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Who Would Want To Be Obama's Cybersecurity Czar?

dasButcher writes "President Obama is expected to name a new cybersecurity czar sometime soon. This person will be charged with defending the digital boards from attack by hostile nation-states and terrorist organizations. But the question Larry Walsh asks is: Who really wants the job? The previous three people who held the post barely made a dent in solving the security problems. Government bureaucracy and private sector resistance make it nearly impossible to find any measure of meaningful success in this job, he writes." Reader eatcajun contributes a related link to the long-awaited US cyberspace policy review.

131 comments

  1. Stephen Conroy by Gandalf_Greyhame · · Score: 4, Funny

    We'll give you Stephen Conroy if you like.

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  2. Kevin Mitnick by Tehrasha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...nuff said.

    1. Re:Kevin Mitnick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bruce Schneier would love to do it, since he would be the center of attention. But since he know he'll never get picked he says we shouldn't have a cyber tzar.

    2. Re:Kevin Mitnick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who?

  3. Not Bolden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems like everytime somebody is about to be OR IS appointed for a NASA job, Obama moves them elsewhere.

  4. hostile nation-states and terrorist organizations by Jurily · · Score: 1

    What about hostile countries that are not nation-states?

  5. No! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not me! I don't want Congress telling me to "remove all references to them from the Internets" or "turn off the Internets".

    First post.

    1. Re:No! by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      First post.

      I do not think that phrase means what you think it means.

  6. is that anything like a Secretary of the Internet? by Xtifr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Obligatory XKCD link (five part story).

  7. The rights holders want it... by icebike · · Score: 2, Informative

    The copyright holders and their corrupt organizations may want it.

    They use the position to make sure one looks too hard at the invasive digging into people's hard drives and network traffic.

    Meanwhile they totally ignore any REAL threats and protection measures. (As can be seen by stories on Slashdot about data thefts left and right).

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  8. Spammers are the Cyberterrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Whoever he picks, I hope they are technologically savvy enough to realize that all of the terrorists in the world won't be able to do one millionth of the damage that's already being done by spammers.

    1. Re:Spammers are the Cyberterrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WARNING: SLASHBOT DETECTED!!! SLASHBOT DETECTED!!!
      do you honestly believe what you just wrote?
      undermining western values through naked aggression and fear tactics is far worse than having to occasionally click an opt-out for a "v1@gr@ CHEAP 4 REAL" e-mail.

    2. Re:Spammers are the Cyberterrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You're a dumbass if you actually click those "opt-out" links. Just delete the damn email. When you get junk mail in your regular mail box you don't mail a letter back to the sender to tell them to stop sending you junk, do you? SUCKER!

  9. RIAA Lawyers by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are there any RIAA lawyers left who don't yet have high level Obama positions?

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    1. Re:RIAA Lawyers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but there are plenty of israeli dual-nationals...

    2. Re:RIAA Lawyers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's already given the CNN and MSNBC reporter's jobs in the Transportation department. I figure if this Senate seat doesn't work out for Stuart Smalley, they could appoint him to run the interwebbie.

  10. I paid my taxes by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 5, Funny

    so I guess I am ineligible even if I wanted the job.

    1. Re:I paid my taxes by that+this+is+not+und · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Don't be self-limiting. There are several members of the Obama administration who aren't tax cheats.

    2. Re:I paid my taxes by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How sad is it when we start to talk about a presidential administration in those terms?

      "Just think about all the hotels they didn't break in to."

      "Don't worry, there are plenty of terrorists that received no weapons in exchange for hostages."

      "At least he didn't let all of our soldiers get dragged through the streets of Mogadishu."

    3. Re:I paid my taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is sad that GP got modded flamebait instead of funny. And it is sad that the parent got positive mods instead of having been unmodded (as there seems to not yet be "whoosh" mod) or having been modded as flamebait.

      This is why I browse at 0

  11. Bruce . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

    . . . Schneier and Campbell . . .

    . . . Schneier can lecture us on, "What is Cybersecurity?" . . . Campbell can cut 'em up with chainsaws, and blow their brains out with his shotgun.

    How could we lose?

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    1. Re:Bruce . . . by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

      My only thought for the position would be Bruce Schneier. I think he's not only competent, but trustworthy. Trust isn't the kind of thing that you can take for granted with government appointments. Regardless of how one may feel about an administration, you have to remember that there will always be another one that doesn't necessarily have your best interests at heart.

      LK

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  12. lol cyberczar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    is the cyberczar going to declare a "WAR ON BLOGS"?

    1. Re:lol cyberczar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      is the cyberczar going to declare a "WAR ON BLOGS"?

      Only "right-wing extremist" ones.

      Because that would be "fair".

      Let's see, Obama pushed auto companies into bankruptcy and shutters dealerships owned by anyone who donated to his political opponents. The DoJ is pursuing charges against Obama supporters caught suppressing votes on video and Obama's appointees force career lawyers to drop charges.

      Looks like Orwell only missed by 25 years.

  13. at least it pays well! by nikosput · · Score: 1

    Come on, you gotta know a job like this pays some serious bank. And in todays economy, that means a lot more then it used to. Sooooo...if anybody wants to hire me, you can find my resume online. (President Obama, are you reading this?) I posted it on my website: http://www.niksput.com/resume.html Also you can email me: sdn@niksput.com

    1. Re:at least it pays well! by mokus000 · · Score: 1

      (President Obama, are you reading this?)

      A /. reader for prez?
      Ugh, if so I'm leaving the country _RIGHT_ _NOW_...

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  14. ALFRED E. NEUMAN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He couldn't do worse that an RIAA lawyer.

  15. A no win situation by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1, Troll

    While corporate lobbyists dictate the infrastructure, it's gonna be a Windows backbone. Nobody can make that secure. While this situation remains, the position is a no win one.

    1. Re:A no win situation by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh, stop. A Windows "backbone" can be made just as secure by a competent admin as a *nix "backbone" can.

    2. Re:A no win situation by KahabutDieDrake · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think you forgot to include the punchline.

    3. Re:A no win situation by Ektanoor · · Score: 2, Informative

      Really? I remember that Windows NT & Sons had a too classical and nearly eternal flaw, which did not give a chance for a guaranteed secure environment - the internal messaging between progs. I met it a few times and it was really painful.

      Yes Vista & Sons probably have solved this. But after 15 years on Windows I didn't wait for them.

      Besides, you don't make backbones on Windows or *nixes. Anyway you don't use *just* Windows or *nix
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    4. Re:A no win situation by BlueParrot · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh, stop. A Windows "backbone" can be made just as secure by a competent admin as a *nix "backbone" can.

      And you CAN attach wheels to your tower and CRT, hooking it up to lead acid battery and dragging it along behind you, but it is just so much easier to get a laptop...

    5. Re:A no win situation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The NSA disagrees with you.

    6. Re:A no win situation by raddan · · Score: 1

      It's pretty easy to make claims like this when there are, in fact, no Windows machines providing any core Internet services (BGP, DNS, etc). It's like dividing by zero, right?

    7. Re:A no win situation by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

      It's getting rather predictable where the Windows proxies / astro turfers will use their mod points. To be fair to them though, Microsoft are cutting back on astro turfing budgets so those doing it have to be ruthless to ensure they are not the ones facing the unemployment lines. They are only doing their jobs, we don't take it personally when we laugh at their lack of integrity.

    8. Re:A no win situation by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

      Damn that was funny, if I had mod points or hadn't already commented on this article.

    9. Re:A no win situation by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      Some systems are inherently less insecure than others. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Everyone gets that some chips are faster than others, some hard drives have more capacity than others, etc. But when it comes to operating systems and security, a lot of people continue to insist on an equality that clearly doesn't exist.

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    10. Re:A no win situation by janwedekind · · Score: 2, Funny

      The impudence of this lie was so strong that it send ripples through space time causing momentary discomfort to a Linus Torvalds in a parallel universe deciding to go out for dinner instead of sending a post about developing an operating system kernel.

    11. Re:A no win situation by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Well played.

    12. Re:A no win situation by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Really? I remember that Windows NT & Sons had a too classical and nearly eternal flaw, which did not give a chance for a guaranteed secure environment - the internal messaging between progs. I met it a few times and it was really painful.

      Indeed, every system has flaws - sometimes severe. I think the internal messaging weaknesses got corrected in the WIn2003 timeframe, IIRC.

      Besides, you don't make backbones on Windows or *nixes. Anyway you don't use *just* Windows or *nix

      Agreed, that's why I put it in quotes.

    13. Re:A no win situation by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      I never claimed otherwise. But my point is that stating (or implying) Windows is buggy and inherently insecure is as valid as is saying Linux is inherently hard to use. Both were true many years ago. More recently... not so much.

    14. Re:A no win situation by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      The funny thing about your post is that in another conversation here, I'm getting flamed as an anti-windows shill because I dared to complain about the holy child, Windows 7 ;)

  16. Please inform them so they'll stop saying "cyber" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  17. alt.cyberczar.recovery by argent · · Score: 1

    Results 1 - 10 of about 17,800 for sysadmin horror stories...

    1. How do you convince the prez that he shouldn't download shonky software just because his Macbook isn't running Windows?

  18. New military branch needed by religious+freak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We don't need a "czar", we need a new military branch. I am not aware of ANY real and lasting contribution any "czar" has ever made in the United States. The first drug czars came close... if you call that a contribution, but from everything I've seen, they're basically PR and cheerleaders, and don't have much authority or get much done.

    If we're serious... and I mean really serious... we need a branch of the military to do the heavy lifting. We don't need to start this in a big way, but we need the security infrastructure to build on should tensions begin rising with nation states. These guys would be the grunts doing the front line lifting and poking around while the NSA focuses it's talent on developing high level techniques. This is what we'd do if we got really serious.

    In my view, the position of czar is a joke. Czars are for 19th century Russia and have no place in a modern United States government.

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    1. Re:New military branch needed by Tigersmind · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You are right. A group of people trained properly is about the only way to do this. Thing is to really be effective they would have to operate with little to no oversight. Essentially a black-ops for a cyber war.

      That idea makes me squirm. Bad enough so many groups try this already with current laws, I wouldn't want to give that much power to a unmanaged group of people. If you want effective though, that's the way. A Czar is a waste of time really.

    2. Re:New military branch needed by Jurily · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In my view, the position of czar is a joke. Czars are for 19th century Russia and have no place in a modern United States government.

      I see this as a subtle move to start referencing absolute power. Napoleon called himself "First Consul", and then "Emperor of the French Republic" after seizing total control, for a long time, because the public was not ready to go back to monarchy.

      Of course I'm just being paranoid again, and the voters have total control over the government.

    3. Re:New military branch needed by tehdaemon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Czars are for 19th century Russia and have no place in a modern United States government."

      It is worse than that. Czar is nothing more than the slavic/russian version of the word Caesar.

      T

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    4. Re:New military branch needed by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      ...19th century Russia and ...United States government.

      I'm sorry, but with the way things are going, what exactly do you perceive the difference to be? (Politically that is, we all know there is such a thing as nuclear___ now).

    5. Re:New military branch needed by Ektanoor · · Score: 1

      A military branch to fight crime? While I agree th US doesn't need a "czar" and even agree with your arguments, your alternative is not brighter.

      Crime shall no be fought by the military in any possible way. First they will shoot and then... They will not give themselves the question "whom are we shooting at"! They will keep shooting until the field is flat.

      Second, a military environment is always preemable to crime. BTW, I have already had to deal with such a case on Internet: military+cybergangs. If you want a pure "catch 22" burning under your... You know where... Just give the military a free hand on this field.

      Third, military will never give themselves the trouble of building an infrastructure of databases and longterm tracking procedures. Their methods are simple - there is a foe, track him and shoot on the spot.

      Oh, I nearly forgot to mention. Military intelligence is usually... Not so intelligent. Even foes are so badly defined, that things go wrong from the very start. They call it "colateral", I call it "dumbasses".

    6. Re:New military branch needed by KarmaRundi · · Score: 1

      These positions are never officially called czars. That's just a name the media gives them.

    7. Re:New military branch needed by Artifakt · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As a person who once held a Military Intelligence slot, I want to point out some things. Properly done, MI is all about capabilities, not intentions. That is, MI when it's working right will tell you if a possible enemy has artillery with a 55 mile range or not. Mi done right won't speculate whether the enemy has the intention of aiming it at an adjacent capital city unless the owner announces it, or at least positions it so there are no other targets that would make any sense.
              It's supposed to be up to something called Civilian Oversight to ask the right questions and pick the targets for evaluation. If the civilian government asks if a drone plane Saddam was building could hit New York if launched from the Canadian border, MI will tell them whatever they know of the drone's range, but they won't ask how their supervisor thinks Saddam will get the drone to Ontario. If the civilian oversight asks if there is any known nuke small enough to fit in that drone's cargo compartment, MI will say yes, because the US, the former USSR, and several NATO allies all have such devices.
            If the Secretary of State doesn't ask if Saddam has a third generation pony nuke (or any chance of making one in the next 10 years) before he talks to the UN about them, and jumps to a conclusion (or if he doesn't ask because he already knows the answer is a flat no), then the Civilian Oversight can deliver a report, and MI has no way of knowing if he got some parts of the report from somebody else (NSA maybe) or if he's lying. Then the MI operatives usually take the blame if any of the BS part becomes public.
              If Civilian Oversight decides it's more important to investigate Mexico's submarine warfare progress than to keep an eye on the Chinese, then MI operatives will say "Yes sir, watching the Mexican Navy sir!", even if they think it's a stupid waste of resources. Civilians define who's the foe, not the military.

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    8. Re:New military branch needed by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      This problem needs to be addressed from the bottom-up, not from the top-down. We don't need a "Czar", we don't need a branch of the military, we need someone more like the "Surgeon General" (and even that title sounds too military).

      We need someone who explains and educates us, not someone who barks orders at us. We need to look at computer security as a public health issue. People need to be taught about basic computer hygiene (just like we were taught about normal body and sanitary hygiene after finding out about germ theory).

      In the end, you can appoint a Czar and give him billions of dollars to raise an army, but we all know that's going to do squat if the idiots, the misinformed, and the technophobes among us -- still don't know why it's a bad idea to give just one piece of information to an unauthenticated person over the phone, or why it's a bad idea to plug in some random usb thumb drive they just found in the parking lot.

    9. Re:New military branch needed by Monsuco · · Score: 1

      If we're serious... and I mean really serious... we need a branch of the military to do the heavy lifting. We don't need to start this in a big way, but we need the security infrastructure to build on should tensions begin rising with nation states. These guys would be the grunts doing the front line lifting and poking around while the NSA focuses it's talent on developing high level techniques. This is what we'd do if we got really serious.

      The NSA could likely be extended to cover both ends of security (both defence against hacking and offence in the sense of monitoring enemies.)

    10. Re:New military branch needed by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      I'd start by providing the means. Education is great, but we must be practical. Doesn't do any good to talk about security or order it tightened when there isn't any approved way to do it, or there are ways but no one knows it or is allowed to use it because they're all top secrets.

      It's very easy to get mired in security theater. If the Czar can just keep the politics to a minimum that would be huge. "It's a national secret" is routinely abused to cover up problems. And to keep business rivals and competitors as well as enemies of the nation in the dark.

      Then, it seems we've put national security second to business. I'd fix up the laws too. The US has stupidly run white hats and security work out of the country. Perhaps the low point was the imprisonment of Dmitri Sklyarov for exposing the stupidity of yet another idiotic DRM scheme. In no case should national security take a back seat to DRM! We need a clear separation between real security, for the nation, and bogus security. The nation is not at peril if pirates copy the latest pop music albums!

      On providing means, I'd also take a rather different tack. Yes, sure, start a big project to create a whole new computer architecture, specially designed to run a microkernel OS or hypervisor or some such that is small enough that it can be formally verified. Of course all this would be open source. But I'd also see about providing digital notary and authentication services. Set up several quasi-governmental digital notary businesses. Maybe have the Post Office get into the business of signed and/or encrypted emails.

      Good luck to the poor sucker who is handed this miserable, thankless job

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    11. Re:New military branch needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a militia?

    12. Re:New military branch needed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem isn't that voters couldn't control the government. It is that they are too lazy to do it. Picture about it.

      I remember watching a document about some dutch philosopher some time. I didn't pay enough attention to remember his name but I remember that when the city he lived in got it's first amusement park, he was against it. He believed that such places only serve to make people politically passive. Turns out he was right.

    13. Re:New military branch needed by Ektanoor · · Score: 1

      As someone who had a face to face with Military Intelligence I would concord with your words on MI but I would note you that the question is not capability but crime. Crime is not capability. It is a process which, at least, degradates the very frame of society in every level and form.

      If we have a crime gang going wild, we need to track not only their capabilities but also their relations motives and modus vivendi. And note, I am writing "capabilities" in plural. Now how in MI conditions can you give a solution to this problem? Sincerly? Not even the police forces have an answer for it! How the MI will have? The whole problem is to mitigate, as much as possible the threat. If you can take them down, great. If you are taking down a capability and giving them more strength... Hey, pal, you are probably creating a hurricane out of a cup of water.

      If crime is the intent, we shall fight crime, not the means. Now I agree that the means, today, are pretty near to military capabilities. Anyway, Internet is DARPA's daughter isn't it? So I do agree that MI has something to do here. But not to rule the game. That's stupid if you just count for the fact that you are dealing with a foe with "capabilities".

      And besides, military are very, very approachable by crime gangs of all sorts. You may try to tell me that these are unfortunate exceptions and sad cases. You may even stand high for your brass and state, straightforwardly, that such thing ain't possible on MI. Unfortunately I know of a MI group, in a certain country, that has been using cybergangs and being used by them. What I saw is too far from the usual MI task and looks like a pornographic variant of "Catch 22".

      Oh, btw. An US staunch ally but likes to use US resources... Wonder what your cybercommand would do with them.

  19. Czar fetish by flyingfsck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What is up with this American love affair with old Russian titles?

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    1. Re:Czar fetish by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, you see, we all have fond memories of playing with mamushka dolls when we were little and...I mean...come on... who honestly doesn't love those things?

    2. Re:Czar fetish by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      Interestingly, and on a completely unrelated note, Rule 34 curiosity led me to google image search "mamushka porn" right after posting this comic and on the second page of results the movie boxes for "Dumb and Dumber" were displayed....I love the internet.

    3. Re:Czar fetish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      etymology: czar = kaiser = caesar

    4. Re:Czar fetish by Ektanoor · · Score: 1

      Simple buddy... Czar is synonim to Samoderzhec, something like "the power in himself by himself". Much like the "L'Etat c'est moi..."

    5. Re:Czar fetish by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      They are setting the ground to make people accept the next change, a very big one. Be ready to see lots of posts titled "In Soviet America..."

    6. Re:Czar fetish by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Fetish? Nonsense. You're just imagining things, comrade.

  20. ME! by iamhigh · · Score: 1

    But only because I am sure it would look pretty bad ass on my resume. I am sure with that on there I would be able to get a job somewhere, pretty much forever.

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  21. Not really... by artor3 · · Score: 3, Informative

    These "czars" aren't new super-powerful positions being created by facists. They consist of pre-existing positions that have been given a catchy new title (drug czar instead of "head of the drug enforcement agency") and advisory roles (terrorism czar).

    The former already existed. You can't complain about there being a drug czar unless you believe that the DEA has too much power. Of course, they probably do... but that predates the nomenclature used for their leader. The so-called "war on drugs" (which Obama's drug czar want to stop) began a couple decades before that term came into use.

    The latter is simply an advisor to the president. They have no powers that the office of the president does not, nor can they overrule the president in any instance. The president would be taking advice from them anyway. All the title does is recognize that he's taking their advice.

    I know there are a lot of libertarians/anarchists on /., and that's why the "czar" thing always gets pointed at as proof that the *insert currently leading political party here* are a bunch of fascists. But when you actually look at what the "czars" do, you quickly realize that it's entirely in keeping with our democratic republic.

    1. Re:Not really... by longacre · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Obama HAS created new super-powerful positions, for example the new "Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change," aka the Environment Czar, to which he appointed Al Gore buddy Carol Browner. Never in White House history have cabinet members reported to a czar, but today the Secretaries of Energy and Interior, and the EPA Administrator don't report to the President but to a private citizen who has never been vetted by the Senate.

    2. Re:Not really... by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 3, Informative

      They don't have any of the constitutional powers of cabinet member, why would they have to be vetted by the senate? The president has the constitutional right to chose how, when or if at all to listen to cabinet members. In the end it's merely a slightly higher profile presidential aide.

  22. The difference by bonch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The difference this time is that Obama is a Democrat, so the media will ignore the czar's complete ineffectiveness and never criticize anything he or she does.

    1. Re:The difference by MrMista_B · · Score: 0, Troll

      Heh, I take it you don't watch American news, at least you haven't at any time during the past ten years. Remember the American invasion of Iraq? The destruction of Katrina?

      Etc. - my point being that, during that time, pretty much everyone in the Bush presidency got a free ride. The media basically said 'aww shucks, wull I guess he just gosh darned tried his best, and that's what counts, right?'

      In contrast, the scrutinty and out-for-blood nature of most of the news coverage of the Obama campaign since it began has been absolutely viciously hostile.

      So what was your point again?

    2. Re:The difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Heh, I take it you don't watch American news, at least you haven't at any time during the past ten years. Remember the American invasion of Iraq? The destruction of Katrina?

      Etc. - my point being that, during that time, pretty much everyone in the Bush presidency got a free ride....

      Are you really trying to say that there's been no attempt to blame Bush for Katrina and Iraq?

      What universe have you been living in, you mouth-breathing moron?

      Because I want to know where you could have possibly been were there hasn't been overwhelming coverage of those events.

      You probably really do think it's Bush's fault that a massive fucking hurricane waxed a city built below sea level right on the water in the most hurricane-prone area of the entire damn planet.

      That makes you a shining beacon of hope for every brainless shithead on the planet. The fact that such an unthinking jackass like yourself can actually figure out how to use a computer to make your fantasy-based post must mean that even an anencephalic rhesus monkey could one day be a billionaire.

      Thank you for showing anencephalic rhesus monkeys that even they have hope.

      As for the "out-for-blood nature" of the coverage Obama's getting, please tell us how many major news outlets are going to run with these:

      In which the president discovers an American intelligence agency at Five Guys

      Yep, that's right - the oh-so-well-prepared and oh-so-fucking-smart Obama had never heard of these guys before going into a burger joint.

      Career lawyers overruled on voting case

      Justice Department political appointees overruled career lawyers and ended a civil complaint accusing three members of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense of wielding a nightstick and intimidating voters at a Philadelphia polling place last Election Day

      Think that's going to be above the fold on tomorrow's NY Times and Washington Post, or featured on NBC, CBS, or CNN?

      The sad thing is, you probably really do think you're smart. But then again, most morons don't know they're morons.

    3. Re:The difference by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      The difference this time is that Obama is a Democrat, so the media will ignore the czar's complete ineffectiveness and never criticize anything he or she does.

      You're not just trolling, are you? You actually believe that. Dear God.

      Have you actually read a newspaper, or watched a TV news program, or listened to a radio news show, at any point during Obama's administration? Or during the Clinton administration? Or during the Carter administration, assuming you're old enough to remember that? Ever?

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      The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
    4. Re:The difference by Artifakt · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't think you can claim fairly that the Bush administration got a free ride the whole ten years - the first few after Sept 11th, maybe, but not nearly so much by Katrina.
                However, when the Governor of Illinois recently got into trouble, CNN and NBC (both part of what Fox calls the liberal media), ran pieces on it. They both printed a quote from a phone conversation involving the perp, where he essentially said 'Obama's whole staff were Boy-scouts. When he tried to hit Obama up for a kickback through them, they wouldn't offer anything that wasn't totally legal.' Both networks then ran headlines saying Obama had some serious explaining to do. News-flash - when the crook is on tape saying your whole organization is too squeaky clean for his taste, you have no obligation to 'explain' that. Saying to the guy who didn't offer or accept a crooked deal that he has an obligation to explain why the criminal even thought their might be a chance for one is attacking the known victim of an attempted criminal act, just like blaming the victim of an attempted rape for dressing provocatively. So I'll give you your 'viciously hostile'.

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  23. Whats a Cybersecurity Czar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh no matter, pick me....

  24. I'd Take the job by TiggertheMad · · Score: 1

    Here is why you would want it: You have the ear of the president of the USA. You get to put down on your resume that you were the cyber-security czar.

    Yeah, the very idea that a cyber-security czar has any control over US cyber-security is truly silly, but who knows. Your suggestions might get a few positive changes to be made, and in the event of a catastrophic cyber-security catastrophic event (like, terrorists flying virtual 747s into the virtual world trade center in Microsoft's flight simulator...) you can just resign and write a tell all book about how you were prevented from doing the right thing by idiots and red tape.

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  25. I nominate BOFH by linzeal · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am sure he will find away around this so called bureaucracy of yours as he has been doing quite well for himself in the private sector.

    Of course with the new job comes new nomenclature, I present to you ladies and gentlemen the BCCFH (The bastard cybersecucurity czar from hell) and don't worry about assigning him any more power than a normal UNIX sysadmin, he'll get the job done.

  26. I pay my taxes every year, by argStyopa · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...so clearly I'm not qualified to be on Obama's cabinet.

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  27. I vote for Kevin Mitnick by Ouchie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In this type of political postion reputation and personality are as important as your knowledge. Kevin has shown in his legal employment history an aptitude to address cyber security in a way that draws the necessary attention to the issue. His crimial history gives him the legitimacy with both sides of the issue.

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    1. Re:I vote for Kevin Mitnick by mistahkurtz · · Score: 1

      condor, is that you?

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  28. Mission Impossible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They want everyone else to be insecure and theirs super secure. Leaving run of the mill networks insecure as to leave a bait, to see who is doing what and let them think they are getting something. But in actuality the top brass practices such compartmentalized security right down to the electronic emissions computers make. Even Apple has compromised their security to play nice with Uncle Spook. Java exploit still not patched and it's been 7 months now.

  29. Bill Gates, of course by xednieht · · Score: 1

    Arguably, few have had more experience dealing with gaping software security vulnerabilities than the big kahuna himself.

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  30. Enough with the Czars by assertation · · Score: 1

    I think Regan was the one who started giving government officials the the nickname of the "The _______ Czar". In every case the problem assigned to the Czar never went away and often got worse. You would think that term would fall out of use. You want to guarantee a problem will not go away? Appoint a Czar to oversee it.

  31. Morrison! by Ektanoor · · Score: 1

    Mitnick is a great guy. But he is too specific on creating a mess. Besides, too private and he seems even shy...

    Go for Morrison... He knows how to make a real worldwide mess out of Internet.

  32. Theo de Raadt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously!

  33. The answer is obvious by mqduck · · Score: 5, Funny

    Cowboy Neal.

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  34. Doesn't sound so bad actually... by iamdrscience · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd take this job in a second. The position has a track record of failure and thus, expectations are low. This is exactly the kind of job I'm looking for. If you succeed, you're a miracle worker, if you fail, nobody blames you, either way it's not bad. It looks even better when you add in the fact that the pay is good and you have an awesome title. I mean c'mon, you'd be a freaking czar, how many people can legitimately put "Czar" on their resume?

    1. Re:Doesn't sound so bad actually... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      In old country, we shoot Czars. Not to be wanting this, I think.

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    2. Re:Doesn't sound so bad actually... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Absolutely! You have a lot of press conferences where you announce all the solutions that you know will never be accepted, then it's never your fault. You crow about all your 'victories' (anything you can reasonably take any credit for) and make some sneaky deals to get yourself a CIOship when you leave. S.O.P.

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  35. Sounds like a challenge by PacketScan · · Score: 1

    I'll do it

  36. I'll do it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mixture of OSs. Some Win, some BSD, some Linux, some OS-X, different flavors of each. Mixture of N, N-1, and N-2 security patches (in case a patch introduces a new 'sploit).

    Range of machine architectures. X86, PPC, ARM, Itanium, Sparc, whatever else is around.

    Public facing machines behind firewalls and only open the needed ports.

    On corporate or government systems that are only used for tasks like word processing or spreadsheets, the ability for normal user accounts to run executables other than the system ones is disabled.

    Machines needing top security are airgapped to the public internet.

    I could go on. But the above stuff would go a long ways.

    1. Re:I'll do it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was typing EX before you typed SPLOIT really so difficult?
      In fact, the apostrophe and the S together make the damned word just as long as EXPLOIT.
      What was the point of 'sploit? Does it make you look like a hacker?

      what
      the
      fuck

  37. I'd take the Job! by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1, Funny

    Of course, I'm not qualified but we're talking about the U.S. government here so since when would that matter?

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  38. Private Sector by chrispycreeme · · Score: 1, Troll

    I'm a huge fan of this administration but in this particular case I think the private sector could do a much better job protecting against threats than any Czar. Besides, I hate anyone who's title has a C followed by a Z in it, that's just not right. Drop the "c" or just say: "KaZaar!".

  39. Me me me by buchner.johannes · · Score: 1

    There will be lolcats all over the place, I promise! ;-)

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  40. Re:Theo de Raadt!! by apenzott · · Score: 1

    I second this motion.

    He has the gumption to challenge security by (proprietary) obscurity.

    With his hands-on experience with DARPA, he knows how it is broken and what needs fixing.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_de_Raadt#DARPA_funding_cancellation

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  41. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this sounds like a job for Public Security Section 9.

  42. How Much Does it Pay? by florescent_beige · · Score: 1

    EOM

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  43. Who wants the job? by wowbagger · · Score: 1

    Who wants the job? Perhaps somebody who wants to have power, without all that pesky "running for office and actually being elected by the people" stuff. Somebody who wants to make rules about how everybody is to run their computers, without all that pesky "being responsible for what goes wrong" stuff.

  44. Obviously it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chuck Norris.
    The internet was developed from observing his CNS.

  45. Stallman by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    Would love to see him in a fake photo with Czar clothes. Maybe he goes forward to the czar role, pushes us to the open source communism and Ballmer starts calling him Stalinman.

  46. czar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some non-tech yes man.
    Preferably visible minority.
    Why interrupt the pattern.

  47. I'd like to be but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    but I'm an employed white male who wouldn't base my decisions on my perceptions of social injustice brought about by my situation.

  48. There's only one man for the job by Alzheimers · · Score: 1

    The man who's name is synonymous with Security: Peter Norton

  49. I'll take... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    King of the Internet. I already provide half the commentary on it.

  50. Re:New military branch needed, not so much by aoeu · · Score: 1

    NSA?

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  51. Adriel Desautels, CTO of Netragard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy's a hard-core hacker and pen-tester who's helping to lock down banks. He does not do politics. He's just hard-core about locking down networks.

  52. How I Would Do It by Bob9113 · · Score: 1

    Here's my quick, from the hip view on how to maximize the probability of a successful outcome:

    Cybersecurity is focused on maintaining control of systems and networks. Cyber-warfighting is a valuable source for understanding potential threats, but it is not the objective of the cybersecurity committee to advance the state-of-the-art of cyber-warfighting.

    To advance the ability of the citizens and organizations of the United States to retain control of their information systems, an elite task-force will be formed:

      1. Retain Bruce Schneier
      2. Retain Ten Specialists, Bruce's Choice, Following Criteria:
      2.1. One EFF Constitutional Rights specialist
      2.2. One ACLU Constitutional Rights specialist
      2.3. One significant code contributor from the NSA SE:Linux project
      2.4. Two information security specialists from among:
      2.4.1. Microsoft
      2.4.2. Google
      2.4.3. Apple
      2.4.4. IBM
      2.5. Two espionage defense specialists from among:
      2.5.1. General Dynamics
      2.5.2. GE
      2.5.3. Boeing
      2.5.4. Halliburton
      2.6. Three platform specialists
      2.6.1. Microsoft
      2.6.2. Mac
      2.6.3. *nix
      3. Specialists Get One Vote Each
      4. Bruce Gets Tie-Breaker Vote
      5. Each Specialist Can Employ Two Research Specialists

    Votes are expected to be unanimous or nearly unanimous - non-unanimous decisions imply that every member of the panel is failing. It is every member's job to think critically, to respect diverse needs, and to help the others understand their perspective. Failure to do so implies betrayal of duty.

    All votes will be secret for at least one year. Sensitive votes will be secret for five years.

    Sensitive entities (corporations, organizations, government agencies) get free advanced training, room, and board, conducted at a military academy. Security practitioners get preferred enrollment. Corporations must continue to pay the employee. Corporations can choose not to send anyone, but the name of any sensitive corporation which chooses not to send some top rank security specialists will be published. It's tough, but fair, and necessary.

    Curriculum will focus on practices for keeping each system under the full control of its owner. Curriculum will not sacrifice that mission to advance the ability of any non-owner of a system to compromise full control by the owner of that system.

    1. Re:How I Would Do It by robinjo · · Score: 1

      So, you assemble a group of people from different big companies and vastly different backgrounds and expect them to do a good job, think critically and be unanimous? Are you really serious?

      If you bring together a big enough group of experts, they seldom are unanimous. Add the outside influence from the big companies and you'd have a recipe for failure.

      The group would avoid changing anything big as it would only lead to conflicts. After a while the brightest people would get frustrated and leave. After adding less ambitious people, that group would probably be very good at making decisions on very insignificant matters. Also known as wasting time and money.

    2. Re:How I Would Do It by Bob9113 · · Score: 1

      If you bring together a big enough group of experts, they seldom are unanimous.

      I only suggested an 11-person committee. But that is the less important point.

      In politics, religion, and art, I agree completely. In science, I do not.

      Perhaps they could not agree on the finest nuance, but they could agree on the color of the carpeting in the room they are in.

      From there, they can move to "Should encryption be employed when transmitting sensitive data over the Internet?"

      Then "Is AES-256, if implemented perfectly, sufficient security for sensitive data at present?"

      Certainly every security practitioner can agree on those questions. Then they move forward one agreement at a time until they reach a point on which they cannot agree. At that point, they ask themselves; "Should the government make this decision on which we, as scientists, cannot agree?"

      If the members of the committee cannot agree on solutions, yet still believe that the government should impose decisions on society, then they have failed in their duty and should be replaced.

      When you reach the point where each successive committee bickers without finding common ground, it necessarily implies that the remaining threat is insufficient to warrant concern. If their differences are more important to them than finding a solution, at that point the problem is no longer serious enough to offset the imperfect hand of government.

    3. Re:How I Would Do It by MRe_nl · · Score: 1

      Jonathan James, Adrian Lam, Kevin Mitnick, Kevin Poulsen, Robert Tappan Morris.

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    4. Re:How I Would Do It by Bob9113 · · Score: 1

      Jonathan James, Adrian Lam, Kevin Mitnick, Kevin Poulsen, Robert Tappan Morris.

      Those guys should be on the cyber-warfighting committee. And should play war games against the cybersecurity team.

  53. RE: Our Nazi Racist 'n Chief by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like our Nazi Racist 'n Chief President Barak Obama is painting himself in a corner quicker than Alolf Hitler ... and will end the same. At least, perhaps, the US will not invade Poland, in its search of cyber weapons of mass destruction, in order to justify the invasion of Poland and the killing of civilians.

  54. Greed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only people who would want to be the Cyber Czar would be those who'd be in it for personal benefits.
    Hopefully, this means that more moral and qualified people would want to keep the job just to keep it out of shitty hands.

  55. Eh. by SphericalCrusher · · Score: 1

    For something like this, I honestly don't like the idea of having one person behind it. What happens if he's murdered? I mean, if a group of professions honestly want to hack the U.S.... the poor son of a bitch who is the "Cyber Czar" is going to take a hit. Rather physical, such as being sniped or just having his shit hacked... he will be knocked out of the way.

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  56. It's a political, leadership role by cheros · · Score: 1

    For this job you need someone who has political savvy and can indeed show leadership coupled with diplomacy - and on top of that he needs to have at least a degree of technical competence to ensure someone isn't telling him lots of guff.

    If I wasn't non US I'd be interested as I've done this a few times before. I built the fundamentals on a large government work when nobody was interested in collaboration, and I did international interoperability where the group I worked with was talked with making it happen but was placed at totally the wrong level to have any clout whatsoever. And we managed regardless by working at the human level.

    The technical stuff is the easy part. Dealing with the human side of things is the hard work, but it's fun too. If you get the right team you can steer them in the rightdirection, form them and let them get ready for when you have the breakthrough (it sort of happens in parallel, but you need more focus on a strategic aim than a tactical effort to drive it in the right direction).

    But I'm rambling now. What I wanted to say is that it is NOT an impossible job. But it certainly isn't going to be an easy one for the first few years.

    As a matter of fact, if your understanding of a job at that level is simply staying out of trouble you are the wrong person for the job. You will really have to commit yourself.

    Whoever gets the job, he/she has my respect.

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    1. Re:It's a political, leadership role by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please please please don't trot out some retired govie who was struggling with the technology of the mid and late 90s when he/she left government...then moved to the private sector to make a few bigger, easier dollars....and now is looking for another federal beauty queen/homecoming king title to stick at the top of their resume.

      Find somebody who has fundamental understanding of the technology they are charged with securing as it exists today...not as they once understood it 20 or 30 years ago.

      Please.

      Please.

  57. It depends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Must this new cyber-czar claim expenses that (mostly) correlate to the price of hookers and blow consumed?

  58. I nominate... by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    ...Leo Laporte!

    He'll show them crackers what for!

  59. Have a real one! by FilatovEV · · Score: 1

    Why to have a cybersecurity Czar? Better have a real one. The American Czar will establish an Empire, and it's a kewl thing. People think that a Czar is Undemocratic, but when you have a Czar it's he who would decide what is Democratic. In America, every Citizen would have a right to be the Czar, but the only Czar would be Obama, because it's Democratic.

  60. Bruce Schneier would be a great fit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Technical knowledge, ability to look at problems objectively, stay apprised of a variety of threats, and organize information for the ready consumption of others.

  61. Were the job not limited to just security? by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

    If the job wasn't limited to security, I'd say Wozniak.

    If the job is limited to security, all they'll need is an ineffectual mid-grade bulletstopper. This will make it a true government operation. Same as it ever was and all that.

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  62. ME by stanjam · · Score: 1

    I'll do it, no problems.

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  63. Re:Please inform them so they'll stop saying "cybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t? I had to look that up.

    What the hell was wrong with SSIA that we needed something shorter and more cryptic?

    There are some seriously lazy bastards on the tubes these days.