to deal with the greater complexities of plot involved in making the movies conform 100% to the books.

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    31. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Spua7 · · Score: 1

      I am going to step right up and admitt that I do have a problem with the visual medium itself. I try not to but I get really disappointed every time I see a movie version of a book. Movies are much more limited in many details of a story. I may take the advise of the parent poster above and not watch the movie for HHGG. I think I would watch it just to complain about the conversion.

    32. Re:So does it suck, or not? by metlin · · Score: 1

      There is a fine line between commenting and belittling, I think you continue to do the latter. I do not expect others to have the same views as mine, however that does not mean they could arrive at conclusions on why I hold those views - that's my own damn problem.

      You do not like them? Fine, you've let it be known. But do not tell me what you think of me just because my views differ from yours.

      Personally, I think you are a narrow-minded person who has trouble accepting the fact that people may somehow have preferences of their choosing which could be quite different from yours - is that so hard to see? It could be for any number of reasons, but the fact remains that I'm quite picky and puritanical about adaptations - that's just the way I'm wired.

      Just because you disagree with my views does not mean you should disrespect them - you would do well to learn some courteousness.

    33. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Poverty+P'uh · · Score: 1

      "The treatment of Faramir, actually, was my greatest disappointment with the movie (theater version especially). "

      Agreed.

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    34. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Jason+Earl · · Score: 1

      The abridged version of Les Miserables is one of the best books ever written. The unabridged version of the book, on the other hand, was horrific. Victor needed an editor so bad it hurts. At one point Jean Valjean jumps over the wall into a monastery and Victor launches into a two hundred page rant about monasteries. Jean Valjean then jumps over another wall into a nunnery, and the story gets back on track. The reason was simple, by the time that Victor Hugo wrote Les Miserables he was so popular that he could bull past his editor, and he was as much a politician as a writer.

      War and Peace, is something else altogether. I don't think that I have ever read a book where I despised more of the characters. Heck, I was glad every time one of them died. It's no wonder the Russian people rose up and ran all of those aristocratic losers out of the country. Even communism would be better than those guys (yes, I realize W&P is fiction).

    35. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 3, Insightful

      One of the things that made LoTR powerful was the strength of the characters

      From the typical viewpoint of "characters are people", then the LOTR books had hardly any characterization. The members of the fellowship were hardly more than stereotypes.

      Only if you look at it in context and understand that those stereotypes were new inventions (at that time) can you grasp why the series had such acclaim. In a way, the entire races and cultures of elves, dwarves, orcs and hobbits were characters of themselves.

      Readers born after the 1970s will barely recognize that fact, because the ideas have been copied so broadly through D&D, World of Warcraft, etc.

    36. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Love the books, love the radio series, can't wait to see the film... but I rented the BBC series from the library once and it burned.

      I try not to think about it... but the good news is there's almost no way the film can be worse.

    37. Re:So does it suck, or not? by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When the hell people would understand that book is what characters THINK, and movie is what your characters SPEAK!!

      Writer writes a book, not script/screenplay of a movie. So, a movie based on the book can not be SAME AS THE BOOK EVER!!! It is a completely different medium - to tell the same story.

      A book leaves it to the reader to imagine how characters, places look. Hence it is a very personalized product for the reader. Movie leaves little left to imagination (in this context). It can not be as personal as the book might have been.

      That is the reason why most of the movies based on very popular/cult books have been largely disappointing to the fanboys - just because it is not what THEY imagined/visualized it. And they are never going to be satisfied with the movie based on their favorite book. If one can not figure how great (and also faithful) LOTR movies have been to the book, well, H2G2 is a far cry.

    38. Re:So does it suck, or not? by ErikZ · · Score: 1

      Ah yes. The fact that the aliens speak American english instead of British english is good enough reason to completely discount the whole movie.

      By the way, did you ever follow up on your review of that one episode of "Itchy and Scratchy"?

      'Worst. Episode. Ever."

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    39. Re:So does it suck, or not? by jazman_777 · · Score: 1
      At one point Jean Valjean jumps over the wall into a monastery and Victor launches into a two hundred page rant about monasteries.

      It was only 47 pages. Anyway, you are right about the digressions that Hugo took. They are insufferably tedious. Tolstoy had the same problem with _War and Peace_, because he fancied himself an historian.

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    40. Re:So does it suck, or not? by el-spectre · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Eh, Tolkein didn't so much flesh out characterizations of individuals, as family lines. For example, it's not necessarily what Aragorn has done (most of his actual story is in the apendices), but WHO he is (is descended from).

      I will agree that Faramir was unsettling (although I understand why they did it), and I felt they nailed Boromir as a good -but too proud- man.

      To be fair, Denethor wasn't "plain nuts", Sauron drove him to it (and oh, how I wanted to see that in the extended cut) via the palantir.

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    41. Re:So does it suck, or not? by el-spectre · · Score: 1

      I thought Arthur was done pretty well, but Ford "used car salesman" Prefect was pretty odd.

      I always pictured him as (at least in his own mind) really slick, with a kinda manic grin most of the time...

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    42. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trillian's nationality isn't definitively established. She is American in the OP's beloved TV series. The only confirmed English character to survive the destruction of Earth (Mark I) is Arthur.

    43. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Zonnald · · Score: 0

      Even in the BBC series Trillian had an American accent.

    44. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Only if you look at it in context and understand that those stereotypes were new inventions (at that time) can you grasp why the series had such acclaim. In a way, the entire races and cultures of elves, dwarves, orcs and hobbits were characters of themselves.


      I don't think this is particularly true. Elves, dwarves, orcs and hobbits (halflings,) i.e. most of Tolkein's characters are generally consolidated reproductions of archetypes used throughout Norse, German and English mythology. If you go through the sources that influenced Tolkein, you'll notice that very few of his characterizations were new or original.

    45. Re:So does it suck, or not? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 1

      I have to disagree ,it was great . It had a wonderfull comedy vent and i thourghly enjoy whatching it.
      Hitchikers was a radio play first , the book was an adaptation of a radioplay if you'll remember, and the TV show was a rather faitfull adaptation of the radio play not the book the book was also an adaptation of the radio play , however the book was less faithfull to the play.

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    46. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the radio series she most certainly has an English accent, and in the books I don't believe she ever mentions her place of origin but she was attending a party in Islington so was at least in the UK.

    47. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ford and Arthur in the TV series are exactly the same Ford and Arthur from the radio series.

    48. Re:So does it suck, or not? by toomanyhandles · · Score: 1

      Well, the TV series was a long time ago, Zaphod was cutting edge puppetry for the time. At least he looked drunk a lot. The techy effects would be great to see done with the newer tech now. But without the wordplay... I don't know. It's like watching Shakespeare- with good actors and the real dialogue, the Royal Shakespeare comany doesn't even bother with a set- just a frame doorway or whatever. Adams was wonderful with the quirky _dialogue_.

    49. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as a filmamker, writer and science fiction fan, i must take offence to your idiocy and at the same time admire your fanatical passion.

      Dune ? it was a handsome and brilliant stab at such a monumental work. Lynch was perfect for it.

      furthermore, I enjoyed 'i, robot'. it was awful. but it was nice. it wasn't cheaply hacked off - it was great. it was nice compared to the genric rubbish out there -- miss congeniality? please!.
      on the other hand i hated lord of the rings movie. but i will admit it was a great shot at bringing the LoTR to teh screen.

      the star wars prequels?
      absolutley great netertainment. awful at times as the man clearly isnt a brilllaint director.
      but he is out there - doing soemthing he belives in.[at some level]

      i appreciate it compared to the pap tat usa seems to be obsessed with producing.

      in fact it has been the sci fi market ebing so huge and profitable that has allowed the risks to be taken on small indie films by Fox searchlight et al. we may yet see another golden age of the classic movie due to all the talent ebing encouraged by the successes of Zissou and Garden State.

    50. Re:So does it suck, or not? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1
      Vogon poetry couldn't keep me away from the theater for this one.

      But could the poetry of Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings?
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    51. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wouldn't have been able to deal with the greater complexities of plot involved in making the movies conform 100% to the books.

      Don't stop there, enlighten us... what are these complexities you speak of? I have to ask, because I never found any portion of plot in the books to be particularly complex.

    52. Re:So does it suck, or not? by el-spectre · · Score: 1

      Wikipedia disagrees, but I was more referring to the character descriptions in the books.

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    53. Re:So does it suck, or not? by LtOcelot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you think the LOTR movies "trashed" the books, then you would probably not like *any adaptation* of a book.

      Jackson did trash Two Towers, which ought to have been much more suited to the screen than Fellowship. Look at how badly Theoden's character got screwed -- converted from probably the most sympathetic human character in the novel into an arrogant, cowardly fool. Not only did Jackson and his screenwriters turn that character into cardboard, he rewrote things so that holding the Hornburg was the safe and stupid action rather than a brave last stand that would be the one hope for the country. In so doing, he takes one of the two great battles of the novel and drops it into a context where it is made to feel wrong and pointless. Then Jackson compounds the fuckup by cutting out the final confrontation with Saruman and pushing forward the Shelob encounter to RotK; with those three key elements gone, the entire movie winds up being pretty pointless too.

      Maybe saying that Jackson and his screenwriters trashed LOTR is too harsh, but they really did fuck up Two Towers.

    54. Re:So does it suck, or not? by circusboy · · Score: 1

      two problems I had with LOTR
      1)merry and pippin's bit with the ents reminded me too much of leia's "do it for the trees" speech from ROTJ which was also not good.

      2) the destruction of Faramir. In the books, one of the main themes of the story was the way in which people responded to the test of the ring, and how people responded to those who had been tested. Boromir failed the test of the ring, but was beloved by his father. Faramir passed, and was hated by same. this latter part was not only glossed over in the movie, but in parts, destroyed. Since it always seemed to me that the books as a whole were about tests of faith and will, and the example of Boromir/Faramir was the closest analogue to an average human's responses, ( as opposed to a king's, wizard's, hobbit's) removing or altering this part was the biggest crime of the movies. I could live with pretty much everything else, but that part in the second movie, blew the rest for me. I enjoyed the first one quite a bit, but after this gaffe, the third didn't mean much.

      of course, this is a personal opinion (not to mention OT) and I'm sure there are disagreements to come.

      as far as h2g2 the movie, try to view it with a short memory. unlike LOTR, h2g2 has a history of being fluid in content, there's always the possibility it might be a good time.

      high hopes, low expectations... recipe for (some sort of) happiness.

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    55. Re:So does it suck, or not? by rizzo5 · · Score: 1

      Yes, because Geoffrey McGivern and David Dixon are secretly the same person.

    56. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy shit, man, you are not a writer. Your spelling, punctuation, and grammar are nothing short of atrocious.

    57. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      AC: Elves, dwarves, orcs and hobbits (halflings,) i.e. most of Tolkein's characters are generally consolidated reproductions of archetypes used throughout

      Obviously, the names are the same as in ancient myth, but the attributes given to them are mainly original. Pre-Tolkien, dwarves and elves were ghostly spirits, not flesh-and-blood people. They weren't characters- they were godlike forces of nature that shaped the characters' world. Compare the elves in Shakespere or the dwarves in Beowulf to any post-Tolkien representations, and you'll see a tremendous difference.

      PS. Pre-Tolkien, an "orc" was a carnivorous manatee, a sea-monster.

    58. Re:So does it suck, or not? by metlin · · Score: 1

      Nah, he's not a writer.

      He just plays one on Slashdot. ;-)

    59. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, no reply... exactly as I thought.

    60. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      Have you actually read the books?

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    61. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that was pretty much implied by my statement. Stop dodging the question.

    62. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      I'm not dodging anything. The entangled storylines in the books are reasonably complicated, and I was quite impressed by the way the movies handled it. While there are lots of books with a more complicated plot than LotR, it takes some effort to keep track of everything that's going on (but not as much as, say, "The Brothers Karamazov", I'll grant).

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    63. Re:So does it suck, or not? by AussieVamp2 · · Score: 1

      Lord of the Rings characters ARE simplistic. That was part of his point.

    64. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Hittite+Creosote · · Score: 1

      I thought the Whale was voiced by Bill Bailey, and he's from Somerset.

    65. Re:So does it suck, or not? by Hittite+Creosote · · Score: 1

      Douglas Adams himself said the only character who had to be English was Arthur. So since the real original is what existed in Adams' head, your claim that this is badly skewed from the original because of accents is a load of Belgium.

    66. Re:So does it suck, or not? by srleffler · · Score: 1

      I disagree. While he drew on preexisting mythologies, he created something that was new to English literature. For example, elves existed in English literature and mythology before Tolkien, but they were not much like Tolkien's elves. Nearly all of the 'elves' in fantasy literature after Tolkien, however, follow Tolkien's model.

  2. Re:oh yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL.
    ME TOO!

  3. Box office earnings... by kwoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I forecast 42 million dollars in the first day. :P

    1. Re:Box office earnings... by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

      That would be creepy.

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    2. Re:Box office earnings... by jdvorak · · Score: 1

      hear hear deep thought!

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    3. Re:Box office earnings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We might need an Improbablilty drive for that..

    4. Re:Box office earnings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well if it does make that much on the first day, I guess we DO know what the question is.

    5. Re:Box office earnings... by razjml · · Score: 1

      Although that might be optimistic, I can easily see it taking in over 100 million. Hitchhiker is a very beloved series, both in and outside of the traditional geek sector.

    6. Re:Box office earnings... by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Funny
      I forecast 42 million dollars in the first day

      ...careful, it might be just $42 depending on which review you believe!

    7. Re:Box office earnings... by onepoint · · Score: 1

      No that would be another great joke and again the answer is proven correct

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    8. Re:Box office earnings... by SidV · · Score: 5, Funny

      6 Million Theartres X 9 Million Theatres = 42 Million dollars.

      Highly possible since the math used by Production companies to figure out the Net when there are people getting paid a portion of the Net is even more complicated, mysterious and convuleted than Bistromathematics.

      Ask anyone who's ever taken a percentage of the Net, Production company will show that it lost more money than it took to actually produce it.

    9. Re:Box office earnings... by Jason+Earl · · Score: 1

      Fah, I am going to spend $42 on the movie myself the first day. How bad could the movie be? Douglas Adams wrote the screenplay, and it's got Zaphod Beeblebrox in it (even if he apparently only has one head).

    10. Re:Box office earnings... by Deltaspectre · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's more likely it will be 6 Million Theartres X 9 Dollars = 42 Million dollars.

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    11. Re:Box office earnings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes but the Ultimate Question is how much it makes the second weekend.

    12. Re:Box office earnings... by thatnerdguy · · Score: 1

      hear hear! i'm in the process of reading the series now (hands in geek card) but i am hooked! and i will most certainly be there opening day!

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    13. Re:Box office earnings... by thatnerdguy · · Score: 1

      Wow, that post made no sense at all! And I like math!

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    14. Re:Box office earnings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That still doesn't work out, you know...

    15. Re:Box office earnings... by negative0 · · Score: 1

      Except that 6x9 = 54, not 42. But if we are talking about improbabilities becoming reality, then that might just prove it.

    16. Re:Box office earnings... by netsharc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's opening April 28th - co-incidentally a Thursday - a couple of weeks earlier than Episode III. Some part of me wishes Disney had the guts to release it the same weekend as EpIII, where it should (as part of my wish) then win the box-office-numbers-penis-size-competition. That would be a great way of showing Lucas what the viewing public thinks of him.

      OTOH, there must be millions of geeks out there who know Star Wars but don't know HHGTG, so the movie can't win the numbers. Still, it should be a good fun movie for the droves of viewers who will be disappointed by EpIII. (Getting my hopes up, the trailer seems ass-kicking enough.)

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    17. Re:Box office earnings... by MonkeyOfRage · · Score: 1, Insightful

      *sigh*

      Bistromathematics... six times nine... hello?

      Could someone who's actually read the books mod the parent as funny please?

    18. Re:Box office earnings... by John+Pliskin · · Score: 1

      Look up Base 13 Math.

      $

    19. Re:Box office earnings... by friedo · · Score: 4, Funny

      #include <stdio.h>

      #define SIX 1 + 5
      #define NINE 8 + 1

      int main() {
      printf("%d times %d is %d\n", SIX, NINE, SIX * NINE);
      }

    20. Re:Box office earnings... by MayonakaHa · · Score: 1

      Watch the trailer again, the second head isn't where you'd expect (and not there either you sick bastages out there =p)

    21. Re:Box office earnings... by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 2, Funny

      it might be just $42

      The odds of that happening are enough to drive the Heart of Gold from one end of the galaxy to the other in a new record time..

    22. Re:Box office earnings... by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

      Nobody writes jokes in base-13.

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    23. Re:Box office earnings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Douglas Adams wrote the screenplay

      Correction, he was working on the screen play. Then he died. He also had voiced dissatisfaction with some of it. Go read the Douglas Adams forums (what remains of them, anyway).

      This is simply a botch job intended to rake in millions at the expense of a world full of fans.

    24. Re:Box office earnings... by Clockwork+Apple · · Score: 1

      "I am going to spend $42 on the movie myself the first day."

      Ah, so you are going alone, and dont plan to stay for the second screening? Screw em, I can wait to hate this in my livingroom, for 2 bucks on PPV.

      I will probably invite my friends over to hate it with me, too. Just like I did with "Return of the King"

      C.

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    25. Re:Box office earnings... by UWC · · Score: 1

      And you thought you'd never again have to constructively (maybe creatively?) use knowledge of order of operations!

    26. Re:Box office earnings... by trisweb · · Score: 1

      No, 6 Million Theartres X 9 Million Theatres = 54 Trillion Theatres Squared....

      Unless of course a "Theartre" is some currency with an exchange rate of 857,142 to the Dollar, in which case I apologize for insulting your homeland, and send my condolences to your 9 million theatres making only seven dollars per movie.

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    27. Re:Box office earnings... by leshert · · Score: 1

      Except that "6x9" equalling "42" is a crucial joke in the book.

    28. Re:Box office earnings... by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

      Nah...in might be improbable but infinitely improbable?

    29. Re:Box office earnings... by SidV · · Score: 1

      DOH!

  4. Must Watch by StratoChief66 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't have a choice, I must see it to either enjoy it or to hack it to pieces in person with my friends. Not watching it is not an option, no matter how bad it is.

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  5. Will The Movie Be A Trilogy Too? by rewinn · · Score: 4, Funny

    If a book trilogy can consistent of 5 books, why can't a movie trilogy consist of 1 movie?

    1. Re:Will The Movie Be A Trilogy Too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The movie's just covering the first book, but there are a few elements from other books. Presumably if it's received well, they'll do as many of the books as they can get away with.

    2. Re:Will The Movie Be A Trilogy Too? by rewinn · · Score: 1

      Let's hope they don't do something so boring as make 3 movies and call it a triology. A triology of 2 movies or 4 would be much better!

    3. Re:Will The Movie Be A Trilogy Too? by TrickyRaven · · Score: 1

      It'll probably be a 42 movies trilogy if everyone remembers to bring along a towel...

    4. Re:Will The Movie Be A Trilogy Too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer this take on the books: Mostly Harmless? That's the fifth book in the four part trilogy.

    5. Re:Will The Movie Be A Trilogy Too? by TCQuad · · Score: 4, Funny

      A trilogy: a set of 3±2 literary or dramatic works related in subject or theme.

    6. Re:Will The Movie Be A Trilogy Too? by A+Brand+of+Fire · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think Piers Anthony took the whole concept to an entirely new level, turning his Xanth 'trilogy' into... what is it now, 27 books? I still get a chuckle out of that. And for those who haven't read it already, I highly recommend the series.

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    7. Re:Will The Movie Be A Trilogy Too? by say · · Score: 3, Funny

      That reminds me: A TV show about movies in Norway recently proclaimed Star Wars to be the "best double sci-fi movie trilogy ever". And what's the competition?

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  6. CHA CHING! by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    Wonder how much money was floated to make a suck up article to Hollywood.

    the movie contains no references to the pan galactic gargleblaster, and ignores the towel.

    the mouse bit at the end is teh suck.

    I'll go back and watch the 6 bbc episodes instead.

    So long, and I'll laugh at all the fish who go see it in the theater. (Dumb fish)

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    1. Re:CHA CHING! by ilyaaohell · · Score: 2, Informative

      RTFA:

      Most of the book's best lines and situations survive. The phrase "Don't Panic!" is liberally sprinkled around, "42" is still the answer to the ultimate question, Arthur still can't quite get the hang of Thursdays - and a towel, a manic-depressive android and a whale falling from the sky all make important appearances.

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    2. Re:CHA CHING! by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

      And of course - the ending is still teh suck.

      Mice, on earth - wanting to get the brain.

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    3. Re:CHA CHING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh. On the site Ford has a Towell on his shoulders.

    4. Re:CHA CHING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunatly these things by themselves are not funny. It was Adam's writing, his phrasing that made them funny. If the wording/dialogue/discriptions did not survive, then the joke did not survive.

    5. Re:CHA CHING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you actually paid any attention, particularly to other threads in this discussion, you'd notice that parts of the film are narrated using Adams's words, as is clear in this clip of the "whale" scene:

      http://maximonline.com/entertainment/features/hitc hhiker/

    6. Re:CHA CHING! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd love to, but I don't have Windows Media Player and MPlayer can't stream it. Anyone got a downloadable copy of that WMV any place?

    7. Re:CHA CHING! by imashination · · Score: 2, Informative

      Then perhaps you should watch it before slating it. The film DOES contain the gargleblaster and even shows it being made, plus towels feature aplenty.

    8. Re:CHA CHING! by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1

      Unlikely. The Telegraph doesn't normally shill.

  7. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Informative

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  8. Mindless entertainment for the masses by DmitryProletariat · · Score: 0, Troll
    Be warned by fellow comrades,

    tripe of this sort will warp your mind. It will turn you into the automatons your capitalist masters demand. It is the means whereby your individuality is sucked out through your nose and bottled up by capitalists, who then turn it into bourgeois French perfume. It is an opium. Except you don't smoke it. Or inject it. Or stick it up your nose.

    The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy might seem like a million wonders, like stars speckling the night sky. It is not. It is a dangerous weapon to sap you of your humanity and dignity. When walking into the theater your first thought will be: Do I want popcorn or JuJuBes with my Coke? And upon walking out you will feel a strange desire to kiss a woman. Resist this temptation!!! Join the mass of thinking men who will avoid this capitalist propaganda and SAAAAAAVE YOURSELVES!!!!

    1. Re:Mindless entertainment for the masses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL! I just spit coke on my monitor!!!

    2. Re:Mindless entertainment for the masses by NanoGator · · Score: 1
      "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy might seem like a million wonders, like stars speckling the night sky. It is not. It is a dangerous weapon to sap you of your humanity and dignity. When walking into the theater your first thought will be: Do I want popcorn or JuJuBes with my Coke? And upon walking out you will feel a strange desire to kiss a woman. Resist this temptation!!! Join the mass of thinking men who will avoid this capitalist propaganda and SAAAAAAVE YOURSELVES!!!!"


      I've heard enough of this sort of bullshit over the years that I would have considered this satire before 'troll'.
      --
      "Derp de derp."
  9. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Interesting

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  10. Duuuuude... by Dante+Shamest · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't smoke dope and post at /. at the same time.

    1. Re:Duuuuude... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoah.

      deep.

  11. Gargleblaster makes final cut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    10th April 2005
    Gargleblaster makes final cut
    I have now spoken with Kevin Jon Davies and he confirms that the Guide entry on the Pan Galactic Gargleblaster is in the finished version which he saw this morning. Stephen Fry's narration plays over the scene of Zaphod mixing drinks for himself and Ford (using his third hand) which was briefly seen in the trailer. This narration was not in the version that I saw.
    -Planet Magrathea ( MJ Simpson)

  12. Re:Some Clips from the movie by Golden_Eternity · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thanks for the link. The whale falling monologue seems to have been reproduced faithfully (slightly cut and rushed, but it was there), which gives me some renewed faith in the film.

  13. Cake is for eating by nakly · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What's sad is how unfair criticism of this movie is inevitable, rather it turns out to be any good or not. When you get something that's so ridiculously popular with such a devout fanbase, there's going to be a gigantor contingent of those who aren't capable of understanding that this is not the book. Can anyone say LotR?

    I, for one, look forward to the movie. I have confidence that it will incredibly funny, while still staying true to the spirit of the books. I ask all those who demand a carbon copy to please bellyache out of my earshot.

    1. Re:Cake is for eating by Matilda+the+Hun · · Score: 1

      If you're trying to compare it to LotR, compare it to the cartoon version. This happens to be changing major plot points and things that are taken for granted in every incarnation of it? IE, Zaphod's extra appendages? One of which gets removed? LotR might have removed some things, but there's a difference between removing and completely changing.

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    2. Re:Cake is for eating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to invent a pooper-scooper, then Go Ahead. But don't call it a Porche.

    3. Re:Cake is for eating by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      What's sad is how unfair criticism of this movie is inevitable, rather it turns out to be any good or not. I have confidence that it will incredibly funny, while still staying true to the spirit of the books.

      Wait, so you're complaining that people are going to judge the movie on their preconceptions rather than the actual quality of the movie, and then you imediatly declare, without having seen it, that it's fantastic?

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    4. Re:Cake is for eating by kamapuaa · · Score: 1, Troll

      Congratulations, you are an ideal consumer.

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    5. Re:Cake is for eating by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      As I remember, the book, movie and radio series were all wildly inconsistent with each other, and that's part of the charm. You can repurpose the basic idea and characters into multiple media and it doesn't get stale because the words are different, the characters are different, and the plot shifts.

      So I would give this a chance, as it is, before condemning it.

      Of course if you want to condemn it, you can always count on the capalert guy to do it for you, but that seems a little narrow-minded to me.

      D

    6. Re:Cake is for eating by mink · · Score: 1

      Capalert guy, while a good read for laughs, seems to have a blind spot.
      Films he grew up with and loves aparently are immune to his laser like analasys. Check his review of Kiki's delivery service, and then compare it to his review of Mary Poppins.
      I cant wait to read his views on Sin City.

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    7. Re:Cake is for eating by daviddennis · · Score: 1
      Why wait? Here it is.

      I've never heard of Kiki's Delivery Service and could not find his review of it, so I can't comment on that aspect of your message.

      However, I re-read the first paragraph of his review of Mary Poppins, and at the beginning of same, he writes as follows:

      Mary Poppins was a delightful romp for children and the young at heart through a make-believe world of frolic and fantasy. There were no instances of offensive material throughout the movie. While there were several occurences of "magic," there was nothing evil or sinister about any of the "magic." Mary could have been angelic. While some might consider the "We won't go to sleep!" from Michael to Mary Poppins to be arrogance and/or impudence, the obstinence was NOT at his parents. All instances of Jane and Michael taking issue with parental authority (e.g., the song) were with respect and even apology. I cannot find in the Bible anywhere God has a problem with children disagreeing with their parents but I can find a LOT of warnings against arrogance toward and rebellion against parents -- a LOT -- and with severe consequences ... and even more severe consequences for parents who abuse the authority and position He gave them.


      Looks like you got something there. He is clearly making excuses to game his system and give Mary Poppins a perfect score. Reading this is especially interesting in light of his review of Harry Potter.

      It is possible, indeed probable, that there is no way to make a movie with a plot or conflict between characters without incidents of impudence or offense to God as described in his model.

      D
  14. I wish I could believe him, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sounds rather bought-and-paid-for to me. Puff piece. Astroturf, even.

    And what's with nonsense like:
    Zooey Deschanel as Trillian, a minor character in Adams's book

    or

    and a towel, a manic-depressive android and a whale falling from the sky all make important appearances.

    I'm sorry, Trillian is a "minor character"? Marvin is lumped in with the whale as a character who makes "important appearances"? Important appearances? The reviewer doesn't even give his name? If the movie slashes his role that much, there is serious trouble.

    My Joo Janta peril-sensitive sunglasses are strangely opaque. I suspect this movie will suck, and will only do slightly better than if every theater showing it was blanketed in an SEP field.

    1. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by Golden_Eternity · · Score: 2, Interesting

      While I wouldn't consider Trillian a minor character, especially later in the series, she doesn't play a very big role in the first H2G2 book. Definitely nowhere near as big a role as Arthur, Ford, and Zaphod... Marvin isn't really a "major" character either, but he's... distinctive, so everyone remembers him and thinks of him as a big part of the book.

    2. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by kizzbizz · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but anything that can eliminate a Frogstar Scout Robot Class D (No, I didn't say A or B or C, I said D) armed with nothing seems pretty important to me.

    3. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by Tim+Browse · · Score: 1

      I'm mildly curious as to how a review in a national UK newspaper can be considered astroturf?

      I don't think that word means what you think it means ;-)

    4. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does Zaphod only have one head?

    5. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by heinousjay · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but that wasn't the first book.

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    6. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by coopex · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do you have any idea how much it'd cost to hire a two-headed actor. The salary would be big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it would be. I mean, you may think it's alot to pay Jim Carrey 20 million a movie, but that's just peanuts compared to paying a two-headed actor.

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    7. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by Jeremi · · Score: 1
      I'm sorry, Trillian is a "minor character"?


      I would say so... if you were to rank the characters in order of their importance to the plot, Trillian comes out around 5th... after Arthur, Ford, Marvin, and Zaphod. I haven't seen the movie so I can't judge it, but I don't think the books would have been damaged too badly if Trillian had been removed from them.


      I suspect this movie will suck, and will only do slightly better than if every theater showing it was blanketed in an SEP field.

      .... and yet you are doomed to go see it anyway, and bitch about it afterwards on Slashdot. Doomed I say! :^)

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    8. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by Indy+Media+Watch · · Score: 1

      a manic-depressive android

      Marvin wasn't bipolar, he was suicidal.

      Depressive, sure but Marvin expressed no manic characteristics whatsoever unless they changed his character to have excited moments.

      If so, it would be a shame. The voice of Alan Rickman playing a paranoid android was a great bit of casting. Anyone who has seen Galaxy Quest will know this.

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      Indy Media Watch-Proctologist of the Internet

    9. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by dlelash · · Score: 1

      Umm, Trillian's not a minor character? Without knowing for sure how much of the story they cover in the film, surely she's less prominent than Arthur, Ford, Zaphod, Marvin, the Guide, and probably Slartibartfast, at least before they beef up the Arthur-Trillian romance angle. Exactly how many other characters with more than one or two lines are there?

    10. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by UserGoogol · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, and he's not really paranoid either. People don't really know what words mean.

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    11. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Trillian is a minor character. She mostly hangs around with Zaphod and pouts. Hell, she just plain leaves at the end of Resturant and you don't hear anything from her until Mostly Harmless where she has become a slightly different-dimension Trillian and only important to the plot because she has a daughter. Trillian could have been dispensed from the entire story and not made an impact. You'd only lose the "Party at Islington" joke, which isn't all that funny either.

    12. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by Ian+Jefferies · · Score: 1

      The article was in the dead tree edition a few days ago. It isn't a review by the film critic team on the Telegraph and it reads more like a story of "how the film came to be made".

      At least we get to argue about for a long time, slagging each other off in the press. Quite the gravy train.

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    13. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She mostly hangs around with Zaphod and pouts. Hell, she just plain leaves at the end of Resturant and you don't hear anything from her until Mostly Harmless

      Crap. Life the Universe and Everything is the book she has the biggest role in.

    14. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

      Trillian is a minor character until Life, the Universe, and Everything. She doesn't get a great deal of screentime before her chance to smash the Krikkit war machine and to bring peace to the galaxy.

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    15. Re:I wish I could believe him, but... by StormKrow · · Score: 1

      well his paranoia was a bit more subtle.

      Instead of overt paranoia, his paranoia was with the looming obsession that the world was out to take him for granted due to his automaton status. (...and ironicly, he put himself in situations where that happened, further re-enforcing that idea). ....brain the size of a planet and he's a valet. I can relate.

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  15. Just say NO!!! by DmitryProletariat · · Score: 1, Funny

    Drugs are yet another way for the capitalist pigs to suck you dry of your precious fluids; to make bourgeois French perfume. King Loius XVI said it best, "It's good to be the King!" Therefore, be your own king. Resist the capitalists, join our worker paradise, and just say NO!!!

  16. I just don't understand by Nate53085 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Has it gotten to the point where we don't even watch a movie to figure out if we like it? How often are critics wrong? Watch the movie for yourself and make up your own mind.

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    1. Re:I just don't understand by GeorgeMcBay · · Score: 4, Insightful


      Has it gotten to the point where we don't even watch a movie to figure out if we like it?


      Considering the rather high cost of movie tickets these days (~$10 in many areas of the US), I can understand why people like to hear what others are saying about a film before plunking down their hard-earned cash.


      How often are critics wrong?


      Fairly often, but I find looking to places like rottentomatoes helps because it is rare that all the critics will be wrong about all the movies. Taking a wide sample of critics' views on a movie really seems to weed out the occasional critic who just "didn't get it" or was too far removed from the intended audience.

      Of course, the best reviews are always from people we know with similar tastes in movies, so those are preferred, but not always available...

    2. Re:I just don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watch the movie for yourself and make up your own mind.

      This would result in crap films with good marketing getting lots of money, while good films with crap marketing getting no money. Consequently, the film industry, as an entity striving to make money, would pay less attention to the quality of the film, and more attention to the marketing of the film.

      In short, your suggestion is an extremely consise summary of everything that is wrong with the film industry.

    3. Re:I just don't understand by assassinator42 · · Score: 1

      Do most theaters have the $5.50 for a matinee ticket? (If you go see it before 6 PM) The one I go to does, so I pretty much only watch movies before 6. Anyway, I'll probably go see this movie.

    4. Re:I just don't understand by Nate53085 · · Score: 1

      This would result in crap films with good marketing getting lots of money, while good films with crap marketing getting no money. Consequently, the film industry, as an entity striving to make money, would pay less attention to the quality of the film, and more attention to the marketing of the film. But, in regards to that, if we only see movies that critics enjoy then what stops the movie industry from just trying to appeal to critics, or pay people to look like critics? I think its interesting that you say that people making descisions for themselves is whats wrong with the movie industry. If you go see a movie you don't like, but it does well anyway, so what? You just don't go see the other 9million films that are similar because you know they are made by the same people, same premise, same hype and you already proved you didn't like it.

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    5. Re:I just don't understand by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Funny

      Cinema Mgr: Why should I refund your money? Are you going to un-watch the movie?

      Moviegoer: <pained> If you can tell me how to do that, you can keep the 12 bucks...

    6. Re:I just don't understand by Jeremi · · Score: 1
      Do most theaters have the $5.50 for a matinee ticket? (If you go see it before 6 PM)


      Not around here (Los Angeles) ... the matinee price is $6.50-7.50, and it's only available for the first showing of the day (i.e. around noon). Regular price is $8.50-$10, and a few "high end" theaters charge $14 (although at those you get reserved seating and an employee comes out before the movie starts to give a little welcoming speech... whether that is worth an extra $5 I won't comment on)

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    7. Re:I just don't understand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That's fine if I can get a refund if it doesn't live up to expectations or in terms of sale of goods or services fails to satisfy the various consumer protection implied terms

      But you know what, if I pay my money and it is crap I've lost my money and a couple of hours of my life.

      So my approach is to not bother because the critics I vaguely accept the opinions of have slammed it; but I keep an open mind in case certain friends who do bother to see it come back saying "yes it's good". Or in some cases as I know their tastes I don't bother seeing it because they said "yes it's good".

      Life's too short to see every film and read every book (etc...) that is produced in order to suck our hard earned cash from us.

  17. Re:Some Clips from the movie by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

    Great, now there's a smoking hole where Maxim's web server used to be. Anybody manage to snag a copy of the video? :)

  18. Quit mixing metaphors badly by Quirk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Marshall McLuhan's message: ""The Medium is the Message" is now about 4 decades old. McLuhan is thought by many to be one of the fathers of the age of technology yet posters on /. seem unable to distinguish between two mediums/metaphors as visibly distinguishable as film and book. The experiences are distinctly different enjoy each according to its merits. If you can't distinguish between two diverse experinces perhaps you're too egocentic and tribal, read primitive.

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    1. Re:Quit mixing metaphors badly by TintinX · · Score: 0

      This might be a coherent comment if you had the ability to punctuate.

    2. Re:Quit mixing metaphors badly by screwballicus · · Score: 5, Funny


      We are, after all, discussing a movie review published on the website of a newspaper called the Telegraph .

      I don't know about you, but my head's spinning.

    3. Re:Quit mixing metaphors badly by bernz · · Score: 1
      MAN IN LINE
      (Even louder now)
      It's the influence of television. Yeah, now Marshall McLuhan deals with it in terms of it being a-a high, uh, high intensity, you understand? A hot medium ... as opposed to a ...

      ALVY
      (More and more aggravated)
      What I wouldn't give for a large sock o' horse manure.

      MAN IN LINE
      ... as opposed to a print ...

      Alvy steps forward, waving his hands in frustration, and stands facing the camera.


      ALVY (Sighing and addressing the audience)
      What do you do when you get stuck in a movie line with a guy like this behind you? I mean, it's just maddening!

      The man in line moves toward Alvy. Both address the audience now.

      MAN IN LINE
      Wait a minute, why can't I give my opinion? It's a free country!

      ALVY
      I mean, d- He can give you- Do you hafta give it so loud? I mean, aren't you ashamed to pontificate like that? And-and the funny part of it is, M-Marshall McLuhan, you don't know anything about Marshall McLuhan's...work!

      MAN IN LINE
      (Overlapping)
      Wait a minute! Really? Really? I happen to teach a class at Columbia called "TV Media and Culture"! So I think that my insights into Mr. McLuhan-well, have a great deal of validity.

      ALVY
      Oh, do yuh? Well, that's funny, because I happen to have Mr. McLuhan right here. So ... so, here, just let me-I mean, all right. Come over here ... a second.

      Alvy gestures to the camera which follows him and the man in line to the back of the crowded lobby. He moves over to a large stand-up movie poster and pulls Marshall McLuban from behind the poster.

      ALVY
      (To McLuban) Tell him.

      MCLUHAN
      (To the man in line)
      I hear-I heard what you were saying. You-you know nothing of my work. You mean my whole fallacy is wrong. How you ever got to teach a course in anything is totally amazing.

      ALVY
      Boy, if life were only like this!

      -Annie Hall

  19. Breaking news: Slashdot ad revenue bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    REUTERS:

    In financial news today expert industry anylists report that the once popular, geeky, tech news site slashdot.com's ad revenue is in sharp decline.

    Economists assert that Slashdots's new diet of endless lame news items about Google, municipal WIFI and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy are putting off hungry consumers who are going elsewhere.

    "I just can't take it anymore" said one long time Slashdot afficionado. "It's just Google, HitchHiker's, and WIFI"

    Experts predict that of the remaining 12.5 visitors slashdot gets daily, 98.3% use the adblock feature of the controversial "Firefox" browser.

    "It's a bleak situation"

    1. Re:Breaking news: Slashdot ad revenue bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but what does Netcraft have to say on the matter? ;)

      There is apparently no truth to rumors that the outage was caused by a "reverse Slashdot effect" driven by traffic from links on Roland Piquepaille's web site.

      -- Netcraft Confirms: Slashdot Dying

    2. Re:Breaking news: Slashdot ad revenue bust by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      Hey, at least Slashdot's fiction section still has plenty of MS entries to entertain!

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    3. Re:Breaking news: Slashdot ad revenue bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's Hitchhiker's Guide to the Freaking Galaxy! You don't think this is interesting to people here?

    4. Re:Breaking news: Slashdot ad revenue bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's gotta be fake. You didn't even mention Apple!

    5. Re:Breaking news: Slashdot ad revenue bust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Why dosen't Slashdot introduce some MS-Sucks, Apple-iBorg and Linux-will-take-over-the-whole-world-any-minute-no w threads for a change.

  20. Moviefone? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 1

    Moviefone? Don't tell me. Every article is written by Kramer, right?

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    1. Re:Moviefone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that wasn't funny, please never post again

    2. Re:Moviefone? by acebone · · Score: 0

      That wasn't funny - please never post again

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    3. Re:Moviefone? by Jeremi · · Score: 2, Funny
      Moviefone? Don't tell me. Every article is written by Kramer, right?


      Believe it or not, Moviefone was a happily operating business long before it was ever referenced on "Seinfeld"....

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  21. Thank god by RealBeanDip · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A positive review, now we can all go see the movie...

    Please, as if we weren't going to see it anyway.

    I've yet to find a movie critic with whom I agree with often enough to actually avoid a movie based on their review.

    See the damn movie, make up your own mind 'eh.

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    1. Re:Thank god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      A positive review, now we can all go see the movie...
      Personally, I download the film and watch the first ten minutes. If they are good, I go watch the movie.

      Bad Santa I saw twice. Should have been three times. :-)

      I really shouldn't tell anyone, though. The movie companies will put more resources into the beginning... :-)

    2. Re:Thank god by Geste · · Score: 1
      I've yet to find a movie critic with whom I agree with often enough to actually avoid a movie based on their review.
      I found him, but he died. Gene Siskel, you rocked. You still rock.
    3. Re:Thank god by TCQuad · · Score: 1

      I've yet to find a movie critic with whom I agree with often enough to actually avoid a movie based on their review.

      That brings up an interesting off-topic question. iRATE lets you rate music and, after some trial and error, you get music that the software's predicted you would like based on your ratings and ratings of people who like what you like. (Pretty close after a few iterations) Is there any similar rating system for movies? Unlike iRATE, which is limited to seemingly infinite amounts of free techno and limited amounts of high-quality music, it should be fairly easy for someone to program the same comparisons software using a movie database. Then, following the same train of thought, correlate your preferences to a critic (or the general population, for post opening night reviews) and get a decent estimation of what you'd like or loathe.

      Just a thought.

    4. Re:Thank god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ebert's pretty good himself.

    5. Re:Thank god by RexxFiend · · Score: 1

      There used to be such a site, it was called moviecritic and it was fantastic. It died.

      A quick search on the goog revealed that this might be a replacement but apparently it needs more users to get a decent database going.

      My fellow slashdotters, you know what to do...

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    6. Re:Thank god by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      Or you can see what the overall ratings its getting at IMDB, Yahoo! or Google from regular shmoes, and compare that with the pros. If the ratings are poor and you still go to see it, at least they will have pulled your expectations down, then you won't have to be disappointed at going in with hype-pumped expectations. Or you might even decide to wait and see it on video when it comes out, in order to punish the movie makers who did a poor job on the film in question (you can always buy it on DVD if you like it, and reward them later). Given the choice of overspending on movies I can barely afford (considering prices have doubled in 10 years), it takes a sure thing to get me to the theater anymore.

  22. Re:Some Clips from the movie by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny
    "Great, now there's a smoking hole where Maxim's web server

    If they can survive being linked when they had Morgan Webb photos, they can survive anything.

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  23. Re:Some Clips from the movie by anotherone · · Score: 1
    Loads fine for me. I find that slashbots tend to overestimate their own power... I don't think that the combined force of every slashdot user in the world could take out a website that isn't run on a DSL line from someone's mother's basement.

    (And if you have any idea what a flying whale has to do with anything, let us know. A guess even...)

    These guys are pretty retarded though, since they could easily find out what the sperm whale has to do with anything if they read the book- or, you know, listened to the narration of the clip.

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  24. erm.. by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

    If no one noticed yet the UK newspapers are doing loads of promos for this (One of the Sunday papers is offering the second book free). No one here is going to insult it, infact I think they'll all plug it majorly and we'll see some HHGG happy meals pretty soon.

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    1. Re:erm.. by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      we'll see some HHGG happy meals pretty soon

      Thank you for making a simple meal very happy.

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  25. Hitchin a ride by cobravenum2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Hitchhikers Guide to the galaxy is not a book that was adored and loved by all. i know many people that hate it and dont understand why it is so popular. so it is to be expected that some people would like the movie more than others. I personaly am a big fan of hitchhikers and hope that there is enough positive support for them to continue the series with more movies

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  26. I will explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The point is to not pay for bad movies. If you go to a movie such as this, and it turns out to be bad, well now you know it stinks but they have your $9 now so what do they care?
    This is why so many bad movies get churned out over and over again. If you continue to front the cash for them then it's basically the same as saying "shove anything in my face hollywood, because I never learn and I'll continue to pay for whatever trash you deem worthy entertainment" (in my opinion).
    So most people rely on movie reviews to make sure their dollars go to supporting entertainment they want to support.

    1. Re:I will explain by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "The point is to not pay for bad movies."

      What really hacks me off is that they should have a refund policy in place. Heck, even a %50 return on your tickets if you didn't like the movie would be sufficient.

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    2. Re:I will explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're trying to explain this to people who eat at MacDonalds, then go and eat there again. It's no use.

    3. Re:I will explain by Nate53085 · · Score: 1

      But then what are you doing but making sure that the people who review movies make you go see the movies they want to go see? We know that many critics are biased, so by listening to them aren't you also continuing to help churn out bad movies, but simply only the bad movies that based critics want you to see?

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    4. Re:I will explain by winwar · · Score: 1

      I hate to break it to you, but even I would be sorely tempted to ask for a refund if it were freely available (if I didn't REALLY like the movie-which means I disliked the movie in part). Therefore, they would lose their shirt and not learn a whole lot.

      I think if the movie was really bad, you should have no problem getting your money back or at least a free pass. Especially if you don't stay for the whole thing...

    5. Re:I will explain by 16K+Ram+Pack · · Score: 1
      It's why there is so much of a blitz on the openings of movies now.

      Years ago, a movie would open in a few theatres and then as popularity grew, it would spread through word of mouth.

      For a lot of movies now, there is a massive opening, and then the thing dies quite quick after. But, they've sometimes made enough from that.

  27. Not really a review by thomasoa · · Score: 1

    This is a typical studio puff piece. I hope the movie is good, but this article is not close to raising my expectations.

  28. The Real Question by kizzbizz · · Score: 4, Funny
    How many reviews must a man read before he knows the Ultimate Answer to whether this movie is good?

    42.

    1. Re:The Real Question by Aerion · · Score: 1

      Well, the universe is still here, so that's clearly not the right question.

    2. Re:The Real Question by michaeldot · · Score: 1
      Well, the universe is still here, so that's clearly not the right question.

      No, the universe has been replaced by one that's even more inexplicable.

      At least, I think that's the reason so many people use Windows!

    3. Re:The Real Question by MartinB · · Score: 4, Funny

      The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind; the answer is blowing in the wind.

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  29. Horses for courses by TintinX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's face it - whoever made this movie, whoever produced it, whoever starred in it - it was always, *always* going to be either loved or hated. Such is the sentiment and legacy towards DNA.
    As is made clear in just about every item one reads about Douglas (including TFA), he saw each incarnation of H2G2 as a different entity in its own right and felt no compunction to translate perfectly between mediums.
    The sad fact is that Douglas is dead. So we can either have no movie ever, or hand it over to someone else. The latter was always the best idea, IMO. Let's stop whining and celebrate the fact that the geek's favourite book has finally made it to film. Films are practically never as good as the books they follow (one or two exceptions like 2001 and, for me, Fear & Loathing (thanks to Johnny Depp, but I digress) spring to mind). H2G2 is the best example of this as it fires the imagination like nothing else.
    I, for one, am all too happy to see both negative and positive reviews.
    It's indifference I don't like.

    1. Re:Horses for courses by UncleFluffy · · Score: 1

      Films are practically never as good as the books they follow (one or two exceptions like 2001

      In that particular case, the book followed the film.

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    2. Re:Horses for courses by Teancum · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In the case of 2001, Arthur C. Clarke was heavily involved with the writing of the script, and the book was always something that was to be done indepently.

      That, and Mr. Clarke (like DNA) were already well established book authors before the movies were in production.

      This movie did at least have a rough draft of a script from DNA, which at least gave some directions as to where he wanted this project to go. The thing that I have been most impressed with DNA was that he totally understood the concept that the medium changes the message, and that each adaptation to a new medium can substantially change the product.

      I hope that when (not if....this is also something inevitable due to the fact that the movie is being produced and soon to be released by a major Hollywood studio) the DVD version of this movie comes out that it does not become a lame MPEG copy of the movie with a bunch of boring stuff thrown on as "extras". I think DNA would have relished the DVD medium as something entirely different and worthy of its own interpretation of the Hitchhiker story. I don't think that will happen, however.

    3. Re:Horses for courses by TintinX · · Score: 1

      Good point, well made.
      You are, of course, correct. I shouldn't have use chronology. What I meant was that films are rarely as good as their book versions.

    4. Re:Horses for courses by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

      What I meant was that films are rarely as good as their book versions.

      In almost every instance when a book follows a movie, it is much worse.

    5. Re:Horses for courses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This movie did at least have a rough draft of a script from DNA, which at least gave some directions as to where he wanted this project to go.

      Although it's not a good sign that they waited until after he died to start making it.

    6. Re:Horses for courses by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      Films are practically never as good as the books they follow (one or two exceptions like 2001)

      Except the 2001 novel was written by Clarke and Kubrick to get the basic plot down on paper before they started making the movie. The film wasn't an adaptation of the novel.

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    7. Re:Horses for courses by Mark+Hood · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I hope that when [...] the DVD version of this movie comes out that it does not become a lame MPEG copy of the movie with a bunch of boring stuff thrown on as "extras".

      Unlikely, because it has to live up to the BBC DVD of the TV series... (Which Amazon seems to think is not out yet, but I've had it over a year).

      Special features include:
      • Making Of
      • Extra Footage
      • Peter Jones Intro
      • Original Trailer
      • Communicate
      • Behind The Scenes
      • Animatronics Feature
      • Pebble Mill Appearance By Rod Lord And Alan J Bell
      • Production Notes
      • Out Takes
      • Photo Gallery
      • Easter Eggs

      So you get lots of information about the making of the radio series, a 'retrospective' documentary with some of the actors in character, information about how the effects were done, and much much more.

      Oh, and the slightly naff BBC TV series, which people inexplicably didn't watch :)

      Mark
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    8. Re:Horses for courses by mink · · Score: 1

      If you read what Clark said about it, both were being done at the same time.

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  30. Definitately going to see it by Spacejock · · Score: 1

    I write books in the comic SF genre, so you'd better believe I want to see a good film made out of one. My expectations weren't high, especially as I have such fond memories of the TV series. Sounds like they exceeded them.

    Anyway, Alan Rickman as the voice of Marvin will be worth the admission price alone.

  31. DNA's life mirror the stories in his books by Teancum · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just reading about how this movie was made would make me think that a "making of..." documentary about this movie would be almost as entertaining as the movie itself.

    In short, DNA could very likely be a character in his own book. Or conversely, his own life was so bizzare that in many ways the books (not just the Hitchhiker trilogy) mirror his own life. The more I read about DNA's life experiences, the more facinating I find him to be.

    I found this bit to be almost priceless from the Telegraph story: (to pharaphrase) The producers of this movie are "two men working from a barge named Polly, moored on the Regent's Canal in an unfashionable part of Islington, north London."

    I don't think DNA could have done better for a new book opening scene.

    1. Re:DNA's life mirror the stories in his books by floorten · · Score: 1

      Where have you read about DNA's life? This interests me. Does he have a biography out?

    2. Re:DNA's life mirror the stories in his books by Jeremi · · Score: 1
      Where have you read about DNA's life? This interests me. Does he have a biography out?


      Not just one, but several.

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    3. Re:DNA's life mirror the stories in his books by Teancum · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One of the "cool" bits of DNA lore include his slashdot interview This is an absolutely priceless bit of history for /. itself, and goes on to show what typical interviews of DNA were like.

      If you can get ahold of the radio scripts (compiled into book form), there is also a bit of an autobiography of DNA included in them, as well as some biographical information that is floating around on various web sites. h2g2.com also has some information about DNA as well. As has been pointed out, there are also several biographies of this man's life available on Amazon.

  32. Simple explanation by datajack · · Score: 3, Funny

    [blockquote]the film is every bit as much a loving tribute to Douglas Adams as it is a joyous comedy.[/blockquote]

    so, it's as funny as a funeral and bears no resemblance to the book then?

    1. Re:Simple explanation by Guido+von+Guido · · Score: 1

      Funerals in my family are fucking hilarious, and don't you forget it. Albeit usually in an absurdist sort of way.

  33. Fortysecond Post! by gooman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Nevermind.

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  34. OT - Re:Horses for courses by DarthWiggle · · Score: 1

    Was Fear and Loathing good? I still haven't seen it, but my 69-year-old father, of all people, told me it was awesome.. he said Johnny Depp is single-handedly saving cinema..

    He is a bright light, but every time I see him, I think "21 Jump Street"... (and, in another OT note, I didn't know Depp was in "Platoon".. thanks IMDB)

    1. Re:OT - Re:Horses for courses by Threni · · Score: 1

      > Was Fear and Loathing good?

      I bought it on video for £3 or something like that. Thomson is in it, as are a few other amusing people (the big guy from Penn and Teller). It's worth watching, especially perhaps in a similar mental state to that portrayed in the movie.

  35. I hate broccoli by robotsrule · · Score: 1

    I'll go for the special effects. That way if it it's bad, and my friends make fun of me, I can say I went to see it for the special effects. If the special effects are bad, I'll tell my friends that I went to see it because of them and that it's their fault. -- ro

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  36. Tom Bombadil! by Brandybuck · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not going to see the movie. They replaced Tom Bombadil with some stupid robot, and I hear Trillian is going to be fighting at Helm's Deep. Isn't anything sacred anymore?

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    1. Re:Tom Bombadil! by geekwench · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points right now, you'd get them on a silver platter. This is one the funniest thing I've read all day.

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  37. Question by JJ · · Score: 1

    So do you trust everything you see in print? I'm not dissing the Telegraph per se, just print media in general. Nothing like trusting the BBC in toto.

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    1. Re:Question by Etcetera · · Score: 1


      No, but I trust the Telegraph a lot more than I'd trust, say, the Guardian!

  38. If that's true... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Ghost in the Shell and Sincity weren't bad adaptations, and both held quite true to the spirit of the books."

    Ah, so what you're saying is the books suck too?

  39. One should be forewarned: by Headcase88 · · Score: 1

    "I've had every other favorite book of mine trashed - Lord of the Rings, Dune, I, Robot and a quintillion others."

    I, Robot does have a tendency to break up one's sentences. just like that .hack series on the PS2.

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  40. Holy crap nine dollars? by cbreaker · · Score: 1

    Unless you're a teenager, there's not too much you can do these days that's not at home and doesn't cost a lot more then that.

    Sure, $9 isn't exactly cheap but it's not like you have to save up for it or anything, and chances are you've all spent a lot more then $9 on dumb shit.

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    1. Re:Holy crap nine dollars? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1
      Unless you're a teenager, there's not too much you can do these days that's not at home and doesn't cost a lot more then that.
      Sounds to me like you have a serious lack of imagination. There are lots of things to be done that don't cost money -- or cost very little -- if you stray outside of the "sit-and-be-entertained" mindset.
      Sure, $9 isn't exactly cheap but it's not like you have to save up for it or anything,
      Spoken like a college kid who has never had to watch his money in his life.
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    2. Re:Holy crap nine dollars? by cbreaker · · Score: 1

      "Spoken like a college kid who has never had to watch his money in his life."

      I'm 26 years old, I went to a technical college that I finished 6 years ago, and I paid for it myself.

      If spending $9 on a movie before hearing three hundred reviews from strangers, spending more time researching whether or not to see it then the time it would take to actually see it makes me a sound spoiled, then I guess I'm guilty..

      "Sounds to me like you have a serious lack of imagination. There are lots of things to be done that don't cost money"

      Okay.. so, name some.

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  41. "Can anyone say LotR?" by Heisenbug · · Score: 4, Funny

    Uh, I dunno ... is that one of those glottal stop words? Here in this country we use vowels.

    "Lo-tor!"

    "Lot-rrr"

    "Lort!"

    I think I hurt my glottis *and* my epiglottis. It's definitely bed time.

    1. Re:"Can anyone say LotR?" by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      I think I hurt my glottis

      Poor Glottis.. all he ever wanted to do was drive. Poor, poor demon.

  42. Zaphod only has by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1 head!!!11

  43. Re:So does it suck, or not? [LoTR] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    To me, it just seemed more like Jackson than Tolkien. A lot has been changed, some quite important things, and some things for no apparent reason. For example, in the movie, when Gandalf enters the Shire with fireworks he lets some off for the children. In the book he just doesn't do that.

    I'm not a big fan of the books, but the movies just didn't quite seem to fit to me.

  44. Obligatory question by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    Were they paid for the review?

    I recall watching in 60 minutes this old man saying how certain reviewers were invited to buffettes and such so they would give favorable reviews of movies that frankly, sucked.

    I'd like to know if this was the case, too.

  45. Re:Must Watch by thatnerdguy · · Score: 1

    Where do you meet these friends with whom you can discuss Hitchhiker's Guide without being laughed at? I need to find me some of those to go to the movie with.

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  46. Impossible to complete? by nothingHappens · · Score: 1, Redundant
    The article summarizing incarnatios of the book mentions the comutyer game, which I presume to refer to the Infocom text adventure... but states that it was "famously impossible to complete." I know this to be false, however... a friend of mine back in junior high (late 80s) actually completed the game and went so far as to repeat the feat, whilst sending the entire game to his printer in progress. I believe I still have said printout in a file cabinet somewhere.

    Anyone know if the game is still available somewhere? I'd love to play it again...

    1. Re:Impossible to complete? by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      Java Version, though you need a key. :)

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    2. Re:Impossible to complete? by cosmol · · Score: 1

      the key is that serial number displayed in the screenshot (if you weren't joking about that)

    3. Re:Impossible to complete? by Bambi+Dee · · Score: 1

      You can play the hhgg.z3 "story file" loaded by the java applet with any Z-Code interpreter, of which there are roughly five hundred.

      The BBC also has an illustrated Flash version.

    4. Re:Impossible to complete? by dbIII · · Score: 2, Interesting
      famously impossible to complete
      It's easy, just type in "I win" - a great sense of humour made it into the game. Even flaws like not being able to have empty containers were dealt with - your characters pockets have lint in them to get around that.
    5. Re:Impossible to complete? by MemoryDragon · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually it really was possible to complete (there are various walkthroughs floating the web, and the game is hosted also somewhere) it just had several problems: There were some mistakes you could make easily which never showed until the last third of the game. The game basically was unforgiving in that area by simply not giving any warning but letting you play further.

  47. Big difference between the last review by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1
    The other review also posted on slashdot tore the movie to pieces. So wich one is true?

    Well it depends of course on what you want the movie to be. LoTR is generally considered to be a good/okay adapation of the books yet some hardcore fans complain that important elements were left out or changed. Most book to movie adaptations do not go well. I robot and the sound of thunder have people who love the original book (or short story) version crying foul about the movie adapatation.

    What I am getting from the Telegraph review is that this reviewer is a lot less critical then the previous one. The Telegraph review seems to be glad there is a towel in the movie, never mind that it is never explained, any real fan surely doesn't need it to be explained once again, while the other reviewer wants the towel to be in the movie exactly as it was in the book/radioplay.

    You can look at the LoTR movies and be glad they didn't disney it by making the characters do a little dance number OR you can complain about elves at helmsdeep.

    It seems clear that this movie is not a carbon copy of the movie. They changed the story, or for that matter ADDED a storyline, removed classic bits of dialogue and added new bits. Yet they kept enough for you to regonize the original.

    Is it any good? Depends, it reminds me of the doom movie but slightly less of a mess. I just wish that someday we will get a movie adapatation where the movie people do not consider themselves better then the original author.

    For that is the fundamental problem here, wether it is LoTR, Doom or Hitchhiker Guide, all these movie makers seem to believe that they could improve on the original. Real fans of the original will be outraged by that.

    I haven't seen the guide yet but it looks from all the reviews so far that they did a real hollywood on it. Not that hollywood can't do comedy but the guide never was hollywood comedy.

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    1. Re:Big difference between the last review by nagora · · Score: 1
      You can look at the LoTR movies and be glad they didn't disney it by making the characters do a little dance number OR you can complain about elves at helmsdeep.

      OR complain that the director appears to have no ability in his chosen profession. Regardless of adaptation V original, the first film was just plain bad film making.

      As regards HHG, Marvin is worrying me. The TV Marvin wasn't what I was expecting but there was a certain irony in it. The film one just isn't funny or ironic.

      Like the books and the TV series, I doubt that the film will live up to the radio series, but I suppose I'll go and see it.

      TWW

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  48. Another positive review... by Jugalator · · Score: 1
    FilmFocus has already reviewed this movie...
    "I loved this film. It's faithful, irreverent, fun, funny and in no way the disrespectful waste of celluloid Adams fans had secretly been dreading."

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  49. Re: Film VS Book, just let it go already... by EvilCabbage · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I came out of the first Lord Of The Rings screening, I actually heard a pack of hardcore nerdlingers arguing over the way some of the characters sat down to eat and how it wasn't portrayed in the film.

    If you're that tied up that you cannot live with a story being adapted as best possible to suit the film media, please don't ever leave your house again. The rest of us cinema-goers don't want you there.

    The story may not follow the book to the letter, but can't you see a little beyond that and maybe judge it on its own merits? For fucks sake...

  50. Re:Some Clips from the movie by Minna+Kirai · · Score: 1

    These guys are pretty retarded though, since they could easily find out what the sperm whale has to do with anything if they read the book-

    That's what they want you to think- they've got an image to uphold.

    Maxim's popularity (and thus profit) is based on projecting an aura of exaggerated masculinity. Amoung other effects, that means they must eschew any nerd-like tendencies, such as remembering the plot or backstory to a sci-fi feature.

    Understand HGttG = nerd = no girls = no sales.

    Such writers can admit to watching something like Matrix or Star Wars only for spectacular stunts and explosions, not for admiring the fictional world or its techno-social implications.

  51. LOTR/H2G2 Deep Thoughts... by MsGeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    And let's not forget the gratuitous dwarf-tossing jokes in the first two films. Then again, the director of "Dead Alive" and "Meet The Feebles" not adding a little sophomoric humor to LOTR? Did you expect him to hold back? I didn't and wasn't offended.

    The beauty of the LOTR movies was that even though they were not faithful to the letter of the book, they were faithful to the spirit of the book. I was not disappointed.

    Of course, I would have rather seen Bjork as Arwen. She *looks* like an elf. She wouldn't have even had to play with a different accent...her Icelandic/British accent is pretty damn close to the way they did Elvish anyway.

    Also I would have rather heard what Jimmy Page would have done on the soundtrack instead of Howard Shore. I'm a child of the '70s. Reading LOTR with Led Zeppelin on the stereo has inescapably twisted my mind. He's done orchestral scores before...anyone remember the "Death Wish" movies? Yeah, I know, bad example.

    Of course, H2G2 has similar synaptic connections in my twisted mind. I still have an animated movie starring the voices of Eric Idle (Ford), Michael Palin (Arthur) and Bill Murray (Zaphod) in my mind, probably never to be erased by the actual movie. The deconstruction of the movie by DNA's biographer kinda had me worried, but I think I might just give this a chance.

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    1. Re:LOTR/H2G2 Deep Thoughts... by lahi · · Score: 1

      Funny you should mention Michael Palin. When I read HHGTTG, I always "see" Michael Palin as Arthur. If he were a bit younger he'd have been the perfect actor for the role IMO. I don't agree with Idle and Murray, though.

      -Lasse

  52. Java version from DNA's site by cosmol · · Score: 1
  53. "Don't Panic" - brand PDA by Cloudface · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I met a fella at a party in England once in the seventies. We peed in a field and argued over whether "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Milky Way" was a better title. He thought not... Said I was a telepathic bastard in fact, but that's water out back of the comet now. Point: All I want is a PDA with all the video and movies and radio cross-ref'd with the Texts, with the words "Don't Panic" on its cover. Counterpoint: After all this time, is that too much to ask of Western Civilization? Tesserapoint: Or, at least, of an anonymous yet literate electronics factory in Taiwan?

  54. Manic-depressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh sure, we all remember that scene where Marvin starts babbling incoherently about how his destiny lies in ruling the world.

    I think you're right. They tried to reword an official studio line, hence picking "synonyms" that have nothing to do with the characters.

  55. Fairy Cake is for... by uberdave · · Score: 1

    Fairy cake is for extrapolating the entirety of the universe, and then for eating, if you survive the Total Perspective Vortex and are still feeling a little peckish.

  56. Welll im quite suprised by the production quality by Nik+Picker · · Score: 1

    Since from the Article it appears it was made

    "Two blokes from down the road."

    Welcome to England. Please hand your dictionary in a t customs before leaving the terminal.

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  57. Re:The 'LotR' movies DID suck... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heheh! Pay the price! Badmouth Lord of the Rings and be modded to -1!

  58. Re:Must Watch by rkrabath · · Score: 1

    They're called "geeks"

    You can find them at your local tech company. They are kept in the backroom so no one sees them.

    I bet you could find a few on opening day, too!

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  59. Trillian a romantic interest? by Flyboy+Connor · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The review says Trillian will be a romantic interest of Arthur Dent. If anything, this convinces me they did something seriously wrong with the movie. A romantic interest is for heroes, or at least for guys with something going for them. Arthur Dent is a notorious failure, a complete nobody in the universe, and he is driven, at least in the first three books, mainly by a quest to find a decent cup of tea. Is he going to "save the girl" now? Shocking.

    1. Re:Trillian a romantic interest? by otherniceman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well she was, in a way. In H2G2 Arthur had been trying to chat Trillian up before Phil (AKA Zaphod) whisked her away from under his nose.

    2. Re:Trillian a romantic interest? by michaeldot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The review says Trillian will be a romantic interest of Arthur Dent. If anything, this convinces me they did something seriously wrong with the movie.

      Did you know they had a child together...?! (Fifth book)

      (Okay, if you know the scenario it wasn't in quite a romantic way, but there were actually cases of romantic heroism:)

      Arthur picked a fight with a Norse god (Thor) to get her back. (Third book)

      Arthur killed someone to protect her (Second radio series)

      There was also some past sexy business alluded to in the Fourth book... "Just what did Arthur and Trillian get up to in the wings."

      That was when discussing the all important question: does Arthur, in fact, fuck? (To which the answer was, "mind your own business.")

  60. Re:Welll im quite suprised by the production quali by Nexus+Seven · · Score: 1

    Since your post makes no grammatical sense, I assume you're trying to be ironic.

  61. Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It turns out the question of life, the universe, and everything is this:

    "If life, the universe, and everything were really just a movie, how many millions of dollars would it make the first weekend?"

    Answer: 42

    Sadly, Deep Thought and Deep Thought's successor were both unable to be reached for comment.

    1. Re:Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 3, Funny

      So the Earth will be destroyed five minutes before the box-office figures come in, then?

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  62. Butterfly Effect by Sark666 · · Score: 1

    It got a 34% rating on rot tomatoes. That's horrible. Butterfly effect is one of my most enjoyed movies of last year. Even Ashton is fine in the movie, and I wasn't sure if had a performance like this in him.

    I read that because of all the bad reviews he cancelled all of his appearances on letterman etc, and it's probably the reason he went right back to stupid comedies.

    I practically had to twist a good friends arm to rent this as he saw the rating rotten tomatoes gave this.

    But hey, it taught me a lesson, any time I'm interested in seeing a movie but not too sure if it would be good I think of this movie.

    What I trust more is imdb user rating which btw gave But. Effect 7.6/10 from 23,000 votes.
    Ya, you could argue that imdb votes are more likely people who liked the film, but I'll take that over a bunch of pretentious crtics any day.

    1. Re:Butterfly Effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Butterfly Effect was great, I didn't realise it was slammed by critics.

      Not sure if you'll like a movie? Watch it before you pay for it (i.e download) or at least have a little patience and hire it on DVD at a more reasonable price. $8 for the whole family beats $10 per person any time. If you like the movie, show your support by buying the DVD.

      I don't know why people keep going to movie theatres just to get raped on ticket prices when you can stay at home and miss the jerk kicking your seat or yapping on his cellphone, or the goddamn kid screaming with the parents who just sit there and LET HIM ruin the movie for everyone else. Is that worth the money you're spending? REALLY?

      I hear movie attendance is dropping, and it seems the theatre operators' solution to this problem is to unreasonably increase the ticket price. I don't know what problem they're trying to solve, but it isn't the "lack of customers" one. I eagerly await the day that movies are released directly in DVD or pure digital download formats.

  63. Re:Some Clips from the movie by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

    I don't know what kind of proxy you're sitting behind, but I assure you that maximonline.com stopped working for me shortly after this story went live. Still doesn't work, as a matter of fact. But maybe that's Comcast fucking up again.

  64. oh wow look at these comments by eexlebots · · Score: 2, Insightful

    OH NO THEY ARE RAPING DOUGLAS ADAMS' CORPSE111111 **** OK, if you say that but also say how good the BBC TV series was...well...jeeze, people. Just...jeeze.

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  65. UK and US changes in the book by burning_plastic · · Score: 2, Interesting


    I've noticed at least a few changes between the UK and US prints of the books.

    Examples include:

    UK : US

    Mindbuggering : Mindboggling - in description of the Vogon Fleet

    Fuck : Belgium - the most gratuitous use of the word **** in a serious screenplay

    Does anyone know of a full list of these changes? I'd be interested to know just how many alterations were made.

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    All Your Fish Are Belong To Us

    1. Re:UK and US changes in the book by gfreeman · · Score: 1

      Are you sure? My UK copies from the 80's have "Belgium" and "Mindboggling".

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  66. Books great. TV show sucked. Movie? TBD by billstewart · · Score: 1
    I absolutely loved the books. Our local PBS station has been replaying the TV show lately, and for the most part it sucked (sorry, but it did), perhaps because it simply doesn't look as good rendered on a small screen as it does rendered in the reader's imagination, but also because it was chopped up way too much. I've haven't heard much of the radio version, though I had the script and sometime I need to dig the box of the attic and find a 5.25" floppy drive to try the game again.

    We'll see if the movie does a better job in the limited time budget it has to work with.

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  67. Bring a Towel? by Headcase88 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hey, seriously, bringing a towel seems like a good idea. Except it only leads to 2 possibilities:

    1) I'm the only one who does it and look like a total dork
    2) Lots of people do it and I look like an unoriginal hack

    :(

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    1. Re:Bring a Towel? by sydb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      3) Lots of people do it and you all look like totally unoriginal hackish dorks.

      Don't take the towel. A packet of peanuts would be acceptable.

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    2. Re:Bring a Towel? by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      3) Disney took out the towel...

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  68. Re:Books great. TV show sucked. Movie? TBD by eibon · · Score: 5, Informative
    I need to dig the box of the attic and find a 5.25" floppy drive to try the game again.
    No, you don't
  69. Re:Must Watch by michaeldot · · Score: 1
    Where do you meet these friends with whom you can discuss Hitchhiker's Guide without being laughed at?

    Some geeks are friends with other geeks!

    (Though it always surprises that geeks have friends at all, given that most of us are meant to have Asperger's Syndrome. Gotta love stereotypes.)

  70. Re: Film VS Book, just let it go already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lord of the rings films were primarily made by fans. unfortunatly expecting that kind of zeal from the makers of hitchkhikers is never going oto happen.

    A pretty poor comparison, not to mention that it was the small aspects of the book that made it so funny in context.

    Damn got by troll bait, oh well...

  71. Re:Books great. TV show sucked. Movie? TBD by honkycat · · Score: 1
    IMO, the radio series is by far the best of the group. You can get it on CDs from Amazon.co.uk. Here's a link to the first series ("Primary Phase") and you can follow to the second series ("Secondary Phase") from there. They seem to have a Tertiary Phase now, too, but it's not part of the original radio stuff.

    Primary Phase

    By the way, there is a complete set available from amazon.com (the US version) but based on the reviews, the audio quality is not so great. I got the CDs from Amazon UK a few years ago (I am in the US) and they are great.

  72. From TFA... by Harker · · Score: 1
    Everyone concerned with the film has been careful to honour Adams's intentions - though some inspired guesswork has been necessary.


    This bit worries me more than anything else.

    Why on earth would anybody need to guess at ANYTHING related to this? I mean, the books have been around for years. If they wanted to know, all they had to do was read them.

    I'm not getting my hopes up for this to be true to the books.

    Nope, not going to do it.

    H.
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    1. Re:From TFA... by CashCarSTAR · · Score: 1

      Because one of the points of the whole story, is that the story is INTENDED to morph to fit the quirks and qualms of the particular media that it's being presented upon. A shot for shot remake would..well..to be honest it would A. Either suck or have to be 4 hours long, and B. Would completly violate the entire concept of the story to begin with. The movie, should be good. But what i'm really waiting for is the DVD, from what I'm hearing, the DVD is going to be the true experience.

    2. Re:From TFA... by Narchie+Troll · · Score: 1

      All incarnations of H2G2 have been unique. The radio show was different than the video game was different than the TV show, etc.

      "True to the book" isn't a prerequisite.

  73. time for our weekly update.... by rtphokie · · Score: 1

    I fully expect a report from Douglas Adams's butler's cousin's gardener. We mst know who approves and who doesn't approve of this movie.

  74. Re:Some Clips from the movie by op12 · · Score: 2, Funny

    You'd rush too if you were falling rapidly towards the ground :)

  75. I have a theory by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    about the difference between fantasy and conventional literature. It has to do about how they model psychology.

    The conventional literary complaint about fantasy is that it doesn't hany any model of psychology at all -- that characters are flat and have no internal life. Therefore fantasy is mere entertainment, and can't have any kind of relevance other than escapism.

    The key to understanding how this works, in my opinion, is that there is truly only one character in fantasy -- each character represent a different part of the reader, and as such have no internal structure. Psychological struggles are uncovered in fantasy and myth, by making the forces behind those struggles manifest, then playing out the results of each decision before our eyes, as it were. In the fairy tale, the impulse of pride is represented by the elder brothers who pass strange little man on the road and treat him with contempt, and the impulse of compassion is represented by the virtuous younger brother who stops and aid the little man, and in turn is aided. No more psychological machinery is required, this is perfect in itself. These are impulses which arise in ourselves and do battle on a daily basis; we don't know where they come from.

    Very few fantasy works have the scope to demonstrate this fully, but LotR does. Every signficant character has his opposite: Gandalf/Sarauman, Theoden/Denethor, and Frodo/Gollum. Boromir is paird both with Faramier and Aragorn, who are in many ways the same character. So I would disagree that characterization is a weakness for Tolkien. He just uses what for literary critics are unfamiliar devices.

    In any case, the reason the movie Faramir character was so unsuccessful is that he clearly doesn't belong here. The script writers had a major task in converting a mythological book into the dramatic medium. This involved a great deal of difficult compromise, and by in large they were sucessful by giving the archetypal characters dramatic shadings, if you will. They succeeded for the most part in keeping their drama instincts in check. Faramir is the one instance where they felt free to completely recast a Tolkien character to fit more of a theatrical/conventional literary mold. Probably the only one they dared to, as he is relatively minor. It isn't that one is ill-inclined to this character, he's just a melodramatic fish out of water..

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  76. Consistency by gidds · · Score: 1
    he saw each incarnation of H2G2 as a different entity in its own right and felt no compunction to translate perfectly between mediums.

    Yes -- and no.

    It's true that the different versions showed different events; they had different chronologies and plotlines; they introduced new characters and situations; they used different devices and features of each medium.

    But they were largely consistent. Where characters appeared in different versions, they behaved in the same sorts of ways, had the same manner of speaking and the same outlook on life. Where situations were copied, they generally went the same way, with very similar dialogue, setting, and outcome.

    And even more important than this is consistency of tone. Each version has the same slightly twisted, cynical, alienated [sic] outlook on life. Each displays a certain intelligence, a fascination with wordplay and a tendency to go off at tangents. Each has characters being caught up in bizarre events beyond their control, with The Guide as a smug but knowledgeable companion. Each has an undefineable but quintessential English sensibility.

    It was these things that bound all the different versions together. They may not all have mentioned towels, Disaster Area or junk mail, but they were undeniably different aspects of the same entity, whether you listened to them, watched them, read them, dried yourself off with them, or typed at them in increasing frustration.

    So while the movie will undoubtedly be different from all the other version, it should also be the same on some fundamental level. I've avoided seeing the trailer and the more revealing reviews, but the feeling I get from all that I've heard is that, while the movie may feature the same names and events as the others, and while DNA may have been involved in some way as a writer, it doesn't feel like Hitch-Hiker's. And that, more than any inclusion or exclusion of favourite events or lines, is what will depress me most.

    I'd be very happy to be proved wrong. But I'm not optimistic.

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  77. There are people who liked Butterfly Effect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    wth?

    Dude...the decisions Ashton's character made each time he went back in time were so frigging idiotic that the only way you can explain them is that it was one of his stupid comedies. Everything he did was designed to get a cheap laugh later.

    The movie actually had the potential for being good if the writers had been smart enough to have the main character make choices that made freaking sense when he went back in time, only to realize that it caused what initially appeared to be completely unrelated consequences later on which could be traced back to his decision later in a not-so-obvious way.

  78. Re:Some Clips from the movie by UWC · · Score: 1

    Especially when you have to first figure out toward what you are rapidly falling.

  79. Play it on O2 Mobile by GuyErnest · · Score: 1

    I heard that you are going to have an online WAP version of the game for mobile phones before the game goes live. I think that it is going to be great fun to play it again.

    10 first turns are free, direct your mobile phones to: http://h2g2.t-mp2.com/Game

  80. No by TrekkieGod · · Score: 1
    posters on /. seem unable to distinguish between two mediums/metaphors as visibly distinguishable as film and book. The experiences are distinctly different enjoy each according to its merits.

    You and every other slashdot poster that keeps giving this excuse for when movies based on books look nothing like the book need to realize one thing: if you're going to make a different story, don't claim it's a movie version of the book.

    Understandably, most of the time the movie can't be exactly like the book. More attention need to be paid to the visuals, the visuals represent the director's view of the images in the book so they might not match yours, there are time limitations, etc. So you get lord of the rings. There are a few changes, a few characters have been left out, but it does follow the books closely enough.

    Now, people may complain about the absence of Tom Bombadil all they want, but I haven't met a lotr novel fan that doesn't like the movies. So what we're afraid of isn't that the movie won't be exactly like the book. We're afraid of bastardizations like "The Count of Monte Cristo". The very moral of the story in the book was replaced by a hollywood happy ending...what happened there?

    This deviation from expectations has nothing to do with the medium. It has to do with the idea we formed of the universe, and it can't, I repeat...can't be violated. A few facts and experiences may be changed, but you can't change them if they will change the very message they're intended to convey. You don't have to change mediums to see that happen, all you need to do is look at Star Wars. When Lucas made Greedo shoot first, Han Solo went from the badass scoundral we all pictured him as to an incredibly lucky individual who managed not to get shot from across a frigging small table.

    Changes are inevitable. Changes in the very nature of the story are inexcusable, and I don't care that DNA himself believed that there should be a different story for every medium. I'm the one that's going to see the movie, and if it doesn't match my expectations for that story, I won't enjoy th movie. In the end, all that matters to *me* is that *I* enjoy the movie regardless of whatever you, Lucas, Adams, or McLuhan tells me I'm supposed to like.

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  81. Poppycock, my good lad by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

    Slashdot's not dying until Netcraft reports Slashdot is dying.

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  82. Re:Some Clips from the movie by Threni · · Score: 2, Funny

    > Such writers can admit to watching something like Matrix or Star Wars only for
    > spectacular stunts and explosions, not for admiring the fictional world or its
    > techno-social implications.

    So it's not just me who sits up half the night wondering just what the government would do were it to discover that the world is actually a computer program run by killer robots from the future? Girls just don't understand this sort of problem.

  83. Appreciate it for what it is by inkablot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Hitchhikker's Guide has always been a multi-format story, all incarnations of which differ from each other in very unique ways. First came the radio show, then the print trilogy, then the BBC TV Series, then the fourth book, then the Infocom game, and finally the last book. I enjoy all of the formats, and I'd be bored with the series by now if all of these were direct adaptations. I think judging this movie (particularly before you have seen it) is completely against the spirit of the series. The main reason I'll go see it is for the casting. I love Martin Freeman, and I love Mos Def. I've been re-reading the books, and I can already picture these two in the roles. And to those who expect the film to be bad: see it, but don't forget your towel.

  84. Re:Books great. TV show sucked. Movie? TBD by StormKrow · · Score: 1

    oh yeah.....I forgot about that one... (I always forget to grab the towel out of the house and the bit of lint from my pocket, and that thing with the string that my aunt gave me, but I don't know what it was. "What do you get when you multiplyy 6 by 9?" "42" "I always thought there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe."

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  85. They are not HHGG fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the review, it is evident that the director never read HHGG before the script landed his head. He read the script, liked it, and then decided to direct the movie.

    How many HHGG fans would even pause to pull that rabbit bone out of their beard before agreeing to do the movie?

    The movie was directed and produced by people who weren't HHGG fans in the first place - they never appreciated it the way you and I did. So they have no compunction in scything through the work of Adams.

    I am gonna keep an open mind, and just watch the movie.

    But it rankles that "surrealism" was left out...

  86. Re:Welll im quite suprised by the production quali by red5 · · Score: 1

    The full quote is:
    "It's funny. He'd gone all the way to California to get this film made. And it ended up being made by two blokes from down the road."

    In England instead of saying dude they say "bloke". Now I can see how at first glance it might seem they meant to say. "Two blocks down the road." I had to do a double-take myself.

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  87. Re: Film VS Book, just let it go already... by Atnevon · · Score: 1

    Just as a note, for all those that want to complain about the movie being different from the books: The *books* aren't even the original work in this case, so get over it. Adams was doing the radio series long before the books ever came out.