I've been running it more or less continually since I upgraded from C news back in the early '90s. Before that I ran Cnews, before that I ran Bnews.
The amount of bandwidth is I N S A N E.
Depends entirely on how many peers and groups you get. If you want to carry alt.binaries.pink.copyright.violations... yes, the bandwidth you'll burn up is insane. But why would you carry groups you don't actually read?
How much of the world's population have never shot a game animal, cleaned and cooked the meat, tanned the hide for their clothes, built their own house (or cabin or hut),...
You give up many things for civilization, yet it seems worth the cost.
The scientists gave a number of possible interpretations. The journalist who wrote the article, or his editor, picked the most interesting-sounding explanation for the thrust of the article.
I think anyone familiar with Slashdot summaries should be aware of this distinction.
Aside from all the "This comment breached our terms of use and has been removed" messages, most of the comments are by kooks or people who clearly misunderstood the article (like the guy who saw a 2s flare in Delphinus).
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I believe Gates actually said that NT was the best version of UNIX. Nothing so modest as "just another" one.:)
It takes all kinds, I suppose. I don't remember my mainframe days at all fondly... whether it was JCL, DCL, Exec, or GCOS.
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The kernel, Darwin, is open source. You can download it from www.opensource.apple.com, along with almost all of the command-line utilities. The only significant one I haven't been able to find there is "ditto", and I think they're kind of embarrassed by it, they've largely replaced it by extra options to the standard "cp" utility.
The importance of Open Systems.
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You're the revisionist.
It didn't matter if the UNIX you were running on was licensed from Sun, HP, or Dec. You could write your program for the UNIX API and move from one to another. That's WHY they failed, they were trying to establish proprietary lock-in on a platform that had openness built into the bones. The only proprietary operating system that has any market penetration now is one that refused to become another implementation of the hippie OS... Windows NT.
Not AT&T, not DEC, not HP, not IBM, none of them could keep the hippie OS from shining through. Those of us who were working in hippie OS land in the '70s and early '80s kept telling the squares that they couldn't keep the cats in the bag, and we were right.
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So could an old salt fill us young-un's in? What was it like before Unix?
Here's a typical computer job from before UNIX... IBM JCL. The following is roughly the equivalent of "lpr -Pxerox
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What is the major difference between Linux and Mac OS X?
OS X's graphical user interface is not open source. That's really the biggest difference. Boot while holding down COMMAND-S and you'll end up in the same single-user mode as in Linux. Enter the user name ">console" and you'll get a command line login with no GUI.
Which one is better?
For what?:)
Will it be hard for me to learn OS X?
Open up Terminal.app and you're running/bin/bash, with a mix of GNU and other command line programs. It's totally familiar to anyone used to pretty much any conventional UNIX platform.
The PL/M designers really knew what a low-level language should do.
If it wasn't for those meddling BASED variables, and their stupid dog.
You couldn't win. It made debugging other people's code a nightmare. I can't recall the number of times I discovered two based structures weren't QUITE identical, or alternatively they tried to avoid the problem by switching one base variable between two addresses and forgot to switch it at a critical point. And of course you could never depend on people calling their variables "something" and "something_base" so some apparently innocent assignment... AUGH... the memories.
I didn't miss that at all, I'm not disputing that they, or any of the other more likely theories, are more likely than meteors.
But this article was about the meteor theory, not any other straws Air France or Airbus might be grasping at. The only straw in sight IN THIS ARTICLE, is the meteor. And they're not grasping at it. If you're talking about other theories than the meteor, it would be useful to, you know, actually mention them...
Intel used to have its own real-time controls division, with the iRMX operating system written in PL/M and PL/M-86, Multibus and Multibus-II hardware, and a development system that ran on Xenix and MS-DOS. They systematically dumped the whole thing in the '90s, finally handing RMX over to TenAsys in 2000.
Your "intelligent variable" is just the long-discredited "hidden variable" interpretation dressed up with a bunch of hokum to explain away the Aspect Experiment. You can't close your eyes to the truth and stumble around in the dark, when a single photon will show you His Noodly Appendage!
The fact that Airbus and Air France are groping around for ANY more politically acceptable explanation should be your first clue that they are in full out Spin Doctor mode.
Um, the suggestion that this might potentially have been a meteor came from a couple of college professors in New York, abd a blogger at Discover magazine.
I'm not sure I recall the correct latin name for attributing something the wrong person, but I'm sure you have it at the tip of your tongue.
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I mean, what do we gain from having millions of lights shining into the air, that we couldn't have with dimmer, more focussed lights?
Lower case load in municipal court.
For a long time I was feeding ALL my mailing lists to local newsgroups.
And your recursive DNS server performs its own lookups via requests on port 53 to the root servers, which get intercepted by Comcast, ...
Have you ever ran INN?
I've been running it more or less continually since I upgraded from C news back in the early '90s. Before that I ran Cnews, before that I ran Bnews.
The amount of bandwidth is I N S A N E.
Depends entirely on how many peers and groups you get. If you want to carry alt.binaries.pink.copyright.violations... yes, the bandwidth you'll burn up is insane. But why would you carry groups you don't actually read?
Whack a copy of INN on your Colo and hook up a feed with your BOFH friends.
How much of the world's population have never shot a game animal, cleaned and cooked the meat, tanned the hide for their clothes, built their own house (or cabin or hut), ...
You give up many things for civilization, yet it seems worth the cost.
US cellphone contracts are barmy. We know that.
Why you think they'll be any less barmy for iPhone renters than Nokia renters, I have no idea. It's the nature of the beast.
They were also able to get High Res photos out of a .5MB security camera and spin it around in 3D.
They stole the technology from Blade Runner. Bastards.
"Free-floating black hole may solve space 'firefly' mystery"
The scientists gave a number of possible interpretations. The journalist who wrote the article, or his editor, picked the most interesting-sounding explanation for the thrust of the article.
I think anyone familiar with Slashdot summaries should be aware of this distinction.
Look at the initial bounce Google Chrome got when it was introduced:
Google Trends
Aside from all the "This comment breached our terms of use and has been removed" messages, most of the comments are by kooks or people who clearly misunderstood the article (like the guy who saw a 2s flare in Delphinus).
I believe Gates actually said that NT was the best version of UNIX. Nothing so modest as "just another" one. :)
It takes all kinds, I suppose. I don't remember my mainframe days at all fondly... whether it was JCL, DCL, Exec, or GCOS.
The kernel, Darwin, is open source. You can download it from www.opensource.apple.com, along with almost all of the command-line utilities. The only significant one I haven't been able to find there is "ditto", and I think they're kind of embarrassed by it, they've largely replaced it by extra options to the standard "cp" utility.
You're the revisionist.
It didn't matter if the UNIX you were running on was licensed from Sun, HP, or Dec. You could write your program for the UNIX API and move from one to another. That's WHY they failed, they were trying to establish proprietary lock-in on a platform that had openness built into the bones. The only proprietary operating system that has any market penetration now is one that refused to become another implementation of the hippie OS... Windows NT.
Not AT&T, not DEC, not HP, not IBM, none of them could keep the hippie OS from shining through. Those of us who were working in hippie OS land in the '70s and early '80s kept telling the squares that they couldn't keep the cats in the bag, and we were right.
So could an old salt fill us young-un's in? What was it like before Unix?
Here's a typical computer job from before UNIX... IBM JCL. The following is roughly the equivalent of "lpr -Pxerox
What is the major difference between Linux and Mac OS X?
OS X's graphical user interface is not open source. That's really the biggest difference. Boot while holding down COMMAND-S and you'll end up in the same single-user mode as in Linux. Enter the user name ">console" and you'll get a command line login with no GUI.
Which one is better?
For what? :)
Will it be hard for me to learn OS X?
Open up Terminal.app and you're running /bin/bash, with a mix of GNU and other command line programs. It's totally familiar to anyone used to pretty much any conventional UNIX platform.
I'd rather maintain that old stuff than the kind of spaghetti APIs you get these days. :(
Yes... having a regular, consistent, and portable API really does matter.
The PL/M designers really knew what a low-level language should do.
If it wasn't for those meddling BASED variables, and their stupid dog.
You couldn't win. It made debugging other people's code a nightmare. I can't recall the number of times I discovered two based structures weren't QUITE identical, or alternatively they tried to avoid the problem by switching one base variable between two addresses and forgot to switch it at a critical point. And of course you could never depend on people calling their variables "something" and "something_base" so some apparently innocent assignment... AUGH... the memories.
I didn't miss that at all, I'm not disputing that they, or any of the other more likely theories, are more likely than meteors.
But this article was about the meteor theory, not any other straws Air France or Airbus might be grasping at. The only straw in sight IN THIS ARTICLE, is the meteor. And they're not grasping at it. If you're talking about other theories than the meteor, it would be useful to, you know, actually mention them...
Intel used to have its own real-time controls division, with the iRMX operating system written in PL/M and PL/M-86, Multibus and Multibus-II hardware, and a development system that ran on Xenix and MS-DOS. They systematically dumped the whole thing in the '90s, finally handing RMX over to TenAsys in 2000.
Guess it's time for that old second marriage.
Your "intelligent variable" is just the long-discredited "hidden variable" interpretation dressed up with a bunch of hokum to explain away the Aspect Experiment. You can't close your eyes to the truth and stumble around in the dark, when a single photon will show you His Noodly Appendage!
Spaghetti is tastier than string, and they could unify biology and physics with AdS/FSM spaces. How many dimensions has His Noodly Appendage?
The fact that Airbus and Air France are groping around for ANY more politically acceptable explanation should be your first clue that they are in full out Spin Doctor mode.
Um, the suggestion that this might potentially have been a meteor came from a couple of college professors in New York, abd a blogger at Discover magazine.
I'm not sure I recall the correct latin name for attributing something the wrong person, but I'm sure you have it at the tip of your tongue.