IMHO I love the experience of the Arcade. I've been going my whole life (and felt the merging of bars and arcades, i.e. Namco and Jilians go together like peanut butter and bannanas). I will continue playing arcade games because the experience is uncomparable to home console play (which is on a plain all of its own) and pc gaming. The thrill of beating someone standing write next to you and seeing their look of dissapointment and defeat. This is the arcade. Standing in front of a machine after putting 0.25$ (2.00$ by today's standards) and chewing through other people's money as they try to beat you. This is the arcade. Network games add a level of remoteness to a world that revolves around the human interaction. Network arcade games are great for you living room but not for an arcade. This idea to me makes no sense.
Not me. Pump the AC, or I'll just wait till the interactive movie comes out so I can take a virtual tour of the cave in my own Temperature controlled apartment:)
I was thinking more on the lines of an average end user. The advancement of tecnology allows machines to do exactly what we want. This includes and will include obeying spoken commands and one day interpretting sentences. I'll take back my saying about people don't think like that,because that is false. Programming does map logical thought clearly and precise but nobody talks like that. When you teach your kid to use a toliet or give someone directions to your house you don't give them variables you increment and complex logic tests. You simply tell them how to get there. Logically, and clearly. Automated computers will have to adapt to this in order to be more seemless in peoples lives. We are far off from this happening. (I'm 21 and hopefully I will see something of this nature in my lifetime but who knows).
Can you imagine a computer that would always try to do what it thought you wanted instead of what you said?
Well this is the challenge isn't it. Do you think that humans will have the ability to create machines capable of thought process? And if so will they be sophisticated enough to understand "what you say" and even learn? I believe so.
This is capable with the interpretation of true language.
This is a great project, since many projects don't challenge the concepts of programming languages themselves. I think programming languages have evolved over the years into the fairly advanced OO languages we see today.
With that said I feel the team of Eidola is really impressively questioning the boundries in which the rest of us work. However I feel that programming languages are slowly but progressively evolving closer to true language. Math symbols and Score music takes a serious form of training to understand and interpret. Assembly language at much lower level deals more with math and harder to understand symantics. The move to text based languages that use common words like if, switch, return, class, etc. becomes clearer to understand. The problem is still it is an aweful form of communication and idea representation. Languages will continue to progress but not towards symbols and notations but rather to pure language. Imagine ordering food at a resteraunt and saying something like:
This segment although logical is a silly way to communicate. Nobody talks or thinks like this, so why do we program like this. conversation of pure lanugage sounds much more like:
"Hey I am going to the bathroom if the waitress comes order me a burger with pickels and no tomatoes"
"Waitress I'm sorry but this burger is raw can you cook this more for me"
"This place sucks and this waitress is a bitch. I'm not tipping her anything"
"Lets get out of here!"
If AI is ever possible this is how we will program. We tell the computer what we want it to do and it will do it. Not right obscure confusing langues and certainly not symbols or notations.
Your talking about two extremes. No one is asking to make a decision between using one vs the other. The fact is, local comptuers are very beneficial because they have powerful processing power. Network applications are great because they allow for rapid exchange of information and remote collaboration. What is going to happen isn't going to be the success of web services will be the death of desktop applications or vise-versa but rather they compliment each other nicely.
and that my friend is the future
Napster isn't the problem, Users aren't the problem, the TECHNOLOGY is. People are obviously going to opt for free (everything) music over cost, but that doesn't make it right. Fact of life - people work for compensation because people need to live. When bands dedicate their life to their music they deserve compensation. The net allows files to be freely distributed (god bless the net). I know people and companies have tried to develop mp3 formats with security features, with no avail. But has anybody developed specific players or plugins.
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Obviously nothing. If they were the liquor laws would seem less important wouldn't they?
Mike
IMHO I love the experience of the Arcade. I've been going my whole life (and felt the merging of bars and arcades, i.e. Namco and Jilians go together like peanut butter and bannanas). I will continue playing arcade games because the experience is uncomparable to home console play (which is on a plain all of its own) and pc gaming. The thrill of beating someone standing write next to you and seeing their look of dissapointment and defeat. This is the arcade. Standing in front of a machine after putting 0.25$ (2.00$ by today's standards) and chewing through other people's money as they try to beat you. This is the arcade. Network games add a level of remoteness to a world that revolves around the human interaction. Network arcade games are great for you living room but not for an arcade. This idea to me makes no sense.
Not me. Pump the AC, or I'll just wait till the interactive movie comes out so I can take a virtual tour of the cave in my own Temperature controlled apartment :)
Well, It does faintly resemle the Fortress of Solitude.
I was thinking more on the lines of an average end user. The advancement of tecnology allows machines to do exactly what we want. This includes and will include obeying spoken commands and one day interpretting sentences. I'll take back my saying about people don't think like that,because that is false. Programming does map logical thought clearly and precise but nobody talks like that. When you teach your kid to use a toliet or give someone directions to your house you don't give them variables you increment and complex logic tests. You simply tell them how to get there. Logically, and clearly. Automated computers will have to adapt to this in order to be more seemless in peoples lives. We are far off from this happening. (I'm 21 and hopefully I will see something of this nature in my lifetime but who knows).
Can you imagine a computer that would always try to do what it thought you wanted instead of what you said?
Well this is the challenge isn't it. Do you think that humans will have the ability to create machines capable of thought process? And if so will they be sophisticated enough to understand "what you say" and even learn? I believe so.
This is capable with the interpretation of true language.
This is a great project, since many projects don't challenge the concepts of programming languages themselves. I think programming languages have evolved over the years into the fairly advanced OO languages we see today.
With that said I feel the team of Eidola is really impressively questioning the boundries in which the rest of us work. However I feel that programming languages are slowly but progressively evolving closer to true language. Math symbols and Score music takes a serious form of training to understand and interpret. Assembly language at much lower level deals more with math and harder to understand symantics. The move to text based languages that use common words like if, switch, return, class, etc. becomes clearer to understand. The problem is still it is an aweful form of communication and idea representation. Languages will continue to progress but not towards symbols and notations but rather to pure language. Imagine ordering food at a resteraunt and saying something like:
if(jim==bathroom && Waitress) {
orderburger(Tomato=false, pickels=true);
}
while(burger==true){
if (burger=raw)
sendBack(burger);
else
eat(burger);
}
PayCheck(tip=0);
return;
This segment although logical is a silly way to communicate. Nobody talks or thinks like this, so why do we program like this. conversation of pure lanugage sounds much more like:
"Hey I am going to the bathroom if the waitress comes order me a burger with pickels and no tomatoes"
"Waitress I'm sorry but this burger is raw can you cook this more for me"
"This place sucks and this waitress is a bitch. I'm not tipping her anything"
"Lets get out of here!"
If AI is ever possible this is how we will program. We tell the computer what we want it to do and it will do it. Not right obscure confusing langues and certainly not symbols or notations.
I think it should be call Indrema
Your talking about two extremes. No one is asking to make a decision between using one vs the other. The fact is, local comptuers are very beneficial because they have powerful processing power. Network applications are great because they allow for rapid exchange of information and remote collaboration. What is going to happen isn't going to be the success of web services will be the death of desktop applications or vise-versa but rather they compliment each other nicely. and that my friend is the future
Where do you work? Are they hiriing? :)
Napster isn't the problem, Users aren't the problem, the TECHNOLOGY is. People are obviously going to opt for free (everything) music over cost, but that doesn't make it right. Fact of life - people work for compensation because people need to live. When bands dedicate their life to their music they deserve compensation. The net allows files to be freely distributed (god bless the net). I know people and companies have tried to develop mp3 formats with security features, with no avail. But has anybody developed specific players or plugins.