First off, I just said that the character value is what matters, not how the character displays. It doesn't matter what unicode's replacement for it is because that same ASCII value is going to be taken as the character, regardless of whether your program/system/whatever is able to display it correctly. All you'll see is a dot or a star in the password field, anyway...
In short, yes I'm sure. ASCII 01 in DOS will still be ASCII 01 in Apple, as long as the corresponding character is entered. Getting it to enter correctly is another story...
That's beside the point. Even on some windows applications, it's a square box, but the ASCII character code is still the same. How it's displayed doesn't matter.
I'd argue with that. Ever use non-keyboard ascii characters in passwords? Throw one of those in with the usual rules (lower & uppercase, number, top-row symbol) and I'd say you've got a solid six-character password.
and instead choose to toss out a grade-school quality derision for the same reason a cephalopod squirts out ink; as a decoy, so that he may scurry away from whatever creature he deems a superior force.
I made an innocent comment about the healthcare bill. YOU were the one trolling ME, not the other way around. Look at my profile: "Karma: Positive." Maybe if you're concerned that there are so few of us here, we should stop infighting and start sticking up for each other.
And if you're referring to the hailstorm of negativity I drew further up this post, I was just being honest. I believe George W. Bush did the right thing in enacting his air security measures. Whether the specifics are exactly what we need are a point of debate, but what I will not tolerate is people saying "this is bullshit, repeal it."
I'm disappointed that there's been almost no activity out of OpenIndiana's web site (http://openindiana.org/latest-news/). It was supposed to be the next-best thing to an official open-source fork, but for whatever reason it's been dead since its release...
No, I was in Washington working for American Crossroads, Karl Rove's PAC, in the "Healthcare Freedom" Campaign. I was working the phones, raising tens of thousands of dollars for Republican and Libertarian candidates all over the COUNTRY in a red white and blue bus emblazoned with the words "STOP OBAMACARE" on the side. I was volunteering with underprivileged African-American communities in food kitchens to educate them on the unholy travesties that are the Obama administration's National Socialist doctrines. I held private meetings with Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity, and they all pledged their unconditional support and praise! General David Petraeus and I sat side by side, tears running down our face, as we pleaded for justice and freedom in our country! We FOUND the will to go on and I STOOD UP to oppression! I MOVED MOUNTAINS! I SHOOK THE VERY FOUNDATION UPON WHICH OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WALKED, SENDING TERROR AND FEAR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO UNDERMINE OUR GOD-GIVEN FREEDOMS!!!!!!!!
See, I can make shit up too, asshat. If you don't want scanned, don't fly.
"Retard." Singular. This word really speaks more about your views on the subject than your seven paragraphs; you're just a spoiled child that isn't getting what he wants. If you dislike the state of airport security in our country, get out there and push your lawmakers to do something more effective. After all, you and you alone have all the answers...
BTW, he wasn't seriously suggesting any of those things, he was trying to make a point that was apparently lost on you.
I knew damn well he wasn't suggesting any of those things; I just wasn't going to let him prod me into reacting like he wanted. You really need to learn to read into things better...
Why do they need another year or two? Or are you just spewing made up BS?
Why are you flamebaiting me? It's not a big problem right now, short of a few well-publicized apps. I just guessed that in probably a year or two more crimeware sellers would start including malicious apps in their kits.
I really think what you're doing is good, with one exception...if your parents are only using their computers at home, then that's fine, but what if they need it at work, or if they for whatever reason need to use a public terminal? They are going to have to possess some capability to use the Windows operating system safely. I'd much rather take the time to show them how to use their computer effectively in a way that may apply to other situations rather than just when they happen to be sitting down at their desk.
Yes, for now it's good enough. But the exploits are already coming around for iOS and Android. I'm afraid given a year or two they'll be just as dangerous...and the clueless will become even more clueless as a result.
The question that makes it worth discussing is what, if anything, can we do technically to stop these hacks, and, in the meantime, what can we do socially to educate?
I think we need to show them we care by walking them through the tasks they perform day-to-day. For example, checking their email. Show them examples of what to watch out for and what file types can possibly contain viruses. For web searching, show them an example of an SEO bomb. If they have Facebook, show them examples of what to watch for in terms of malicious apps and such. And most of all...tell them to call us if they see something suspicious. And yes, though anti-virus is 99% smoke and mirrors, it's nice to have one last layer of defense in case they are tricked.
Oh, and tell them not to bank online. It's way too important to know what to look for, and if you don't, you have a much higher probability of getting owned. Nobody's going to click on their online banking notifications if they don't bank online in the first place.
The people who really worry me are not the clueless dipshits, but the 50+ crowd who have never really used computers before, and through newly-acquired secondhand knowledge, now know just enough to be dangerous. I think they're probably the ones mostly in danger of falling for these scams. We need to keep our parents and grandparents educated and tell them just because a page shows up first in their Google search doesn't mean it's necessarily what they're looking for.
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It takes a truly enlightened human being to realize that no one is forcing them to use Facebook...
I have Skype on my iPod Touch; it's basically the same thing (plus IM).
First off, I just said that the character value is what matters, not how the character displays. It doesn't matter what unicode's replacement for it is because that same ASCII value is going to be taken as the character, regardless of whether your program/system/whatever is able to display it correctly. All you'll see is a dot or a star in the password field, anyway...
In short, yes I'm sure. ASCII 01 in DOS will still be ASCII 01 in Apple, as long as the corresponding character is entered. Getting it to enter correctly is another story...
http://www.jimprice.com/jim-asc.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII#Variants
http://ascii-table.com/ascii-extended-mac-table.php
By the way, that's the wrong smiley. The white-on-black smiley is Windows Alt+Numpad 1, not the black-on-white.
That's beside the point. Even on some windows applications, it's a square box, but the ASCII character code is still the same. How it's displayed doesn't matter.
How so? Alt+Numpad 1 is a smiley face. Using that wouldn't be impractical at all, except on a mobile device.
I'd argue with that. Ever use non-keyboard ascii characters in passwords? Throw one of those in with the usual rules (lower & uppercase, number, top-row symbol) and I'd say you've got a solid six-character password.
Or if he's a side sleeper, there'd be no need for a timestamp on the photo (as long as he faces away from his alarm clock).
You're a douchebag and just can't admit it.
Something tells me you're craving attention. I don't know why...
and instead choose to toss out a grade-school quality derision for the same reason a cephalopod squirts out ink; as a decoy, so that he may scurry away from whatever creature he deems a superior force.
ur gay lol.
Two million Alcoholics Anonymous members would beg to differ.
I presume that this suffices as evidence?
I made an innocent comment about the healthcare bill. YOU were the one trolling ME, not the other way around. Look at my profile: "Karma: Positive." Maybe if you're concerned that there are so few of us here, we should stop infighting and start sticking up for each other.
And if you're referring to the hailstorm of negativity I drew further up this post, I was just being honest. I believe George W. Bush did the right thing in enacting his air security measures. Whether the specifics are exactly what we need are a point of debate, but what I will not tolerate is people saying "this is bullshit, repeal it."
Whatever, troll. It was an innocent comment. The fact that it was poorly worded is a problem for no one but you.
I'm disappointed that there's been almost no activity out of OpenIndiana's web site (http://openindiana.org/latest-news/). It was supposed to be the next-best thing to an official open-source fork, but for whatever reason it's been dead since its release...
Anyone who defends this is an idiot. What did Ben Franklin say?
He also said beer was proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. He wasn't always right about everything, you know.
Winning an argument on the internet is...well, you know the rest.
No, I was in Washington working for American Crossroads, Karl Rove's PAC, in the "Healthcare Freedom" Campaign. I was working the phones, raising tens of thousands of dollars for Republican and Libertarian candidates all over the COUNTRY in a red white and blue bus emblazoned with the words "STOP OBAMACARE" on the side. I was volunteering with underprivileged African-American communities in food kitchens to educate them on the unholy travesties that are the Obama administration's National Socialist doctrines. I held private meetings with Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity, and they all pledged their unconditional support and praise! General David Petraeus and I sat side by side, tears running down our face, as we pleaded for justice and freedom in our country! We FOUND the will to go on and I STOOD UP to oppression! I MOVED MOUNTAINS! I SHOOK THE VERY FOUNDATION UPON WHICH OUR FOUNDING FATHERS WALKED, SENDING TERROR AND FEAR INTO THE HEARTS OF THOSE WHO UNDERMINE OUR GOD-GIVEN FREEDOMS!!!!!!!!
See, I can make shit up too, asshat. If you don't want scanned, don't fly.
And then you have the retards in Times Square.
"Retard." Singular. This word really speaks more about your views on the subject than your seven paragraphs; you're just a spoiled child that isn't getting what he wants. If you dislike the state of airport security in our country, get out there and push your lawmakers to do something more effective. After all, you and you alone have all the answers...
BTW, he wasn't seriously suggesting any of those things, he was trying to make a point that was apparently lost on you.
I knew damn well he wasn't suggesting any of those things; I just wasn't going to let him prod me into reacting like he wanted. You really need to learn to read into things better...
Why do they need another year or two? Or are you just spewing made up BS?
Why are you flamebaiting me? It's not a big problem right now, short of a few well-publicized apps. I just guessed that in probably a year or two more crimeware sellers would start including malicious apps in their kits.
At least you can throw parental controls at that problem. 50+ers need unfettered access to the internet if they want to get anything done.
/to you and bert64:
I really think what you're doing is good, with one exception...if your parents are only using their computers at home, then that's fine, but what if they need it at work, or if they for whatever reason need to use a public terminal? They are going to have to possess some capability to use the Windows operating system safely. I'd much rather take the time to show them how to use their computer effectively in a way that may apply to other situations rather than just when they happen to be sitting down at their desk.
Yes, for now it's good enough. But the exploits are already coming around for iOS and Android. I'm afraid given a year or two they'll be just as dangerous...and the clueless will become even more clueless as a result.
The question that makes it worth discussing is what, if anything, can we do technically to stop these hacks, and, in the meantime, what can we do socially to educate?
I think we need to show them we care by walking them through the tasks they perform day-to-day. For example, checking their email. Show them examples of what to watch out for and what file types can possibly contain viruses. For web searching, show them an example of an SEO bomb. If they have Facebook, show them examples of what to watch for in terms of malicious apps and such. And most of all...tell them to call us if they see something suspicious. And yes, though anti-virus is 99% smoke and mirrors, it's nice to have one last layer of defense in case they are tricked.
Oh, and tell them not to bank online. It's way too important to know what to look for, and if you don't, you have a much higher probability of getting owned. Nobody's going to click on their online banking notifications if they don't bank online in the first place.
I'm sorry, I think you're confusing teh interwebs with Chicago...
The people who really worry me are not the clueless dipshits, but the 50+ crowd who have never really used computers before, and through newly-acquired secondhand knowledge, now know just enough to be dangerous. I think they're probably the ones mostly in danger of falling for these scams. We need to keep our parents and grandparents educated and tell them just because a page shows up first in their Google search doesn't mean it's necessarily what they're looking for.