...but the number of racist assholes posting to this thread makes me think it's time to require that people selling homes in neighbourhoods with a very high proportion of white people (say, more than 95%) be required to sell only to members of ethnic minorities.
Anyone who tries to force this upon me needs to be shot.
Economically speaking, fascism is a form of guild socialism - corporatism, a word derived not from 'corporation', but from the Latin root meaning 'body'. It is central planning where market competition is suppressed by the state, and sectors of the economy and society are regimented into cartel organizations under the authority of the state.
With Fairchild Semiconductor, the research was done through private initiative, and only after the silicon-based integrated circuit was developed, did the military start buying them.
The transistor (Bell Labs), the integrated circuit (Texas Instruments and Fairchild Semiconductor) and the microprocessor (Intel) were all developed through private initiative. The CPU in my computer is the descendant of the 4004, not the ENIAC.
It becomes less and less nonsensical if you look at historical tax rates and the performance of our economy during those different times (or on the flip side, check out the results of the Chicago School of Economics implementing their ideas in South America a few decades ago).
Same old left-wing talking points.
First, you don't look at how high the highest tax bracket was, because due to all sorts of loopholes, virtually no one actually paid the 91% marginal rate. Instead, you look at what percentage of GDP the government seizes:
For the United States, I defined "high taxes" as the federal government taking more than 18.1% of GDP, for during the Reagan Revolution, the archetype of "voodoo economics" the largest portion of GDP taken by the federal government was slightly more than 18%. Alternatively, I defined "a high taxes period" as any period where the federal government took substantially and persistently more than 18% of GDP.
Average growth during high tax periods was 1.08%, average growth during normal times was 2.45%. Every high tax period was a long period of economic stagnation, malaise, or decline or else contained a long period of decline. Such events were rare during normal tax periods.(Source)
Second, if you look at that link, you'll notice that the nations in South America that adopted the policies of the Chicago School and kept them, are vastly better off, and closer to first-world status, such as Chile, than nations like Argentina, which are devolving into third-world status.
Yes, it's illegal for a democratically-elected government to perform its governmental functions if you can slap a label of "socialist" on it.
Allende was exercising powers the legislature did not grant him in order to implement collectivization and totalitarianism. This prompted a majority of the legislature to call for a military coup.
In 1973, the US-backed Pinochet overthrew the democratic government of Chile. At least 3,197 died.
Salvador Allende was "democratically elected", but then, so was Hitler. Before Pinochet forcibly removed him from power, Allende had destroyed democracy in Chile by imposing socialism in violation of Chilean law.
The government is not coming for me, as far as I can tell, and if it did I would defend myself in court.
Your statement is laughable.
The average respectable middle class male commits something like two or three federal felonies a day, each punishable by several years of imprisonment, and the federal government keeps piling on more and more every year.
Upon being caught and indicted, you will take a plea deal, regardless of whether or not you knew you were breaking the "law" (only about one percent of federal criminal cases go to a jury), because if you don't, you will be handed down an even longer sentence. Conviction rate is over 90 percent, after which you get to be deprived of several of your rights, being a convicted felon.
This one is just outright wrong. Free-market economics lead to large multinationals (Apple, Nike, etc.) outsourcing labor and production to the country with the cheapest rates. This, in turn, leads to companies who pay the lowest sweatshop-level wages
A loaded term, which is basically code-word for "Those filthy n***ers getting jobs so they're no longer dependent upon us wise and benevolent progressives!". These so-called "sweatshops" are in reality, a stepping stone to gradually improving wages and conditions far better than what the people who work there had before.
The difference is that the wacko left-winger Democrats are kept out in the fringe, whereas the wacko Tea Party types have essentially taken over the Republican party.
But yet, America continues to move further and further to the left. The Tea Party is well to the left of where 1980s Democrats were, let alone Ronald Reagan, as they only want a rollback on government to around 2002 levels.
The alternative is to end up with situations where you have large quantities of street rats banging on car windows at every intersection in every major city in the US, crime skyrocketing, property values plummeting, urban blight, disease due to poor living conditions and malnutrition.
So in other words, like it is now in places like Detroit, where people like you have been in control for decades, shoveling in government money in the form of welfare, housing projects, "empowerment zones", etc.
Basically, look at how the poor live in Mumbai or Rio, or hell, even here in the US in cities like Detroit and Cleveland. Those people are getting assistance and look at how bad off those areas are.
Again, places like Detroit and Cleveland are shit precisely because of the perverse incentives created when you give men money for doing nothing, and women money for breeding bastards.
Yeah, tenements that were just as shitty as if not shittier than any public housing. And the difference is that most tenement owners made their tenants pay extortionate rent.
Tenements were far better, and safer, than the public housing projects of the 1950s and 60s.
Right-wingers like you are the ones who are hell-bent on denying people affordable birth-control due to some moralistic agenda. (And I'm not even talking about surgical or pharmaceutically-induced abortions.)
All government funding could be cut off for Planned Abortion tomorrow, and they would still have more than enough money to chauffeur limousines for poor women who wanted abortions, let alone give them free birth control pills.
Yeah, those ones, because (and I'm sure this is going to blow your mind) it is still better than being homeless and living in a car, or on the fucking street.
I'd certainly be living in a car if the only alternative was the projects as you described them.
Really? It's that simple?! Oh my God!! Hey guys, looks like Mike here solved the problem with poverty in the US, we just need to pair them up and make them get married, then they will magically have all the means to raise those kids just fine without any assistance! We'll just put them in all that low-cost private housing! You know, all those decent neighborhoods filled with benevolent landlords that are waiting to receive all the people from the projects with open arms? How could we forget about them?!
Before public housing, poor people used to live with extended family in tenements, or other low-cost housing.
You have no concept of what you speak of. The vast majority of the people in those situations didn't choose to be there, they ended up there due to circumstances outside of their control.
Having children one cannot afford is outside one's control?
The biggest tragedy is all the people calling for the end to social security. In civilized cultures the elderly are revered and taken care of because they raised us and everything we have today was built upon their hard work and sacrifices when they were our age.
Before Social Security, the elderly who could no longer afford to live on their own, and couldn't work, lived with their children. They didn't take from others for what they had a lifetime to save for.
I mean, what the hell did we spend all these billions defending our country if we can't even take care of our own? We have fucking veterans sleeping under bridges.
Any veteran sleeping under a bridge is probably suffering from severe mental illness, and/or a drug user, and/or doesn't seek help as a matter of pride. From my observations, this is probably true of most anybody who's homeless.
As someone that's actually been poor and lived in the projects
You mean those crime-ridden hell-holes that your wise and benevolent government built for you as part of the myriad of social programs that you're vehemently arguing against cutting?
And no, the alternative isn't poor people starving and dying in the streets, it's poor people getting married to support their children in low-cost private housing, instead of being raised by government-subsidized single mothers only to become bastards who commit rape, robbery, murder, and other mayhem.
So waste your mod points labeling me a troll for daring to call out your bullshit. but statistics as well as common sense shows that higher taxes on the wealthy increases employment and growth
You don't look at how high the highest tax bracket was, because due to all sorts of loopholes, virtually no one actually paid the 91% marginal rate. Instead, you look at what percentage of GDP the government seizes:
For the United States, I defined "high taxes" as the federal government taking more than 18.1% of GDP, for during the Reagan Revolution, the archetype of "voodoo economics" the largest portion of GDP taken by the federal government was slightly more than 18%. Alternatively, I defined "a high taxes period" as any period where the federal government took substantially and persistently more than 18% of GDP.
Average growth during high tax periods was 1.08%, average growth during normal times was 2.45%. Every high tax period was a long period of economic stagnation, malaise, or decline or else contained a long period of decline. Such events were rare during normal tax periods.(Source)
It's leftists who used to use 'fascist' as an epithet, and some still do. Now, they just call those who they disagree with 'racist'.
Economically speaking, fascism is a form of guild socialism - corporatism, a word derived not from 'corporation', but from the Latin root meaning 'body'. It is central planning where market competition is suppressed by the state, and sectors of the economy and society are regimented into cartel organizations under the authority of the state.
The so-called "Business Plot" was an invention of Smedley Butler, who provided no supporting documentation.
The only man installing fascism in the United States was FDR himself, through the New Deal, which attempted to mirror the economic policies of Mussolini's Italy.
By the way, you'll notice that even the source you cited doesn't claim that high taxes hurts GDP or that lowering taxes helps the economy. In fact, it shows the opposite, demolishing the most important "conservative" talking point of all: that we are "over-taxed" and that such "over-taxing" hurts the economy or stifles growth.
You don't look at how high the marginal tax rates were, because due to all sorts of loopholes, virtually no one actually paid the 91% marginal rate. Instead, you look at what percentage of GDP the government takes:
Average growth during high tax periods was 1.08%, average growth during normal times was 2.45%. Every high tax period was a long period of economic stagnation, malaise, or decline or else contained a long period of decline. Such events were rare during normal tax periods.(Source)
Do people in this country really understand that the right wing religious nut-cases are out to make this country a theocracy ? American taliban indeed.
You're just pissed that Christians are trying to get in on the whole indoctrination business that the left-wing theocrats have been involved with for decades.
Last I checked, anthropogenic global warming propaganda films were still being shown in public schools under the guise of "science", as well as other extreme-left agitprop being shoved down the throats of impressionable youngsters.
That wasn't Glenn Beck saying the birth certificate was a forgery, that was a link, probably copied and pasted by one of his staff, to a blog post with a paragraph description that's been posted all over the web.
...but the number of racist assholes posting to this thread makes me think it's time to require that people selling homes in neighbourhoods with a very high proportion of white people (say, more than 95%) be required to sell only to members of ethnic minorities.
Anyone who tries to force this upon me needs to be shot.
Economically speaking, fascism is a form of guild socialism - corporatism, a word derived not from 'corporation', but from the Latin root meaning 'body'. It is central planning where market competition is suppressed by the state, and sectors of the economy and society are regimented into cartel organizations under the authority of the state.
When corporate power gets out of hand, and bends government to its will, that's fascism
No, it's not.
With Fairchild Semiconductor, the research was done through private initiative, and only after the silicon-based integrated circuit was developed, did the military start buying them.
The transistor (Bell Labs), the integrated circuit (Texas Instruments and Fairchild Semiconductor) and the microprocessor (Intel) were all developed through private initiative. The CPU in my computer is the descendant of the 4004, not the ENIAC.
Same old left-wing talking points.
First, you don't look at how high the highest tax bracket was, because due to all sorts of loopholes, virtually no one actually paid the 91% marginal rate. Instead, you look at what percentage of GDP the government seizes:
For the United States, I defined "high taxes" as the federal government taking more than 18.1% of GDP, for during the Reagan Revolution, the archetype of "voodoo economics" the largest portion of GDP taken by the federal government was slightly more than 18%. Alternatively, I defined "a high taxes period" as any period where the federal government took substantially and persistently more than 18% of GDP.
Average growth during high tax periods was 1.08%, average growth during normal times was 2.45%. Every high tax period was a long period of economic stagnation, malaise, or decline or else contained a long period of decline. Such events were rare during normal tax periods.(Source)
Second, if you look at that link, you'll notice that the nations in South America that adopted the policies of the Chicago School and kept them, are vastly better off, and closer to first-world status, such as Chile, than nations like Argentina, which are devolving into third-world status.
Yes, it's illegal for a democratically-elected government to perform its governmental functions if you can slap a label of "socialist" on it.
Allende was exercising powers the legislature did not grant him in order to implement collectivization and totalitarianism. This prompted a majority of the legislature to call for a military coup.
In 1973, the US-backed Pinochet overthrew the democratic government of Chile. At least 3,197 died.
Salvador Allende was "democratically elected", but then, so was Hitler. Before Pinochet forcibly removed him from power, Allende had destroyed democracy in Chile by imposing socialism in violation of Chilean law.
No, the CIA was not involved in the coup.
So repealing 17 pages of regulations and replacing them with thousands more is "more libertarian"?
The "financial issue" we are having was caused primarily by affirmative-action lending mandated by the government, not by any "libertarian" policies.
For one, you'd better have appropriate documentation before buying or selling anything made out of wood.
First of all this, of course, ignores the fact that they use the roads,
I wish I only had to pay for roads. My tax burden would be a fraction of what it is now.
they live in safe conditions, etc etc etc that the government in its form has provided.
The police don't keep me safe, and the government tries to prevent me from providing for my own safety.
The government is not coming for me, as far as I can tell, and if it did I would defend myself in court.
Your statement is laughable.
The average respectable middle class male commits something like two or three federal felonies a day, each punishable by several years of imprisonment, and the federal government keeps piling on more and more every year.
Upon being caught and indicted, you will take a plea deal, regardless of whether or not you knew you were breaking the "law" (only about one percent of federal criminal cases go to a jury), because if you don't, you will be handed down an even longer sentence. Conviction rate is over 90 percent, after which you get to be deprived of several of your rights, being a convicted felon.
Define 'wage-earner', and why is this a better gauge of living standards than median income, GDP PPP, or consumption statistics.
This one is just outright wrong. Free-market economics lead to large multinationals (Apple, Nike, etc.) outsourcing labor and production to the country with the cheapest rates. This, in turn, leads to companies who pay the lowest sweatshop-level wages
A loaded term, which is basically code-word for "Those filthy n***ers getting jobs so they're no longer dependent upon us wise and benevolent progressives!". These so-called "sweatshops" are in reality, a stepping stone to gradually improving wages and conditions far better than what the people who work there had before.
The difference is that the wacko left-winger Democrats are kept out in the fringe, whereas the wacko Tea Party types have essentially taken over the Republican party.
But yet, America continues to move further and further to the left. The Tea Party is well to the left of where 1980s Democrats were, let alone Ronald Reagan, as they only want a rollback on government to around 2002 levels.
The alternative is to end up with situations where you have large quantities of street rats banging on car windows at every intersection in every major city in the US, crime skyrocketing, property values plummeting, urban blight, disease due to poor living conditions and malnutrition.
So in other words, like it is now in places like Detroit, where people like you have been in control for decades, shoveling in government money in the form of welfare, housing projects, "empowerment zones", etc.
Basically, look at how the poor live in Mumbai or Rio, or hell, even here in the US in cities like Detroit and Cleveland. Those people are getting assistance and look at how bad off those areas are.
Again, places like Detroit and Cleveland are shit precisely because of the perverse incentives created when you give men money for doing nothing, and women money for breeding bastards.
Yeah, tenements that were just as shitty as if not shittier than any public housing. And the difference is that most tenement owners made their tenants pay extortionate rent.
Tenements were far better, and safer, than the public housing projects of the 1950s and 60s.
Right-wingers like you are the ones who are hell-bent on denying people affordable birth-control due to some moralistic agenda. (And I'm not even talking about surgical or pharmaceutically-induced abortions.)
All government funding could be cut off for Planned Abortion tomorrow, and they would still have more than enough money to chauffeur limousines for poor women who wanted abortions, let alone give them free birth control pills.
Yeah, those ones, because (and I'm sure this is going to blow your mind) it is still better than being homeless and living in a car, or on the fucking street.
I'd certainly be living in a car if the only alternative was the projects as you described them.
Really? It's that simple?! Oh my God!! Hey guys, looks like Mike here solved the problem with poverty in the US, we just need to pair them up and make them get married, then they will magically have all the means to raise those kids just fine without any assistance! We'll just put them in all that low-cost private housing! You know, all those decent neighborhoods filled with benevolent landlords that are waiting to receive all the people from the projects with open arms? How could we forget about them?!
Before public housing, poor people used to live with extended family in tenements, or other low-cost housing.
You have no concept of what you speak of. The vast majority of the people in those situations didn't choose to be there, they ended up there due to circumstances outside of their control.
Having children one cannot afford is outside one's control?
The biggest tragedy is all the people calling for the end to social security. In civilized cultures the elderly are revered and taken care of because they raised us and everything we have today was built upon their hard work and sacrifices when they were our age.
Before Social Security, the elderly who could no longer afford to live on their own, and couldn't work, lived with their children. They didn't take from others for what they had a lifetime to save for.
I mean, what the hell did we spend all these billions defending our country if we can't even take care of our own? We have fucking veterans sleeping under bridges.
Any veteran sleeping under a bridge is probably suffering from severe mental illness, and/or a drug user, and/or doesn't seek help as a matter of pride. From my observations, this is probably true of most anybody who's homeless.
As someone that's actually been poor and lived in the projects
You mean those crime-ridden hell-holes that your wise and benevolent government built for you as part of the myriad of social programs that you're vehemently arguing against cutting?
And no, the alternative isn't poor people starving and dying in the streets, it's poor people getting married to support their children in low-cost private housing, instead of being raised by government-subsidized single mothers only to become bastards who commit rape, robbery, murder, and other mayhem.
So waste your mod points labeling me a troll for daring to call out your bullshit. but statistics as well as common sense shows that higher taxes on the wealthy increases employment and growth
You don't look at how high the highest tax bracket was, because due to all sorts of loopholes, virtually no one actually paid the 91% marginal rate. Instead, you look at what percentage of GDP the government seizes:
For the United States, I defined "high taxes" as the federal government taking more than 18.1% of GDP, for during the Reagan Revolution, the archetype of "voodoo economics" the largest portion of GDP taken by the federal government was slightly more than 18%. Alternatively, I defined "a high taxes period" as any period where the federal government took substantially and persistently more than 18% of GDP.
Average growth during high tax periods was 1.08%, average growth during normal times was 2.45%. Every high tax period was a long period of economic stagnation, malaise, or decline or else contained a long period of decline. Such events were rare during normal tax periods.(Source)
It's leftists who used to use 'fascist' as an epithet, and some still do. Now, they just call those who they disagree with 'racist'.
Economically speaking, fascism is a form of guild socialism - corporatism, a word derived not from 'corporation', but from the Latin root meaning 'body'. It is central planning where market competition is suppressed by the state, and sectors of the economy and society are regimented into cartel organizations under the authority of the state.
The so-called "Business Plot" was an invention of Smedley Butler, who provided no supporting documentation.
The only man installing fascism in the United States was FDR himself, through the New Deal, which attempted to mirror the economic policies of Mussolini's Italy.
By the way, you'll notice that even the source you cited doesn't claim that high taxes hurts GDP or that lowering taxes helps the economy. In fact, it shows the opposite, demolishing the most important "conservative" talking point of all: that we are "over-taxed" and that such "over-taxing" hurts the economy or stifles growth.
You don't look at how high the marginal tax rates were, because due to all sorts of loopholes, virtually no one actually paid the 91% marginal rate. Instead, you look at what percentage of GDP the government takes:
Average growth during high tax periods was 1.08%, average growth during normal times was 2.45%. Every high tax period was a long period of economic stagnation, malaise, or decline or else contained a long period of decline. Such events were rare during normal tax periods.(Source)
Do people in this country really understand that the right wing religious nut-cases are out to make this country a theocracy ? American taliban indeed.
You're just pissed that Christians are trying to get in on the whole indoctrination business that the left-wing theocrats have been involved with for decades.
Last I checked, anthropogenic global warming propaganda films were still being shown in public schools under the guise of "science", as well as other extreme-left agitprop being shoved down the throats of impressionable youngsters.
That wasn't Glenn Beck saying the birth certificate was a forgery, that was a link, probably copied and pasted by one of his staff, to a blog post with a paragraph description that's been posted all over the web.