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Winamp 5.8, the First Update In 4 Years, Is Released (bleepingcomputer.com)

Winamp, the world's most famous media player, has released version 5.8 to make it compatible with today's modern operating systems such as Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. Bleeping Computer notes that there hasn't been a new updates released since 2014, when Radionomy purchased Winamp from AOL. Some other new features include standalone audio player support, an auto-fullscreen option for videos, updates scrollbars and buttons, and bug fixes.

From the report: Radionomy has stated that they are not stopping here and have big plans for Winamp. In an interview with TechCrunch, Radionomy CEO Alexandre Saboundjian, revealed that a massive release is planned for 2019 that aims to add cloud support for streaming music, podcasts, and more. "There will be a completely new version next year, with the legacy of Winamp but a more complete listening experience," Saboundjian stated in the interview. "You can listen to the MP3s you may have at home, but also to the cloud, to podcasts, to streaming radio stations, to a playlist you perhaps have built."

198 comments

  1. But by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does it still whip the llama's ass?

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    1. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...into the cloud!

    2. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You Betcha...

    3. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Does it still whip the llama's ass?

      It never stopped.

      Right now, I'm running the old version of WinAmp (5.66) on the latest version of Windows 10 and it works just fine. It's small, simple, it works and it plays any audio file I want.

      When I see "Big Update Planned" it just means "We're going to fuck things up".

    4. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Oh, yes it did. Winamp is long obsolete.

      foobar2000 is objectively the best audio player but a long, long way. It's so far ahead that nothing else is even close to catching up.

      XMPlay is a player with a simplistic, Winamp-like interface, but it plays many more file formats and is just a lot more finished and professional feeling than Winamp.

      1by1 is great if you want a basic player directory player without any extras.

    5. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mehehehehehh!

    6. Re:But by ckatko · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I seriously still use Winamp to this day.

      https://i.imgur.com/ZjA2AcC.pn...

      It plays MP3s, FLAC, OGG, etc. It has modular plugin API for obscure things like NES music. It supports global hotkeys. Skins.

      And uses 16MB of RAM and 0% CPU to play an MP3. AS IT !@#$'ING SHOULD.

      I haven't tried the newest version yet. But every "winamp clone" I've tried (on Linux included) was actually far more CPU and RAM usage and missed actual useful features like global hotkeys.

      Although, in the last few years, I've really started to use YouTube (+Ublock) as a music player since it has literally everything ever.

    7. Re:But by Zumbs · · Score: 1

      On my computer, VLC uses 0-0.1 % CPU and 12.8 MB of RAM when playing a single mp3 file. Treating my entire music library as a playlist and rolling it out does increase the memory usage, but with more than 7000 music files taking up 29 GB, that is not surprising.

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    8. Re: But by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      I switched to foobar2000 many years ago for my Windows audio player and never looked back.

      The cloud stuff is intriguing though. I haven't researched it recently but I am not aware of a plugin for FB2K that streams media directly from cloud storage. I use CloudPlayer on Android for that. That could be a killer feature for WA on mobile platforms....

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    9. Re: But by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I've though so about earlier updates and you run the latest (before this leaked one) and are happy with that so I don't understand your worries.

    10. Re:But by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      And for a non-retarded question... does it come with an updated version of Milkdrop??

    11. Re: But by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 1

      ooooorrrrrrrr......
      The population as a whole doesn't care about hording digital music files anymore and pays for a music service that has 99% of what they are looking for.

    12. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoever did the design work on the GUI in foobar 2000 must have been blind. Even Windows Media Player lookers better. What are the advantages of of foobar over any other media player?

    13. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used 'youtube-dl -x' too : this downloads audio from youtube, and will even automatically download an entire "youtube playlist" (which sometimes is a music album) unless you pass a command line flag to download only the first. You most often have to quote the youtube URL due to characters interpreted by bash (this will stop non technical users right there...)

      The winamp clones on linux are Audacious 3.x and deadbeef, good enough for me in this age where megabytes are wasted on a clock. In fact Audacious 3.x has Qt builds for Windows and I've used it on Windows. When installing on someone else's computer, that's good. Installing free and open source software feels good and thus even the owner will feel good about this.

      If there's no way out : you can find the playlist support in Windows Media Player and DJ on that!

    14. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Foobar2000 looks like shit. I just want a widget like WinAmp provides. It is the classic open source problem where the guts are solid but the appearance is shit.

    15. Re:But by Antiocheian · · Score: 1

      I don't know about 1by1, but in cases I want a basic file/directory player I use Media Player Classic homecinema.

    16. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically everything great about WinAmp is in Foobar2000. And none of the bad stuff.

      I switched from WinAmp to Foobar2000 to VLC. Not that VLC is all that great out of the box, but once you load up some plug-ins for the UI it becomes a good cross-platform choice.

    17. Re:But by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately no. When AOL purchased them, they sold off all the llamas to a sweater company in Denver.

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    18. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. By default, foobar2000 looks better and is easier to use than Winamp or WMP. It can also be customised to look and work exactly the way the user wants. It can play *any* audio file format. It also has a large collection of components that extend its functionality.

      Oh and it's the de facto player of choice on Hydrogenaudio, _the_ audio experts community.

      Here are just some of the interfaces people have created for it.

      I use my own custom interface which has evolved and grown with my needs over the past 15 years. This is something fundamental and wonderful that basic media players like Winamp simply can't ever do.

      foobar2000 has changed the way I listen to my music. 20 years ago, I used to open my file manager, manually look for an audio file, double-click it and listen...for each and every song. Or I would create playlists and populate them by manually looking through all audio files in my file manager, then manually dragging them to the playlist one by one. Creating playlists based on specific criteria was a completely manual thing and took forever to do. That's still the Winamp way. With foobar2000, I can create a playlist with multiple specific criteria per track out of a library of tens of thousands of tracks in seconds.

    19. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Foobar2000 looks like shit.

      Funny, because I think the same about Winamp. It's so gaudy, limited and undiscoverable.

      I just want a widget like WinAmp provides.

      Then do it. foobar2000 can look and work in any way. That's what makes it so awesome. If you're incapable of making your own, you can download many themes created by people who are smarter than you apparently are.

    20. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XMPlay is great for tracker modules (.MOD, .XM, .S3M) and even supports MO3 format (tracker music format with high quality samples). It uses BASS library for playback which is quite accurate in replaying these formats in terms of timing and effects.

      Another great player is AIMP. Similar to the old versions of WinAmp, but it has a live stream recording feature included.

    21. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Non-sequitur much? How does your comment relate in any way to what the guy above you said?

      I think you've got mental problems. You're imagining things and having fake arguments.

      Also, I don't care what the population as a whole does because I can think for myself. Some of us aren't into mainstream pop music and I like having my music locally with me. It means I never have to worry about having a reliable internet connection (or a connection at all) or internet congestion or services removing stuff or perpetually having to pay for my music or DRM or any number of headaches. I just pop my micro SD filled with music into any device and away I go.

      One thing I do wonder about people like you though, how do you manage your music? I mean how do you create a playlist, for example? Since you can't use a media player of your choice to listen to your music service, aren't you beholden to the limitations that their web app has? That means you can't easily create playlists based on multiple specific criteria nor can you access EQs, continuators, crossfaders, convolvers, resamplers or anything of the sort. You also can't use visualisations. That might not be a problem with someone with your simple musical tastes, but it must be a really shitty experience for a music connoisseur.

    22. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Milk drop has been superseded by projectM. Also, there is a group porting milky mist to x86.. that will be interesting

    23. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So can WinAmp...anyone can make a theme it's just pictures.

    24. Re: But by mark_reh · · Score: 1

      The last I saw, ProjectM was pretty weak compared to MilkDrop.

    25. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mps-youtube is delicious gold: it's a command-line interface for youtube-dl with plenty of fun options.

    26. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have continued to use vuplayer 4 and found it the best overall basic music player. Simply straight forward interface, not bloated. Easy to access any audio files across your network, no cloud bs. I have yet to find any audio player that beats this for basic usage.

      Geekpoet

    27. Re:But by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      XMPlay is a player with a simplistic, Winamp-like interface, but it plays many more file formats and is just a lot more finished and professional feeling than Winamp.

      Huge fan of XMPlay. It's kinda like what Winamp was, back in the day.. Works great.. No glaring bugs... Plays anything I throw at it and has some pretty decent visual plugins.. Actually, it has a ton of plugins, period.. Format plugins (.flac, etc) audio processing plugins, and visual plugins..

    28. Re: But by jpaine619 · · Score: 1
      Well said..

      I love how some of these asshats assume that everywhere someone goes, there will be internet.. But of course that's because they are city dwellers who'd shit themselves if they actually ended up more than a mile from a cell tower.. :)

    29. Re:But by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      Right now, I'm running the old version of WinAmp (5.66) on the latest version of Windows 10 and it works just fine. It's small, simple, it works and it plays any audio file I want.

      I actually bought it back in the day, and it works just fine on Win10 for me as well, including visualizations.

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    30. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They need to put chroma key back into MilkDrop...
      It was great to have "desktop mode" in full screen apps. All whitespace is psychedelic. Now I can't do it anymore. :-(

    31. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No it can't. You can only make Winamp themes that work similarly to the default interface. With foobar2000, you can change the very way the interface works.

      It's funny how much tunnel vision Winamp has given you. You aren't capable of comprehending what it means to change how the player works.

    32. Re: But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way too limited. How do you listen to a specific genre? Or listen to only two specific genres and only from the years 1982, 1988, 1993, 1997 and 2001? Or listen to only two specific genres, only from the years 1982, 1988, 1993, 1997 and 2001 and only with a rating of 4 and above? How do you filter out a dynamic playlist based on mood or memories? In foobar2000, it's trivial and takes mere seconds. I could never go back to using a manual player like vuplayer or winamp.

    33. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get it.

      You just listed some shit that Winamp can also do, while claiming that Winamp can't do these things, to prove that Foobar is somehow better.

      Are you Donald Trump?

    34. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It ships with MilkDrop 2.25c if that helps

    35. Re:But by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      So a few quick comparisons:

      Foobar2000: 15.6MB of RAM, 0% CPU playing an MP3. - Plugin ecosystem bigger than Winamp's
      VLC: 18.2MB of RAM, 0% CPU playing an MP3. - Haven't installed any customisations, plays everything I've ever thrown at it.

      Now to insult your requirements a bit:
      Windows Media Player: 19.5MB of RAM, 0% CPU playing an MP3. - Plays anything for which a DS filter exists, which is pretty much everything.

      But since we're measurbating:
      Media Player Classic - Home Cinema: 9MB of RAM, 0% CPU playing an MP3.

      I don't have iTunes installed, and I'm sure it would horribly lose, but the point is Winamp's success in your criteria is mediocre in the literal sense of the word. Compared to 4 other media players it is very middle of the rung.

      Also since I don't have a Pentium 100 anymore I can't really get excited about RAM usage of any of the media players on my computer.

    36. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you provide image based evidence as if anyone actually gives a shit if your telling the truth or not LOL

    37. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And uses 16MB of RAM and 0% CPU to play an MP3. AS IT !@#$'ING SHOULD.

      I just wanted to say that playing a vorbis file on a Pentium 150 from circa 1995 took something like 30-60 % of CPU power.

      MP3 decoding was much much lighter. Maybe 1-5 %.

      Modern computers are so fast that a program that might show up as 0 % CPU in a 2011 Athlon X3 looks like 50 % CPU on a Athlon from 2001. Yes, I have both and those are real numbers.

    38. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. Winamp supports basic theming, such as changing how the player body or buttons look. This is why every Winamp theme shares the same basic layout and doesn't introduce functionality that wasn't already there. Winamp does not support customising the entire way the player works. This was clearly stated, so I can only assume that your use of Winamp has given you tunnel-vision and you are unable to envision the possibilities or understand what that even means.

      Imagine two LEGO sets. One of them is the traditional blocks and the other is a newer set comprised of pre-moulded shapes. The former allows you to build anything in any colour while the latter only lets you build one thing with different colours. foobar2000 is the former, Winamp is the latter.

    39. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll add that Foobar2000 does have global hotkeys. I know this because I use them. You do have to set them up, first, though; they're not on by default.

    40. Re:But by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clementine is hands-down the best audio player. Even the windows version kicks serious ass.

      numbnuts

    41. Re:But by LambertH · · Score: 1

      Well after installing 5.8 and running Malwarebytes just terminates the process at once. Malwarebytes www.malwarebytes.com -Log Details- Protection Event Date: 10/22/18 Protection Event Time: 5:02 PM Log File: b9c8ba42-d63d-11e8-b9d0-54bef704d6f7.json -Software Information- Version: 3.6.1.2711 Components Version: 1.0.463 Update Package Version: 1.0.7473 License: Premium -System Information- OS: Windows 10 (Build 17134.345) CPU: x64 File System: NTFS User: System -Exploit Details- File: 0 (No malicious items detected) Exploit: 1 Malware.Exploit.Agent.Generic, , Blocked, [0], [392684],0.0.0 -Exploit Data- Affected Application: Winamp Player Protection Layer: Protection Against OS Security Bypass Protection Technique: Exploit ROP gadget attack blocked File Name: URL: (end) Back to MusicBee

  2. Too bad... by demon+driver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... that in the meantime I've completely moved to Linux, where one thing is surely not missing: decent audio player options.

    1. Re:Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The UIs/UXs for pretty much all Linux distros universally suck.

      Tried Mint+Cinnamon yet?

    2. Re:Too bad... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      KDE FTW!

    3. Re:Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GUIs are for the weak.
      On top of that, they are a waste of CPU cycles.

      Command-line audio players are superior.
      I'd recommend cmus or ncmpcpp.

    4. Re:Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use Audacious with its built-in winamp skin, not identical but comfy enough.
      https://i.imgur.com/JTStmuR.jpg

    5. Re:Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wish I could mod this up. Linux is terrible for multimedia. Linux development is dominated by coders but not designers, so it ends up looking like crap.

    6. Re:Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fortunately, Foobar2000 works just fine.

    7. Re:Too bad... by luther349 · · Score: 1

      vlc

    8. Re:Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XMMP? Bad Linux UI? Dude, 2001 was 17 years ago.

    9. Re:Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just write an mpd client

    10. Re:Too bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It comes with the "refugee" skin, use that if you like it better (looks like XMMS and is closer to Winamp)

    11. Re:Too bad... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      where one thing is surely not missing: decent audio player options.

      Please give us some recommendations as well. I have personally found the media players in Linux to be lacking in various departments. Mind you I don't like Winamp's interface otherwise XMMS may be suitable but what do you actually use that you consider decent?

    12. Re:Too bad... by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      My personal preference would be Audacious.

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    13. Re:Too bad... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Thanks I'll give it a go. I dismissed it early for looking quite ugly.

    14. Re:Too bad... by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      I used it with an xfce desktop. Everything was ugly.

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    15. Re:Too bad... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      hahahah. *tips hat*

  3. My llama's ass has never been so whipped.

  4. How to install Winamp under Linux by najajomo · · Score: 1
    1. Re:How to install Winamp under Linux by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      Didn't the plethora of open-source, and linux players eclipse Winamp's functionality long-ago? Thought so, but I stopped paying attention.

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    2. Re:How to install Winamp under Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You SAY Winamp but the two-year-old instructions say Qmmp. Thank you, but we want to install Winamp 5.8 not Qmmp 0.9.7 (which is now up to version 1.2.3).

    3. Re:How to install Winamp under Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Functionality? Yes.

      Usability? Nope.

      WinAmp works so well because it has a relatively narrow focus, which actually covers the majority of what folks use. It doesn't do 'album art' and only tangentially supports even the most basic of video playback, it's entire purpose for being is audio playback with optional visualizations and a straightforward EQ that has enough bands to be useful for headphone/cheap desktop speaker compensation.

      Most of the alternative players were made to scratch some itch for a section WinAmp didn't handle, or to mimic other commercial players like iTunes at some points.

      WinAmp doesn't cater to audiophiles, it doesn't try to support every new audio format invented for that use and weird esoteric playback rates and techniques. It handles the 80% majority of stuff you can download off the internet and is far more designed to be a secondary 'background' app you usually only interact with to jump over a song you hate, replay a song you love, or go pick a specific song you really want to hear right now.

      A lot of 'modern' players keep missing that part about being a background app with trivially easy playlist adjustment/re-ordering, and focus on nonsense like album art and overlaying lyrics on-screen thinking they'll be the focus while playing a bunch of songs, and worry so much about having 'auto curated' lists based on various metadata tagging that they actively fight you organizing things how you may want.

      - WolfWings, too lazy to login to /. for far more important conversations, let alone this toss-away comment. :)

    4. Re:How to install Winamp under Linux by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      It does do "Album art" Seeing as you obviously know fuckall about winamp.. You should probably rant about things you know more about. And yes I stopped reading there as you're a moron. Open the damn audio library.

    5. Re:How to install Winamp under Linux by Luckyo · · Score: 2

      "I found that one thing that you're sorta, kinda wrong on that is tangential to the whole you're saying and in no way key to it. Therefore you're wrong on everything".

      In reality, this is an admission that you concede the remainder of the points.

    6. Re:How to install Winamp under Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Winamp went to add "library" and "internet" bullshit they also offered a literal Winamp Lite download, which is Winamp 5.x acting like Winamp 2.x. This still includes Internet support in fact (can stream Internet streams, which can be had as an .m3u file as a reference)
      It's true that Album Art is there, as an optional window. Its multi-window way of working is a highlight (like GIMP vs Photoshop in a way)

    7. Re:How to install Winamp under Linux by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      No I just didnt continue reading. I impulsively shit posted and carried on with my day.

  5. Modern Operating Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Modern" operating systems are, literally, Linux and MacOS.
    Microsoft's Windows, any version, isn't one.
    Maybe what you wanted to say was "recent" Windows versions?

    1. Re: Modern Operating Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Winamp (and a lot of other software) not having new releases for Windows for years are the best sign that Windows is dead as a platform.

    2. Re:Modern Operating Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The NT kernel is also modern and in active development. Troll harder.

    3. Re:Modern Operating Systems by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      It is in active development?

      So there IS hope after all?

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    4. Re:Modern Operating Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MacOS hahahanahahaha

    5. Re:Modern Operating Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you referring to ReactOS or the advertising engine wrapped around a kernel known as Windows 10?

    6. Re: Modern Operating Systems by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Didn't that die when Apple was taken over by NeXT?

    7. Re: Modern Operating Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's recent enough to try and transmit all of your data back to Microsoft, just like google does. I'd say that's pretty current.

    8. Re:Modern Operating Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yup. It even has a stable driver ABI. Maybe with Torvalds off trying to get "woke" Linux can start catching up!

    9. Re:Modern Operating Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the Windows has modern UI with 4 color palette and 10 lines of text in a screen at once. Doesn't this count?

    10. Re: Modern Operating Systems by OrangeTide · · Score: 0

      Didn't that die when Apple was taken over by NeXT?

      Basically what we call macOS is a fork of NeXTSTEP. We all knew that the Mac OS X developer preview was really a snapshot of Rhapsody. It delivered on many of the promises made by the years old announcement of the Copland project. The developer preview of OSX proved to some of us that the only possible fix to MacOS System 7 was to throw it away and start over.

      The softwarethat people run on their Apple hardware today (macOS, OSX, iOS) was not technically originally created by Apple engineers, but by engineers that left Apple and joined NeXT in the 1980's and 1990's. Though I don't believe that is all of an important distinction. It should be noted that NeXT had an easier time focusing on making working technology while Apple spun out of control with numerous projects. It's as if Apple forgot how to run a profitable business without Jobs around to kill off stupid side projects.

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    11. Re: Modern Operating Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows is alive and thriving because of how awesome the Win32 platform is. The Linux camp are about to ruin their major distros in the name of achieving Win32 levels of userland ABI stability but without the design needed to make it work properly by forcing Flatpak and Snaps without forcing runtime ABI guarantees meaning apps will use way more RAM on Linux than on Windows, ironically...

      Captcha: Miscarry

      Appropriate description on how ‘modern’ might be a mistake

    12. Re:Modern Operating Systems by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I remember the Slashdot of old where trolling drivel wouldn't be voted Insightful.

      If you're 12 maybe give it a Funny vote. But seriously, people here should grow up a bit. (not the ACs, but rather the moderators).

  6. who cares anymore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it back to the way it was before it sold out? That is light on resources, fast and nice looking? No, well, then foobar2000 still rules.

  7. Still running Winamp 2.95 from 2003 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a bit bloated at 2.36M, but it does an excellent job of playing my mp3 files.

    Winamp 2.95

    1. Re:Still running Winamp 2.95 from 2003 by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      Use the "lite" version if all you want is mp3.

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  8. Clueless troll much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    ffmpeg is the basis for a shitton of decent players.

    For videos, I recommend SMplayer in its classic theme (so it takes the look and feel of the OS, instead of a crutch for Windows).
    Or VLC, if you are that kind of person.

    For music, it's Clementine, if you want somebody to manage the libary for you.
    And DeadBEeeF, if you know how to use a file system and like foobar2000.

    And then there is mpd, music player daemon. Which works, regardleys whether you control it via a full GUI client, your phone, an internal web page, or a script. Aka: How things should be, if it wasn't for those clueless Wintards.

    1. Re:Clueless troll much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope this has plex library integration. Plexamp works but its shitty.

    2. Re: Clueless troll much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol Iâ(TM)m sure thereâ(TM)s an army of people supporting these projects. How many of these are you the only contributor to?

    3. Re:Clueless troll much? by anthk · · Score: 1

      XMMS had LADSPA support before you even got to High School. Kid. That's with XMMS, a lot of media player do that and more just fine.

    4. Re:Clueless troll much? by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

      Winamp afaik was one of the very first clients that allowed you to control it from other programs. DDE I believe it used on windows to begin with and then it also had command line options so you could call it from command line from any program and change song/playlist or a bunch of other options. Really was ahead of its time back in the 90's and early 2000's.

    5. Re:Clueless troll much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      XMMS is old. I had to do special measures like compiling libraries or whatever bullshit to get it running on Debian 5. Then it failed on Russian characters and such issues, so I went back to using Audacious 2.x (today it is Audacious 3.x in "winamp" GUI mode)

    6. Re:Clueless troll much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      vlc is good any media. Any.

  9. Too little, too late. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moved to XMPlay years ago. Never going back.

    1. Re:Too little, too late. by AndyKron · · Score: 1

      I downloaded it. XMPlay is pretty cool. THX

  10. Who's that? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Ya! WinAmp is back! Is DonkeyMesh still around to download stuff?

  11. Also, lots of data-collection and spyware! Thanks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just go with AIMP, it has both replaced and superceded Winamp since long ago. Winamp was good back in the day, but they can no longer catch up from such a long hiatus.

  12. Best music player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out Audacious. It works well on Windows now.

    1. Re:Best music player by Iwastheone · · Score: 1

      Foobar 2000 still fills my mp3 needs. It does what it's supposed to, it plays my mp3 collection. Unless I hear a good reason to switch to the new and improved WinAmp version I'll stick with what works.

    2. Re:Best music player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm so sick of people bringing up Foobar 2000. It sucks ass.

    3. Re:Best music player by Iwastheone · · Score: 1

      I hope you get better, being sick sucks.

    4. Re:Best music player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not sick. You're stupid. Foobar 2000 is shit.

    5. Re:Best music player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Opinions and assholes, everyone's got one.

    6. Re:Best music player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another opinion : Foobar does a ton of shit and giggles. It's objectively better but I'm not sure why I would need 4,000 or 5,000 features. I am happy with Winamp clones. On linux where there's no foobar you have deadbeef as the objectively better Winamp clone, maybe doesn't do tons of shit but has some nice things like "stop playing after current track" and "stop playing after current album" and an excellent EQ GUI, except that time I had not saved my EQ and lost it with a click.

  13. Everything is Too Small by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the first thing that you have to do is to use 'System Enhanced' DPI scaling override for the executable as by default everything is still designed for 800x600 screens :(

    1. Re:Everything is Too Small by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you have a 13" 4K screen (which you shouldn't because that's always been a fucking stupid thing) It's called "double size" mode. CTRL+D, already in the program. Then go into the prefs and increase playlist font size to 14 or so. Drag the player/EQ off to the left and snap them to the left top of the playlist. Expand the playlist down as far as you want. Simple.

  14. Darn!, that visualization is still the best! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    after all this time.

  15. winamp vs open source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what does winamp do that your average open source sound/mp3 player does not?

    1. Re:winamp vs open source by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Simplicity and focus on what user needs at expense of everything else.

  16. You have to agree a License... by martiniturbide · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...that is a dead link: https://www.winamp.com/legal/e.... Also the privacy: https://www.winamp.com/legal/p... Let's hope it get fixed.

    1. Re:You have to agree a License... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You have to agree to a license which is a dead link? Awesome! That means you only have to agree that there was a 404. Document this fact for posterity.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:You have to agree a License... by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      Well in any contract vagueness or mistakes favor the party that didn't write it, so broken EULA = no EULA.

      --
      I browse on +1 so AC's need not respond, I won't see it.
    3. Re: You have to agree a License... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a lawyer, however, this is fine because you donâ(TM)t need an EULA to have a license. If it was supplied to you as-is you have the right to use it privately but not to make any copies or use it publicly. A simple legal example is music CDs which do not usually come with explicit license agreements because itâ(TM)s implied that if the copyright holder distributed a copy to you that you have the personal individual right to use the work.

  17. For anyone interested in a winamp replacement... by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

    ... foobar is a decent option if your needs are just music.

    http://www.foobar2000.org/

  18. Winamp vs Foorbar2000 by CptLoRes · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Quote shamelessly stolen from some webpage, but it says it all.

    What are the best music players for Windows?” foobar2000 is ranked 1st while Winamp is ranked 9th. The most important reason people chose foobar2000 is:

    Foobar2000 has a clean, minimalistic UI, small filesize, and is light on resource usage.

    1. Re:Winamp vs Foorbar2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to say the same - who really cares about Winamp at this point, it was dead for years. We also have foobar2000, and then most of the pack moved to Linux.

      Does anybody still uses Windows at home?!

    2. Re:Winamp vs Foorbar2000 by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

      I love how something is "dead" if continuous updates aren't being done. At some point you are finished. It works as intended. Quit adding shit for the sake of adding shit.

      --
      Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    3. Re: Winamp vs Foorbar2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, I've used Winamp since I was in school. That's almost 20 years! At this point it's the one application I have willingly used for the longest period of time and it still works brilliantly. My only criticism is that flac playback appears to be a little sketchy at times with a track's time signature getting distorted.

    4. Re:Winamp vs Foorbar2000 by xeoron · · Score: 1

      Runs on Windows, and even OSX and Linux with WINE :)

    5. Re:Winamp vs Foorbar2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Foobar is an eyesore

    6. Re:Winamp vs Foorbar2000 by transporter_ii · · Score: 1

      Hopefully Mozilla Foundation employees are in the neighborhood and reading your comments. I would mod you up if I had points at the moment.

      --
      Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, religion destroys spirituality
    7. Re:Winamp vs Foorbar2000 by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      I love how something is "dead" if continuous updates aren't being done. At some point you are finished. It works as intended. Quit adding shit for the sake of adding shit.

      It works as intended, until the OS or a dependency or a standard or some combination of that gets changed and breaks it.

      However, I will agree that it'd be nice if there was a point where a program could announce that it's got all the features in and any future updates will be maintenance updates--and not be considered dead merely because there's not been any need for a while to release any of those because nobody's broken it & there's not been any need to release a bugfix update yet. (Presumably there's always a few bugs, but at some point they'll hopefully all be trivial enough you can't justify releasing a update until it patches several of them.)

    8. Re:Winamp vs Foorbar2000 by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      I love how something is "dead" if continuous updates aren't being done. At some point you are finished. It works as intended. Quit adding shit for the sake of adding shit.

      It works until you have a high DPI display and/or use display scaling, and things go horribly wrong from there. "2x mode" works to make it from impossible to use to barely able to use, but it only scales the main player window by 2x - option windows, equalizer, playlist and other sub windows are still ultra tiny.

  19. New version?? by jrq · · Score: 2
    I'm still running version 2.79 (nullsoft)
    • Stable
    • Easily skinned
    • Takes up 3MB of RAM
    • Plays everything
    • Even streams
    --
    My UID is prime!
    1. Re:New version?? by jargonburn · · Score: 1

      I'd forgotten about skinning....I wonder if I still have my Armitage III and/or Gunnm skins somewhere. Heh.

  20. Streaming radio stations by mrbester · · Score: 2

    I can do that now? Wow, thanks for that incredible addition. I must have been doing something else for at least the last 15 years...

    --
    "Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
  21. Re:my parents watched alex jones (reprint) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who?

  22. Ass-whooping. by Ostracus · · Score: 1

    Be glad they didn't switch to a donkey.

    --
    Shai Schticks:"You don't make peace with friends, you make peace with enemies"
    1. Re:Ass-whooping. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They won't be changing the ass-whipped mammal anytime soon. It's an homage to Wesley Willis, who used to say "it really whips the llama's ass!" in his songs. The only other animal's ass Wesley ever mentioned was a horse, I believe, so it's either the llama's ass or the horse's ass.

    2. Re: Ass-whooping. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The only other animal's ass Wesley ever mentioned was a horse, I believe, so it's either the llama's ass or the horse's ass."

      So you missed "Taste a Camel's Shitty Ass" "Suck a Camel's booryhole" "Suck a Caribou's Ass" and "Suck my Dog's Dick?"

      You need more Wesley Willis in your life!

      Suck My Dog's Dick mentions many asses.

      Lick a camel's ass
      Lick a moose's dick
      Suck my doggie's cock
      Suck a honeybadger's ass

      Suck my dog's dick
      Suck my dog's dick
      Suck my dog's dick
      Suck my dog's dick

      Suck a racehorse's bootyhole
      Suck a snow leopard's ass
      Suck a constipated goat's dick
      Suck my Doberman Pinscher's cock

      Suck my dog's dick (4x)

      Suck a klipspringer's dick
      Suck a llama's balls
      Suck a jackass's dick
      Suck a buffalo's ass, fucking jerk

      Suck my dog's dick (4x)

      Rock over London
      Rock on Chicago
      Goose Island, It's Chicago's Craft Brewer.

  23. Most famous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    the world's most famous media player

    So... Windows Media Player is less famous? VLC? Kodi?

    I don't have a preference really (I use mpv normally), but I'd think "the famous media player" would have been sufficient.

    1. Re:Most famous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WMP and Kodi and VLC all suck ass. The only reason anyone should use VLC is because they're not on Windows where MPC-HC and Winamp aren't available.

  24. Re:For anyone interested in a winamp replacement.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... foobar is a decent option if your needs are just music.

    http://www.foobar2000.org/

    No thanks. Anything called "2000" is crap, we all know that.

  25. Audio distortion by hackertourist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does it still distort the audio if you get close to 100% volume?
    (That was the reason I moved from Winamp to VLC a long time ago)

    1. Re:Audio distortion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you had a hardware problem.

    2. Re:Audio distortion by Nkwe · · Score: 1

      Does it still distort the audio if you get close to 100% volume? (That was the reason I moved from Winamp to VLC a long time ago)

      So with VLC you can get to 110%?

    3. Re:Audio distortion by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      VLC allows you to set the volume to more than 100%, yes. The control goes up to 200%.
      This is useful for very quiet tracks. Distortion doesn't set in until the audio starts clipping because the signal doesn't fit in 16 bits any more.

    4. Re:Audio distortion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have a really good sound card or DAC (doesn't need to be expensive at all) you can have amp or speakers at 100% volume (or some set volume), master volume at 100% and only play with the application software's volume, most of time will be quite below 100%.

    5. Re:Audio distortion by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      Why not just make it louder, but still 100%?

    6. Re:Audio distortion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the way, Cinnamon got a new feature (but I'm not using Cinnamon). You can set what the GUI volume control refers to as "100%". So the new "100%" can be something else, like 80% or 150%. Awesome feature! If you have very weak internal speakers, or very strong external speakers you gotta do something!

      One major reason for me staying with Mate though : I like the volume control that pops from the task bar be vertical not horizontal. This is such a tiny thing, but I would love being given the choice between both. (e.g. horizontal seems better with touchpad, vertical seems better with mouse)

    7. Re:Audio distortion by Nkwe · · Score: 2

      Why not just make it louder, but still 100%?

      These go to 110%

    8. Re:Audio distortion by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      At 100%, there is no attenuation or amplification of the signal in the audio file: the signal gets sent to the OS' audio system unmodified.

    9. Re:Audio distortion by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      In Windows, that's living on the edge. It takes considerable fiddling before you can safely do that: you have to reduce the volume of every sound-capable application to safe levels, otherwise your music will be nice and quiet, but a notification, Windows system sound or (the worst offender of all) an incoming VOIP call will sound like a bomb going off.
      I got so sick and tired of applications doing that, that I bought an external DAC for my headphones, and only VLC gets routed to that DAC. All other sounds go out the default audio path (laptop internal speakers).

  26. Still using 5.666 by DogDude · · Score: 1

    I'm still happily using their last version 5.666 (right now, in fact). Works fine. No Internet connection needed. I'm not aware of any bugs. It's light and easy to use.

    --
    I don't respond to AC's.
  27. Re: Registered /.ers disagree w/ you #2/5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How can you not see the /s?

  28. AIMP by Nieriko · · Score: 1

    Try it.

    I use it in windows and android. Nice design. Easy to use. Light.

    1. Re:AIMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This! Don't know why AIMP isn't recommended (for Win) more in threads like this - perhaps because a very bare bone skin has to be downloaded to get to something like "Classic WinAmp"-feeling.

  29. Re: Registered /.ers disagree w/ you #2/5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Then APK went and posted this spam comment and ran from the criticism he deservedly received. APK also dodged the question and ran when challenged to provide proof of maintaining his house for decades before buying it from his parents for $1, and proof that he spent over $35k in improvements after buying the house for $1. APK probably ran because he lied and no proof exists. He demands proof from others but ran when challenged to provide the same level of proof, which by APK's own standards is evidence of lying.

  30. 2.95 was the best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I loved that version of Winamp. Worked perfectly used very little resources when resources were at a premium and had a great visualizer for the time.

    Honestly though, nowadays, I don't think it has much more to offer compared to VLC and, last I checked, was a resource hog too.

    What does this offer compared to VLC now? If nothing, I would rather they roll their stuff into VLC and create a Winamp skin for it.

  31. So, someone review it... by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    ...and let me know why I'd possibly replace the nice little old winamp that I STILL USE?

    --
    -Styopa
  32. Re:NO, You want others to think that but... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DNS resolution on Linux is done by client libraries, not by the kernel. Your statement about DNS resolution being done in kernel mode is 100% false.

  33. Winamp Lite 5.x by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    was about the same thing and undistinguishable.

    VLC? plays weird games on the playlist, shows less stuff. VLC is good when you have nothing else.
    To merge them is like asking to merge Microsoft Office and Libre Office. Doesn't make sense at all.

  34. MediaMonkey! by execthis · · Score: 1

    I think MediaMonkey is the best music player by far.

    1. Re:MediaMonkey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MediaMonkey is crippleware that isn't anywhere near as powerful or flexible as foobar2000.

  35. Winamp should be open sourced by execthis · · Score: 1

    I think Radionomy should have open sourced Winamp after acquiring it. I really have no interest in it or them anymore.

  36. Is it neccessary anymore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I considered downloading the latest version but then I realized I stream all my music and have no MP3 files anymore..

  37. VLC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use VLC on my Raspberry Pi 3. Good enough!

  38. Switched to AIMP years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The new WinAmp (or even the old) may be useful, but just in case anyone is interested, I switched to AIMP ( see: http://www.aimp.ru/?do=feature... ) years ago and have had no need to look back or consider any other alternatives.

  39. Hosts = a file & gets KERNELMODE cached by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HOSTS is a FILE & KERNELMODE diskcaching subsystems CACHE it - Isn't a Linux DISKCACHE in kernelmode?

    Answer that (stupid IF not).

    Windows' tcpip.sys IS in kernelmode & afaik to direct resolution!

    (Oddly MS learned it on IIS too (http.sys) vs. Apache since latter performed FASTER so current versions for MANY versions of IIS moved that to kernelmode too for BETTER performance).

    IF Linux isn't doing things THAT way for NAME RESOLUTION too (not just Apache webservers) then it ought to be!

    FACT: You get better performance via KERNELMODE drivers (more cpu priority, kernelmode DRIVER driven).

    * YOU TELLING US libc in Linux constantly RE-ACCESSES DISK for HOSTS - not a kernelmode cached hosts OR that Linux's diskcache is NOT in kernelmode?

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts resolver can also be adjusted in priority in Windows https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (& it's default 1st in Win7 OR can be adjusted to be (older NT based OS NetBIOS/LanMan 1st as default over IP stack for networking))... apk

  40. Quit LYING & IMPERSONATING me Jew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I DON'T do a MacOS X one & I don't say hosts cure spectre/meltdown. Start64.com download page would say so.

    Thanks 4 MISTAKES U MADE below!

    APK

    P.S.=> Your Mistakes:

    https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (password & *NIX I account for vs. your lie)

    https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (my code's audited security pros @ MALWAREBYTES who HOSTS/RECOMMEND it)

    https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (hosts = native kernelmode resolver filter in Windows - LINUX diskcache DOES kernelmode cache ref of hosts OR SHOULD https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... & WHY w/ IIS/Apache e.g.)

    https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (you PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH I NEVER SAID "dns is in kernel" hosts = a native RESOLVER is in Windows. Linux partially diskcache - SHOULD ALL BE)

    Hosts = native FASTEST RESOLVER pure kernelmode via IP stack + kernelmode diskcache (no context switch kernelmode FAST vs. SLOW USERMODE security issue riddled Windows dnscache https://blogs.msmvps.com/acefe... faulty w/ large hosts

    1. Re: Quit LYING & IMPERSONATING me Jew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL! You've spent your entire Saturday reposting the same crap on Slashdot. You're a loser.

      Also, I saw the offtopic spam you posted in the "Researchers Secretly Deployed A Bot That Submitted Bug-Fixing Pull Requests" and "Watch What Happens When A Drone Slams Into An Airplane Wing" articles, too.

      Don't you have anything better to do than troll Slashdot?

      You are one useless motherfucker.

    2. Re: Quit LYING & IMPERSONATING me Jew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK defended himself against your lies. I read this end to end and APK did a job on your tech mistake here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

  41. Hey FILTHY LYING JEW: You own a home? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey FILTHY LYING JEW: You own a home fully paid off like mine? PROVE IT - everyone knows I do by now (fully paid off & taxes current).

    You don't troll. Trolls live under BRIDGES (like homeless BUMS do) & so do you.

    * PROVE OTHERWISE as you STALK ME &/or IMPERSONATE me telling LIES galore LIBELING me - loser, let me tell you what: IF I knew where you are? You'd be sorry fucker.

    APK

    P.S.=> HOWEVER: I do get the "last laugh" on your TECHNICAL MISTAKES & LIES on hosts + myself you STUPID little fuck here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & here too https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (you BLEW it stupid, no wonder you post UNIDENTIFAIBLE ANONYMOUS stalking me OR impersonating me, HIDING & you TRY "downmod hide" YOUR CONSTANT DEFEATS vs. me too, lol - I repost, exposing it all, lmao @ U - INEVITABLY RUNNING YOU DRY of "downmodpoints" your effete ineffectual wannabe 'weapon' you ABUSE)... apk

  42. My *NIX models require no password JUDEN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I knew some asswipe would TRY that bs so to save hosts in *NIX the default editor does the saving (e.g. Kate on KDE which you the user can CHANGE to diff. flavors of *NIX shell/app editors via editing APKIniFile.ini on them via the Tools menu, stupid)!

    * LMAO @ U & that "PUNY PLOY" only a CARROT-BRAINED DOUCHE like YOU would effetely try... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Stupid weasel - get 1 thing straight: I'll ALWAYS be 10 moves ahead of do-NOTHING dunces like "your kind" - accept it... apk

  43. Malwarebytes' Steven Burn audited my code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Malwarebytes' Steven Burn audited my code & BOTH hosts + RECOMMENDS it dumbass forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4290 vs. some NO-MIND like YOU that wouldn't know the 1st thing about it!

    * I don't GIVE my work away to NO-MINDS like you either ("OpenSORES" code thieves) so you can either copy it to "claim as your own" OR alter it to make a doppleganger malware (which you MORONS threatened before no less like the PITIFUL "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING CHUMPS you are).

    My code's also VIRUS PROOF (self-checking mathematically down to 1 byte change) upmodded @ CODING FOR DEFCON here in 2005 too no less as good method http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

    APK

    P.S.=> Dozens of REGISTERED /. users (+ 100,000 users worldwide) disagree with you & I posted that too JUST TO BURN YOUR UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS Weezil ass, lol - which YOU DOWNMOD HID like the LOSER you are... apk

  44. Mr. Impersonator of me: Still sore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Impersonator of me: Still buttsore from an ASS-KICKING I gave you here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... on hosts files?

    WHICH YOU STUPIDLY COMPOUNDED AGAIN HERE https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... and perhaps WORSE here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... lol!

    YES, obviously - lol, your "effete revenge" was DOWNMODS I ran you DRY of as always!

    After you tried VAINLY to "downmod" HIDE all of that here & UNDENIABLE https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... LITERALLY (I just reposted to NULLIFY your 'wannabe weapon' NEUTRALIZING it & EXPOSING YOU LOSING to me, lol!).

    APK

    P.S.=> I love it - especially seeing u REDUCED to TRYING to LIE about me (or LIBEL me) as you IMPERSONATE me (proving you WISH you were me, but you're INFERIOR imitation (& just plain INFERIOR on ALL levels))... apk

  45. c6gunner's impersonating me & lying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    c6gunner's impersonating me & lying his name on this post as submitter yet signed "APK" (me) https://linux.slashdot.org/com... !

    * I know you're the SAME JACKASS that's impersonating me too TRYING VAINLY to "make me look bad" when you c6gunner are a DIMWIT DOUCHE mere "ne'er-do-well" MENIAL @ best who I totally DESTROYED both here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your LIES/LIBEL of me + on hosts' technicals https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> Due to you TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH I NEVER SAID (DNS in kernel? I never said that) & YOUR FURTHER STUPIDITY not realizing hosts IS a NATIVE resolver itself (rest was the fact that the top of my hosts resolves faster, safer vs. slow remote DNS that can be DOWN or DNS poisoned & NO DNS TRACKING for fav sites I use, rest are BLOCKED (who cares how 'fast' those are gotten to - I NEVER INTEND TO GET TO THEM, TTL does the rest))... apk

  46. c6gunner's impersonating me & lying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    c6gunner's impersonating me & lying his name on this post as submitter yet signed "APK" (me) https://linux.slashdot.org/com... !

    * I know you're the SAME JACKASS that's impersonating me too TRYING VAINLY to "make me look bad" when you c6gunner are a DIMWIT DOUCHE mere "ne'er-do-well" MENIAL @ best who I totally DESTROYED both here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your LIES/LIBEL of me + on hosts' technicals https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> Due to you TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH I NEVER SAID (DNS in kernel? I never said that) & YOUR FURTHER STUPIDITY not realizing hosts IS a NATIVE resolver itself (rest was the fact that the top of my hosts resolves faster, safer vs. slow remote DNS that can be DOWN or DNS poisoned & NO DNS TRACKING for fav sites I use, rest are BLOCKED (who cares how 'fast' those are gotten to - I NEVER INTEND TO GET TO THEM, TTL does the rest))... apk

  47. Re: No foobar LOOKS LIKE SHIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simply acting like a stupid Anerican and saying "no it doesnt" isnt an argument. Moran.

  48. c6gunner's impersonating me & lying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    c6gunner's impersonating me & lying his name on this post as submitter yet signed "APK" (me) https://linux.slashdot.org/com... !

    * I know you're the SAME JACKASS that's impersonating me too TRYING VAINLY to "make me look bad" when you c6gunner are a DIMWIT DOUCHE mere "ne'er-do-well" MENIAL @ best who I totally DESTROYED both here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... vs. your LIES/LIBEL of me + on hosts' technicals https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> Due to you TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH I NEVER SAID (DNS in kernel? I never said that) & YOUR FURTHER STUPIDITY not realizing hosts IS a NATIVE resolver itself (rest was the fact that the top of my hosts resolves faster, safer vs. slow remote DNS that can be DOWN or DNS poisoned & NO DNS TRACKING for fav sites I use, rest are BLOCKED (who cares how 'fast' those are gotten to - I NEVER INTEND TO GET TO THEM, TTL does the rest))... apk

  49. Some of us aren't as cool as you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The population as a whole doesn't care about hording digital music files anymore and pays for a music service that has 99% of what they are looking for.

    Exactly. The entire human race is a hive mind that all shares the same behavior and preferences. Since you don't listen to CDs or downloaded music, therefor nobody else does.

    I might as well delete the thousands of FLAC files I've bought from Bandcamp. It's no longer cool to listen to downloaded music, I can only stream it now.

  50. Re:Mr. Impersonator of me: Still sore? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK is buttsore from fisting his own asshole and getting pounded by his roommate's BBC in his $1 house.

  51. Re: No foobar LOOKS LIKE SHIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moran.

    Nice. You owned yourself for me.

  52. It's a leaked beta that was made official. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    It's now officially sanctioned, but it's still a beta. I have previously been shouted down for proposing stories of beta releases -- "we aren't interested in unstable releases", I was told. Why is this one different?

    --
    How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
  53. You pounded your own ass troll w/ proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You pounded your own ass troll w/ proof of your HUGE fuckup vs. me here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & YOU TRIED TO "hide it" via 'downmodpoints' you ABUSE too, lol!

    (Which ordinarily I'd repost it to RUN YOU DRY of your "downmodpoints" making them useless & EFFETE vs. that from 'yours truly' BUT I want it SHOWN you have to try "HIDE" your defeats & blunders vs. me).

    APK

    P.S.=> You LOSE, loser (& you KNOW it IF that's the "best ya got" vs. what's in that link above (your SELF-defeat, lol))... apk