I've never thought that judges would protect me from anything. However, I'd much rather have said judge - presumably a neutral third party - review the request for a warrant than simply have Homeland Security decide they need it, without having to consult that judge.
And for the previous poster which said that warrants are required, perhaps you should read the act. It's people like you who allowed it to go into effect in the first place.
I have several problems with the so-called Patriot Act -- as well as the efforts now undderway to extend it past its original 5-year expiration.
Primarily among these include:
1) Lack of judicial review. If you want to search my house, get a d*mn judge to approve a warrant. Doing it because "you suspect I'm a terrorist" is just flat crap.
2) Removal of freedom of speech. If I DO receive certain requests/requirements under the PA, I am *required* to comply with them, and *prohibited by law* from talking about them. And now it seems that if I *do* mention that the FBI raided my house, I can go to jail for at least a year.
3) In general, the PA goes *way* too far. Any bill which must shroud its activities in a cloud of secrecy is NOT the intent of the people who wrote our constitution. Secret pogroms smack of Nazi Germany. Of course, so does the USA, today.
Excuse me? "No way to repeal the Patriot Act and be assured... that a hefty part of our rights still stand"????
Have you actually *READ* the Patriot Act?
To repeal it in its entirety would revert things to the world of pre-9/11. And frankly, I feel like I had a helluva lot more rights then, than I do now.
Or, you would wind up in an offshore detention camp, without permission to so much as access your lawyer.
As for silly hyperbole, I don't disagree. However, have you actually *read* the act? Everything I've said is supported by the current version of same.
And it would *really* surprise me if yes, this post, and others like it, weren't going into a file somewhere. If they aren't now, they will be within the decade - the US government, at least, has been very upfront about their desire to capture every single bit of 'net traffic. No pun intended.
Super accurate time-keeping is also a critical aspect of the cellular telephone network. In fact, the time you see displayed on many/most cellphones quite likely originated from the GPS sats.
One can buy a rackmount device which pulls GPS-origin'd time from the CDMA phone signals - see e.g. time.twc.weather.com (a publically accessible NTP server) which has such a device attached.
While I would normally agree with you, YOUR message would have had more credibility if you had used the correct form of possessive 'it' -- "its". "It's" is an abbreviation for "it is".
And let's not even talk about the apostrophe in "yours"....
Chip and Pin is destined to stay outside of the US, which is why US credit card companies are always trying to do something new that is entirely unnecessary.
Actually, pin # verification for Visa / MC is *already* in the US. They're called Verified by Visa and Mastercard Secure, respectively, and any cardholder is free to attach a pin # to their card.
They're a huge benefit to merchants, as verified transactions are subject to far fewer chargeback reasons.
Frankly, were I a JPI user, I'd be up in arms as well. Knowing that it went as far as having the forums shut down is insightful, but raises more questions as to why that information wasn't in top-posted article.
Anyway, thanks for the input. And I wish *I* had a Mooney.;) I hear the profile makes for a less forgiving landing profile, although I've never actually flown one.
Like I said - "state issued". The real problem is that identification cards - whether mandated or burned into our foreheads at birth - don't do anything to significantly increase security. They DO however, provide a false sense of same, cause a lot of aggravation, and cost a lot of money.
No, actually - pedantically speaking, were I to carry a glockenspiel (no doubt to run people over with the requisite forklift;) around, that would be more correctly attributed to the likes of Mr. Glocke.
For those outraged enough to complain to their House representatives for passing this crap to the senate in the first place, here's a link to the vote:
Read the text?/. aside, sometimes it is simply not necessary.
There is nothing that hasn't already been done to D.L.'s that can do anything to improve security, but much to improve Big Brotherism.
If this law were designed to remove restrictions, it wouldn't be snuck into a bunch of military spending, and the congress critters would be trumpeting it to the heavens and beyond.
Ergo, at best it maintains current rights, and at worst it infringes them. There can be no possible benefit from any of the broad concepts proposed, and this **** should be fought on general principle alone.
I don't need to read the text to see how, exactly I'm getting screwed over; enough of the facts have been reported in various places for me to know that I am.
Except that by 'the article' I meant the one referred to in the top post, not the link you posted, which requires me to remember my AOPA userid/password (and is inaccessible to non-members).
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how having a 'blackbox' on an airplane is doomed to failure.
As am I, but having never said that, I'm just startled at the non-sequitor. Not reading the article is bad enough; not reading the comments is something else altogether!
Encrypting the data to provide a 'blackbox' is doomed to failure; someone somewhere (outside the US, sad to say) is bound to hack it.
And if format of the stored data can be reverse-engineered (e.g. by decompiling the reader code), the decryption process becomes that much easier.
Although the 'article' sounds like it's designed to sell magazines more than anything else. No links to any of those forums where the users are supposedly up in arms, for example.
*I'm* not the one suggesting that e.g. a Garmin shopper should have to visit each site to find the best deal. But yes, that is my take on the result of the legitimate advertisers in the face of MAP pricing.
Some manufacturers only make you comply with MAP prices if you're a preferred dealer - which, ironically enough, means you can actually sell it for even less. You just can't tell anybody that.
Other manufacturers strongly enforce MAP pricing - yea, even unto refusing to support products bought from 'grey-market' dealers. The most extremist amongst those will actually refuse to repair your product -- even if you offer to pay for the effort -- if you did not buy the product from a 'legitimate' dealer.
Where part of becoming a legitimate dealer is signing an agreement to comply with MAP pricing. Not all manufacturers provide incentives to become a reseller of their products; some seem to consider that they're doing us a favor and that we should be greatful.
Note that I'm not implying that all manufacturers do this. But some do. In the end, the only rule that applies is caveat emptor!
Personally, I'd LOVE to see the whole MAP game go bust....
I think the fundraising efforts to support e.g. legal efforts by various sites and/or projects put paid to the theory that people only support such things because they are free, at any rate.
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Personally, I find it ironic that we are almost totally a bread-and-circuses society already, and yet Congress wants to cut funding for NPR/PBS.
Too much education and too little 'circus' there, I guess.
http://www.moveon.org/publicbroadcasting/?t=1
I've never thought that judges would protect me from anything. However, I'd much rather have said judge - presumably a neutral third party - review the request for a warrant than simply have Homeland Security decide they need it, without having to consult that judge.
And for the previous poster which said that warrants are required, perhaps you should read the act. It's people like you who allowed it to go into effect in the first place.
I have several problems with the so-called Patriot Act -- as well as the efforts now undderway to extend it past its original 5-year expiration.
Primarily among these include:
1) Lack of judicial review. If you want to search my house, get a d*mn judge to approve a warrant. Doing it because "you suspect I'm a terrorist" is just flat crap.
2) Removal of freedom of speech. If I DO receive certain requests/requirements under the PA, I am *required* to comply with them, and *prohibited by law* from talking about them. And now it seems that if I *do* mention that the FBI raided my house, I can go to jail for at least a year.
3) In general, the PA goes *way* too far. Any bill which must shroud its activities in a cloud of secrecy is NOT the intent of the people who wrote our constitution. Secret pogroms smack of Nazi Germany. Of course, so does the USA, today.
Excuse me? "No way to repeal the Patriot Act and be assured ... that a hefty part of our rights still stand"????
Have you actually *READ* the Patriot Act?
To repeal it in its entirety would revert things to the world of pre-9/11. And frankly, I feel like I had a helluva lot more rights then, than I do now.
Or, you would wind up in an offshore detention camp, without permission to so much as access your lawyer.
As for silly hyperbole, I don't disagree. However, have you actually *read* the act? Everything I've said is supported by the current version of same.
And it would *really* surprise me if yes, this post, and others like it, weren't going into a file somewhere. If they aren't now, they will be within the decade - the US government, at least, has been very upfront about their desire to capture every single bit of 'net traffic. No pun intended.
More to the point, how many of you could actually talk about it if it has/had happened? Without going to jail?
And how many of you KNOW your house has not been the target of a 'sneak and peek' operation?
That's what I thought.
Super accurate time-keeping is also a critical aspect of the cellular telephone network. In fact, the time you see displayed on many/most cellphones quite likely originated from the GPS sats.
One can buy a rackmount device which pulls GPS-origin'd time from the CDMA phone signals - see e.g. time.twc.weather.com (a publically accessible NTP server) which has such a device attached.
While I would normally agree with you, YOUR message would have had more credibility if you had used the correct form of possessive 'it' -- "its". "It's" is an abbreviation for "it is".
And let's not even talk about the apostrophe in "yours"....
Chip and Pin is destined to stay outside of the US, which is why US credit card companies are always trying to do something new that is entirely unnecessary.
Actually, pin # verification for Visa / MC is *already* in the US. They're called Verified by Visa and Mastercard Secure, respectively, and any cardholder is free to attach a pin # to their card.
They're a huge benefit to merchants, as verified transactions are subject to far fewer chargeback reasons.
Frankly, were I a JPI user, I'd be up in arms as well. Knowing that it went as far as having the forums shut down is insightful, but raises more questions as to why that information wasn't in top-posted article.
;) I hear the profile makes for a less forgiving landing profile, although I've never actually flown one.
Anyway, thanks for the input. And I wish *I* had a Mooney.
Like I said - "state issued". The real problem is that identification cards - whether mandated or burned into our foreheads at birth - don't do anything to significantly increase security. They DO however, provide a false sense of same, cause a lot of aggravation, and cost a lot of money.
I strongly recommend e.g. this link:
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0402.html#6
As Bruce says it better than I.
No, actually - pedantically speaking, were I to carry a glockenspiel (no doubt to run people over with the requisite forklift ;) around, that would be more correctly attributed to the likes of Mr. Glocke.
That works, I suppose -- presuming that one does not, indeed, READ the aforesaid facts.
Or that you only read 'facts' which come from recognizably (to the intelligent perceiver) biased sources.
For those outraged enough to complain to their House representatives for passing this crap to the senate in the first place, here's a link to the vote:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll031.xml
Yah gotta hate that damn empirical evidence, don't you?
I value what little privacy I have remaining, and I should not have to carry a piece of plastic just to fricking travel.....
Personally, I carry a big piece of plastic wherever I travel, because I value my freedom.
Of course, in this case, my plastic was manufactured by the likes of Mr. Glock.
OT, but thanks - I was too lazy to track down a link, but now I'm too curious not to go waste some time reading. ;)
Define "verifiable"? What most people mean in that context is "state-issued". Hmmm, back to square one.
It can't - the courts ruled that the line-item veto was unconsitutional. Speaking of smelly crocks of government residue.
Read the text? /. aside, sometimes it is simply not necessary.
There is nothing that hasn't already been done to D.L.'s that can do anything to improve security, but much to improve Big Brotherism.
If this law were designed to remove restrictions, it wouldn't be snuck into a bunch of military spending, and the congress critters would be trumpeting it to the heavens and beyond.
Ergo, at best it maintains current rights, and at worst it infringes them. There can be no possible benefit from any of the broad concepts proposed, and this **** should be fought on general principle alone.
I don't need to read the text to see how, exactly I'm getting screwed over; enough of the facts have been reported in various places for me to know that I am.
Except that by 'the article' I meant the one referred to in the top post, not the link you posted, which requires me to remember my AOPA userid/password (and is inaccessible to non-members).
I'm sorry, but I fail to see how having a 'blackbox' on an airplane is doomed to failure.
As am I, but having never said that, I'm just startled at the non-sequitor. Not reading the article is bad enough; not reading the comments is something else altogether!
Encrypting the data to provide a 'blackbox' is doomed to failure; someone somewhere (outside the US, sad to say) is bound to hack it.
And if format of the stored data can be reverse-engineered (e.g. by decompiling the reader code), the decryption process becomes that much easier.
Although the 'article' sounds like it's designed to sell magazines more than anything else. No links to any of those forums where the users are supposedly up in arms, for example.
*I'm* not the one suggesting that e.g. a Garmin shopper should have to visit each site to find the best deal. But yes, that is my take on the result of the legitimate advertisers in the face of MAP pricing.
Some manufacturers only make you comply with MAP prices if you're a preferred dealer - which, ironically enough, means you can actually sell it for even less. You just can't tell anybody that.
Other manufacturers strongly enforce MAP pricing - yea, even unto refusing to support products bought from 'grey-market' dealers. The most extremist amongst those will actually refuse to repair your product -- even if you offer to pay for the effort -- if you did not buy the product from a 'legitimate' dealer.
Where part of becoming a legitimate dealer is signing an agreement to comply with MAP pricing. Not all manufacturers provide incentives to become a reseller of their products; some seem to consider that they're doing us a favor and that we should be greatful.
Note that I'm not implying that all manufacturers do this. But some do. In the end, the only rule that applies is caveat emptor!
Personally, I'd LOVE to see the whole MAP game go bust....
I think the fundraising efforts to support e.g. legal efforts by various sites and/or projects put paid to the theory that people only support such things because they are free, at any rate.