Shhh...Don't tell my boss. (Silly me -- I have been running PHP in a production env. for over a year....And now I am just finding out it is still in a dev. stage.)
The internet motto: "When all else fails: Advertise"
OR
"Ads -- the other white meat"
It is just a matter of time before taco bell decides they can make me just as hungry by showing me an animated gif of a taco being made as I get from the 30 second TV version....Maybe then some of these poor.com's will get a lifeline:)
They will have to wait in line (Not the saturday night at the mens room in a bar type line -- we are talking Halftime at the superbowl of failed.com's type line:)
This is a good thing. HP printers are the most rugged and long lasting creatures that I have ever used (Not so long ago I had the fun job of installing and maintaining computers and printers in trains and other heavy equiptment...and I must say that the HP 540's 550's and 660's just kept printing....)
Maybe it was just dumb luck -- but I have chosen to go with HP's in my new (less bumpy) jobs -- and now am glad that maybe Linux drivers (and support) from HP may be a reality.
What luck --- first off I don't lose any money from the.com crashes (cause I never had any to invest) --- and second off I get to keep my email address (becuase I did not put sign up with one of those damn "get rich quick".com's)
Now if only I could remember those lotto numbers...
The whole.com "phenom" is puttering out because people are very cautious as to when they pull out their wallet. Does my.mp3.com think that these same people will pay $45 a year (or even 5 cents) to listen to music they have already purchased???
Like I am going to purchase a CD for $15 and then pay another dollar or so for the priviledge of listening to it.....NOT
sog
Re:Does this potentially kill Debian?
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If RedHat started to use apt (and somehow figured how to handle dependencies) then no one would ever need to upgrade via the $29 - $100+ shrinkwrap express....Would hurt profits:)
Of course the "premium" download loca's could always be added to your sources.list for the subscription fee of $19.95 a month or something....
Thanks -- but no thanks -- I will stick with Debian.
the DEPENDENCIES... When I used RPM based distros, I felt like a detective anytime I tried to install a package. I.E. --> Track down all of the packages that package 'a' depends on and install them (+ all of the (child) packages they depend on... and so on) before I can install the package I set out to install....Debian makes it so much easier --- If a package depends on 14 of those annoying PERL extensions -- then by darn it automatically goes out and installs all 14...WOW what a concept!!!
I encourage anyone stuck in "RPM Hell" to give Debian a wirl....(As to you Slackware users out their -- well I wont bother you -- I still have a soft spot for Slack)
I download the mozilla nightly...uhh nightly...I have the latest version of Opera...Mozilla hybrids (galeon, skipstone...), Konq, NS 6, and NS 4.7x...I have been playing a cruel came for the last few months. The game is this:
Fire up one of the above and browse normally until a crash happens -- move to the next one, and so on.....I am none to happy to report that the majority of my browsing is still happening with the "old workhorse" NS 4.7x..
I don't know -- maybe the plethora of new browsers is just a clever way of saying: "See NS 4.7x is not so bad after all suckers!"
I can't help but think that maybe Java was sold to the wrong crowd, and expectations were really high. Maybe it's just me -- but I was under the impression in the early days that Java would be the cross platform / thin client/ browser delivered GUI builder of the future. Heck, even Corel took a spin at doing WP office in Java.
(If I went to the store looking for a wrench and got sent home with a hammer -- yes I would be pissed when I found out that it was hard to tighten bolts with my new hammer.)
Java has been proven to have an advantage on the server end, and programmers will swear that Java is the ultimate tool to use with networking...(And yet I do not see any Java based web servers with a high percentage at Netcraft.)
I have yet to see any usable "desktop apps" written in Java -- although the people I hire to build apps always say "I wish we could do this in Java"....But when you say OK do it in Java -- in turns a small project into something akin to the moon landing.
What it boils down to IMHO is that I will just sit back on the fence and see if the next Apache type "killer server app" is written in Java....Or maybe the next Quicken type "killer client app" is written in Java --- until then I will keep my opinion that Java is being used to teach the kids in school proper programming, but in the real world -- it boils down to still chunking out C and C++ when you need to get the job done.
just get a donation from some of the people who made millions on their stock???? I am getting sick of all the dot.coms crying in their beer because they can't make a buck.
If you have a product I can touch -- get cheaper online than down the road at the local mall -- and not bend over for S & H -- then you will get my money....Try charging me $19.95 a month for 1's and 0's that I can get somewhere else for free...Or try charging $50 bucks for a stripped down Debian (free) distribution (corel)..and wonder why the piles of money are not showing up...I laugh.
they will come. -- Honestly, I would like to see this become both a profitable adventure for Borland -- and a flame free application development fest for the Linux world.
movie is still better than a good drama....Especially now days when the sci fi movies are far and few in between. (At least Jar Jar was no where to be seen)
They may, or may not (they are not bound one way or another.) However if they do -- I am sure it will somehow use Wine....Hell -- if they decided to port helloworld it would be something like this:
Darn...I would really like to use a good browser (IE) however, I can not fall off the wagon and break my Window$ ban/boycott. What is a guy to do??
On the other hand -- This does not even come close to the Warcraft "Jones'" that I had to struggle through last time I was tempted to install Windows. (It's funny how many people fell for that one!)
Standards? Who cares about 100% standards? Hell I just want a browser that does not crash and will use less RAM than Oracle 8 with the memory cache turned on...Then I will worry about standards!
BTW -- I am posting this from Konqueror, and everything is starting to look a bit better...
If microsoft had a way to stop all piracy -- you would see a mass exodus to Linux and Bsd. I personally have not touched a M$ product in 4 years (except at work)...But too all of the people I work with that say "Linux is not quite there yet", I counter with -- "Yea, but if you actually had to pay the sticker price for Windows NT or 2000 with a 20+ client pack -- your definition of there yet, would change..." I think this goes for a lot of home computer users.
I bet half of the people on the net that flame Linux, did not "dig deep" in their pockets for anything more than the price of a box of CDR's when it came time to outfit those killer Window machines..
OK. I can see paying for a service where the record companies make their songs available over multiple T3-S...Or a service similar to MP3.com (good bandwidth and well laid out HTML to guide the user)...But Napster is like fishing in the dark. Where one would be just as likely to throw their pole into cement than into the water.
Would I pay for a service where I "could have a chance" to download a poor quality rip from someones old cassette collection that he is sharing over his FAT 28.8 baud connection? NOT
Would I pay for a service like Mp3.com that had all of the established artists, plus artists from the past (who may have been big in the 80's but are now shouting "would you like fries with that") whose music was great, but can not be found in your local music store? YES
Bottom line -- the only reason Napster is big is not because of the Ease of Use, Quality Of Service....It is because of VOLUME.
And for all of us that choose not to benefit from the wonders of AOL..We could really care less...I don't think your average AOL junkie is the type to march and protest....(plus -- anyone who burned their Window$ disc on the infamous "March Against Redmond can't use AOL anyway right?)
Slashdot Mirror
Now all I have to do is go out and buy SB live cards for all of my servers....Then that will justify when people say "It's a jungle in there".
"PHP is still very much in a development stage"
Shhh...Don't tell my boss. (Silly me -- I have been running PHP in a production env. for over a year....And now I am just finding out it is still in a dev. stage.)
The internet motto: "When all else fails: Advertise"
.com's will get a lifeline :)
OR
"Ads -- the other white meat"
It is just a matter of time before taco bell decides they can make me just as hungry by showing me an animated gif of a taco being made as I get from the 30 second TV version....Maybe then some of these poor
These guys are heading straight for the toilet.
.com's type line :)
They will have to wait in line (Not the saturday night at the mens room in a bar type line -- we are talking Halftime at the superbowl of failed
This is a good thing. HP printers are the most rugged and long lasting creatures that I have ever used (Not so long ago I had the fun job of installing and maintaining computers and printers in trains and other heavy equiptment...and I must say that the HP 540's 550's and 660's just kept printing....)
Maybe it was just dumb luck -- but I have chosen to go with HP's in my new (less bumpy) jobs -- and now am glad that maybe Linux drivers (and support) from HP may be a reality.
What luck --- first off I don't lose any money from the
Now if only I could remember those lotto numbers...
The whole .com "phenom" is puttering out because people are very cautious as to when they pull out their wallet. Does my.mp3.com think that these same people will pay $45 a year (or even 5 cents) to listen to music they have already purchased???
Like I am going to purchase a CD for $15 and then pay another dollar or so for the priviledge of listening to it.....NOT
sog
If RedHat started to use apt (and somehow figured how to handle dependencies) then no one would ever need to upgrade via the $29 - $100+ shrinkwrap express....Would hurt profits :)
Of course the "premium" download loca's could always be added to your sources.list for the subscription fee of $19.95 a month or something....
Thanks -- but no thanks -- I will stick with Debian.
the DEPENDENCIES... When I used RPM based distros, I felt like a detective anytime I tried to install a package. I.E. --> Track down all of the packages that package 'a' depends on and install them (+ all of the (child) packages they depend on... and so on) before I can install the package I set out to install....Debian makes it so much easier --- If a package depends on 14 of those annoying PERL extensions -- then by darn it automatically goes out and installs all 14...WOW what a concept!!!
I encourage anyone stuck in "RPM Hell" to give Debian a wirl....(As to you Slackware users out their -- well I wont bother you -- I still have a soft spot for Slack)
sog
I download the mozilla nightly...uhh nightly...I have the latest version of Opera...Mozilla hybrids (galeon, skipstone...), Konq, NS 6, and NS 4.7x...I have been playing a cruel came for the last few months. The game is this:
Fire up one of the above and browse normally until a crash happens -- move to the next one, and so on.....I am none to happy to report that the majority of my browsing is still happening with the "old workhorse" NS 4.7x..
I don't know -- maybe the plethora of new browsers is just a clever way of saying: "See NS 4.7x is not so bad after all suckers!"
Man -- after a long vacation I had just sat down to get caught up on my Satire -- and then OUCH here comes the
Oh well -- at least I got a few good laughs from Dubbya's diary thingy...
I can't help but think that maybe Java was sold to the wrong crowd, and expectations were really high. Maybe it's just me -- but I was under the impression in the early days that Java would be the cross platform / thin client/ browser delivered GUI builder of the future. Heck, even Corel took a spin at doing WP office in Java.
(If I went to the store looking for a wrench and got sent home with a hammer -- yes I would be pissed when I found out that it was hard to tighten bolts with my new hammer.)
Java has been proven to have an advantage on the server end, and programmers will swear that Java is the ultimate tool to use with networking...(And yet I do not see any Java based web servers with a high percentage at Netcraft.)
I have yet to see any usable "desktop apps" written in Java -- although the people I hire to build apps always say "I wish we could do this in Java"....But when you say OK do it in Java -- in turns a small project into something akin to the moon landing.
What it boils down to IMHO is that I will just sit back on the fence and see if the next Apache type "killer server app" is written in Java....Or maybe the next Quicken type "killer client app" is written in Java --- until then I will keep my opinion that Java is being used to teach the kids in school proper programming, but in the real world -- it boils down to still chunking out C and C++ when you need to get the job done.
SOG
just get a donation from some of the people who made millions on their stock???? I am getting sick of all the dot.coms crying in their beer because they can't make a buck.
If you have a product I can touch -- get cheaper online than down the road at the local mall -- and not bend over for S & H -- then you will get my money....Try charging me $19.95 a month for 1's and 0's that I can get somewhere else for free...Or try charging $50 bucks for a stripped down Debian (free) distribution (corel)..and wonder why the piles of money are not showing up...I laugh.
sog
they will come. -- Honestly, I would like to see this become both a profitable adventure for Borland -- and a flame free application development fest for the Linux world.
movie is still better than a good drama....Especially now days when the sci fi movies are far and few in between. (At least Jar Jar was no where to be seen)
sog
It was an interesting experiment, but maybe 5 years ahead of it's time. Maybe more.
Yea - in 5 years that speedy 56k dial up POTS ISP will really be comeing into it's own.
- I really like installing my own drive. They're cheap enough just buy a spare every four months and swap them.
I guess I am not in that finacial bracket...How many of us could budget a new HD every few months? (Hell I am still running an AMD K6 350...)
Oh...2 be single again.
They may, or may not (they are not bound one way or another.) However if they do -- I am sure it will somehow use Wine....Hell -- if they decided to port helloworld it would be something like this:
#!/bin/sh
exec wine helloworld.exe
Darn...I would really like to use a good browser (IE) however, I can not fall off the wagon and break my Window$ ban/boycott. What is a guy to do??
On the other hand -- This does not even come close to the Warcraft "Jones'" that I had to struggle through last time I was tempted to install Windows. (It's funny how many people fell for that one!)
Standards? Who cares about 100% standards? Hell I just want a browser that does not crash and will use less RAM than Oracle 8 with the memory cache turned on...Then I will worry about standards!
BTW -- I am posting this from Konqueror, and everything is starting to look a bit better...
If microsoft had a way to stop all piracy -- you would see a mass exodus to Linux and Bsd. I personally have not touched a M$ product in 4 years (except at work)...But too all of the people I work with that say "Linux is not quite there yet", I counter with -- "Yea, but if you actually had to pay the sticker price for Windows NT or 2000 with a 20+ client pack -- your definition of there yet, would change..." I think this goes for a lot of home computer users.
I bet half of the people on the net that flame Linux, did not "dig deep" in their pockets for anything more than the price of a box of CDR's when it came time to outfit those killer Window machines..
Repeat after me...Piracy Sucks.
I have a backup plan if this does not work:
Find on Internet where bussiness neq pRon and business model = legit GO!
OK. I can see paying for a service where the record companies make their songs available over multiple T3-S...Or a service similar to MP3.com (good bandwidth and well laid out HTML to guide the user)...But Napster is like fishing in the dark. Where one would be just as likely to throw their pole into cement than into the water.
Would I pay for a service where I "could have a chance" to download a poor quality rip from someones old cassette collection that he is sharing over his FAT 28.8 baud connection? NOT
Would I pay for a service like Mp3.com that had all of the established artists, plus artists from the past (who may have been big in the 80's but are now shouting "would you like fries with that") whose music was great, but can not be found in your local music store? YES
Bottom line -- the only reason Napster is big is not because of the Ease of Use, Quality Of Service....It is because of VOLUME.
FM is emitted out the other to, say, your car stereo
Yea as long as you don't drive more than 150 feet from the source!
And for all of us that choose not to benefit from the wonders of AOL..We could really care less...I don't think your average AOL junkie is the type to march and protest....(plus -- anyone who burned their Window$ disc on the infamous "March Against Redmond can't use AOL anyway right?)
sog