Perhaps Donald Becker should take his reward for the work he's done (a considerable amount, mind you) by selling his name to some concern. He's certainly got the name recognition, so it's gotta be worth quite a bit these days to some vendor.
To drift slightly off topic (but really to amplify what the previous commenter said) the 'creeping commercialism' on the PBS network is a threat to look out for.
I can remember in the old days of the "Prairie Home Companion Show" that Garrision Kellior would mention Cargill as a sponsor of the program. He always worked in a little humor, implying that what Cargill produced was ambiguous (shoehorns? canned beets?...). These days he just reads whatever their marketing people tell him to read off the card. It seems chillingly humorless to anybody who remembers the old jokes.
So yes, it's one of those 'slippery slope' things.
It strikes me as contradictory that the "noxious advertising clause" in the BSD license (now no longer mandatory) was criticized so stridently, but that now, with Linux, it's viewed as "a good thing."
Well, I feel that the hardware should be "preserved" if you have a historic machine, but I think the software is another matter.
I'm now the proud owner of an SE/30 running NetBSD. It's an appallingly slow machine to run X on, but I still do it. I bought the machine several weeks ago for $10, upgraded it to the max (put 32 Megs of RAM and a 1 gig hard drive in it) and installed NetBSD-68K. I like to think that what I did was the junior (definitely not as cool) version of what the people running NetBSD on VAX hardware are doing.
It's cool. It probably won't ever be my primary machine (although I installed Lynx on it this morning and intend to connect it to the net (PPP) for some of my online time in the future). But it's already proven to be a useful machine, in that it's dragged me down into the innards of X configuration (spent quite some time learning all about xmodmap just to get the frickin' thing to backspace in an Xterm!)
I'm glad I bought it. (even though one of the first times I had it open I busted the seal CRT and had to go out and find another one to replace it with)
No, I probably won't run KDE on it. It would be amusing to look at the KDE desktop on it, but... ummm.... it has a 512x348 screen....
Whoever you are, you sure typed a lot of extra words after that sentence "I never heard of an 8085." I call it extra words because it doesn't matter what you said. That sentence was so appallingly ignorant that I stopped reading after it.
Get a clue. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say anything. Maybe you'll learn something by listening.
I now feel lucky that my check is in the mail ($25) for another SE/30 that I found on an online classified site recently, because retro-aritcles like this are going to end up making that particular model popular and even more scarce on the used market. The SE/30 is the only 68K-based "Compact Mac" capable of running a modern Freenix (NetBSD-68K in my case).
I don't have that many MacOS friends, but look forward to the first one who walks up to my SE/30 and notices it's running BSD with X.
Speaking as a recent adopter of NetBSD-Mac68k, let me say that it's been an adventure to get it running on an old SE/30 that I picked up last month at a swapmeet for $10. I beefed it up with 32 Megs of RAM, a 1 gig SCSI hard drive, and it's a fun little Unix box now. I'm learning to cope with the one-bit 512x348 screen, and using it as a 'bare bones' system. The limited screen architecture, and the limited X11 that's installed by default forces me to learn a lot of the real core technology just to make it a useful machine. I've become a Tab Windows Manager (TWM) enthusiast, for instance. It is nice that all that TWM stuff in the numbered O'Reilly X Windows volumes is finally coming in handy. I finally got backspace to work last nightn an Xterm (xkeycaps then doctoring up an.Xmodmap file).
Minimalism provides good experience, in my estimation.
So if you have an SE/30 laying around, give NetBSD-68K a shot. It's fun.
His 'day job' work is pretty good too. He was a theologian, and one of the modern translators of the bible. in fact, he's one of the great theologians of this century.
His fiction is most profoundly not like a lot of the neo-pagan drivel that's followed it in the fantasy-fiction market.
I couldn't help but notice that, unless almost all the questions were asked by an idnvidual with the nick 'Q' on here, that all identifiers on the questions were stripped off. Except for the mini-dialogue in the middle that RMS has with Bruce Perens (who apparently is some form of disciple... brings to mind memories of watching to see who's in the picture at the annual MayDay Military Parade in Moscow).
I can't help but think about all the pain and anguish this must be causing the Karma-whores whose questions got answered, but minus their 'handles.'
Maybe a certain slice of Bernstein's work would be called "Classical." But he pretty much wrote a lot of commercial Broadway-tune type musicals, which "have their roots" in the Classical genre, but are a bit more the 'entertanment' kind of thing.
He certainly knew a lot more about music than politics, though.
As the above commenter stated, you are showing symptoms of a serious problem. The general purpose solution to any of life's problems is not to run bawling to a lawyer.
Actually, I feel that domestic intelligence agencies are my friend.
I don't view it as "spying on me" anymore than I view a doctor examining my body to make sure I am healthy as "spying on me."
If I was committing wholesale violations of the law left and right I might feel differently.
And don't try and bunch me and all of society with a bunch of criminals by chanting that old bromide about "They came for.... and I didn't....", because there isn't a "They." It's our people out there collecting the intelligence so it's "Us", not "They."
Yes, cops are human too. In fact, one of the best ways of preventing police excesses is to recognize that policemen are part of the community. Let them in, don't react like they are some sort of external force. A law enforcement officer who feels a part of the community s/he polices is far less likely to betray that community.
Reverse engineering for interoperability is specifically allowed, even by the DMCA.
What is the interoperability in reverse engineering PS?
It seems like interoperability would relate to mail clients, word processors, etc. Or is it now okay to define 'interoperablity' as 'making anything capable of running anything else'? It seems to me like bending the rules.
Stallman in the past has spoken directly to that topic. He feels that books like the O'Reilly ones, being non-free, take away the incentive for people to write free documentation.
It is rather ironic how much money one can spend on books and documentation for free software.
Yes, I know, I know. That's how the free software developers make their money... is that really true? Not very many of the O'Reilly books are written by the software author him/herself (the Camel and Llama books are an exception).
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Perhaps Donald Becker should take his reward for the work he's done (a considerable amount, mind you) by selling his name to some concern. He's certainly got the name recognition, so it's gotta be worth quite a bit these days to some vendor.
Naw. Have some fun with it. Don't just remove the company names. Replace them with their competitors names.
To drift slightly off topic (but really to amplify what the previous commenter said) the 'creeping commercialism' on the PBS network is a threat to look out for.
...). These days he just reads whatever their marketing people tell him to read off the card. It seems chillingly humorless to anybody who remembers the old jokes.
I can remember in the old days of the "Prairie Home Companion Show" that Garrision Kellior would mention Cargill as a sponsor of the program. He always worked in a little humor, implying that what Cargill produced was ambiguous (shoehorns? canned beets?
So yes, it's one of those 'slippery slope' things.
It strikes me as contradictory that the "noxious advertising clause" in the BSD license (now no longer mandatory) was criticized so stridently, but that now, with Linux, it's viewed as "a good thing."
Well, I feel that the hardware should be "preserved" if you have a historic machine, but I think the software is another matter.
I'm now the proud owner of an SE/30 running NetBSD. It's an appallingly slow machine to run X on, but I still do it. I bought the machine several weeks ago for $10, upgraded it to the max (put 32 Megs of RAM and a 1 gig hard drive in it) and installed NetBSD-68K. I like to think that what I did was the junior (definitely not as cool) version of what the people running NetBSD on VAX hardware are doing.
It's cool. It probably won't ever be my primary machine (although I installed Lynx on it this morning and intend to connect it to the net (PPP) for some of my online time in the future). But it's already proven to be a useful machine, in that it's dragged me down into the innards of X configuration (spent quite some time learning all about xmodmap just to get the frickin' thing to backspace in an Xterm!)
I'm glad I bought it. (even though one of the first times I had it open I busted the seal CRT and had to go out and find another one to replace it with)
No, I probably won't run KDE on it. It would be amusing to look at the KDE desktop on it, but... ummm.... it has a 512x348 screen....
Install NetBSD or OpenBSD on your SE/30.
Whoever you are, you sure typed a lot of extra words after that sentence "I never heard of an 8085." I call it extra words because it doesn't matter what you said. That sentence was so appallingly ignorant that I stopped reading after it.
Get a clue. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say anything. Maybe you'll learn something by listening.
I now feel lucky that my check is in the mail ($25) for another SE/30 that I found on an online classified site recently, because retro-aritcles like this are going to end up making that particular model popular and even more scarce on the used market. The SE/30 is the only 68K-based "Compact Mac" capable of running a modern Freenix (NetBSD-68K in my case).
I don't have that many MacOS friends, but look forward to the first one who walks up to my SE/30 and notices it's running BSD with X.
Speaking as a recent adopter of NetBSD-Mac68k, let me say that it's been an adventure to get it running on an old SE/30 that I picked up last month at a swapmeet for $10. I beefed it up with 32 Megs of RAM, a 1 gig SCSI hard drive, and it's a fun little Unix box now. I'm learning to cope with the one-bit 512x348 screen, and using it as a 'bare bones' system. The limited screen architecture, and the limited X11 that's installed by default forces me to learn a lot of the real core technology just to make it a useful machine. I've become a Tab Windows Manager (TWM) enthusiast, for instance. It is nice that all that TWM stuff in the numbered O'Reilly X Windows volumes is finally coming in handy. I finally got backspace to work last nightn an Xterm (xkeycaps then doctoring up an .Xmodmap file).
Minimalism provides good experience, in my estimation.
So if you have an SE/30 laying around, give NetBSD-68K a shot. It's fun.
I didn't see anybody ranting about what hot means. Did you?
Do you often see such things?
Actually, if nobody ever bought anything because of advertising, we would all be paying $79.95 for a year's subscription to /.
But carry on with whatever your message was there....
Yes. Tolkein's work is quite good.
His 'day job' work is pretty good too. He was a theologian, and one of the modern translators of the bible. in fact, he's one of the great theologians of this century.
His fiction is most profoundly not like a lot of the neo-pagan drivel that's followed it in the fantasy-fiction market.
The debate kind of reminds me of those about legalization of rape. We can't stop it, men are going to rape women anyway, why not just make it legal?
Why do people always forget GCC?
The GNU folks have done considerably more than just write a text editor.
What fragmented UNIX was not "simply" anything.
/. a lot.
Read "A Quarter Century of UNIX" for some historical bckground. It's excellent, and gives a LOT of background to what gets discussed here on
Ummm, what will you replace the GNU C Compiler with? Gonna rebuild all your binaries with whatever you replace GCC with?
I couldn't help but notice that, unless almost all the questions were asked by an idnvidual with the nick 'Q' on here, that all identifiers on the questions were stripped off. Except for the mini-dialogue in the middle that RMS has with Bruce Perens (who apparently is some form of disciple... brings to mind memories of watching to see who's in the picture at the annual MayDay Military Parade in Moscow).
I can't help but think about all the pain and anguish this must be causing the Karma-whores whose questions got answered, but minus their 'handles.'
Who is the "they" making more money? A different industry than before the VCR, to be certain.
The VCR has definitely, and permanently changed the way the film industry operates. To claim it has "had no effect" is just plain ignorant.
Maybe a certain slice of Bernstein's work would be called "Classical." But he pretty much wrote a lot of commercial Broadway-tune type musicals, which "have their roots" in the Classical genre, but are a bit more the 'entertanment' kind of thing.
He certainly knew a lot more about music than politics, though.
As the above commenter stated, you are showing symptoms of a serious problem. The general purpose solution to any of life's problems is not to run bawling to a lawyer.
Actually, I feel that domestic intelligence agencies are my friend.
.... and I didn't....", because there isn't a "They." It's our people out there collecting the intelligence so it's "Us", not "They."
I don't view it as "spying on me" anymore than I view a doctor examining my body to make sure I am healthy as "spying on me."
If I was committing wholesale violations of the law left and right I might feel differently.
And don't try and bunch me and all of society with a bunch of criminals by chanting that old bromide about "They came for
Yes, cops are human too. In fact, one of the best ways of preventing police excesses is to recognize that policemen are part of the community. Let them in, don't react like they are some sort of external force. A law enforcement officer who feels a part of the community s/he polices is far less likely to betray that community.
So, smile at the next cop you see on the street.
How are you so sure of that?
Do you have any evidence to present?
Reverse engineering for interoperability is specifically allowed, even by the DMCA.
What is the interoperability in reverse engineering PS?
It seems like interoperability would relate to mail clients, word processors, etc. Or is it now okay to define 'interoperablity' as 'making anything capable of running anything else'? It seems to me like bending the rules.
Stallman in the past has spoken directly to that topic. He feels that books like the O'Reilly ones, being non-free, take away the incentive for people to write free documentation.
It is rather ironic how much money one can spend on books and documentation for free software.
Yes, I know, I know. That's how the free software developers make their money... is that really true? Not very many of the O'Reilly books are written by the software author him/herself (the Camel and Llama books are an exception).