It looks like the judge belived that NAC was screwing UCI pretty hard and trying to make them go under.
I agree that something is fishy and that this is not about UCI demanding the NAC space become public. It seems more like a business deal gone sour over a long period of time.
If you read the affidavit 1 (not you, other slashdot people) it is clear that at least the UCI side of the argument makes you feel like they were getting strong-armed pretty hard.
But like most things, there's two sides of the story and that's what the courts are for.
There are plenty of fair-use cases for this sort of application and if MythTV were to get sued over something like this than it would potentially not only be a good case for the EFF to stand behind but also a bunch of consumer electronics companies.
We know Orrin Hatch just created that new INDUCE bill he's going to try to pass and this is the sort of development it would try to suppress. Groups like the EFF and CE companies like Phillips, Sony, Sanyo, etc should all stand behind things like this that are creative in advancing fair-use rights in the digital space and that have clear non-infringing benefits.
They love the badger badger badger...if I seem them around campus and we're far away they start making the badger motion and they abuse me later if I don't -- and it sucks to be beat up by girls.
I remember you from pho list or something so I know you have some real clue (on slashdot, shockin!) but you are failing to understand the very definition of a "trojan horse."
What would have happened if this dude's Win2004 installer said "Type Administrator" password to continue?
You and I both know he would have done it, happily -- giddy with his pirating ways.
So yes, permissions might help in damage control but if the person is dumb enough then there's no limit to what they can accomplish! (heh!)
Getting hit with a trojan horse means being tricked, fooled, hoodwinked, etc...:)
At least it was only his home directory that got trashed, and not his entire system.
That's a very good point actually -- I take back some of what I said. This is very much a social problem but it's one that is made worse by bad operating systems and security choices.
So the real question is, what other steps can we do besides using permissions to help secure things knowing we can't get 100%? Sandboxing/chrooting/etc and other techniques seem to be the stronger tools we have available...
I don't think it's any secret that he has political aspirations -- even if you ask him -- but that doesn't change the fact that he has been going after the wall street crooks WAY harder than the feds have. He has been nailing people left and right and sticking them for all he can.
We need more people like Spitzer around to go after the bullshit without being crazy like Ashcroft.
I always wonder who the kind of people are who say things like:
I was thinking that I could simply start to sniff passwords (18,000 students and quite a few use wireless) and then place them on my webpage at school.
I mean, come on. This has nothing to do with computers -- if you just think about that for one second doesn't it strike you as mildly idiotic?
Just don't do it. If you are concerned about security, write a letter to the editor of your paper or an op-ed piece and explain what could be done by anyone but make clear that you have not done it. Just get the facts out into the public without implicating yourself or laying down threats. School administrations dislike bad press, even from the annoying school newspaper. Parents call in, kids complain and if you do your research you might find some relevant laws that it breaks by them implementing this so poorly.
Another option that hasn't been fully covered in this thread is the notion of running a stealth primary.
We have a lot of users who run a primary nameserver but never list it as an authoritative nameserver in the DNS. Then they use someone (yes, like us, or anyone...) to pull secondary from them.
This way they control their zone and TTLs but if they are running their nameserver off one machine or a DSL line or something and it goes down all of their DNS servers are still operating and serving data.
I hate to say it, but that's how it works. Companies do this all the time and I'm sure apple will make it right.
Let's take the Stickies application written by Jens Alfke for example:
For a while it looked as though Apple was going to get Antler Notes / Stickies at no cost -- wotta deal! As it happened, however, some of the nice people mentioned earlier in this story arranged for me to get a bonus, not officially in any way related to Stickies of course, but it made me feel better.
You can read the whole story about how Jens wrote the stickies program as an Apple employee and had it claimed as Apple's while they made sure it was dealt with at the same time here.
That is the fault of the person who spoofed the address, not mine.
Although I hope it never happens to you, I guess the only way you'll understand is when you personally get joe-jobbed and your server starts to flail for a while as thousands of auto-ack's start/needlessly/ nailing your server in addition to the bounces.
I guess there are still a lot of selfish people out there...a shame really; didn't your mother teach you to 'share the `net?'
So no, it's not 'just filling an innocent party's address with spam'.
Except when 10,000 other people do the same thing...
Please understand that what you are doing is being a poor netizen and not appropriate. I'm glad it makes *your* life easier but it makes others lives more difficult. Please reconsider your actions.
Well, to be honest, I haven't found a better MUA than SquirrelMail. It interfaces with IMAP perfectly. It supports SpamAssassin and I do all my filtering server-side with mailfilter.
Nothing has even come close...sometimes the speed of reloading browser pages gets to me but I have thousands and thousands of messages across about 20 folders and SquirrelMail can handle it without breaking a sweat.
It's a shame the IMAP support in Mutt is pathetic...It's pretty decent for a mailspool or Maildir but it just can't handle any serious IMAP work which just makes it suck less.:)
I've read Brendan's Mutt files and I know it's being worked on, but I haven't seen any significant change in about a year.
diversifying network hardware. (many routers fell over during SQL slammer because of packet characteristics, not because they were vulnerable to a MSSQL worm
Basically, admins need to start taking some more responsibility and encouraging their employers to start supporting their proactive, yet defensive efforts.
But that's just me...maybe people do want more 'windows update'-like systems so they can get back to their game of tetris.
-davidu
We host quite a few open source projects which require their own dedicated hardware/resources/etc. (groups include penguinppc, musicbrainz, kaffe, and many others)
Slashdot Mirror
We're adding support for SPF right now.
In fact, TXT records in general.
-davidu
The big dawgs bought licenses bro.
-davidu
Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenance
If you haven't read it and you do anything with that deals with how people interact or use technology you are flying blind.
It's one of those life changing books.
You can read a great passage on my website here.
-davidu
I agree that something is fishy and that this is not about UCI demanding the NAC space become public. It seems more like a business deal gone sour over a long period of time.
If you read the affidavit 1 (not you, other slashdot people) it is clear that at least the UCI side of the argument makes you feel like they were getting strong-armed pretty hard.
But like most things, there's two sides of the story and that's what the courts are for.
-davidu
The company in question is Pegasus Web Technology run by a Mr. Jason Silvergate.
-davidu
Code is law...
Sometimes that's the weight that has to be carried.
-davidu
Dude!
Same thing with my two roommates.
They love the badger badger badger...if I seem them around campus and we're far away they start making the badger motion and they abuse me later if I don't -- and it sucks to be beat up by girls.
-davidu
Wesley,
I remember you from pho list or something so I know you have some real clue (on slashdot, shockin!) but you are failing to understand the very definition of a "trojan horse."
What would have happened if this dude's Win2004 installer said "Type Administrator" password to continue?
You and I both know he would have done it, happily -- giddy with his pirating ways.
So yes, permissions might help in damage control but if the person is dumb enough then there's no limit to what they can accomplish! (heh!)
Getting hit with a trojan horse means being tricked, fooled, hoodwinked, etc...
cheers,
davidu
That's a very good point actually -- I take back some of what I said. This is very much a social problem but it's one that is made worse by bad operating systems and security choices.
So the real question is, what other steps can we do besides using permissions to help secure things knowing we can't get 100%? Sandboxing/chrooting/etc and other techniques seem to be the stronger tools we have available...
davidu
This should be filed under the "Humans" topic as this has nothing to do with apple or even computers.
Trojan Horses are social problems -- there isn't much apple or microsoft or anyone can do other than try to keep people on their toes.
I mean come on, limewire?
davidu
Spitzer has been doing an AWESOME job.
I don't think it's any secret that he has political aspirations -- even if you ask him -- but that doesn't change the fact that he has been going after the wall street crooks WAY harder than the feds have. He has been nailing people left and right and sticking them for all he can.
We need more people like Spitzer around to go after the bullshit without being crazy like Ashcroft.
-davidu
I always wonder who the kind of people are who say things like:
I was thinking that I could simply start to sniff passwords (18,000 students and quite a few use wireless) and then place them on my webpage at school.I mean, come on. This has nothing to do with computers -- if you just think about that for one second doesn't it strike you as mildly idiotic?
Just don't do it. If you are concerned about security, write a letter to the editor of your paper or an op-ed piece and explain what could be done by anyone but make clear that you have not done it. Just get the facts out into the public without implicating yourself or laying down threats. School administrations dislike bad press, even from the annoying school newspaper. Parents call in, kids complain and if you do your research you might find some relevant laws that it breaks by them implementing this so poorly.
-davidu
Another option that hasn't been fully covered in this thread is the notion of running a stealth primary.
We have a lot of users who run a primary nameserver but never list it as an authoritative nameserver in the DNS. Then they use someone (yes, like us, or anyone...) to pull secondary from them.
This way they control their zone and TTLs but if they are running their nameserver off one machine or a DSL line or something and it goes down all of their DNS servers are still operating and serving data.
It's a pretty good solution.
-davidu
I'll go ahead and ask it here since it's mildly on-topic...
Has anyone ever gotten anything to install on a Sun Blade 1500 other than Solaris 8?
I have a brand new Blade1500 sitting next to me at work and it won't even run Solaris 9.
It's a total piece of crap -- Debian won't boot and I couldn't get NetBSD up either.
Sun really put out a piece of work when their own OS won't run on it...
thanks,
davidu
I see dead people...
-davidu
I hate to say it, but that's how it works. Companies do this all the time and I'm sure apple will make it right.
Let's take the Stickies application written by Jens Alfke for example:
You can read the whole story about how Jens wrote the stickies program as an Apple employee and had it claimed as Apple's while they made sure it was dealt with at the same time here.
-davidu
Although I hope it never happens to you, I guess the only way you'll understand is when you personally get joe-jobbed and your server starts to flail for a while as thousands of auto-ack's start /needlessly/ nailing your server in addition to the bounces.
I guess there are still a lot of selfish people out there...a shame really; didn't your mother teach you to 'share the `net?'
-davidu
Except when 10,000 other people do the same thing...
Please understand that what you are doing is being a poor netizen and not appropriate. I'm glad it makes *your* life easier but it makes others lives more difficult. Please reconsider your actions.
-davidu
Well, to be honest, I haven't found a better MUA than SquirrelMail. It interfaces with IMAP perfectly. It supports SpamAssassin and I do all my filtering server-side with mailfilter.
Nothing has even come close...sometimes the speed of reloading browser pages gets to me but I have thousands and thousands of messages across about 20 folders and SquirrelMail can handle it without breaking a sweat.
-davidu
It's a shame the IMAP support in Mutt is pathetic...It's pretty decent for a mailspool or Maildir but it just can't handle any serious IMAP work which just makes it suck less.
I've read Brendan's Mutt files and I know it's being worked on, but I haven't seen any significant change in about a year.
-davidu
this person is unable to read clearly, why is it mod'd up?
did the moderators read the article? It's a solution for people stuck with the choice of IDSL or hauling in a T1...*sheesh*
-davidu
There is no address space shortage as reported...everywhere. -davidu
But that's just me...maybe people do want more 'windows update'-like systems so they can get back to their game of tetris.
-davidu
You host at the California Community Colocation Project
We host quite a few open source projects which require their own dedicated hardware/resources/etc. (groups include penguinppc, musicbrainz, kaffe, and many others)
-davidu