is to spend lots of time talking about SAT scores. People will think you are cool and smart and want to work for below market wages for the prestige of being associated with chronological adults who think the key criteria of future success is what you did one weekend morning while you were in high school. I find folks who are that insightful altogether magnetic.
All of them? That's assuming a lot there, cupcake.
While IT might blow mightily, you can still work it right so you have to speak to fewer thick tongued dolts during the day than you would in many other jobs. Time is the scarce resource. Do you really want to spend it with the general public?
Not to me anyway. I've already made my one large upgrade and that blessed microsoft machine is powered down and will stay that way until I get around to putting SUSE on it. I can't think of anything I couldn't do today for lack of a Microsoft product, except maybe reboot 6 times.
I agree that we would be better off without those who entered the field because they thought they could make a quick buck.
You say that 'Real Engineers' are 'sticking around for the long haul.' Who elected you spokesman? How do you know? You can love technology and chose to do non-technical work for a variety of reasons, mostly having to do with paying the bills. There are fewer jobs than job seekers and the person doing the hiring is as likely to be an MBA with a hairdo than someone with a clue as to who is competent. Your analysis seems to suggest that Economics has no bearing on decisions related to technology and in that regard you may be closer to the dot-bomb biz-dev twinks than you care to admit.
And on of the goals is to prepare good little code drones who follow orders even when they are irrational. So code away, do your own work, square the circle till you're tired...
I have been doing development on the east coast, also for 20 years, 10 of them as a consultant. I can think of no reason to continue developing here. I've always done development as a business, and as a business, the margins are no longer compelling.
I agree that it seems the gov't is hostile to individual software developers here. I suspect that as a group, individual developers are under-represented. We have no lobbyists. The body shops do, and chapter 1706 of the tax code of 1986 is an example of the results.
Quite a compelling argument you have here, and such an intelligent way of expressing it.
I suggest that all huge corporations avail themselves of the wonderful productivity gains and cost savings to be had by using less expensive foreign labor. I also suggest that when problems arise, they go to Bangalore for help.
Don't kid yourself. This wasn't true in the last recession and it isn't true now.
Lazy, overpaid contract programmers or hyper-thyroid code wizards, each is out of luck if there are no jobs. And if there are fewer jobs, well of course those will always go to the best programmers. After all, the PHBes of the world are alway adept at telling good from bad.
I don't think that too many of the business failures in the last year can be attributed to the code not being cool enough. If the worthies with the mbas and hairdos drive the business into the ground, everyone is out of work. Maybe competence helps in securing new work, but I suspect often price wins out and the job goes to the cheapest alternative.
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I have waited so long to be told what to believe.
I've seen your support and RedHat will continue to get my money.
I shall now sing about brave sir robin in honor of the aclu.
Why do we need to tell him anything?
Seagate? The decider and his goons? HP?
is to spend lots of time talking about SAT scores. People will think you are cool and smart and want to work for below market wages for the prestige of being associated with chronological adults who think the key criteria of future success is what you did one weekend morning while you were in high school. I find folks who are that insightful altogether magnetic.
No taxes! Yes! Let me guess, no education either. You don't have to buy books, and that's taken into account in that salary too, right?
Well, I am trying to forget about them, and their guns and their trailer parks, and their nascar, and their flippin decider now that I think about it.
All of them? That's assuming a lot there, cupcake.
While IT might blow mightily, you can still work it right so you have to speak to fewer thick tongued dolts during the day than you would in many other jobs. Time is the scarce resource. Do you really want to spend it with the general public?
Not to me anyway. I've already made my one large upgrade and that blessed microsoft machine is powered down and will stay that way until I get around to putting SUSE on it. I can't think of anything I couldn't do today for lack of a Microsoft product, except maybe reboot 6 times.
you know, manufacturing.
Never mind the system. We've found someone to blame. Clearly that tech's job should be outsourced to the great unwashed!
I agree that we would be better off without those who entered the field because they thought they could make a quick buck.
You say that 'Real Engineers' are 'sticking around for the long haul.' Who elected you spokesman? How do you know? You can love technology and chose to do non-technical work for a variety of reasons, mostly having to do with paying the bills. There are fewer jobs than job seekers and the person doing the hiring is as likely to be an MBA with a hairdo than someone with a clue as to who is competent. Your analysis seems to suggest that Economics has no bearing on decisions related to technology and in that regard you may be closer to the dot-bomb biz-dev twinks than you care to admit.
How about StewpidLitigiousHasBeen Ranch? Would Sun see that as a trademark infringement?
um, yeah sure. and Al Haig is in charge.
And on of the goals is to prepare good little code drones who follow orders even when they are irrational. So code away, do your own work, square the circle till you're tired...
Sometimes they do, yes. Sometimes they get frustrated enough to pay me $150/hr to clean up the mess. Often enough, in fact.
I have been doing development on the east coast, also for 20 years, 10 of them as a consultant. I can think of no reason to continue developing here. I've always done development as a business, and as a business, the margins are no longer compelling.
I agree that it seems the gov't is hostile to individual software developers here. I suspect that as a group, individual developers are under-represented. We have no lobbyists. The body shops do, and chapter 1706 of the tax code of 1986 is an example of the results.
Quite a compelling argument you have here, and such an intelligent way of expressing it.
I suggest that all huge corporations avail themselves of the wonderful productivity gains and cost savings to be had by using less expensive foreign labor. I also suggest that when problems arise, they go to Bangalore for help.
...but good ones will always find a job.
Don't kid yourself. This wasn't true in the last recession and it isn't true now.
Lazy, overpaid contract programmers or hyper-thyroid code wizards, each is out of luck if there are no jobs. And if there are fewer jobs, well of course those will always go to the best programmers. After all, the PHBes of the world are alway adept at telling good from bad.
I don't think that too many of the business failures in the last year can be attributed to the code not being cool enough. If the worthies with the mbas and hairdos drive the business into the ground, everyone is out of work. Maybe competence helps in securing new work, but I suspect often price wins out and the job goes to the cheapest alternative.