They have a 3 or 4 years old iPhone but still want to run the latest and greatest OS
Actually the court ruling was specifically about NOT wanting to run the latest and greatest OS, and not being given the option.
I guess the only thing Apple can do now is to put out a statement indicating that installing a new operating system MAY result in performance degradations in older generation hardware.
Or they could provide users the choice of not upgrading and make the factory reset options actually reset the phone to factory settings and work the way it did when the user originally purchased it.
Why does another country need to reach the same findings? Just because you found two cases you misinterpreted (and you did grossly misinterpret them) doesn't invalidate the entire legal system.
That way they should constantly fine almost all the software companies in the world because almost all of them deliberately slow their their software products all the time.
Nope. The fine here was not that new software is slow, but that the new software was forced without recourse. Most other software company provides some way to install their old software.
A. Release software updates that can slow older phones down
B. Release software updates only for newer phones
I'll go with C. Release software updates that can slow older phones and provide users the option to not install them and to downgrade (upgrade?) to the previous version if they see fit.
I am not sure that the incompetence and laziness of bloatware kernels and OS's is actually malicious per se.
Malicious is not providing a way to get the device to operate as originally purchased. That is all. The slowdown doesn't need to be done on purpose, it just needs to be done without recourse in order for there to be a problem. It's not even a question of support or security, just one of user choice.
Empty threats are fun. Or did you miss the anti-trust rulling against Google recently which identified that the App Store itself formed a significant amount of market power for Google in the Android eco-system?
VR *HAS BEEN* (for decades) and always will be a niche.
VR Has been, (past tense) far more of a niche than it is at present. With actual major studio content starting to move towards it that niche is ever shrinking.
but your average players are never going to strap a helmet to their heads to play a game that you still have to use a joystick with.
Huh? Why? That seems to be exactly what people are doing.
What are you talking about. There is a shitload of VR porn content dedicated to major popular headsets to suit various resolutions and playback capabilities. Also the lack of some app store hasn't stopped Illusion's games adopting VR either.
If you can't find the content you must be blind.... How did you... oh wait.
What it has to be is either perfect, or cheap. Since it is neither of these things
It's as cheap as you want to make it. The GearVR headset can be had for less than a Benjamin Franklin. Google cardboard for a significant cut lower.
Now that IS cheap, however it's not good. So you can't say that it just has to be perfect or cheap. There has to be an element of both in it.
Also cheap is overrated. Look at all those sold out RTX2080s everywhere. It's amazing the kind of money people are actually willing to part with for incremental improvements. Don't confuse "cheap" with "affordable".
Sorry you're 100% right, mistranslation. I've spent way too much time in Europe. They are served with the green thing. English: Lime German: Limone Dutch: Limoen
Why are your eggs in a plastic carton? Ours are in cardboard. Why is your salami in a plastic pouch? Ours just hang on string in supermarkets inside natural skins often coated in a layer of Penicillium. Why is your cheese in a plastic pouch? Ours is sliced off a wheel that is encased in wax.
Note I'm legitimately asking. Is it a choice or are products not available in a more natural packaging to you?
On the flip side I'm getting off my high horse to say that same place I buy the above from has decided to individually wrap (or buy individually wrapped) paprikas. They also offer for sale plastic wrapped "organic" avacados, presumably so you can tell them apart from the non-organic variety. Whomever came up with that idea needs punch in the face.
Most probably it has to do with the different source of sugar. Coca Cola tastes different in every country regardless of which bottle you get it in. As for beer it could very likely be the case that the beer in the can is fresher. Glass bottles are not ideal for beer in the way they are stored and exposed to light. Beer is sensitive to light which is why many beers use as dark of a glass as possible. In cans beer is kept fully airtight, light tight, and nitrogen blanketed. I always ask this question during brewery tours and the answer is always the same: cans are better for the beer, but our customers think it's cheap which is why we ship it in bottles instead.
Now just remember this tibbit next time you're drinking a Corona. Maybe it's not a bad beer that is only remotely palatable when combined with lemon, but rather it just went off on account of ignoring hundreds of years of experience of exposing beer to light in clear glass bottles:-)
Sitting right next to the battery, that you can't charge when it gets over 45 degrees or you risk it catching fire.
Why be so presumptuous? It's up to the *phone* to reduce it's charging rate if there's a temperature issue. It's not up to the phone at all to ensure that a device connected to it doesn't overheat or otherwise.
And phones already protect the battery from overheating during charging by turning off the charge.
There are surprisingly few phones that are certified for > 5w Qi charging. I'm guessing there's gotta be a reason for that.
Probably a shitty database. I just looked up the two devices we have in the house that support high-speed Qi chargers just fine, and both of them are listed in that list only with the Basic Power Profile.
Or maybe certification isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
Funny that every single version of OS X/macOS since 10.5 (Leopard) has been a Certified Unix (something NO Linux will EVER be).
It is funny that OSX / MacOS seems to be the only OS that wants to be certified as another one. This is quite a strange thing to be proud of as a mac fanboi.
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I mean, slowing them down is better than them abruptly shutting off well before 0% due to a weak battery, no?
What should they have done?
Not talked about the battery issue since it had nothing to do with why they were in court.
I completely agree with your sentiments here.
So you also don't understand the court decision?
They have a 3 or 4 years old iPhone but still want to run the latest and greatest OS
Actually the court ruling was specifically about NOT wanting to run the latest and greatest OS, and not being given the option.
I guess the only thing Apple can do now is to put out a statement indicating that installing a new operating system MAY result in performance degradations in older generation hardware.
Or they could provide users the choice of not upgrading and make the factory reset options actually reset the phone to factory settings and work the way it did when the user originally purchased it.
The fact you think this about battery management shows you don't understand the courts, or the ruling, or what was even being argued.
But hey, fanboi gotta fanboi even if it is just talking about irrelevant garbage.
Why does another country need to reach the same findings? Just because you found two cases you misinterpreted (and you did grossly misinterpret them) doesn't invalidate the entire legal system.
That way they should constantly fine almost all the software companies in the world because almost all of them deliberately slow their their software products all the time.
Nope. The fine here was not that new software is slow, but that the new software was forced without recourse. Most other software company provides some way to install their old software.
So now they have a couple of choices:
A. Release software updates that can slow older phones down
B. Release software updates only for newer phones
I'll go with C. Release software updates that can slow older phones and provide users the option to not install them and to downgrade (upgrade?) to the previous version if they see fit.
I am not sure that the incompetence and laziness of bloatware kernels and OS's is actually malicious per se.
Malicious is not providing a way to get the device to operate as originally purchased. That is all. The slowdown doesn't need to be done on purpose, it just needs to be done without recourse in order for there to be a problem. It's not even a question of support or security, just one of user choice.
Empty threats are fun. Or did you miss the anti-trust rulling against Google recently which identified that the App Store itself formed a significant amount of market power for Google in the Android eco-system?
The eco terrorist's manifesto.
VR *HAS BEEN* (for decades) and always will be a niche.
VR Has been, (past tense) far more of a niche than it is at present. With actual major studio content starting to move towards it that niche is ever shrinking.
but your average players are never going to strap a helmet to their heads to play a game that you still have to use a joystick with.
Huh? Why? That seems to be exactly what people are doing.
What are you talking about. There is a shitload of VR porn content dedicated to major popular headsets to suit various resolutions and playback capabilities. Also the lack of some app store hasn't stopped Illusion's games adopting VR either.
If you can't find the content you must be blind. ... How did you... oh wait.
When the sights looks lifelike and not uncanny valley,
Oh please. If that were an actual consideration then the entire games industry wouldn't exist.
You can not see the game controller.
Of course you can. You cannot see you hand on the controller, but the controller in most games is rendered accurately in the 3D space.
What it has to be is either perfect, or cheap. Since it is neither of these things
It's as cheap as you want to make it. The GearVR headset can be had for less than a Benjamin Franklin. Google cardboard for a significant cut lower.
Now that IS cheap, however it's not good. So you can't say that it just has to be perfect or cheap. There has to be an element of both in it.
Also cheap is overrated. Look at all those sold out RTX2080s everywhere. It's amazing the kind of money people are actually willing to part with for incremental improvements. Don't confuse "cheap" with "affordable".
an action with has caused a bit of consternation in countries affected by the ruling.
The only reason that has caused consternation is because handing over the data was deemed illegal locally where the data is held.
The same protections are not afforded in this case. Google doesn't have a legally protected right to do what it is doing anywhere.
Expect Google to just start making their own phones here very quickly.
Google do make their own phones....
hahahah. *tips hat*
Sorry you're 100% right, mistranslation. I've spent way too much time in Europe. They are served with the green thing.
English: Lime
German: Limone
Dutch: Limoen
Why are your eggs in a plastic carton? Ours are in cardboard.
Why is your salami in a plastic pouch? Ours just hang on string in supermarkets inside natural skins often coated in a layer of Penicillium.
Why is your cheese in a plastic pouch? Ours is sliced off a wheel that is encased in wax.
Note I'm legitimately asking. Is it a choice or are products not available in a more natural packaging to you?
On the flip side I'm getting off my high horse to say that same place I buy the above from has decided to individually wrap (or buy individually wrapped) paprikas. They also offer for sale plastic wrapped "organic" avacados, presumably so you can tell them apart from the non-organic variety. Whomever came up with that idea needs punch in the face.
Most probably it has to do with the different source of sugar. Coca Cola tastes different in every country regardless of which bottle you get it in. As for beer it could very likely be the case that the beer in the can is fresher. Glass bottles are not ideal for beer in the way they are stored and exposed to light. Beer is sensitive to light which is why many beers use as dark of a glass as possible. In cans beer is kept fully airtight, light tight, and nitrogen blanketed. I always ask this question during brewery tours and the answer is always the same: cans are better for the beer, but our customers think it's cheap which is why we ship it in bottles instead.
Now just remember this tibbit next time you're drinking a Corona. Maybe it's not a bad beer that is only remotely palatable when combined with lemon, but rather it just went off on account of ignoring hundreds of years of experience of exposing beer to light in clear glass bottles :-)
Sitting right next to the battery, that you can't charge when it gets over 45 degrees or you risk it catching fire.
Why be so presumptuous? It's up to the *phone* to reduce it's charging rate if there's a temperature issue. It's not up to the phone at all to ensure that a device connected to it doesn't overheat or otherwise.
And phones already protect the battery from overheating during charging by turning off the charge.
works just fine with an iPhone.
Negative. Plenty of them will not "fast" charge on iPhones. All of them will however provide some level of power to them.
There are surprisingly few phones that are certified for > 5w Qi charging. I'm guessing there's gotta be a reason for that.
Probably a shitty database. I just looked up the two devices we have in the house that support high-speed Qi chargers just fine, and both of them are listed in that list only with the Basic Power Profile.
Or maybe certification isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
It makes it sound 1000x more legit. Like it's backed by the government or something.
Pfft. Screw that. I'm starting legitcoin. That will make me infinitely more legit than all those other pretenders.
Funny that every single version of OS X/macOS since 10.5 (Leopard) has been a Certified Unix (something NO Linux will EVER be).
It is funny that OSX / MacOS seems to be the only OS that wants to be certified as another one. This is quite a strange thing to be proud of as a mac fanboi.