Nitpick: A monopoly is a free market condition. It's also the stable state of a free market, competition is an inherently unstable state. What you are talking about are "perfect market" conditions. A perfect market (competition) is different from a free market (lack of all regulation).
The public pays for research, receives $0 as a result
False. They receive the research outcomes as a result. Often behind a paywall journal, but sometimes even that is available for free. You get what you pay for. Go ahead and monetise. It's there for your taking for a small subscription fee to a journal.
If you're expecting actual dollars in return I suggest you never spend any money ever on anything... other than gold and then hope the price of gold increases.
Oh I know my history. I am just laughing that you think this has anything to do with the political system at play and even more so that you think that you are immune to it.
In case you were asking legitimately the "Is there any evidence the sky looks blue" kind of question, then I have this link here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...
I'm sorry I must apologise I didn't give your comment the reply it deserved. Let me try again.
Except that the marketing is aimed at getting new people
Yeah and? You asked why nicotine is in there. Why are you now blabbering on about marketing other than drastically moving goalposts after the ball has already been netted?
getting new people into that truly filthy and medically self destructive habit
Except there's nothing filthy of medically self destructive about the new habit. So way you either missed the point, or never understood what you're talking about in the first place.
In this case, cigarettes hardly ever get fruit flavouring
Absolute horseshit. Flavoured cigarettes were produced by every manufacturer and are still available from many. Can I recommend a Camel Spiced Crema? It is nice and fruity according to the package, or maybe you're more of a Camel Margarita Mixer kind of a person.
and the argument about helping them drop the habit is pure bullshit
Sure if you ignore all the studies of people quitting altogether, the studies showing how e-cigarettes primarily offset actual cigarette smokers, and the advice from doctors, quit lines, and governments who are actively using e-cigarettes as an already proven method to help people quit then yeah I imagine you would think it's bullshit. You could also ignore some more deeper studies that show people who have switched from cigarettes to e-cigarettes are far more likely to succeed quitting when they try and far more likely to try too. But ignorance is bliss, and if you think you're not totally ignorant on the topic may I suggest you do a google search and then get your brain scanned for tumors.
There now I think this reply far better addresses the content of your post.
I'm arguing that there is no value paid back when the fruits of public research are privatized
Except the results are rarely if ever privatised without actual publication of the science first. You seem to misunderstand exactly what is happening. Once published the researchers sometimes spin-off a company with their discovery which may or may not get bought by someone else. You don't get any less for your money as a result.
What you DO get is someone actively promoting a product rather than a throwaway research paper that will gather dust in the annals of scientific history.
Furthermore, the parliamentary system in Europe has resulted in numerous extremists and dictators taking over, foremost Hitler; people like that have no chance under the US system.
They won't. They will do far worse... errr already have done far worse. Their attempts to exert control over the internet have already earned them a long and detailed wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Given that EU proposals are up to member nations to implement Brexit still looks like taking a sledge hammer to a delicate item best served with a jewlers hammer.
The result is already demonstrably worse for the UK than this (or any other) proposal is for the EU. Yes Brexit still looks every bit as shit, and won't look any less shit because of one crappy EU proposal.... especially given what the UK bureaucracy is able to come up with by itself.
He didn't get that iPad or its battery for free, he paid money for it. There is no hidden value in technology.
He was able to pay money for it. Now just imagine what he would have paid had each manufacturer had to independently R&D that product and lock it up under patents.
In the mean time the fundamental research for the product he is using is published for all to read. Can you say the same about any private R&D short of reading convoluted patents?
It's really baffling that these e-cigarettes have nicotine in the first place.
No it's not. The idea of the product was seen as a way of weening people off actual cigarette use. To achieve that they need to get the withdrawal problems under control and to create a "healthier" alternative without fighting underlying addiction the nicotine needs to be part of the product. If you want to quit there actual options for liquids whereby you can slowly reduce the nicotine content over time with the same flavour you vape, and there are also nicotine free options readily available.
What you see as nefarious I see as an excellent way to get people to finally quit a truly filthy and medically self destructive habit.
Kids these days have it right. txting is far more efficient.... Unless you're my mother... Or one of those people who types "Please tell me what the current population of New York is." as a Google search.
The only way the experiment will yield anything close to credible results is for the "basic income" to be self funded.
Basic Income will never yield credible results and will always need external funding. The problem is that the only way to self fund Basic Income is to provide it Universally. UBI allows the funding source to come from the closing of all the other government social services. BI does not allow this as it is not applied universally to everyone under the care of the government.
It is doomed to fail. It is also nothing to do with UBI.
Didn't most of the basic income projects fail, and this says the government wouldn't be able to fund it?!
Yes they do. Basic Income will always fail. Only Universal Basic Income has a hope of succeeding as funding for such a program would depend on shutting down all other government social security services. If you only apply BI rather than UBI you need to keep all the other programs running too, hence extra funding is required.
UBI is self funding. But this isn't UBI. This is just another social security program applied non-universally and specifically to one group. Unless you can shutdown the other social programs the government runs and close the relevant departments the funding doesn't exist.
This is a fundamental problem with a trial of UBI. The funding from UBI is supposed to come from the complete offsetting and dismantling of all other social services. Obviously this is not possible to do during a "trial" and not possible to do if you apply BI i.e. Not "Universal" since not everyone under the care of a government gets it.
No doubt this will fail and everyone will point this farce of a trial as another example, however unrelated it would be, of the failure of UBI.
It's best not to put emphasis around anything that is demonstrably wrong. Unless you think speakers move through the motive force of hopes and dreams rather than electrical power.
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we can't allow free market conditions.
Nitpick: A monopoly is a free market condition. It's also the stable state of a free market, competition is an inherently unstable state. What you are talking about are "perfect market" conditions. A perfect market (competition) is different from a free market (lack of all regulation).
Wow they don't triage in America? It's worse than we all thought!
Something actually immoral, would be to take pleasure in the suffering of others.
Well I'm going to hell for subscribing to Today's Big Fail on youtube... and laughing.
The public pays for research, receives $0 as a result
False. They receive the research outcomes as a result. Often behind a paywall journal, but sometimes even that is available for free. You get what you pay for. Go ahead and monetise. It's there for your taking for a small subscription fee to a journal.
If you're expecting actual dollars in return I suggest you never spend any money ever on anything ... other than gold and then hope the price of gold increases.
Oh I know my history. I am just laughing that you think this has anything to do with the political system at play and even more so that you think that you are immune to it.
Is there any evidence that nicotine is addictive?
Are you special?
In case you were asking legitimately the "Is there any evidence the sky looks blue" kind of question, then I have this link here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...
Let me also know if you think the world is flat.
I'm sorry I must apologise I didn't give your comment the reply it deserved. Let me try again.
Except that the marketing is aimed at getting new people
Yeah and? You asked why nicotine is in there. Why are you now blabbering on about marketing other than drastically moving goalposts after the ball has already been netted?
getting new people into that truly filthy and medically self destructive habit
Except there's nothing filthy of medically self destructive about the new habit. So way you either missed the point, or never understood what you're talking about in the first place.
In this case, cigarettes hardly ever get fruit flavouring
Absolute horseshit. Flavoured cigarettes were produced by every manufacturer and are still available from many. Can I recommend a Camel Spiced Crema? It is nice and fruity according to the package, or maybe you're more of a Camel Margarita Mixer kind of a person.
and the argument about helping them drop the habit is pure bullshit
Sure if you ignore all the studies of people quitting altogether, the studies showing how e-cigarettes primarily offset actual cigarette smokers, and the advice from doctors, quit lines, and governments who are actively using e-cigarettes as an already proven method to help people quit then yeah I imagine you would think it's bullshit. You could also ignore some more deeper studies that show people who have switched from cigarettes to e-cigarettes are far more likely to succeed quitting when they try and far more likely to try too. But ignorance is bliss, and if you think you're not totally ignorant on the topic may I suggest you do a google search and then get your brain scanned for tumors.
There now I think this reply far better addresses the content of your post.
Except that the marketing is aimed at getting new people
Cool story. Nothing at all to do with my direct reply on why nicotine is there in the first place.
I'm arguing that there is no value paid back when the fruits of public research are privatized
Except the results are rarely if ever privatised without actual publication of the science first. You seem to misunderstand exactly what is happening. Once published the researchers sometimes spin-off a company with their discovery which may or may not get bought by someone else. You don't get any less for your money as a result.
What you DO get is someone actively promoting a product rather than a throwaway research paper that will gather dust in the annals of scientific history.
It basically destroyed the emerging UAV & FPV market and the industry in the EU countries.
Thank god. There's so many of the things flying around as it is I don't think I would be able to see the sun anymore if it handn't been "destroyed".
Furthermore, the parliamentary system in Europe has resulted in numerous extremists and dictators taking over, foremost Hitler; people like that have no chance under the US system.
ahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahha
They won't. They will do far worse... errr already have done far worse. Their attempts to exert control over the internet have already earned them a long and detailed wikipedia page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
And the EU thanks you for the contract to produce those new passports.
...suddenly doesn't look quite so bad, does it?
Given that EU proposals are up to member nations to implement Brexit still looks like taking a sledge hammer to a delicate item best served with a jewlers hammer.
The result is already demonstrably worse for the UK than this (or any other) proposal is for the EU. Yes Brexit still looks every bit as shit, and won't look any less shit because of one crappy EU proposal.... especially given what the UK bureaucracy is able to come up with by itself.
He didn't get that iPad or its battery for free, he paid money for it. There is no hidden value in technology.
He was able to pay money for it. Now just imagine what he would have paid had each manufacturer had to independently R&D that product and lock it up under patents.
In the mean time the fundamental research for the product he is using is published for all to read. Can you say the same about any private R&D short of reading convoluted patents?
It's really baffling that these e-cigarettes have nicotine in the first place.
No it's not. The idea of the product was seen as a way of weening people off actual cigarette use. To achieve that they need to get the withdrawal problems under control and to create a "healthier" alternative without fighting underlying addiction the nicotine needs to be part of the product. If you want to quit there actual options for liquids whereby you can slowly reduce the nicotine content over time with the same flavour you vape, and there are also nicotine free options readily available.
What you see as nefarious I see as an excellent way to get people to finally quit a truly filthy and medically self destructive habit.
When do we get reimbursed?
Did you post this from your iPad made possible by the developments and R&D from Universities? You get paid by availability not directly.
Yay Socialism.
Kids these days have it right. txting is far more efficient.... Unless you're my mother... Or one of those people who types "Please tell me what the current population of New York is." as a Google search.
Yes, one owns a TV station dedicated to showing how much more awesome Putin is.
He only earns $500k per month. He doesn't have enough to hire a team. /sarcasm
The only way the experiment will yield anything close to credible results is for the "basic income" to be self funded.
Basic Income will never yield credible results and will always need external funding. The problem is that the only way to self fund Basic Income is to provide it Universally. UBI allows the funding source to come from the closing of all the other government social services. BI does not allow this as it is not applied universally to everyone under the care of the government.
It is doomed to fail.
It is also nothing to do with UBI.
Didn't most of the basic income projects fail, and this says the government wouldn't be able to fund it?!
Yes they do. Basic Income will always fail. Only Universal Basic Income has a hope of succeeding as funding for such a program would depend on shutting down all other government social security services. If you only apply BI rather than UBI you need to keep all the other programs running too, hence extra funding is required.
UBI is self funding. But this isn't UBI. This is just another social security program applied non-universally and specifically to one group. Unless you can shutdown the other social programs the government runs and close the relevant departments the funding doesn't exist.
This is a fundamental problem with a trial of UBI. The funding from UBI is supposed to come from the complete offsetting and dismantling of all other social services. Obviously this is not possible to do during a "trial" and not possible to do if you apply BI i.e. Not "Universal" since not everyone under the care of a government gets it.
No doubt this will fail and everyone will point this farce of a trial as another example, however unrelated it would be, of the failure of UBI.
and doesn't use *any* battery power.
It's best not to put emphasis around anything that is demonstrably wrong. Unless you think speakers move through the motive force of hopes and dreams rather than electrical power.