What difference does it make if the FBI or Hackers are using Trojan code to log events on my PC or home Network?
Either way it is a violation of my civil rights.
And where do companies like Network Associates or Symantec get off picking and choosing just WHO they allow to violate MY rights?
If I'm paying them for software they say will PROTECT my PC/Network, I'm paying them to protect against ANYONE who might violate my rights, not just who THEY deem to be a "hacker".
I am a user of both the MS and Linux(Debian) OSs, and support both as a career. At home, I use Windows XP as my desktop, Debian Potato (I know, upgrade) as my file/web/mail server and Win2K Advanced Server as my Firewall/Webserver.
I feel each of these platforms has it's strengths and weaknesses, and use each according to those feelings.
I do agree however, that Linux had lost me a long time ago as being an alternative desktop OS; primarily because of the lack of innovation and difference from what I could obtain easily from MS, or even MAC.
I don't particularily care if MS is the anti-christ, if they became the biggest OS by less than moral means, or even if they are watching me write programs just so they can steal them and ship them as thier own.
That is the world we live in.
If an OS doesn't appeal to me, it probably won't appeal to the everyday user. If it cannot appeal to the everyday user, simply by offering features they cannot find anywhere else (one of them NOT being able to change the OS into what only a die-hard programmer can do) it will never sell. In today's world, if it doesn't sell, it goes the way of the dodo bird.
Simply put, Linux is for techie gurus. If it cannot be more than just that, it is destined to fail.
Call me a moron (no, really), but there are more important things in life than which OS is best.
First off, I would imagine the advanced peoples of the distant future will be able to figure out our primitive programming languages and bulky, clumsy storage mediums. Perhaps they will even be assisted by intelligent machines in which they rely on completely but know nothing about.(see article http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/10/043622 0&mode=nested) On the other hand, if the incredibly advanced peoples of the future are somehow unable to interperate our digital storage mediums, it WILL save them from having to look at all of the utterly USELESS information posted on this site. Not to mention the banner adds and prOn which dominates the internet, the commercials on TV, DVD, VHS, soon-to-be video games and so much more. They might beleive A0L or Micro$oft ruled the world! It wouldn't take much of all of this "information superhighway" for them to see why we splattered ourselves all over the evolutionary canvas I think...
That's about it really. Don't these companies ever think they're just about to take things too far? I mean, now if you buy something, ANYTHING, it's not even yours to use as you wish. Even if it's safe, legal, and morally correct, YOU CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT WON'T MAKE US ANY MONEY!!!!!
What the hell is this planet coming to? Has consumerism finally killed the human race?
Or maybe I just WON'T move to Pakistan afterall...
Between Napster, napster-like technology, Gnutella and other peer-to-peer file sharing facilities, the music industry, the prOn industry, hell, even Microsoft doesn't sport a hope in hell to stop file sharing on the internet.
I give up, arrest me now. I have 'shared' files, of ALL types by way of the internet. I have downloaded MP3s and other copyright infringing files through websites HTTP and FTP, by connecting to peoples PCs directly and sharing with them, by...'other' means.
Hey, I deserve the electric chair! So do the majority of internet-living people of earth.
When are the Big-buisness and Governments (I know, same thing) types going to get it....
YOU CAN'T STOP IT, IT'S BIGGER THAN YOU. BIGGER THAN MONEY!
And for all of you supporters of the music industry, and big buisnesses of all other types, kiss my ass. I'm only on this rock once, and I ain't going to spend the whole time her grovelling before the all mighty dollar.
Sure, the artists deserve something for their talents and effort, it's called RECOGNITION. What other industry besides acting, politics, and maybe POPEdom can make a human being worshiped like a GOD?
People with no money or special health benefits can still sit and rot waiting for that desperately needed transplant they require because they drink too damn much or smoke their fucking faces off, while those higher up in the economic food-chain will be able to not only make their outward appearance youthful and porcelain like, but their insides as well!
Now people can even break the big 150 when it comes to age! Now the population-age structure of the world will fall completely out of whack, the rich can live forever and still look and feel forty, everyone can drink and smoke their literal asses off, and the worlds overall population...all-time high!
Think of what this will do for the food supply! So while privately funded surgeons are making the human race's 'elite' immortal, the working class family that can't afford a fucking car let alone a boob job, gets to watch the rich soak up all of this new found youth, and wonders why the price of food has become impossible to afford.
Stimpy: Oh Joy Ren, now the Dual Celeron board we bought with 256MB PC133 RAM, is f**ckin' OBSOLETE!
Ren: Dammit Stimpy, you eeediot! Now we can't buy another PrOn Server until the Quantum Processors are released. You couldn't have waited could you, COULD YOU!
Microsoft should just follow suit with ATT and charge everyone in the world on the grounds that even if you're not using Windoze, someone you're dealing with or purchasing from IS...
I agree with Kamel, this is a crock of shit.
Any further PR attempts by these people with no real results is just going to make people know what kind of idiots they really are.
And they're happy about these extra bits of orbital debris costing less than $1M?
Wholly shit!
What about when they lose one, and it kills some $20B Satalite?
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You could almost say that if they found more of these planets, we could use them to whiplash ourselves around the galaxy...Forget coming up with more efficient fuels. Gravity is the cheapest MOST efficient of all.
Oh Oh, I got another one.
What if these planets ARE flying through space at 26,000 k as the result of some supernova of a star they were previously a member of?
Or what about some other phenomena that sent it out of orbit?
Did they even say if these bodies are moving at a faster rate than the expansion of the Universe?
Could this possibly be an alternate origin of a solar mass?
It being "all alone" out there leaves nothing else nearby. It's gravity although relatively low, is the only 'well' around, and should therefore grab everything close enough until it's own mass becomes critical enough to form a solar mass....See, that WAS stupid.
Also, perhaps these 'stand alone' planets(assuming their gaseous like all the other ones found out there) were formed by the after effect of a singularity.
Let me elaborate on that one before I call it a stupid idea.
Let's assume that a singularity needs to 'exit' somewhere in this Universe. There have been theories saying this could explain the presence of "white holes" elsewhere in the universe. But what if the energy doesn't come out as violently as it went in?
Or what about really SMALL singularities which formed during the early expansion of the universe? If they indeed 'exit' elsewhere in the Universe, couldn't they just form objects such as planets.
Not immediately of course, but after entropy has chewed away at it for a while(on both ends that is).
Are you on crack?
The article said the server was capable of 500K x 1MB hits per day. That's 500,000 1 MB hits! I really doubt you P Pro 200 is pushing that my freind. These servers are likely to be Dual or Quad PIIIs or Xeons. Your server would curl up and DIE under that workload buddy.
And sure your "PC" can run FreeBS (NOT a typo) better than it can run IIS on NT, but lets talk about built-in features. If you had to install all of the modules to match what NT comes pre-installed with (file security, user security, all the same type apps, services such as RAS, remote administration, etc...) your BSD performance would start to fall a bit on that system too.
Why is it you people always forget that?
Thanks Buddy for enlightening me on the laws of Physics.
You mean radio isn't instant? Oh...My...GOD...
My point was more that people couldn't come up with an application for such a supercomputer other that prOn, not that the SETI league should be the ones to use it....
Why the hell am I explaining it to you? You didn't get it the first time.
It sure would be a kick in the ass for the Physics community if this could actually work. Einstein said that giving the actual location of an electron at any given point in time would be next to impossible, and what has always erked me about this, is how it makes matter transportation impossible.
I mean, forget the bombs here, let's work on Teleportation. It has been argued that the theory itself relies on being able to take a "picture" of all the matter of an object and re-creating that energy in the form of matter where one would be teleported to...
If they can now deal with the problem of electron-location, then this could actually WORK!
Where are the thoughtfull, quick witted comments I have come to expect from/.?
I, although surrounded by high-end, high-performance computers all day, am quite impressed by the sheer numbers involved with this thing.
Unlike some of you, I can think of a few OTHER applications for such a monstrosity than prOn or that pathetic excuse of an FPS Quake III.
How about the S.E.T.I. league? I'm sure they could put it to good use. Or the Human Genome project?
Or that article posted about electron fission, a beast like this could definately be put to use on the location of electrons at a point in time which would be required for my matter teleportation device.
Then again, it sure would be a lot of PrOn.
Hmmmmm, Pooooooorn. (dribble dribble)
Forget whether or not the story is actually posted online, let's explore the possibility itself here.
It sure would be a kick in the ass for the Physics community if this could actually work. Einstein said that giving the actual location of an electron at any given point in time would be next to impossible, and what has always erked me about this, is how it makes matter transportation impossible.
I mean, forget the bombs here, let's work on Teleportation. It has been argued that the theory itself relies on being able to take a "picture" of all the matter of an object and re-creating that energy in the form of matter where one would be teleported to...
If they can now deal with the problem of electron-location, then this could actually WORK!
I mean really, does it matter if the OS doesn't port to Alpha, or Intel chips. So what if there isn't any GNU for all those too-much-time havin', Microsoft hatin', MP3 downloadin', late night hotline porn surfin', not satisfied with nothing...
Sorry, I couldn't help it. Sometimes it just seems as though people, especially in the open-source community, aren't happy with ANYTHING that is released lately. As if these people actually helped develop anything other than a new way to hack a program into submission or force themselves past someone else's hard work so they can distribute it freely amongst one another.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for open-source. I just don't think people truly appreciate the effort that goes into an OS these days. Everyone and their best freind's dog was bitching about the stability of WIN2K and all of it's so-called bugs, it's like, "Can you do better? If not, shut up!" I was totally impressed with the final cut of that OS, and personally, I'll do the open source thing on my own time, but when it comes to Enterprise level OS's I'll let the big-boys handle it.
And for OS X, I love the beta as I'm sure even the fellow who wrote the article of discussion did. But reading through the posts I have to say, "Do you think you can do better?" If anyone thinks so, please, release the source for such a marvel, I'm sure we would all love to pick it apart and trash all of your hard work...
First off, I'm not a hacker. I'm not even sure what phreaking means, and from looking into the sites which say they have info on the subject, I'm not sure I want to know. I am, however, a logical thinker, who tries to see all sides of the story before making a decision. From what i've been reading here, most people who proclaim themselves as Hackers(and I'm sure you ALL aren't, otherwise we wouldn't have a 'net left to stand on) are very dark, very cynical people who either feel they are above all else, or just their opinions. I have found that the few people I know who are real hackers, are not like this. I found some of these people scattered throughout the comments, and I find their thoughts both interesting and based on facts, not the type of bull that breeds these idiots I see on the streets who think they're vampires or some sort of goth.
There is sort of a mythical presence to hackers that I, and others I'm sure, find alluring. Something to the whole scene of intelligent people who have become one way or another, social deviants with the ability to bring the capitalist, facist world to it's knees, but more often, don't.
I would love to be able to hack. My background in enterprise networking and mission-critical systems doesn't seem to be offering me the kind of skills I require to be a hacker I guess. But more than that, I don't seem to fit the bill. I love Sci-Fi, Fantasy novels(anything by A.C. Clark, Isaac Asimov, William whats-his-name who wrote Neuromancer etc...), I have watched X-Files since the beginning, I have played D&D at least once, and I have conspiracy theories comming out of my ars, but that's not enough! I AM STILL NOT A HACKER!
I'm a geek.
A geek with a good job, a wife, a child, and a desire to hack when the family's asleep, and the lights are out. That, unfortunately, is not enough though, and neither is it to the rest of you self-proclaimed anarchists...You know who you are.
I apologize if I offend any real hackers, this was not posted from my own home IP address, just in case...
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I appologize if this is redundant but...
What difference does it make if the FBI or Hackers are using Trojan code to log events on my PC or home Network?
Either way it is a violation of my civil rights.
And where do companies like Network Associates or Symantec get off picking and choosing just WHO they allow to violate MY rights?
If I'm paying them for software they say will PROTECT my PC/Network, I'm paying them to protect against ANYONE who might violate my rights, not just who THEY deem to be a "hacker".
And that's my rant for the week.
I am a user of both the MS and Linux(Debian) OSs, and support both as a career. At home, I use Windows XP as my desktop, Debian Potato (I know, upgrade) as my file/web/mail server and Win2K Advanced Server as my Firewall/Webserver.
I feel each of these platforms has it's strengths and weaknesses, and use each according to those feelings.
I do agree however, that Linux had lost me a long time ago as being an alternative desktop OS; primarily because of the lack of innovation and difference from what I could obtain easily from MS, or even MAC.
I don't particularily care if MS is the anti-christ, if they became the biggest OS by less than moral means, or even if they are watching me write programs just so they can steal them and ship them as thier own.
That is the world we live in.
If an OS doesn't appeal to me, it probably won't appeal to the everyday user. If it cannot appeal to the everyday user, simply by offering features they cannot find anywhere else (one of them NOT being able to change the OS into what only a die-hard programmer can do) it will never sell. In today's world, if it doesn't sell, it goes the way of the dodo bird.
Simply put, Linux is for techie gurus. If it cannot be more than just that, it is destined to fail.
Call me a moron (no, really), but there are more important things in life than which OS is best.
First off, I would imagine the advanced peoples of the distant future will be able to figure out our primitive programming languages and bulky, clumsy storage mediums. Perhaps they will even be assisted by intelligent machines in which they rely on completely but know nothing about.(see article http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/10/043622 0&mode=nested)
On the other hand, if the incredibly advanced peoples of the future are somehow unable to interperate our digital storage mediums, it WILL save them from having to look at all of the utterly USELESS information posted on this site. Not to mention the banner adds and prOn which dominates the internet, the commercials on TV, DVD, VHS, soon-to-be video games and so much more.
They might beleive A0L or Micro$oft ruled the world!
It wouldn't take much of all of this "information superhighway" for them to see why we splattered ourselves all over the evolutionary canvas I think...
Just one useless site/.
That's about it really. Don't these companies ever think they're just about to take things too far? I mean, now if you buy something, ANYTHING, it's not even yours to use as you wish. Even if it's safe, legal, and morally correct, YOU CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT WON'T MAKE US ANY MONEY!!!!!
What the hell is this planet coming to? Has consumerism finally killed the human race?
Or maybe I just WON'T move to Pakistan afterall...
Between Napster, napster-like technology, Gnutella and other peer-to-peer file sharing facilities, the music industry, the prOn industry, hell, even Microsoft doesn't sport a hope in hell to stop file sharing on the internet.
I give up, arrest me now. I have 'shared' files, of ALL types by way of the internet. I have downloaded MP3s and other copyright infringing files through websites HTTP and FTP, by connecting to peoples PCs directly and sharing with them, by...'other' means.
Hey, I deserve the electric chair! So do the majority of internet-living people of earth.
When are the Big-buisness and Governments (I know, same thing) types going to get it....
YOU CAN'T STOP IT, IT'S BIGGER THAN YOU. BIGGER THAN MONEY!
And for all of you supporters of the music industry, and big buisnesses of all other types, kiss my ass. I'm only on this rock once, and I ain't going to spend the whole time her grovelling before the all mighty dollar.
Sure, the artists deserve something for their talents and effort, it's called RECOGNITION. What other industry besides acting, politics, and maybe POPEdom can make a human being worshiped like a GOD?
This is great, just think...(fuzzy dreamsequence)
People with no money or special health benefits can still sit and rot waiting for that desperately needed transplant they require because they drink too damn much or smoke their fucking faces off, while those higher up in the economic food-chain will be able to not only make their outward appearance youthful and porcelain like, but their insides as well!
Now people can even break the big 150 when it comes to age! Now the population-age structure of the world will fall completely out of whack, the rich can live forever and still look and feel forty, everyone can drink and smoke their literal asses off, and the worlds overall population...all-time high!
Think of what this will do for the food supply! So while privately funded surgeons are making the human race's 'elite' immortal, the working class family that can't afford a fucking car let alone a boob job, gets to watch the rich soak up all of this new found youth, and wonders why the price of food has become impossible to afford.
Lets get our priorities straight here people.
Stimpy: Oh Joy Ren, now the Dual Celeron board we bought with 256MB PC133 RAM, is f**ckin' OBSOLETE!
Ren: Dammit Stimpy, you eeediot! Now we can't buy another PrOn Server until the Quantum Processors are released. You couldn't have waited could you, COULD YOU!
Microsoft should just follow suit with ATT and charge everyone in the world on the grounds that even if you're not using Windoze, someone you're dealing with or purchasing from IS...
I agree with Kamel, this is a crock of shit.
Any further PR attempts by these people with no real results is just going to make people know what kind of idiots they really are.
And they're happy about these extra bits of orbital debris costing less than $1M?
Wholly shit!
What about when they lose one, and it kills some $20B Satalite?
You could almost say that if they found more of these planets, we could use them to whiplash ourselves around the galaxy...Forget coming up with more efficient fuels. Gravity is the cheapest MOST efficient of all.
Against WIN9x, I don't think anything ever NEEDED so many Beta testers.
Windows 95, the world's longest running Beta Test!
I guess so...
What if some civilization out there decided the only way they could escape their dying star was to take the whole bloddy planet and find another one?
Sure beats the heck out of interstellar travel doesn't it?
Oh Oh, I got another one.
What if these planets ARE flying through space at 26,000 k as the result of some supernova of a star they were previously a member of?
Or what about some other phenomena that sent it out of orbit?
Did they even say if these bodies are moving at a faster rate than the expansion of the Universe?
I had better go check that article over again...
Could this possibly be an alternate origin of a solar mass?
It being "all alone" out there leaves nothing else nearby. It's gravity although relatively low, is the only 'well' around, and should therefore grab everything close enough until it's own mass becomes critical enough to form a solar mass....See, that WAS stupid.
Also, perhaps these 'stand alone' planets(assuming their gaseous like all the other ones found out there) were formed by the after effect of a singularity.
Let me elaborate on that one before I call it a stupid idea.
Let's assume that a singularity needs to 'exit' somewhere in this Universe. There have been theories saying this could explain the presence of "white holes" elsewhere in the universe. But what if the energy doesn't come out as violently as it went in?
Or what about really SMALL singularities which formed during the early expansion of the universe? If they indeed 'exit' elsewhere in the Universe, couldn't they just form objects such as planets.
Not immediately of course, but after entropy has chewed away at it for a while(on both ends that is).
OK, now THAT was a stupid idea...
I stand corrected, the article did not say 1MB hits, it said 500K - 1,000,000 hits. I still don't think your server could cut it...
Are you on crack?
The article said the server was capable of 500K x 1MB hits per day. That's 500,000 1 MB hits! I really doubt you P Pro 200 is pushing that my freind. These servers are likely to be Dual or Quad PIIIs or Xeons. Your server would curl up and DIE under that workload buddy.
And sure your "PC" can run FreeBS (NOT a typo) better than it can run IIS on NT, but lets talk about built-in features. If you had to install all of the modules to match what NT comes pre-installed with (file security, user security, all the same type apps, services such as RAS, remote administration, etc...) your BSD performance would start to fall a bit on that system too.
Why is it you people always forget that?
Thanks Buddy for enlightening me on the laws of Physics.
You mean radio isn't instant? Oh...My...GOD...
My point was more that people couldn't come up with an application for such a supercomputer other that prOn, not that the SETI league should be the ones to use it....
Why the hell am I explaining it to you? You didn't get it the first time.
Could everyone PLEASE stop hitting the site so I could get a glimpse of this?
Without having seen it, I could think of at least one STUPID application for this(prOn), how about a shooter game. Will it run OpenGL apps?
It sure would be a kick in the ass for the Physics community if this could actually work. Einstein said that giving the actual location of an electron at any given point in time would be next to impossible, and what has always erked me about this, is how it makes matter transportation impossible.
I mean, forget the bombs here, let's work on Teleportation. It has been argued that the theory itself relies on being able to take a "picture" of all the matter of an object and re-creating that energy in the form of matter where one would be teleported to...
If they can now deal with the problem of electron-location, then this could actually WORK!
I've always wanted to reply to my own post.
Yeahhhhhhh!
Where are the thoughtfull, quick witted comments I have come to expect from /.?
I, although surrounded by high-end, high-performance computers all day, am quite impressed by the sheer numbers involved with this thing.
Unlike some of you, I can think of a few OTHER applications for such a monstrosity than prOn or that pathetic excuse of an FPS Quake III.
How about the S.E.T.I. league? I'm sure they could put it to good use. Or the Human Genome project?
Or that article posted about electron fission, a beast like this could definately be put to use on the location of electrons at a point in time which would be required for my matter teleportation device.
Then again, it sure would be a lot of PrOn.
Hmmmmm, Pooooooorn. (dribble dribble)
Forget whether or not the story is actually posted online, let's explore the possibility itself here.
It sure would be a kick in the ass for the Physics community if this could actually work. Einstein said that giving the actual location of an electron at any given point in time would be next to impossible, and what has always erked me about this, is how it makes matter transportation impossible.
I mean, forget the bombs here, let's work on Teleportation. It has been argued that the theory itself relies on being able to take a "picture" of all the matter of an object and re-creating that energy in the form of matter where one would be teleported to...
If they can now deal with the problem of electron-location, then this could actually WORK!
I mean really, does it matter if the OS doesn't port to Alpha, or Intel chips. So what if there isn't any GNU for all those too-much-time havin', Microsoft hatin', MP3 downloadin', late night hotline porn surfin', not satisfied with nothing... Sorry, I couldn't help it. Sometimes it just seems as though people, especially in the open-source community, aren't happy with ANYTHING that is released lately. As if these people actually helped develop anything other than a new way to hack a program into submission or force themselves past someone else's hard work so they can distribute it freely amongst one another. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for open-source. I just don't think people truly appreciate the effort that goes into an OS these days. Everyone and their best freind's dog was bitching about the stability of WIN2K and all of it's so-called bugs, it's like, "Can you do better? If not, shut up!" I was totally impressed with the final cut of that OS, and personally, I'll do the open source thing on my own time, but when it comes to Enterprise level OS's I'll let the big-boys handle it. And for OS X, I love the beta as I'm sure even the fellow who wrote the article of discussion did. But reading through the posts I have to say, "Do you think you can do better?" If anyone thinks so, please, release the source for such a marvel, I'm sure we would all love to pick it apart and trash all of your hard work...
First off, I'm not a hacker. I'm not even sure what phreaking means, and from looking into the sites which say they have info on the subject, I'm not sure I want to know. I am, however, a logical thinker, who tries to see all sides of the story before making a decision. From what i've been reading here, most people who proclaim themselves as Hackers(and I'm sure you ALL aren't, otherwise we wouldn't have a 'net left to stand on) are very dark, very cynical people who either feel they are above all else, or just their opinions. I have found that the few people I know who are real hackers, are not like this. I found some of these people scattered throughout the comments, and I find their thoughts both interesting and based on facts, not the type of bull that breeds these idiots I see on the streets who think they're vampires or some sort of goth. There is sort of a mythical presence to hackers that I, and others I'm sure, find alluring. Something to the whole scene of intelligent people who have become one way or another, social deviants with the ability to bring the capitalist, facist world to it's knees, but more often, don't. I would love to be able to hack. My background in enterprise networking and mission-critical systems doesn't seem to be offering me the kind of skills I require to be a hacker I guess. But more than that, I don't seem to fit the bill. I love Sci-Fi, Fantasy novels(anything by A.C. Clark, Isaac Asimov, William whats-his-name who wrote Neuromancer etc...), I have watched X-Files since the beginning, I have played D&D at least once, and I have conspiracy theories comming out of my ars, but that's not enough! I AM STILL NOT A HACKER! I'm a geek. A geek with a good job, a wife, a child, and a desire to hack when the family's asleep, and the lights are out. That, unfortunately, is not enough though, and neither is it to the rest of you self-proclaimed anarchists...You know who you are. I apologize if I offend any real hackers, this was not posted from my own home IP address, just in case...