You're telling me that I missed my own point. Good job.
The BIOS will then send ACPI messages to the loaded OS and allow the OS to handle the response to the power button. However, when you hold it down for 4 seconds, that is not treated as an ACPI event. That gets handled internally by the BIOS.
Unless (a) the OS is so broken the BIOS is trashed too, or (b) the computer is configured to always go through ACPI. And, yes, I've seen just about everything from Windows 2000 through the latest Windows and Linux fuck up the BIOS this badly on our test floor.
I'm nearly 100% certain that the specification says it should work this way.
Unless the computer is configured to always go through ACPI.
The significant energy savings would come from people all over the world who *don't* care flipping the switch on the front they normally flip and getting the computer actually turned off. Not from the dozen or three people who do care going to the bother of installing a power strip.
That's no different than saying "spam isn't a problem, my spam filters get almost all of it".
And I'm sure that's a few antisocial psychopaths who will immediately pop up and say "yeh, spam isn't a problem", well, I say arseholes to the lot of you.
Please repost your article on a site that doesn't use Vibrant's rollover advertising technology.
Given that Daniweb not only uses Vibrant's abusive rollovers but doesn't allow you to disable them without signing up, I'm going to blackhole their site in my DNS until they change that absurd policy.
So, how does it happen that the "soft power pushbutton" works when the computer is off?
It doesn't. The computer is never off, it's just in idle mode: the CPU is shut down but parts of the motherboard are powered up and listening to the power button and often for Wake On Lan from the NIC. Once the OS boots, it takes over ACPI and the soft power button has no effect.
As a result, incidentally, it's still using about 1W while it's "off". Hard power switches on the front of computers would save a significant amount of energy.
Since the soft power pushbutton goes through the OS, you can be stuck there with a computer running and no way to turn it off but pull the power cable. Not having an actual switch on the power supply is frustrating.
The real problem is the fundamentally insecure nature of the Microsoft HTML control. There is no way it can be made secure without making incompatible changes to the API, and Microsoft has been refusing to make those changes for the past decade.
its not possible to remove IE completely.
That's all tied in to why it's insecure.
Microsoft COULD remove the control, or fix it, but they'd have to rewrite Windows Update, the Control Panel, a lot of Windows Explorer either way. They built the fundamentally insecure API into the OS to try and end-run around their agreement with the USDoJ in the early '90s, and have too much corporate face tied up in the way it works now to ever fix it.
No, I mean respect, kid. Yes, I remember Compuserve. I had a low CI$ id, even. You had to know how to type to use Compuserve. AOL was the online service for people who didn't know how to type. It had no respect even back then.
Back in the '80s there was a rumor of a Russian version of the Apple II with the CPU implemented in wire-wrap, because they couldn't get actual 6502s in Russia.
Honestly, Dell has probelms shipping hardware that runs well for less than $800.
That's praising with faint damns.
Dell has problems shipping hardware that runs well at any price.
A cloner could sell a computer superior *as a computer* to the Mac mini for $300 or $400, without any difficulty. Apart from the Mac Tax, the Mac mini costs so much because it's basically a stripped down laptop, not because it's hard to meet those specs with a reliable computer that doesn't try to cram everything into so small a case that it compromises cooling and reliability.
"Perhaps AOL would have regained some speed and become the prominent household name it once was, instead of being that company who sent us all the free coasters."
They were ever anything else?
I always saw AOL as the online service for people who didn't want to type. Was there ever a time AOL had, like, actual street cred?
"Creating DRM that has any sort of security while still accommodating every legal use in every possible market is simply infeasible--though this does lead rightsholders to question the wisdom of DRM."
That needs to be reworded:
"Creating DRM that has any sort of security is simply infeasible - this must lead rightsholders to question the wisdom of DRM."
To hell with iTunes, I just want to sync my Palm (my existing Palm) with Palm Desktop on my Macbook, without going through a third party product that wants to OWN my PDA.
Back when I had Palm Desktop and Hotsync, I could sync my PDA with my office desktop and my home desktop and my laptop and everything Just Worked. Then I had to start syncing with Lorus Notes at the office, and tried two third paty syncing products, and the best I could manage was syncing with TWO computers. Then Palm gave up on Hotsync, and now I'm using Missing Sync and my PDA is tethered to my Macbook. Not only that, but I can't get it to sync notes at all.
I don't know what I'll do when my current PDA finally dies. I never liked PDAs at all until I got a Palm, I tried a Pocket PC for a while and it screwed up my data... but even Palm doesn't support Palms any more.
Remember all the alternate TLDs and the alternate NICs that got started when Network Solutions was running (or ruining) everything?
We can do it again. There's no real reason that DNS needs to be centralized, or managed by any authority. The people who really control DNS are Microsoft and Apple and ISC and the other people who ship DNS servers with the root cache configured in... and every one of us who runs our own server.
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How long before someone implements Zyngo on the iPhone?
But I think you missed the point.
You're telling me that I missed my own point. Good job.
The BIOS will then send ACPI messages to the loaded OS and allow the OS to handle the response to the power button. However, when you hold it down for 4 seconds, that is not treated as an ACPI event. That gets handled internally by the BIOS.
Unless (a) the OS is so broken the BIOS is trashed too, or (b) the computer is configured to always go through ACPI. And, yes, I've seen just about everything from Windows 2000 through the latest Windows and Linux fuck up the BIOS this badly on our test floor.
I'm nearly 100% certain that the specification says it should work this way.
Unless the computer is configured to always go through ACPI.
The significant energy savings would come from people all over the world who *don't* care flipping the switch on the front they normally flip and getting the computer actually turned off. Not from the dozen or three people who do care going to the bother of installing a power strip.
That's no different than saying "spam isn't a problem, my spam filters get almost all of it".
And I'm sure that's a few antisocial psychopaths who will immediately pop up and say "yeh, spam isn't a problem", well, I say arseholes to the lot of you.
Please repost your article on a site that doesn't use Vibrant's rollover advertising technology.
Given that Daniweb not only uses Vibrant's abusive rollovers but doesn't allow you to disable them without signing up, I'm going to blackhole their site in my DNS until they change that absurd policy.
So, how does it happen that the "soft power pushbutton" works when the computer is off?
It doesn't. The computer is never off, it's just in idle mode: the CPU is shut down but parts of the motherboard are powered up and listening to the power button and often for Wake On Lan from the NIC. Once the OS boots, it takes over ACPI and the soft power button has no effect.
As a result, incidentally, it's still using about 1W while it's "off". Hard power switches on the front of computers would save a significant amount of energy.
Since the soft power pushbutton goes through the OS, you can be stuck there with a computer running and no way to turn it off but pull the power cable. Not having an actual switch on the power supply is frustrating.
Oh yes, I thought the 6809 was a very tasty little chip. I didn't have an opportunity to do anything with it, alas.
On the other hand, have you ever worked on the 1802?
Install a Linux boot, but configure it with GNUstep and Windowmaker so it boots up looking like an old NeXT box.
The real problem is the fundamentally insecure nature of the Microsoft HTML control. There is no way it can be made secure without making incompatible changes to the API, and Microsoft has been refusing to make those changes for the past decade.
its not possible to remove IE completely.
That's all tied in to why it's insecure.
Microsoft COULD remove the control, or fix it, but they'd have to rewrite Windows Update, the Control Panel, a lot of Windows Explorer either way. They built the fundamentally insecure API into the OS to try and end-run around their agreement with the USDoJ in the early '90s, and have too much corporate face tied up in the way it works now to ever fix it.
The real problem isn't the IE shell, it's the Microsoft HTML control, and even if you quote-remove-IE-unquote all that removes is the shell.
Oh, and they also had usenet newsgroups at that time.
Yes, I remember the September that never ended.
I also remember being tech support for my inlaws' AOL service. Decently reliable? What were you smoking?
No, I mean respect, kid. Yes, I remember Compuserve. I had a low CI$ id, even. You had to know how to type to use Compuserve. AOL was the online service for people who didn't know how to type. It had no respect even back then.
Making me feel old. :)
6502 vs 8080/z80 was THE big home computer war back in the late '70s. Apple vs Radio Shack. "crapple" vs "trash 80".
Can't see the video... 404 compliant.
Back in the '80s there was a rumor of a Russian version of the Apple II with the CPU implemented in wire-wrap, because they couldn't get actual 6502s in Russia.
The article mentions "Z-80" among the parts used. The Z-80 itself is an 8-Bit CPU.
The blog says "Build the CPU from scratch, primarily using basic 7400-series logic. No 6502, Z-80, etc."
That's the only reference to the Z80 I can find in either the article or the blog.
Honestly, Dell has probelms shipping hardware that runs well for less than $800.
That's praising with faint damns.
Dell has problems shipping hardware that runs well at any price.
A cloner could sell a computer superior *as a computer* to the Mac mini for $300 or $400, without any difficulty. Apart from the Mac Tax, the Mac mini costs so much because it's basically a stripped down laptop, not because it's hard to meet those specs with a reliable computer that doesn't try to cram everything into so small a case that it compromises cooling and reliability.
"Perhaps AOL would have regained some speed and become the prominent household name it once was, instead of being that company who sent us all the free coasters."
They were ever anything else?
I always saw AOL as the online service for people who didn't want to type. Was there ever a time AOL had, like, actual street cred?
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1. How do you convince the prez that he shouldn't download shonky software just because his Macbook isn't running Windows?
"Creating DRM that has any sort of security while still accommodating every legal use in every possible market is simply infeasible--though this does lead rightsholders to question the wisdom of DRM."
That needs to be reworded:
"Creating DRM that has any sort of security is simply infeasible - this must lead rightsholders to question the wisdom of DRM."
The problem is not a problem, it's a solution.
Since it is GPL you are free to use it without any license restrictions.
"It" being G1 or OpenJDK?
Do you mean GPL or LGPL?
To hell with iTunes, I just want to sync my Palm (my existing Palm) with Palm Desktop on my Macbook, without going through a third party product that wants to OWN my PDA.
Back when I had Palm Desktop and Hotsync, I could sync my PDA with my office desktop and my home desktop and my laptop and everything Just Worked. Then I had to start syncing with Lorus Notes at the office, and tried two third paty syncing products, and the best I could manage was syncing with TWO computers. Then Palm gave up on Hotsync, and now I'm using Missing Sync and my PDA is tethered to my Macbook. Not only that, but I can't get it to sync notes at all.
I don't know what I'll do when my current PDA finally dies. I never liked PDAs at all until I got a Palm, I tried a Pocket PC for a while and it screwed up my data... but even Palm doesn't support Palms any more.
Remember all the alternate TLDs and the alternate NICs that got started when Network Solutions was running (or ruining) everything?
We can do it again. There's no real reason that DNS needs to be centralized, or managed by any authority. The people who really control DNS are Microsoft and Apple and ISC and the other people who ship DNS servers with the root cache configured in... and every one of us who runs our own server.
Working code and rough consensus.
If this could kill Microsoft One Note that would be so nice. :)