This isn't even Google stopping people. It's google stopping companies and pirates. Individual people can happily register their Android ID with Google and all the Play Apps work just fine.
The 99.9% of people in the west who just buy a normal phone off the shelf and arne't affected? The 0.1% of people who flash their custom ROM and simply need to register their android ID with Google to remain unaffected?
Or maybe you think Google's core fanbase is the Chinese phone makers marketing Android devices for which they don't play by the rules every other Android manufacturer must follow?
No he doesn't, because those people are able to run the apps just fine, they only need to submit their Android ID to Google and the warning note even provides a link for them to do it.
Most of the world's farmland is so "broken" that the problem in most countries is people getting fat.
Obesity has very little to do with how much farming we produce. Hell if we had more farm and people ate more products from said farms we may not be so fat. And I appreciate the irony of saying this while chowing down on some deep fried processed shit for lunch.
The people screaming for investigations had no problem with Democrats using FB data for election demographics purposes
The people making this claim don't see some very big and critical differences between the two cases, not the least of which involves a lack of foreign 3rd party entities influencing elections in the democrat's case. The only people who think this is about Facebook itself are those who have a partisan axe to grind.
Hint: It wasn't Facebook's headquarters that was raided.
How many businesses could lose $100 billion dollars and still be operating?
How many businesses have 1/4 of the population of the entire world as their user base?
Don't underestimate the sheer monster that Facebook has become, and based on what we know about how much information they have on us is that value really so surprising?
That's without getting into any discussion about what Sharemarket value actually means for a business (hint: nothing, during the GOM oil spill BP was valued by shareholders as less than the cost of the assets + oil sitting in storage which is absurd for a company that had healthy cashflow)
Knowing all that, would you loan someone $100,000+? Even a mortgage means the bank has something to secure the loan.
Simple answer is you wouldn't and why would you need to? What kind of a person can't start their life out of university without a $100000 loan? Hell I did it with $5k and a $600 car to my name. Talk of loans and mortgages weren't even considered until a few years after I started working.
Horseshit. Minimum certifications in order to enter the job market isn't speculation. Your idea that somehow the job market will allow people without these certifications to enter is... well that isn't speculation either, that is wishful thinking.
Certificates are still a killer, in terms of ease of installing, and price you often need to pay for them, for the amount of actual validation they give you for it.
Errr that couldn't be further from the truth.
Price: There are several free DV certificates available, and relatively cost effective EV certificates too.
Ease of installing: Are you talking about obtaining or installing? Because installing is literally putting 2 lines in your config file pointing to the certificates for most servers. Obtaining isn't any more difficult. Even the signing process is nothing more than copying and pasting a string into a terminal and then uploading the result to a website.
Actual validation: This is most confusing to me. What are you complaining about here? The validation they provide is perfect: You know the machine you're talking to is the one you're trying to talk to without someone listening in. This is easy and free to achieve. Want to validate the organisation? Get an EV certificate.
Salaried employees are typically over worked wage slaves
And now you're just laying some bias on the discussion. That is not helpful. Also commission basis also don't reflect your value to the employer as much as it reflects your ability to get a job done by a slightly different metric. It has more in common with a hourly rate. Neither reward your capabilities or value outside of the direct task you are currently doing.
Anyway that's my opinion. I don't believe the same people doing the same task in the same way provide the same overall value. I'll provide one more example and then agree to disagree.
In my previous role I had 2 polar opposite underlings, both capable safety engineers good at their task. One guy happy crunching numbers, the other guy with a wide breath of interests outside his immediate role. We had someone from the process safety department leave a hole in the organisation that needed to be backfilled, but the roll couldn't be backfilled by that department due to a badly timed maternity leave case. One of the two employees I have was happy to side step into this other role and perform that one for 6 months, and did so quite well in the other job (that was on the same pay grade, so he wasn't even acting up). The other employee was not capable, and even if he were I have my doubts he would have accepted (he gets stressed by change, especially temporary change).
To be clear at their job within their job description the one who focused only on his immediate work was actually slightly better at his job and that reflected in his performance review and his bonus. However he is utterly replaceable. he other guy who changed departments to fill a gap elsewhere is more useful to the organisation. His attitude and desire to do more, and his interest in the organisation overall makes him more valuable and that is reflected in his higher salary in the same band,... and also the fact that he is now on a management mentorship program and made a band level jump last year to take over the department head role when I left.
That is part of succession planning. You need to entice your valuable people to stay, especially those being mentored to be your successor. If he'd have left I highly doubt that the other guy would have been promoted up on my departure. Frankly I doubt he'd have even acted up. The site probably would have expatted someone from elsewhere to fill the role. Good engineer, but there's more to value for the company than just doing your job.
there might be a generational gap between us that will only be resolved after you retire
As a matter of opinion, which generation do you think I am part of? I'm not sure this is a generational thing as much as a political opinion, kind of like a labour vs liberal type of debates that will always agree to disagree in the end.
Managing two different people differently is part of your jab as a manager. However we are talking about pay for a specific job.
Are you talking about managing people, or are you talking about paying someone to do a job. You can't have it both ways.
If you want to get paid to do a job, then go on an hourly rate at Burger King. If you want to be paid based on how much value you provide to the company (an employee is nothing more than a commercial decision of how much value they provide vs how much they cost) then work in a salaried position.
Negative. If you only ever look for a 100% perfect solution to a problem you will never solve any problem. You don't need to not kill people, you just have to prove you're better than a human driver. And in many scenarios this is already the case, e.g. NHSTA's report on Tesla's death found despite the fatality that users letting auto drive do the work were 40% less likely to end up in an accident.
Which is why it makes sense to order the $15000 limited use device rather than the more expensive unlimited device, even if you have more than 300 phones to unlock.
I fully expect to die before it happens. I hope it's ironic like my next of kin clicks the X button when presented with "Are you sure you wish to turn off life-support."
You're now going to a lot of effort to connect someone based on a completely pointless hunch. Pro tip: if this person is actually of interest, just follow them. No need for wildly expensive big data conspiracies.
And that was my point. Yeah Google is only doing what's best for it's shareholders, that doesn't mean that this problem potentially could have been avoided if there wasn't an IT spat between two money hungry corporations.
The industry can't continue this way. If it wasn't for the gifting of IP to save lives, then we wouldn't have seat-belts, famously developed by Volvo, and then purposely patented for the sole purpose of publicly opening the patent and ensuring no single company can lock down innovation in safety.
The real question is if this kind of policy has been lost in the annals of time, and if people working for the common good rather than for cash will ever happen for self driving cars.
You have been living off the grid for 2 years but you didn't know this?
She only *thinks* she's been living off the grid. The reality is the government is probably watching only her and ignoring all the other normal people out there.
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Gotta make sure the devices spy on you correctly
It's quite ironic that this mostly effects phones from Chinese vendors.
This is Google deciding to stop people
This isn't even Google stopping people. It's google stopping companies and pirates. Individual people can happily register their Android ID with Google and all the Play Apps work just fine.
Which fanbase is that?
The 99.9% of people in the west who just buy a normal phone off the shelf and arne't affected?
The 0.1% of people who flash their custom ROM and simply need to register their android ID with Google to remain unaffected?
Or maybe you think Google's core fanbase is the Chinese phone makers marketing Android devices for which they don't play by the rules every other Android manufacturer must follow?
No he doesn't, because those people are able to run the apps just fine, they only need to submit their Android ID to Google and the warning note even provides a link for them to do it.
As far as I'm concerned, if it's not like a broken car, then it doesn't matter.
You must be a Gen Xer.
As a millennial you can have my car, just don't take my mobile internet connection.
Most of the world's farmland is so "broken" that the problem in most countries is people getting fat.
Obesity has very little to do with how much farming we produce. Hell if we had more farm and people ate more products from said farms we may not be so fat. And I appreciate the irony of saying this while chowing down on some deep fried processed shit for lunch.
The people screaming for investigations had no problem with Democrats using FB data for election demographics purposes
The people making this claim don't see some very big and critical differences between the two cases, not the least of which involves a lack of foreign 3rd party entities influencing elections in the democrat's case. The only people who think this is about Facebook itself are those who have a partisan axe to grind.
Hint: It wasn't Facebook's headquarters that was raided.
How many businesses could lose $100 billion dollars and still be operating?
How many businesses have 1/4 of the population of the entire world as their user base?
Don't underestimate the sheer monster that Facebook has become, and based on what we know about how much information they have on us is that value really so surprising?
That's without getting into any discussion about what Sharemarket value actually means for a business (hint: nothing, during the GOM oil spill BP was valued by shareholders as less than the cost of the assets + oil sitting in storage which is absurd for a company that had healthy cashflow)
Knowing all that, would you loan someone $100,000+? Even a mortgage means the bank has something to secure the loan.
Simple answer is you wouldn't and why would you need to? What kind of a person can't start their life out of university without a $100000 loan? Hell I did it with $5k and a $600 car to my name. Talk of loans and mortgages weren't even considered until a few years after I started working.
What does that chart even show? The Y axis is just labelled "percent".
Notice that regardless of which year you look at on the graph the total of all points added up is very close to 100?
Actually the totals are consistently around 90 so there's probably a line missing entitled "other".
College is a highly-speculative position.
Horseshit. Minimum certifications in order to enter the job market isn't speculation. Your idea that somehow the job market will allow people without these certifications to enter is ... well that isn't speculation either, that is wishful thinking.
Certificates are still a killer, in terms of ease of installing, and price you often need to pay for them, for the amount of actual validation they give you for it.
Errr that couldn't be further from the truth.
Price: There are several free DV certificates available, and relatively cost effective EV certificates too.
Ease of installing: Are you talking about obtaining or installing? Because installing is literally putting 2 lines in your config file pointing to the certificates for most servers. Obtaining isn't any more difficult. Even the signing process is nothing more than copying and pasting a string into a terminal and then uploading the result to a website.
Actual validation: This is most confusing to me. What are you complaining about here? The validation they provide is perfect: You know the machine you're talking to is the one you're trying to talk to without someone listening in. This is easy and free to achieve. Want to validate the organisation? Get an EV certificate.
We live in a world where $40k cars are common now and you complain that a phone you could use for three to four years costs $1k?
We live in a world where people spend $300000 on a house, what do you mean they think that a $20 banana is frigging expensive and not worth the money!
And you can get it free through some channels like carrier subsidy
Oh my god. Please tell me you're not actually that stupid.
Salaried employees are typically over worked wage slaves
And now you're just laying some bias on the discussion. That is not helpful. Also commission basis also don't reflect your value to the employer as much as it reflects your ability to get a job done by a slightly different metric. It has more in common with a hourly rate. Neither reward your capabilities or value outside of the direct task you are currently doing.
Anyway that's my opinion. I don't believe the same people doing the same task in the same way provide the same overall value. I'll provide one more example and then agree to disagree.
In my previous role I had 2 polar opposite underlings, both capable safety engineers good at their task. One guy happy crunching numbers, the other guy with a wide breath of interests outside his immediate role. We had someone from the process safety department leave a hole in the organisation that needed to be backfilled, but the roll couldn't be backfilled by that department due to a badly timed maternity leave case. One of the two employees I have was happy to side step into this other role and perform that one for 6 months, and did so quite well in the other job (that was on the same pay grade, so he wasn't even acting up). The other employee was not capable, and even if he were I have my doubts he would have accepted (he gets stressed by change, especially temporary change).
To be clear at their job within their job description the one who focused only on his immediate work was actually slightly better at his job and that reflected in his performance review and his bonus. However he is utterly replaceable. ... and also the fact that he is now on a management mentorship program and made a band level jump last year to take over the department head role when I left.
he other guy who changed departments to fill a gap elsewhere is more useful to the organisation. His attitude and desire to do more, and his interest in the organisation overall makes him more valuable and that is reflected in his higher salary in the same band,
That is part of succession planning. You need to entice your valuable people to stay, especially those being mentored to be your successor. If he'd have left I highly doubt that the other guy would have been promoted up on my departure. Frankly I doubt he'd have even acted up. The site probably would have expatted someone from elsewhere to fill the role. Good engineer, but there's more to value for the company than just doing your job.
there might be a generational gap between us that will only be resolved after you retire
As a matter of opinion, which generation do you think I am part of? I'm not sure this is a generational thing as much as a political opinion, kind of like a labour vs liberal type of debates that will always agree to disagree in the end.
Just sayin'
Also wouldn't work with a 4 digit pin. Seems like we solved this problem long before it existed.
You don't need to get a payday loan to afford phone security anymore.
You're welcome.
Yes.
Managing two different people differently is part of your jab as a manager. However we are talking about pay for a specific job.
Are you talking about managing people, or are you talking about paying someone to do a job. You can't have it both ways.
If you want to get paid to do a job, then go on an hourly rate at Burger King. If you want to be paid based on how much value you provide to the company (an employee is nothing more than a commercial decision of how much value they provide vs how much they cost) then work in a salaried position.
Negative. If you only ever look for a 100% perfect solution to a problem you will never solve any problem. You don't need to not kill people, you just have to prove you're better than a human driver. And in many scenarios this is already the case, e.g. NHSTA's report on Tesla's death found despite the fatality that users letting auto drive do the work were 40% less likely to end up in an accident.
Sign me up.
Which is why it makes sense to order the $15000 limited use device rather than the more expensive unlimited device, even if you have more than 300 phones to unlock.
iPhone takes longer than a few hours to unlock, someone must be specifically hiding something! Guilty!
-FBI
I fully expect to die before it happens. I hope it's ironic like my next of kin clicks the X button when presented with "Are you sure you wish to turn off life-support."
You're now going to a lot of effort to connect someone based on a completely pointless hunch. Pro tip: if this person is actually of interest, just follow them. No need for wildly expensive big data conspiracies.
And that was my point. Yeah Google is only doing what's best for it's shareholders, that doesn't mean that this problem potentially could have been avoided if there wasn't an IT spat between two money hungry corporations.
The industry can't continue this way. If it wasn't for the gifting of IP to save lives, then we wouldn't have seat-belts, famously developed by Volvo, and then purposely patented for the sole purpose of publicly opening the patent and ensuring no single company can lock down innovation in safety.
The real question is if this kind of policy has been lost in the annals of time, and if people working for the common good rather than for cash will ever happen for self driving cars.
I'm going to call you "pretentious".
"Mental case" would probably do as well.
You have been living off the grid for 2 years but you didn't know this?
She only *thinks* she's been living off the grid. The reality is the government is probably watching only her and ignoring all the other normal people out there.