No I don't. What is the drill? Assume that a company that has wholly changed from actively attempting to squash competition on the desktop to being a cloud based services provider who already has close to 100% market share on the desktop still follows a strategy from 20 years ago?
EEE takes a lot of time, money and effort. So why would they do it? What is their incentive?
The desktop? Nope. They've shown to be able to fuck users quite badly without losing marketshare to Linux, so that's not a threat to them. The server? Nope. Their desktop market share will maintain their server marketshare quite readily due to a lack of alternatives for Exchange, Sharepoint and Active Directory, so that's not a threat to them. The cloud? Nope. Over 1/3rd of Azure runs on Linux for customer related reasons not server feature related reasons. There is no incentive to extinguish the system that underpins Microsoft's most profitable division.
Oh sorry. I get the point now. "the drill" is mindless bashing while using the least possible amount of braincells. Sorry, carry on then. Don't strain your brain too much.
It is hard to imagine a time where MS is offering Office for Linux.
I have no problem opening up Office 365 on Linux. Before you say it's not "Office" remember that if you search Microsoft Office on any search engine or go to Office.com or go to the Microsoft store the first thing you will be greeted with is Office 365.
To say they aren't pushing a desktop version would be disingenuous, they are actively hiding it. So their "premier" Office product most definitely runs on Linux.
Came here for this, did not leave disappointed. Yeah sure, EEE makes sense if you're completely blind to what MS has done in the past 10 years, but it fails the sniff test and also doesn't make sense if you apply any thought at all.
They have zero incentive to extinguish Linux. It isn't costing them even a spec of market share. For all the fucking over of users, for the privacy invasions, for the forced updates, for the unusable hardware... their desktop market share has given up but a rounding error to Linux. While their desktop market doesn't budge, their server market won't either as Linux has absolutely nothing to offer comparable to Active Director + Sharepoint + Exchange.
On the flipside the single most profitable part of their business (cloud services) are incredibly dependent on Linux with over 1/3rd of Azure instances running the OS.
So sure, maybe you're right, or maybe they won't shoot the goose which lays golden eggs.
What's there to fix? Money was paid, a study was done, the science was reviewed and determined to be garbage. The conclusion hasn't changed (other better studies come to the same conclusion about sedentary life styles).
There's nothing in science to fix as evident by this self-regulating result.
What realistically does any company expect other than an outcome where it makes their product more marketable?
Indeed, but tell me again what Coca Cola has to do with sedentary life styles? I'd care more if they were studying anything at all to do with sugar intake.
I get it. Coca Cola is shifting the blame away from sugary drinks. This study also is loaded with junk science. But... isn't this basically a forgone conclusion anyway?
I mean do we really need a study regardless of source of funding or quality of science to tell us that sitting on our asses isn't healthy? You don't need to study that directly when you look at all the other health science out there, and the fact that it was funded by Coca Cola doesn't change the fact either.
I frankly don't care that the funding came from a sugar drink company, it wasn't assessing the effect of sugar. I'm sad that the study was junk, but frankly I don't care much that the attention was shifted from drinks providing science is done.
There are plenty of things you can do in all that time you now spend in front of a TV
Actually no. You'll probably be very surprised to find that a lot of time spent in front of the TV leaves the TV as background entertainment for various activities.
*summons the anecdoter*: In our house the TV is probably on for 3-4 hours per day, personally while that is happening I often stream netflix in another room. I would wager that we spend a whole 1-2 hours per week actually sitting down and watching something. The wife is doing masters of mathematics assignments, and I'm building shit or playing in photoshop most of the time. Hell I am watching Rick and Morty RIGHT NOW, and Nashville is on in the living room from the sound of it.
Neither of these shows could be substituted by anything on your list, as they actually require proper attention (though some could be combined like gardening with friends).
The alternatives are already getting worse than cable.
Not even remotely. They aren't getting better, but they are far from worse.
Sign up with Netflix and you enjoy a huge variety of shows and movies
Still do. The catalogue is quite extensive even though I don't live in the USA don't get even a fraction of what is available there.
Disney already pulled their content out to create their own streaming service.
No they didn't. That won't happen until the end of 2018. Expect them to realise how dumb this decision was and reintroduce it all end of 2019.
I could see that people stop "cutting" the cable when they notice that streaming has become the same kind of bullshit, so why bother?
Wait I thought you said it's all bad, now you're saying people could stop seeing the point in the future?
In the end...
Okay stop time travelling. Pick a year to reference your post and then start talking about that year. You're jumping between saying something is bad now, talking about things that won't change till a while into the future, and then referencing some end game.
Cord cutters almost implies some sort of deviant behaviour where people are moving outside the bounds of normal, polite society.
They are. America is built on a solid foundation of guns, Jesus, and cable TV. These cord-cutters will ruin this great country with their sacrilege. I say we take our guns in one hand, our crosses in the other, and do the lords work on these cord-cutters. Don't forget to bring a film crew as well, this is going to sell really well on pay-per-view.
That's all good and fine, but you and your son are generally outliers. People like you who are fit, active, and muscly aren't the ones who are even looking to government messages about BMI or getting active, or losing weight.
Health messages are targeted at the unhealthy. For those people BMI is far from a red herring.
Our life insurance company takes this into account
That's because they aren't targeting messages at people who are fat, unhealthy and need to move their fat arses more. They are in the business of accurate predictions which involve health analysis that doesn't fit in a 5 second soundbite.
Yeah because on the scale of at least having a vote counted, vs having all your debt forgiven the correct answer is to throw away both options!
The USA will never receive the message without preferential voting. Literally no one in either party cares if you piss your vote against the wall by "sending a message".
I'm surprised it's about student debt. Hell I'd give up my right to vote in exchange for an icecream. At least icecream will give me some temporary enjoyment, vs voting for who will attempt to fuck the country a bit more next time round.
As someone who has successfully utilized the DMCA to defend my websites, no, you are the incorrect party.
As someone who has seen the DMCA successfully used against a printer, a person who produced 100% original work, and many 10s of thousands of cases that fall quite fairly under fair use, your successful use of the DMCA doesn't have any bearing on whether something is or isn't copyright.
Thanks for describing the steps that nearly all iPhone users go through. It was of great value to this discussion to read your interpretation first hand.
but isn't anti-trust typically about attempting to use your monopoly in one market to enter another?
Anti-trust is about abusing market share to your own gain, nothing more fine grained than that. It can be used for entering another market, it can be used for blocking or ruining a competitor in your own market, it can be used to simply screw your customers.
Sorry if you are stupid enough to allow some company to basically put a hot-mic in your home, well I don't feel sorry about any problems you encounter as a result of that.
Yeah what idiots they are. "Hey Siri: What do you think about all those idiots who have an Alexa in their house?"
Not GP, but I use the Google assistant to keep track of my calendar, shopping lists (automatically syncs with my phone), play music, play netflix, read a weather forecast.
Basically think of it as a voice controlled next step to what you used to do: 1. Manually get up and do individual things, such as type a weather forecast into google or check a newspaper, or go get a remote, or get a pen and paper.
to: 2. Natural progression to have to carry your smartphone everywhere, or if it's not on you have to go get it to achieve the above (really annoying for a shopping list since my phone normally charges on the opposite side of my house to my kitchen).
to: 3. Just say something and it gets done. And unlike my wife saying "what's the weather forecast" will actually result in the weather forecast instead of "get your phone and look it up yourself".
You didn't take into account that you've also given up every scrap of privacy you have, too. Is that worth $0 to you?
Yes.
You don't mind that it's entirely likely (and legal) that somebody somewhere is listening to you and your SO banging?
What is it with people and the idea of someone knowing they had sex is bad? Are you some kind of puritan? Personally listening to someone else banging is orders of magnitude worse than the thought of them knowing that we are.
You're actually telling me that when you're having sex or a wank in bed, you're fine with Amazon listening to that
I am actually fascinated by the idea that some people find sex and wanking something so incredibly personal that the thought of someone knowing that you do it becomes a deal breaker.
To answer your question: Yes. I don't give a shit if Alexa knows when I'm having sex, or having a wank.
If what's on the radio is more important than the reason you're covered in grease, go wash your hands, and sit down and listen to the radio.
That is an incredibly dumb comment given what you wrote before it. Doing something for the better part of a century is no reason to change it (or do you still ride your horse to work, sit down on your type writer, and send telegrams?) Having something in the background doesn't mean it's more important than the task at hand, except when it does something you don't want. So your suggestion is to drop what you're doing take a huge efficiency hit in your work to change what is going on in the background, or put up with annoying shit affecting your ability to concentrate? As if.
Go back to your farm and leave those of us who don't want to put up with minor inconveniences in life in peace.
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No I don't. What is the drill? Assume that a company that has wholly changed from actively attempting to squash competition on the desktop to being a cloud based services provider who already has close to 100% market share on the desktop still follows a strategy from 20 years ago?
EEE takes a lot of time, money and effort. So why would they do it? What is their incentive?
The desktop? Nope. They've shown to be able to fuck users quite badly without losing marketshare to Linux, so that's not a threat to them.
The server? Nope. Their desktop market share will maintain their server marketshare quite readily due to a lack of alternatives for Exchange, Sharepoint and Active Directory, so that's not a threat to them.
The cloud? Nope. Over 1/3rd of Azure runs on Linux for customer related reasons not server feature related reasons. There is no incentive to extinguish the system that underpins Microsoft's most profitable division.
Oh sorry. I get the point now. "the drill" is mindless bashing while using the least possible amount of braincells. Sorry, carry on then. Don't strain your brain too much.
It is hard to imagine a time where MS is offering Office for Linux.
I have no problem opening up Office 365 on Linux. Before you say it's not "Office" remember that if you search Microsoft Office on any search engine or go to Office.com or go to the Microsoft store the first thing you will be greeted with is Office 365.
To say they aren't pushing a desktop version would be disingenuous, they are actively hiding it. So their "premier" Office product most definitely runs on Linux.
Came here for this, did not leave disappointed. Yeah sure, EEE makes sense if you're completely blind to what MS has done in the past 10 years, but it fails the sniff test and also doesn't make sense if you apply any thought at all.
They have zero incentive to extinguish Linux. It isn't costing them even a spec of market share. For all the fucking over of users, for the privacy invasions, for the forced updates, for the unusable hardware... their desktop market share has given up but a rounding error to Linux. While their desktop market doesn't budge, their server market won't either as Linux has absolutely nothing to offer comparable to Active Director + Sharepoint + Exchange.
On the flipside the single most profitable part of their business (cloud services) are incredibly dependent on Linux with over 1/3rd of Azure instances running the OS.
So sure, maybe you're right, or maybe they won't shoot the goose which lays golden eggs.
What's there to fix? Money was paid, a study was done, the science was reviewed and determined to be garbage. The conclusion hasn't changed (other better studies come to the same conclusion about sedentary life styles).
There's nothing in science to fix as evident by this self-regulating result.
What realistically does any company expect other than an outcome where it makes their product more marketable?
Indeed, but tell me again what Coca Cola has to do with sedentary life styles? I'd care more if they were studying anything at all to do with sugar intake.
I get it. Coca Cola is shifting the blame away from sugary drinks. This study also is loaded with junk science. But ... isn't this basically a forgone conclusion anyway?
I mean do we really need a study regardless of source of funding or quality of science to tell us that sitting on our asses isn't healthy? You don't need to study that directly when you look at all the other health science out there, and the fact that it was funded by Coca Cola doesn't change the fact either.
I frankly don't care that the funding came from a sugar drink company, it wasn't assessing the effect of sugar. I'm sad that the study was junk, but frankly I don't care much that the attention was shifted from drinks providing science is done.
And none of his fanbois actually look at the car market and ask, "But what make you think you are going to sell them?"
Maybe because he already has 455000 pre-orders and we stopped asking pointless questions when we were 10.
There are plenty of things you can do in all that time you now spend in front of a TV
Actually no. You'll probably be very surprised to find that a lot of time spent in front of the TV leaves the TV as background entertainment for various activities.
*summons the anecdoter*:
In our house the TV is probably on for 3-4 hours per day, personally while that is happening I often stream netflix in another room. I would wager that we spend a whole 1-2 hours per week actually sitting down and watching something. The wife is doing masters of mathematics assignments, and I'm building shit or playing in photoshop most of the time. Hell I am watching Rick and Morty RIGHT NOW, and Nashville is on in the living room from the sound of it.
Neither of these shows could be substituted by anything on your list, as they actually require proper attention (though some could be combined like gardening with friends).
The alternatives are already getting worse than cable.
Not even remotely. They aren't getting better, but they are far from worse.
Sign up with Netflix and you enjoy a huge variety of shows and movies
Still do. The catalogue is quite extensive even though I don't live in the USA don't get even a fraction of what is available there.
Disney already pulled their content out to create their own streaming service.
No they didn't. That won't happen until the end of 2018. Expect them to realise how dumb this decision was and reintroduce it all end of 2019.
I could see that people stop "cutting" the cable when they notice that streaming has become the same kind of bullshit, so why bother?
Wait I thought you said it's all bad, now you're saying people could stop seeing the point in the future?
In the end...
Okay stop time travelling. Pick a year to reference your post and then start talking about that year. You're jumping between saying something is bad now, talking about things that won't change till a while into the future, and then referencing some end game.
Cord cutters almost implies some sort of deviant behaviour where people are moving outside the bounds of normal, polite society.
They are. America is built on a solid foundation of guns, Jesus, and cable TV. These cord-cutters will ruin this great country with their sacrilege. I say we take our guns in one hand, our crosses in the other, and do the lords work on these cord-cutters. Don't forget to bring a film crew as well, this is going to sell really well on pay-per-view.
That's all good and fine, but you and your son are generally outliers. People like you who are fit, active, and muscly aren't the ones who are even looking to government messages about BMI or getting active, or losing weight.
Health messages are targeted at the unhealthy. For those people BMI is far from a red herring.
Our life insurance company takes this into account
That's because they aren't targeting messages at people who are fat, unhealthy and need to move their fat arses more. They are in the business of accurate predictions which involve health analysis that doesn't fit in a 5 second soundbite.
Eating to death vs starving to death.
If only there was some middle ground. .... Oh well. Here's to heart disease!
Yeah because on the scale of at least having a vote counted, vs having all your debt forgiven the correct answer is to throw away both options!
The USA will never receive the message without preferential voting. Literally no one in either party cares if you piss your vote against the wall by "sending a message".
who wouldn't give up their right to this meaningless exercise in exchange for the forgiveness of $100,000.00 in debt?
I'd happily give it up for a small fraction of that.
I'm surprised it's about student debt. Hell I'd give up my right to vote in exchange for an icecream. At least icecream will give me some temporary enjoyment, vs voting for who will attempt to fuck the country a bit more next time round.
As someone who has successfully utilized the DMCA to defend my websites, no, you are the incorrect party.
As someone who has seen the DMCA successfully used against a printer, a person who produced 100% original work, and many 10s of thousands of cases that fall quite fairly under fair use, your successful use of the DMCA doesn't have any bearing on whether something is or isn't copyright.
Thanks for describing the steps that nearly all iPhone users go through. It was of great value to this discussion to read your interpretation first hand.
Negative. Christian bakers refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding because it's against their religion: fined $130,000.
A business is not allowed to discriminate against customers based on protected classes.
Muslim truck driver refused to deliver alcohol because it's against his religion: awarded $240,000.
A case which has nothing to do with discrimination against customers, and everything to do with an employer / employee relationship.
That's two contradictory outcomes. That's bias against Christians.
Only because you don't understand the difference between a customer and an employee.
This isn't a SPAM or Troll filter. This is limiting the spectrum of acceptable opinion.
And no one owes your opinion a soap-box either.
but isn't anti-trust typically about attempting to use your monopoly in one market to enter another?
Anti-trust is about abusing market share to your own gain, nothing more fine grained than that. It can be used for entering another market, it can be used for blocking or ruining a competitor in your own market, it can be used to simply screw your customers.
Sorry if you are stupid enough to allow some company to basically put a hot-mic in your home, well I don't feel sorry about any problems you encounter as a result of that.
Yeah what idiots they are. "Hey Siri: What do you think about all those idiots who have an Alexa in their house?"
Not GP, but I use the Google assistant to keep track of my calendar, shopping lists (automatically syncs with my phone), play music, play netflix, read a weather forecast.
Basically think of it as a voice controlled next step to what you used to do:
1. Manually get up and do individual things, such as type a weather forecast into google or check a newspaper, or go get a remote, or get a pen and paper.
to:
2. Natural progression to have to carry your smartphone everywhere, or if it's not on you have to go get it to achieve the above (really annoying for a shopping list since my phone normally charges on the opposite side of my house to my kitchen).
to:
3. Just say something and it gets done. And unlike my wife saying "what's the weather forecast" will actually result in the weather forecast instead of "get your phone and look it up yourself".
You didn't take into account that you've also given up every scrap of privacy you have, too. Is that worth $0 to you?
Yes.
You don't mind that it's entirely likely (and legal) that somebody somewhere is listening to you and your SO banging?
What is it with people and the idea of someone knowing they had sex is bad? Are you some kind of puritan? Personally listening to someone else banging is orders of magnitude worse than the thought of them knowing that we are.
Stop being ashamed of yourself.
You're actually telling me that when you're having sex or a wank in bed, you're fine with Amazon listening to that
I am actually fascinated by the idea that some people find sex and wanking something so incredibly personal that the thought of someone knowing that you do it becomes a deal breaker.
To answer your question: Yes. I don't give a shit if Alexa knows when I'm having sex, or having a wank.
If what's on the radio is more important than the reason you're covered in grease, go wash your hands, and sit down and listen to the radio.
That is an incredibly dumb comment given what you wrote before it. Doing something for the better part of a century is no reason to change it (or do you still ride your horse to work, sit down on your type writer, and send telegrams?) Having something in the background doesn't mean it's more important than the task at hand, except when it does something you don't want. So your suggestion is to drop what you're doing take a huge efficiency hit in your work to change what is going on in the background, or put up with annoying shit affecting your ability to concentrate? As if.
Go back to your farm and leave those of us who don't want to put up with minor inconveniences in life in peace.