Turned out Samsung was killing it. They whitelist their own SMS app, of course.
Samsung doesn't kill any app without telling you it did so, and giving you the option to white list it. Let me guess, you saw a notification and blocked it straight away so your phone wouldn't bug you with such pesky things?
In some countries they require women to wear burkas so American Airlines is planning this for all their female stewardesses and pilots world-wide?
Companies abide by the rules set out by the destination country in which they operate and fight them on legal grounds. There are plenty of countries that require women to wear burkas, there are very few (or rather none that I know about or could find in a quick google) that require foreigners to do so in airports.
There are also plenty of airlines around the world that require their staff to wear appropriate dress at the destination e.g. In the news nowish is Air France fighting with it's union (like it always does) about requiring women to wear headscarves when the destination is Iran.
I would posit, that these first FF mirrorless cameras, are not going to be coming out cheap for "the masses".
Of course not. These will be priced outside of the dwindling consumer market. I didn't mean to describe common every day shooters. I meant to describe slightly less common every day enthusiasts. There's a shitload of people out there with full frame cameras who have never made a dime off photography, and an even larger group who hobby with the occasional job (like me).
We'll see where it goes, but I doubt we'll see a proper professional targetted with these cameras.
I wonder if it would make sense for Nikon/Canon to put out at least 2 different form factors of the bodies
Doesn't the Nikon 1 series and the EOS M series already qualify for the consumer market here?
Didn't mean to come across as attacky to you, but rather the notion that it is as easy as your post made out.
I fully agree that in the core function open tools work well. I myself use and recommend LibreOffice and I have in the past 5 years not had a single compatibility issue with MS Office documents. But that isn't why my corporation keeps MS Office around.
A lot of places run and are sold on "ecosystems". MS Office on its own I see as no better than Libre Office. However MS Office combined with Sharepoint, combined with Lync/Teams, well that's a feature set without compare or compatibility in the Linux world. Not necessarily a good feature set, but then I'm not the one making purchasing decisions, "I just work here man".:-)
Companies could embrace Linux, but it will be an uphill battle against the MS marketing monster, especially when they come across with discounts. MS sells on complete vertical integration and control over the entire office experience. In order to use Linux you need to reduce MS from that, to pieces of software to achieve a task.
Again, marketing battle, and a hard one at that. Linux doesn't have cool buzzwords.
I would hardly say better late than never. As you said there's only one other manufactruer producing FF mirrorless cameras. As for the general mirrorless cameras with interchangable lenses, Nikon has been in that business for 7 years already. They certainly weren't late nor the last in that market either.
In fact one could argue they entered precisely around the point where reading sensors continuously and displaying the image to the user stopped being such a massive compromise in quality. Even the 4/3rds system prior to 2010 left a lot to be desired compared to their mirrored counterparts.
the form factor and ergonomics of this size and form of camera works when shooting most events I shoot
Events.... You're not the target market.
Or rather your events are not the target market. I too have a large bulky FF DSLR that I use for "events" (In my case weddings and racing photography). But boy am I looking for something else to avoid having to take that with me on holidays.
FF mirrorless cameras are not there for your battle. They are there for those who actually prefer having something small without sacraficing quality to get it.
And for lenses....well, I guess an adaptor would work, but not the optimum choice.
Of course they are not the optimum choice. What they are is a tool to provide optimum choice, especially when a specific lens isn't available to suit your formfactor. Excpect Nikon / Canon to launch their cameras with maybe 2-4 lenses and an adapter. Expect things like fisheyes, ultra long focals, a wide selection of fixed wide aperature lenses to take a while to develop. Expect to be thankful for the adapter so you don't need to invest in what would otherwise be a completely incompatible camera system.
Why not make a mount that accepts your current lenses natively (in my case, EF)
For the same reason why they are attempting to remove the mirror in the first place. By bringing the lense closer to the sensor plane it allows you to optimise a lot about the size and quality of the lens. It is the reason why micro versions of typical lenses (e.g. micro4/3rds vs 4/3rds) are smaller physically and have the better edge to edge sharpness,... typically anyway. Unfortunately changing this distance makes the resulting lens incompatible without... an adapter.
but I hope they do it right for the pro level
The pro level is not the target market. Expect something that may come close in image quality to their DSLR counterparts in the same price range, but expect them to come up short in both features and price from the top of the line cameras.
the concept of making a vegetarian burger taste more like meat only strikes feelings of "eww, gross" in me.
Why? Do you hate meat because of the taste or because you associate it with meat? Meat has an incredibly diverse and wonderful mix of flavours across many animals, so really to lump them together under "tastes like meat" sounds like the latter to me.
It's sad denying such a diverse palate of flavours because of some percieved association.
No, they do it because that's how they were raised. People's "tastes" form at a young age.
I can see you've never had kids. Adult's tastes are incredibly different to children's. I was a super fussy eater, hated spinach, and couldn't stomach anything that came from the sea, not to mention the usual didn't eat my fruit and veg. Now... well my weekend breakfast usually includes smoked salmon stacked on wilted fried spinach because it's frigging delicious.
My young self wouldn't have ever considered it. Neither would my teenage self, or my university self for that matter.
Nope. Gorillas have massive canines but they never eat meat.
Evoltuion takes a similar solution to multiple problems. Eating meat is one thing, to do that you gotta kill it first. A gorilla on the other hand uses their canines to grab and snap branches.
That doesn't change the fact that 99% of animals out there use them for holding onto that juicy animal they just bit.
Everyone is qualified to enter, and my point is that EVERYONE should be part of a poll, so asking a bunch of people on Slashdot will yield very different data with a very different set of outliers.
Not at all. Your corporate PTB gave you the choice of Linux, that is incredibly rare. Your biggest problem is Skype for business? That's cute. I can only conclude your corporation isn't anywhere nearly as heavily windows shopped as most.
On the other hand my corporate laptop is managed centrally through Office365, I literally change my domain password through an MS account, I edit documents in realtime with multiple people via Sharepoint, a feature that only Office has, Skype for business... that's very 2015, we're migrating the entire infrastructure over to MS Teams, and that's before we say anything about Outlook as a desktop app having no equal, not on Linux and definitely not the abomination of Outlook 365.
Linux in the corporate world for nearly all users is a pipe dream due to the MS stranglehold.
Linux would be a fine choice on the desktop for common users, but many power users especially users of Adobe's Creative Suite, or other specific applications will be left out (the reason I don't run it on my desktop, and poor pen support is why I don't run it on my laptop).
Would the result here not be a higher cost of product to retailer
Price fixing regulations don't focus just on consumers despite what we often read about. It is just as much about not screwing the retailer. This action here hasn't at all been about consumers or the prices we pay.
Oh gee, I guess I was doing the wrong thing, I should change.
Yeah the EU doesn't have a great track record of getting Microsoft to produce a special version of Windows, or getting Facebook to change their data options presented to users, or getting Google to announce they are changing their model for Android if they don't win an appeal.
Oh wait, that's right, pretty much all companies eventually fold when they realised that unlike the USA, EU laws and regulators have teeth.
Putting repeat fines (we usually call them taxes, but...) on business *does discourage business*.
Well business are very much welcome to shut up shop and move away from a market that covers close to 1/3rd of the wealthy western world.
This has nothing whatever to do with consumer protection.
Fines given out specifically for violating consumer protection law are nothing to do with consumer protection? That's some next level thinking right there. What's your poison, THC? LSD?
Sure but make sure to include normal users in your Poll. Running a Poll on Slashdot on this topic is the very definition of shouting into an echo chamber.
Slashdot users are NOT normal, despite what we think.
Horseshit. The average user doesn't play AAA FPS shooters on a laptop, but they most definitely use their laptop for casual gaming. And even casual games quickly hit the limits.
My luddite sister plays Sims on her laptop. My girlfriend Sim city.... actually now that I think about it I have weird company:)
And only one example. Actually you'll hit it anytime you peg the CPU for more than 15-20seconds. Mind you you won't hit it editing a word document or posting crap on the internet, but then you didn't buy a Core i9 for that either did you.
The spec was Intel's fault. Releasing a laptop to the public without as much as a simple performance test is very much Apple's fault any way you cut it.
Intel's API, not Intel's code. The limits and thermal properties are set entirely by the vendor, not by Intel. Intel provide the chip and the specs and it's up to the vendor to provide the power and thermal solutions, and to set any limits as a result.
One of the example fixes that has been published had nothing to do with fans as much as it had to do with limits imposed on the CPU management being setup incorrectly compared to the actual design of the thermal management leading to the CPU to not actually thermally throttle but to engage the power limit throttle despite having current and thermal capacity to spare.
I wouldn't read too much into Apple's official statement in that it looks like it is deliberately dumbed down for consumption by the media.
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Turned out Samsung was killing it. They whitelist their own SMS app, of course.
Samsung doesn't kill any app without telling you it did so, and giving you the option to white list it. Let me guess, you saw a notification and blocked it straight away so your phone wouldn't bug you with such pesky things?
In some countries they require women to wear burkas so American Airlines is planning this for all their female stewardesses and pilots world-wide?
Companies abide by the rules set out by the destination country in which they operate and fight them on legal grounds. There are plenty of countries that require women to wear burkas, there are very few (or rather none that I know about or could find in a quick google) that require foreigners to do so in airports.
There are also plenty of airlines around the world that require their staff to wear appropriate dress at the destination e.g. In the news nowish is Air France fighting with it's union (like it always does) about requiring women to wear headscarves when the destination is Iran.
I would posit, that these first FF mirrorless cameras, are not going to be coming out cheap for "the masses".
Of course not. These will be priced outside of the dwindling consumer market. I didn't mean to describe common every day shooters. I meant to describe slightly less common every day enthusiasts. There's a shitload of people out there with full frame cameras who have never made a dime off photography, and an even larger group who hobby with the occasional job (like me).
We'll see where it goes, but I doubt we'll see a proper professional targetted with these cameras.
I wonder if it would make sense for Nikon/Canon to put out at least 2 different form factors of the bodies
Doesn't the Nikon 1 series and the EOS M series already qualify for the consumer market here?
Didn't mean to come across as attacky to you, but rather the notion that it is as easy as your post made out.
I fully agree that in the core function open tools work well. I myself use and recommend LibreOffice and I have in the past 5 years not had a single compatibility issue with MS Office documents. But that isn't why my corporation keeps MS Office around.
A lot of places run and are sold on "ecosystems". MS Office on its own I see as no better than Libre Office. However MS Office combined with Sharepoint, combined with Lync/Teams, well that's a feature set without compare or compatibility in the Linux world. Not necessarily a good feature set, but then I'm not the one making purchasing decisions, "I just work here man". :-)
Companies could embrace Linux, but it will be an uphill battle against the MS marketing monster, especially when they come across with discounts. MS sells on complete vertical integration and control over the entire office experience. In order to use Linux you need to reduce MS from that, to pieces of software to achieve a task.
Again, marketing battle, and a hard one at that. Linux doesn't have cool buzzwords.
I would hardly say better late than never. As you said there's only one other manufactruer producing FF mirrorless cameras. As for the general mirrorless cameras with interchangable lenses, Nikon has been in that business for 7 years already. They certainly weren't late nor the last in that market either.
In fact one could argue they entered precisely around the point where reading sensors continuously and displaying the image to the user stopped being such a massive compromise in quality. Even the 4/3rds system prior to 2010 left a lot to be desired compared to their mirrored counterparts.
the form factor and ergonomics of this size and form of camera works when shooting most events I shoot
Events .... You're not the target market.
Or rather your events are not the target market. I too have a large bulky FF DSLR that I use for "events" (In my case weddings and racing photography). But boy am I looking for something else to avoid having to take that with me on holidays.
FF mirrorless cameras are not there for your battle. They are there for those who actually prefer having something small without sacraficing quality to get it.
And for lenses....well, I guess an adaptor would work, but not the optimum choice.
Of course they are not the optimum choice. What they are is a tool to provide optimum choice, especially when a specific lens isn't available to suit your formfactor.
Excpect Nikon / Canon to launch their cameras with maybe 2-4 lenses and an adapter. Expect things like fisheyes, ultra long focals, a wide selection of fixed wide aperature lenses to take a while to develop. Expect to be thankful for the adapter so you don't need to invest in what would otherwise be a completely incompatible camera system.
Why not make a mount that accepts your current lenses natively (in my case, EF)
For the same reason why they are attempting to remove the mirror in the first place. By bringing the lense closer to the sensor plane it allows you to optimise a lot about the size and quality of the lens. It is the reason why micro versions of typical lenses (e.g. micro4/3rds vs 4/3rds) are smaller physically and have the better edge to edge sharpness, ... typically anyway. Unfortunately changing this distance makes the resulting lens incompatible without ... an adapter.
but I hope they do it right for the pro level
The pro level is not the target market. Expect something that may come close in image quality to their DSLR counterparts in the same price range, but expect them to come up short in both features and price from the top of the line cameras.
I think the concept of a paragraph has just been murdered.
the concept of making a vegetarian burger taste more like meat only strikes feelings of "eww, gross" in me.
Why? Do you hate meat because of the taste or because you associate it with meat? Meat has an incredibly diverse and wonderful mix of flavours across many animals, so really to lump them together under "tastes like meat" sounds like the latter to me.
It's sad denying such a diverse palate of flavours because of some percieved association.
No, they do it because that's how they were raised. People's "tastes" form at a young age.
I can see you've never had kids. Adult's tastes are incredibly different to children's. I was a super fussy eater, hated spinach, and couldn't stomach anything that came from the sea, not to mention the usual didn't eat my fruit and veg. Now ... well my weekend breakfast usually includes smoked salmon stacked on wilted fried spinach because it's frigging delicious.
My young self wouldn't have ever considered it. Neither would my teenage self, or my university self for that matter.
Nope. Gorillas have massive canines but they never eat meat.
Evoltuion takes a similar solution to multiple problems. Eating meat is one thing, to do that you gotta kill it first. A gorilla on the other hand uses their canines to grab and snap branches.
That doesn't change the fact that 99% of animals out there use them for holding onto that juicy animal they just bit.
You do you man, you do you.
Everyone is qualified to enter, and my point is that EVERYONE should be part of a poll, so asking a bunch of people on Slashdot will yield very different data with a very different set of outliers.
Still will be released faster than GNU Hurd.
IMO - unless you're a hardcore Windows gamer
Not at all. Your corporate PTB gave you the choice of Linux, that is incredibly rare. Your biggest problem is Skype for business? That's cute. I can only conclude your corporation isn't anywhere nearly as heavily windows shopped as most.
On the other hand my corporate laptop is managed centrally through Office365, I literally change my domain password through an MS account, I edit documents in realtime with multiple people via Sharepoint, a feature that only Office has, Skype for business... that's very 2015, we're migrating the entire infrastructure over to MS Teams, and that's before we say anything about Outlook as a desktop app having no equal, not on Linux and definitely not the abomination of Outlook 365.
Linux in the corporate world for nearly all users is a pipe dream due to the MS stranglehold.
Linux would be a fine choice on the desktop for common users, but many power users especially users of Adobe's Creative Suite, or other specific applications will be left out (the reason I don't run it on my desktop, and poor pen support is why I don't run it on my laptop).
Would the result here not be a higher cost of product to retailer
Price fixing regulations don't focus just on consumers despite what we often read about. It is just as much about not screwing the retailer. This action here hasn't at all been about consumers or the prices we pay.
Oh gee, I guess I was doing the wrong thing, I should change.
Yeah the EU doesn't have a great track record of getting Microsoft to produce a special version of Windows, or getting Facebook to change their data options presented to users, or getting Google to announce they are changing their model for Android if they don't win an appeal.
Oh wait, that's right, pretty much all companies eventually fold when they realised that unlike the USA, EU laws and regulators have teeth.
Putting repeat fines (we usually call them taxes, but...) on business *does discourage business*.
Well business are very much welcome to shut up shop and move away from a market that covers close to 1/3rd of the wealthy western world.
This has nothing whatever to do with consumer protection.
Fines given out specifically for violating consumer protection law are nothing to do with consumer protection? That's some next level thinking right there. What's your poison, THC? LSD?
I hate double posting but this needs addressing too:
Ok? 8GBs is NOT enough?!? For a goddamn phone OS?!?
8GB is more than enough for a phone. Unfortunately I stopped using a Phone in 2005 and started carrying a computer in my pocket.
How about we stop this bloating of software?
One man's bloat is another man's killer feature. Why would you get to decide what the application should do for me?
If you want to do that, write your own software.
Sure but make sure to include normal users in your Poll. Running a Poll on Slashdot on this topic is the very definition of shouting into an echo chamber.
Slashdot users are NOT normal, despite what we think.
The average user does NOT play games.
Horseshit. The average user doesn't play AAA FPS shooters on a laptop, but they most definitely use their laptop for casual gaming. And even casual games quickly hit the limits.
My luddite sister plays Sims on her laptop. ... actually now that I think about it I have weird company :)
My girlfriend Sim city.
And only one example. Actually you'll hit it anytime you peg the CPU for more than 15-20seconds. Mind you you won't hit it editing a word document or posting crap on the internet, but then you didn't buy a Core i9 for that either did you.
It was actually Intel's fault.
The spec was Intel's fault. Releasing a laptop to the public without as much as a simple performance test is very much Apple's fault any way you cut it.
Intel's API, not Intel's code. The limits and thermal properties are set entirely by the vendor, not by Intel. Intel provide the chip and the specs and it's up to the vendor to provide the power and thermal solutions, and to set any limits as a result.
One of the example fixes that has been published had nothing to do with fans as much as it had to do with limits imposed on the CPU management being setup incorrectly compared to the actual design of the thermal management leading to the CPU to not actually thermally throttle but to engage the power limit throttle despite having current and thermal capacity to spare.
I wouldn't read too much into Apple's official statement in that it looks like it is deliberately dumbed down for consumption by the media.