Last I checked, only politicians could change orientation without physically moving. .. No, politicians are the only ones who can appear to have their nose to the grindstone while straddling the fence and keeping both ears to the ground.
It's going to cost nearly as much money to deploy this, perhaps a lot more (factor in server cost, and perhaps some network upgrades, along with the client itself). Your workforce will be terribly unhappy (latency, inability to use a REAL bloody computer), your support staff will have just as much to do trying to coax 99.999% uptime out of your servers/network, and there is a long history of implementations like these that were quickly reversed.
If you (or your PHB) *really* must do this. Roll it out to one department or a "test" group of 5-10% of your userbase. You'll quickly realize troubleshooting your network/servers takes nearly as much time as troubleshooting PC problems, and when it goes down (and it will go down) you can watch that 5-10% play card games for two hours while you run around like a madman in an attempt to fix it. All while their manager is screaming in your bloody ear about a deadline or some such. Heck if you want to squash it even faster, roll it out to upper-management first as your "test" base (latest and greatest guys, it was all Bob's idea too, I can't take ANY credit...). It will be quickly rejected (and the original proponent possibly looking for work..) If you're really against the idea, you could even cause the network errors yourself (not too many, don't want YOU to look incompetent).:)
There can be cost savings with an approach like this, after the roll-out phase. As well as manageability of software updates, new software etc. However most people who tried this switched back (at an even greater cost) because of the aforementioned (and other) issues. There are only a few situations where implementations like this make *any* sense, and I suspect you're not in one of them.
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"Original population"??
You do realize they migrated there like everyone else, they just did it before "the white man" found it, killed everything in sight, and took over.
I do realize that most of Europe's colinization of "the new world" was brutal, but they are no more "original" to their land than "the white man" was to Europe. We all came from the same place at some point in history.
IIRC Didn't B fail (intentionally) and not wind up with A and C.. I.E. A and C made a spectacular planet somewhere else however B crash landed on earth?
Or wait, maybe it was that B launched first (hence was the only one launched..)
Hmm, I need to re-read the "trilogy".
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Well I may have an answer to your question:
The odds of life forming on earth in the short time period that it did (400-600 million years or so) are astronomically small. Infinitesimally. (Not that I'm a creationist..)
Perhaps instead of embryos they used something even simpler... Which would explain some things about how life formed on earth.
Heck one could even surmise that because they couldn't "teach" life that simple, it was selected because it could eventually evolve to become like them; however that could easily *not* be us. For an even bigger stretch, what if it is "us", and part of the 'code' was an inherent desire to return to space. Seeking out our progenitor's.... (Or to do as you suggest and repeat the process..)
Quick comment on your sig. Might want to change it slightly.
We only RE-elected him once. He was ELECTED twice.. (Well technically one could argue we didn't elect him either time, what with the florida and ohio scandals, but that is neither here nor there..)
The fact that you're changing the question doesn't matter either..
No one ever said people WANT to (re)install an operating system, he said people would rather do that than spend time in the terminal trying to FIX their OS. That I'm arguing is true. Hell above and beyond that, COMPANIES would rather you do it too. Have you ever been an average user calling tech support? One of the first things they tell you is to reinstall windows when you have a problem. Hell people are used to it.
They aren't used to the DOS prompt/Terminal.. Most of them don't know it exists, if they do it is vague recollections from the DOS era, or watching some ELSE during the DOS era, and that only terrifies them further.
I like your style of argument . DIsmiss intelligent points and change the question so that you seem correct. Unfortunately for you I've dated women and know how that crap works.:)
I'll back him up with anecdotal evidence. I worked tech support (ewww) for an ISP. Troubleshooting DSL connections often involved stints in the terminal. Almost no one I spoke with knew what the hell was going on or what we were doing. People were actually less afraid of regedit, AFTER I explained that one misstep could bork their install (didn't get in there often, but there were times...). To geeks ping and ip(if)config are afterthoughts, most people don't even know what an IP address is..
People like pointy-clicky graphical things. It's where the technology has taken them anyway. Ever more graphical installers, autorun, etc. I generally refuse to listen to statements about "the average computing public" from anyone who hasn't worked in technical support, because they don't know what the hell they are talking about. Yes we speak to the lowest levels (like the lady who thought 'double-clicking' was both buttons simultaneously) but we also speak to the average, and even the geeky. You quickly learn how to differentiate between them, it's the only path to sanity and survival.
Slashdot is awash with people proclaiming "It's linux's time!!" They need to step into the real world. I've run a couple linux distro's over the years, I got sick of messing with NDISwrapper to get my wireless card working. I currently run OS X on my Dell laptop, yeah not everything works (bloody sigmatel sound card..), but I don't mind because it's OSX, ON A DELL! It isn't supposed to. If Linux is going to claim it's for a PC it needs to "just work(tm)" or come very close to it. Installing drivers on a PC is barely required anymore, and it's usually an autorun CD that comes with the product. How often does the average computing public have to go into regedit or cmd to make something work? As close to never as you can get. On linux you're into config files and terminal just to get it to boot sometimes:) And don't get me started on the forums, I've seen plenty of them where if you didn't know, you were an idiot or a troll and were cast away.. Imagine how the truly "average" person would feel, if they could even find their way there (which they couldn't, allow me to mention the study from recently about Yahoo being the most "googled" thing, and vice versa..)
Hell, I've had to reinstall windows on my laptop several times recently due to HD problems, it's really bloody simple.. Boot the CD, tell it to install, choose your partition (most people don't need to, having only one) accept the EULA and it does the rest. *I* would rather do that then mess with NDISwrapper, and I have no fear of the terminal whatsoever. Think about it, Apple has had (mild) success with their "Switch, it's fucking easy" campaign. People LIKE easy. Linux can't even beat windows for simple yet (not reliability, simplicity), so it shall remain the OS of the geek until it can. Besides if it ever DOES get that simple, most of the geeks will be running something else by then (BSD anyone??:P)..
Wow, thank you. I never would have clicked on the link to see the full first picture if I hadn't read your post.. And yes, it looks very odd. I got a hearty laugh out of it, that's for sure.
Ahh man-rabbit copulation. Maybe that's how he gets 'em so big.:)
What's wrong with having sex with children? There are tribes in New Guinea where for a boy to become a man, he has to felate older members of the tribe and then swallow the semen to "give him strength." Apparently this begins as part of a long ritual between the ages of 6-10. What makes this ritual or system of belief less valid than say christianity? Is it less moral? (Google the Sambia tribe, or New Guinea and Rituals)
How strongly are you against murder? Are you against war? Abortion? Capital punishment? What if I killed someone who was trying to harm me or my family?
Morals are quite a wishy-washy issue once you get into it. What one person or group of people find abhorrent, others see no problem with. Now I believe certain rules are effective for civilization. Laws against murder, theft etc. Standards that if you put 100 average people in a room, at least 95 of them would agree upon. Morals (IMO) come from many sources. There are the basic moral standards (95/100 again..), morals you get from your parents, your religion, friends, etc. They aren't all equal and they aren't all correct. No one person has 'the' superior moral code.
I agree that larger society is not justified in enforcing his belief system. As I suspect that is where many of his morals are derived from. Yes I chose the chance to knock religion because in the U.S. religion has been a central theme in politics lately. For that matter it always has, however the "christian right" has certainly grown their power recently. However I believe that morals above and beyond the 95/100 rule tend to be personal choices. If you chose to be christian, you generally chose to believe a set of moral convictions. It might not be a conscious choice per-say, but that isn't the point.
Unfortunately selfishness in this country has grown to the point where people want to conform the world to them, and remove the things they do not like. Leave the room, change the channel, walk away. I don't like christian zealots from Kansas protesting at funerals, I don't approve of the KKK, but I wouldn't ever attempt to outlaw them. The freedom to do what you wish (again within the 95/100 rule), and say what you wish should be paramount. So like I said, if you don't like gay marriage don't be a part of one. If you are against abortion (and I'm not a big fan) don't have one. Don't legislate your personal tastes. When in doubt, it isn't a moral issue, it's a mind your own damn business issue. Stick to the basics and leave your Genie in the Sky out of it.
First of all, I get something to laugh at. Entertainment is good. And secondly people might actually start acting more civilized? GREAT! Shame SHOULD be a check on social behavior. If you're ashamed, that's your brain telling you that you're "actin' a fool" and you should probably correct the behavior.
If you're doing it in public, you either don't care, or you deserve to look like a jackass/moron. Not to mention I'd love to find out who's stealing my newspaper.
Exactly. I've got that arrangement right now actually. I'm decent in photoshop, but not stellar, and she's ok with HTML (well, dreamweaver, ewwww) but can't just sit and code in notepad (actually Smultron, if you're on a Mac, google it. It's OSS).
So she does the graphics and gives me an idea of the design, then I strip it down to nothing and rebuild it with CSS, HTML and PHP. I throw in a few ideas of my own, tweak the graphics sometimes, but basically I cement a layout and start writing PHP for the nifty bits. Good times, and it saves me the hassle of having all of my websites look like/.:)
Decent money split, although I still need to stop her from making small changes in Dreamweaver and mucking up my HTML and indentions..
That depends on what you consider religion. Actually no it doesn't, that's just made up bullshit. I'll go out on a limb and say that 99% of true "Christians" believe that there is one God and he had a son named Jesus who died for our sins. That is a pretty large common denominator. Since there are religions that believe in multiple gods, and apparently even one that believes in a great bowl of pasta (or whatever that joke is), I'm going to have to waive my bullshit flag.
From what I've seen of Al, he is at least of moderate intelligence. He scored a 1355 on his SAT's and his IQ is said to be 133-134 (link). No Einstein to be sure, but he did win a Presidential election, serve 8 years in the house, another 9 in the senate, and of course serve 8 years as the vice president.. Frosty here has active sperm, can write an e-mail, and he apparently married quite a patriot (RTFA).
But all of that is irrelevant anyway, because: HE DOESN'T FUCKING BELIEVE THE EARTH HAS ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR 14,000 YEARS!! So, yeah, Gore 1, Frosty 0.
Jesus, let the redneck keep his daughter out of class for a day, so the rest of the kids can get smarter, and she can grow up to let her husband think for her, just like her mom. (Again, RTFA.)
Umm, because if you look at the numbers 1) Teen pregnancy/STD rates are higher in the lower income classes of society. and 2) Teens are far less likely to buy them anyway. Why? BECAUSE THEY AREN'T EDUCATED ABOUT THEM!!!
Have your religion and feel free to it. I don't care WHAT you believe (unless you're a scientologist, that's just wacky shit) but keep it out of my Government, my Schools, and my LAWS.
We gave them Sunday (perhaps Saturday) to teach their kids all sorts of wacky crap, let the people with facts and science have Monday-Friday to teach children things that are REAL.
"Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher," said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who also said that he believes the Earth is 14,000 years old. "The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is... The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD."'" Because we should absolutely base the teaching of science on the objections of people who believe the earth is 14,000 years old. We're these people fucking drunk? Yes, global warming is a theory, a fairly convincing once what with ice shelves melting all over the place. Fine, teach it as a theory, but TEACH IT. "Frosty" perhaps could have used a few condoms to save his/her SEVEN children from being raised by a nutjob. Have your religion, feel free to it. Keep it out of my Government, my Schools, and my Laws. If you don't believe in Gay Marriage, don't marry one. If you think that stem cells are life, don't work with them. That is all a *personal* choice. Don't mandate into law what YOUR God doesn't like.
Also, condoms do belong in schools. Safe sex is important, and they're having sex anyway. Anyone who thinks differently is probably an idiot. 90% of Americans have pre-maritial sex (link) seems pretty damn important.
Oh, and I'm pretty sure Al Gore was a professor at Columbia for a time (visiting I know..) and that he's smarter than the idiot who seriously believes the earth is a few thousand years old.
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Too bad I didn't have mod points, otherwise you'd get:
+1 Not a bad idea.
-1 Might make things much, much worse.
So I suppose it all evens out..
Also because they consume the fewest amount of calories. :)
Haha.
Smart, funny, and respectable? Are you sure you're a lawyer?
If I'm ever in (yourtown) I'm going to have to buy you a beer.
No! NO NO NO NO NO!!!
:)
It's going to cost nearly as much money to deploy this, perhaps a lot more (factor in server cost, and perhaps some network upgrades, along with the client itself). Your workforce will be terribly unhappy (latency, inability to use a REAL bloody computer), your support staff will have just as much to do trying to coax 99.999% uptime out of your servers/network, and there is a long history of implementations like these that were quickly reversed.
If you (or your PHB) *really* must do this. Roll it out to one department or a "test" group of 5-10% of your userbase. You'll quickly realize troubleshooting your network/servers takes nearly as much time as troubleshooting PC problems, and when it goes down (and it will go down) you can watch that 5-10% play card games for two hours while you run around like a madman in an attempt to fix it. All while their manager is screaming in your bloody ear about a deadline or some such. Heck if you want to squash it even faster, roll it out to upper-management first as your "test" base (latest and greatest guys, it was all Bob's idea too, I can't take ANY credit...). It will be quickly rejected (and the original proponent possibly looking for work..) If you're really against the idea, you could even cause the network errors yourself (not too many, don't want YOU to look incompetent).
There can be cost savings with an approach like this, after the roll-out phase. As well as manageability of software updates, new software etc. However most people who tried this switched back (at an even greater cost) because of the aforementioned (and other) issues. There are only a few situations where implementations like this make *any* sense, and I suspect you're not in one of them.
"Original population"??
You do realize they migrated there like everyone else, they just did it before "the white man" found it, killed everything in sight, and took over.
I do realize that most of Europe's colinization of "the new world" was brutal, but they are no more "original" to their land than "the white man" was to Europe. We all came from the same place at some point in history.
IIRC Didn't B fail (intentionally) and not wind up with A and C.. I.E. A and C made a spectacular planet somewhere else however B crash landed on earth?
Or wait, maybe it was that B launched first (hence was the only one launched..)
Hmm, I need to re-read the "trilogy".
Well I may have an answer to your question:
The odds of life forming on earth in the short time period that it did (400-600 million years or so) are astronomically small. Infinitesimally. (Not that I'm a creationist..)
Perhaps instead of embryos they used something even simpler... Which would explain some things about how life formed on earth.
Heck one could even surmise that because they couldn't "teach" life that simple, it was selected because it could eventually evolve to become like them; however that could easily *not* be us. For an even bigger stretch, what if it is "us", and part of the 'code' was an inherent desire to return to space. Seeking out our progenitor's.... (Or to do as you suggest and repeat the process..)
Some food for thought anyway..
Quick comment on your sig. Might want to change it slightly.
:)
We only RE-elected him once. He was ELECTED twice.. (Well technically one could argue we didn't elect him either time, what with the florida and ohio scandals, but that is neither here nor there..)
Just trying to grammar nazi in a nice way
The fact that you're changing the question doesn't matter either..
:)
No one ever said people WANT to (re)install an operating system, he said people would rather do that than spend time in the terminal trying to FIX their OS. That I'm arguing is true. Hell above and beyond that, COMPANIES would rather you do it too. Have you ever been an average user calling tech support? One of the first things they tell you is to reinstall windows when you have a problem. Hell people are used to it.
They aren't used to the DOS prompt/Terminal.. Most of them don't know it exists, if they do it is vague recollections from the DOS era, or watching some ELSE during the DOS era, and that only terrifies them further.
I like your style of argument . DIsmiss intelligent points and change the question so that you seem correct. Unfortunately for you I've dated women and know how that crap works.
I'll back him up with anecdotal evidence. I worked tech support (ewww) for an ISP. Troubleshooting DSL connections often involved stints in the terminal. Almost no one I spoke with knew what the hell was going on or what we were doing. People were actually less afraid of regedit, AFTER I explained that one misstep could bork their install (didn't get in there often, but there were times...). To geeks ping and ip(if)config are afterthoughts, most people don't even know what an IP address is..
:) And don't get me started on the forums, I've seen plenty of them where if you didn't know, you were an idiot or a troll and were cast away.. Imagine how the truly "average" person would feel, if they could even find their way there (which they couldn't, allow me to mention the study from recently about Yahoo being the most "googled" thing, and vice versa..)
:P)..
People like pointy-clicky graphical things. It's where the technology has taken them anyway. Ever more graphical installers, autorun, etc. I generally refuse to listen to statements about "the average computing public" from anyone who hasn't worked in technical support, because they don't know what the hell they are talking about. Yes we speak to the lowest levels (like the lady who thought 'double-clicking' was both buttons simultaneously) but we also speak to the average, and even the geeky. You quickly learn how to differentiate between them, it's the only path to sanity and survival.
Slashdot is awash with people proclaiming "It's linux's time!!" They need to step into the real world. I've run a couple linux distro's over the years, I got sick of messing with NDISwrapper to get my wireless card working. I currently run OS X on my Dell laptop, yeah not everything works (bloody sigmatel sound card..), but I don't mind because it's OSX, ON A DELL! It isn't supposed to. If Linux is going to claim it's for a PC it needs to "just work(tm)" or come very close to it. Installing drivers on a PC is barely required anymore, and it's usually an autorun CD that comes with the product. How often does the average computing public have to go into regedit or cmd to make something work? As close to never as you can get. On linux you're into config files and terminal just to get it to boot sometimes
Hell, I've had to reinstall windows on my laptop several times recently due to HD problems, it's really bloody simple.. Boot the CD, tell it to install, choose your partition (most people don't need to, having only one) accept the EULA and it does the rest. *I* would rather do that then mess with NDISwrapper, and I have no fear of the terminal whatsoever. Think about it, Apple has had (mild) success with their "Switch, it's fucking easy" campaign. People LIKE easy. Linux can't even beat windows for simple yet (not reliability, simplicity), so it shall remain the OS of the geek until it can. Besides if it ever DOES get that simple, most of the geeks will be running something else by then (BSD anyone??
Quick technical modification, usually light sensors are looking for 18% grey. At least that's what I have always been taught.
:)
However, there is an interesting post I just uncovered here that discusses the true standard as being 12%.
Of course perhaps you knew this and picked the middle ground?
Wow, thank you. I never would have clicked on the link to see the full first picture if I hadn't read your post.. And yes, it looks very odd. I got a hearty laugh out of it, that's for sure.
:)
Ahh man-rabbit copulation. Maybe that's how he gets 'em so big.
What's wrong with having sex with children? There are tribes in New Guinea where for a boy to become a man, he has to felate older members of the tribe and then swallow the semen to "give him strength." Apparently this begins as part of a long ritual between the ages of 6-10. What makes this ritual or system of belief less valid than say christianity? Is it less moral? (Google the Sambia tribe, or New Guinea and Rituals)
How strongly are you against murder? Are you against war? Abortion? Capital punishment? What if I killed someone who was trying to harm me or my family?
Morals are quite a wishy-washy issue once you get into it. What one person or group of people find abhorrent, others see no problem with. Now I believe certain rules are effective for civilization. Laws against murder, theft etc. Standards that if you put 100 average people in a room, at least 95 of them would agree upon. Morals (IMO) come from many sources. There are the basic moral standards (95/100 again..), morals you get from your parents, your religion, friends, etc. They aren't all equal and they aren't all correct. No one person has 'the' superior moral code.
I agree that larger society is not justified in enforcing his belief system. As I suspect that is where many of his morals are derived from. Yes I chose the chance to knock religion because in the U.S. religion has been a central theme in politics lately. For that matter it always has, however the "christian right" has certainly grown their power recently. However I believe that morals above and beyond the 95/100 rule tend to be personal choices. If you chose to be christian, you generally chose to believe a set of moral convictions. It might not be a conscious choice per-say, but that isn't the point.
Unfortunately selfishness in this country has grown to the point where people want to conform the world to them, and remove the things they do not like. Leave the room, change the channel, walk away. I don't like christian zealots from Kansas protesting at funerals, I don't approve of the KKK, but I wouldn't ever attempt to outlaw them. The freedom to do what you wish (again within the 95/100 rule), and say what you wish should be paramount. So like I said, if you don't like gay marriage don't be a part of one. If you are against abortion (and I'm not a big fan) don't have one. Don't legislate your personal tastes. When in doubt, it isn't a moral issue, it's a mind your own damn business issue. Stick to the basics and leave your Genie in the Sky out of it.
Didn't he look vaguely like Mike Holmgren, but with a semi-mullet?
:)
Yeah I've googled it now, but that's what I remembered from before hand. Fairly close if I do say so.
However in general you have a good point.
Yeah, 'cause I've watched the Princess Bride.. :P
That isn't bad way to go either. N. America's 5 is easier than Europe's 5 that's for sure.
First of all, I get something to laugh at. Entertainment is good. And secondly people might actually start acting more civilized? GREAT! Shame SHOULD be a check on social behavior. If you're ashamed, that's your brain telling you that you're "actin' a fool" and you should probably correct the behavior.
If you're doing it in public, you either don't care, or you deserve to look like a jackass/moron. Not to mention I'd love to find out who's stealing my newspaper.
Exactly. I've got that arrangement right now actually. I'm decent in photoshop, but not stellar, and she's ok with HTML (well, dreamweaver, ewwww) but can't just sit and code in notepad (actually Smultron, if you're on a Mac, google it. It's OSS).
/. :)
So she does the graphics and gives me an idea of the design, then I strip it down to nothing and rebuild it with CSS, HTML and PHP. I throw in a few ideas of my own, tweak the graphics sometimes, but basically I cement a layout and start writing PHP for the nifty bits. Good times, and it saves me the hassle of having all of my websites look like
Decent money split, although I still need to stop her from making small changes in Dreamweaver and mucking up my HTML and indentions..
Bloody hell, I'll WAVE my bullshit flag. At least I didn't insult your grammar while fucking up my own.
That depends on what you consider religion. Actually no it doesn't, that's just made up bullshit. I'll go out on a limb and say that 99% of true "Christians" believe that there is one God and he had a son named Jesus who died for our sins. That is a pretty large common denominator. Since there are religions that believe in multiple gods, and apparently even one that believes in a great bowl of pasta (or whatever that joke is), I'm going to have to waive my bullshit flag.
From what I've seen of Al, he is at least of moderate intelligence. He scored a 1355 on his SAT's and his IQ is said to be 133-134 (link). No Einstein to be sure, but he did win a Presidential election, serve 8 years in the house, another 9 in the senate, and of course serve 8 years as the vice president.. Frosty here has active sperm, can write an e-mail, and he apparently married quite a patriot (RTFA).
But all of that is irrelevant anyway, because: HE DOESN'T FUCKING BELIEVE THE EARTH HAS ONLY BEEN AROUND FOR 14,000 YEARS!! So, yeah, Gore 1, Frosty 0.
Jesus, let the redneck keep his daughter out of class for a day, so the rest of the kids can get smarter, and she can grow up to let her husband think for her, just like her mom. (Again, RTFA.)
Umm, because if you look at the numbers 1) Teen pregnancy/STD rates are higher in the lower income classes of society. and 2) Teens are far less likely to buy them anyway. Why? BECAUSE THEY AREN'T EDUCATED ABOUT THEM!!!
Exactly, hasn't the president ever played Risk? That whole area was usually a bitch to hold. I preferred to go Australia -> Asia -> America/Europe.
YES! Thank you.
Have your religion and feel free to it. I don't care WHAT you believe (unless you're a scientologist, that's just wacky shit) but keep it out of my Government, my Schools, and my LAWS.
We gave them Sunday (perhaps Saturday) to teach their kids all sorts of wacky crap, let the people with facts and science have Monday-Friday to teach children things that are REAL.
Also, condoms do belong in schools. Safe sex is important, and they're having sex anyway. Anyone who thinks differently is probably an idiot. 90% of Americans have pre-maritial sex (link) seems pretty damn important.
Oh, and I'm pretty sure Al Gore was a professor at Columbia for a time (visiting I know..) and that he's smarter than the idiot who seriously believes the earth is a few thousand years old.