Because people seem incapable of regulating themselves... so they do things like set up shop in front of someone's house.
And government does a much better job of that, arresting little girls for selling lemonade and cookies. I'll take the occasional non-regulating adult if we can get rid of government over regulating every last aspect of our lives. Security vs Liberty and all that.
"unlicensed and unauthorized" is the real problem IMHO. WHY must everything require a license by the state? Why does it bother you that selling food to earn a living, and is such a problem that it needs government intervention?
This is why we suck as a people, that the unnatural reaction to everything is "Need a permit, pay fees, regulatory licenses and taxes" to earn a fucking living? WHY?
Which is probably why the "if" in your first sentence is returning false. And quite frankly, if it bothered you, you should politely ask them to go somewhere else, before calling the cops. Avoid being a dick, by being kind and human whenever possible.
I would say something like "Hey, I really wish you'd move to some other location, but those strawberries look yummy. If you move, I'll get a flat."
We are living in an increasingly crass society. Be the change you want to see in the world. If you like assholes, be an asshole. I prefer not to be an asshole.
Who is a scofflaw? The street vendor? They have done nothing wrong but trying to EARN a living. I am a Libertarian, and this kind of response by you (assuming you really are anti-street vendor) is shameful. The real villains in this are all the people who think people earning a living is somehow evil. The worse ones are the ones that think they need regulating at all, simply because some elitist doesn't like them.
And there you have it, the same solution the asshole of the story wants. "I don't like what they are doing, lets require permits to earn a living"
This kind of nanny state solution is exactly why the Elites of the world (like this asshole) think they can control others.
Here's my thought. Is the road, sidewalk or otherwise public? Then ignore the whiny asshole. Fuck adding layers of additional government control on people, we have enough already. ENOUGH already. WHY must the solution to every whiny asshole be "More Regulation"???
And there is the point I was making. the "OMG there should be a law" kneejerk reaction. You assume that it isn't legal, because you want it regulated because you can't see life without the fine comforts of every commercial activity being regulated by federal law.
You'll need additional permits in each state to do that, and I bet they don't have them.
Actually, mobile stations may not be required any permits, because the permits from the DOT have already been granted (because you haven't read the supporting documents from the website I linked) But because you're actually lazy, and assumed things (without evidence) here is the direct link to the DOT permit.. http://www.transferflow.com/Co...
I am not even sure you know why you're kneejerking a response, but you should really figure out why you think EVERY DAMN THING needs to be regulated, permitted, taxed, especially if it is already permitted, regulated, and taxed. Do you really think additional layers bureaucracies actually solve ANYTHING?
I know PLENTY of people, both Liberal and Conservative that don't like these trade agreements. Part of the charm of both Bernie and Trump is that they are not from the Political Cabal that is set up in DC that keeps pushing this shit though.
And I doubt you are against capitalism, I think you're really against Corpratism. And Being Libertarian, I am against the creation of the state (corporations) controlling its creator via political bribes, threats and influence. IMHO the rise of PACs, Union Contribution, and other "Group Politics" has contributed to a disconnected political class that doesn't have to respond to the will of the people.
I personally think that many on both the Right and Left in America actually agree on what the problems are, it is the solutions that divide us. IMHO people who think Statism is the answer to Statism are simply delusional. The only solution is to start dismanteling the consolidation of power at the places furthest from the actual people.
Global Elitists conspiring behind closed curtains. And Obama is one of them. GOP and DNC are both equally in bed on this one. There is NO functional difference on anything that really matters. The only thing that keeps people divided are bathrooms and sexuality. I guess that's enough of a circus to keep the people distracted while both parties are conspiring against us.
The actual model being used is "we require stationary gas retailers to be licensed, regulated, and inspected and are applying the same standard to mobile refueling."
One is legally regulated (already in place) the other is "oh shit, that is something current laws don't account for" retroactive regulation for something that isn't stationary.
From your quoted article
“Our current fire code does not allow this process; however, we are exploring a way this could be allowed with some restrictions,”
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Good luck preventing that which already exists, simply because it disrupts existing markets.
3) Tyranny is also social contract. "Taken care of" in your world is the old Liberty for security trade. I don't want to be taken care of, I want to be free. Sorry, but any social contract that takes liberty under the guise of security is selling something I don't want any of.
I am only going to address one statement, because it actually shows your level of... ignorance.
It's amazing what you project onto Sanders' supporters. You can't possibly imagine that somebody who has more skill and talent than you probably do would want a UBI or free college or whatnot.
Here's what I know. Things of value are Rarely free. Most things of value are that way, not because they are easy, but rather because they are not.
Free college provides paper certifications that cheapen the value of hard earned education. Free college gets you programs like "Gender equity studies", useless degrees that nobody in their right mind can get any sort of job. These are the people with Master Degrees and work at Starbucks wondering why they can't get a job.
And you're idea that "Free college" is the answer to all the ills of our world is simply wrong on another level. It isn't. We have MILLIONS of people graduating with useless degrees already, and you solution is to have more of them, expecting different results.
And lets be honest, "free" doesn't mean "free". Someone pays for that college, through higher taxes, higher tuition (supply/demand) and worse, lower quality education. I happen to work in Education, and I see the problems caused by "free education for all" and "Eduction is a right" logic. It causes the best and brightest of our kids to be ignored and forgotten, while catering (giving the most resources) to the least educate-able of us.
It is this "fairness" that the left is trying to equal out of the unfairness of life (some people are smarter than others, some work harder than others, some are luckier than others) that ultimately results in an equally unfair (perhaps more so) response, in taking from those that are smarter, work harder and are lucky to give to those that don't actually deserve anything.
Somebody is always stealing from somebody. Maybe I'm stealing from my employer and I'm not worth what I negotiated for, or maybe my employer is stealing from me and I'm worth more to them than I negotiated for.
If both sides negotiated and agreed upon, nobody is stealing from anyone. But then again, that is the basis for your entire viewpoint, that someone is screwing someone in every deal. I feel really sorry that you have the view in life that competition for scarce resources is a bad thing, because someone gets "stolen from".
I don't care for Trump, but he gets PLENTY of trashing by everyone else. My point was how stupid and robotic the Trump protesters are, who can't even articulate what they are actually protesting, the just "know Trump is a racist" (no facts need to be given)
But you'll no doubt be voting for "It was an internet video (nobody ever saw) that cause those four americans to die on my watch" Hillary.
Or My Email server was completely legit
Or I had to return (and pay restitution) for all the crap I stole out of the WH the last time I was there.
Or never mind about pay for play with the Clinton Foundation, and my ethics violations while SoS
you know, actual crimes, not thought crimes as you've mostly described.
People are getting their panties in a wad, because "there ought to be a law". The problem is, this has become a kneejerk reaction by so many people, they can't stop long enough to figure out why they can't regulate an existing market out of existence without a huge outcry from the people who need such things in the first place.
"Its dangerous, we must regulate" is the battle cry for tyrants everywhere, from the petty small town ones to the big industrial tyrants.
But Somalia!!!! (just to get that one out of the way now)
Nobody considers gas stations with idiot people filling up their tanks to be dangerous (except Oregon), with all sort of gas fires caused by everything from static electricity to cell phones (disputed).
Well, the other option is to go down the "Its not legal until we say it is" model that is currently employed. The government wants it taxes, fees and whatnot simply to NOT monitor the things it is claiming it is regulating in the process of taxing, feeing and whatnot.
These types of businesses are exposing the real crime of Government Tyranny by regulation. Of course, "something bad might happen, therefore we must regulate it into oblivion" arguments come out. That and I fully expect Somalia to show up in this thread soon.
The way I explain it is this: Imagine how dumb the average person is, and realize that 1/2 the people aren't actually that smart.
Its like all those Anti-Trump Supporters protesting him, when interviewed can't actually articulate the lines they are parroting.
TV Reporter: Why are you here? Protester: We're protesting Trump! Bernie 2016 yeah! TV Reporter: Why are you protesting Trump? Protester: He is a racist, bigot, homophobic, woman hater, that's why! TV Reporter: Can you give me an example of one of those? Protester:/crickets.... there are thousands of examples! TV Reporter: Sure, but can you name just one? Protester:/morecrickets... You're just a hater that hates!... walks off.
I've seen plenty of interviews of protesters lately and they all go very similar to this. They have NO idea what they are protesting, just that their leaders are telling them to, so the just show up and protest, without a clue. It is really sad.
little of that benefit went to people below the top 10%.
Yeah, tell them. We got no benefits for any of it. So many products are better, stronger, faster, cheaper, safer, but we didn't benefit at all!/sarcasm
The problem is that you have FAILED to see the benefits everyone is reaping, because they benefit everyone equally. My guess, is that you have NO real skill or talent and expect to rewarded for participating, having put in no effort to break out of mediocrity. So, instead you drink the Kool-Aide of Bernie and whine about how all of this is unfair.
As I told my kids as they were growing up, "who told you life was fair?"
He is being held in "Contempt of Court". They still can't force him to divulge the information, but are trying coercive tactics.
That being said, If I were him, I would never divulge the passcode, even if there is no porn on the drives. Right now, all they have is a single person's testimony that "I saw kiddie porn", and every other search as come up empty.
To me, it sounds like he as a great case of false imprisonment, and a civil trial against the judge. But IANAL, however, a single judge should NOT have the authority to hold someone in contempt indefinitely, and without review. And seven months is too long to not have a review by independent panel of jurists (or even a jury)
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Because people seem incapable of regulating themselves... so they do things like set up shop in front of someone's house.
And government does a much better job of that, arresting little girls for selling lemonade and cookies. I'll take the occasional non-regulating adult if we can get rid of government over regulating every last aspect of our lives. Security vs Liberty and all that.
Yup, someone selling Fruits and Vegetables OMG MUST BE STOLEN is always my first response.
And vegetable thieves are really violent in your parts of the world, I would suggest you need to move.
Why do we need authorization (authoritarian government) for venders to sell their goods?
Have we really got to the point where our first inclination is that Government Needs to be involved in EVERY aspect of our lives?
Possible = Opportunity.
Which is all I require. Contrary to liberals and their "participation trophy" values.
"unlicensed and unauthorized" is the real problem IMHO. WHY must everything require a license by the state? Why does it bother you that selling food to earn a living, and is such a problem that it needs government intervention?
This is why we suck as a people, that the unnatural reaction to everything is "Need a permit, pay fees, regulatory licenses and taxes" to earn a fucking living? WHY?
Which is probably why the "if" in your first sentence is returning false. And quite frankly, if it bothered you, you should politely ask them to go somewhere else, before calling the cops. Avoid being a dick, by being kind and human whenever possible.
I would say something like "Hey, I really wish you'd move to some other location, but those strawberries look yummy. If you move, I'll get a flat."
We are living in an increasingly crass society. Be the change you want to see in the world. If you like assholes, be an asshole. I prefer not to be an asshole.
Who is a scofflaw? The street vendor? They have done nothing wrong but trying to EARN a living. I am a Libertarian, and this kind of response by you (assuming you really are anti-street vendor) is shameful. The real villains in this are all the people who think people earning a living is somehow evil. The worse ones are the ones that think they need regulating at all, simply because some elitist doesn't like them.
Damn Statists
they were truly unauthorized
And there you have it, the same solution the asshole of the story wants. "I don't like what they are doing, lets require permits to earn a living"
This kind of nanny state solution is exactly why the Elites of the world (like this asshole) think they can control others.
Here's my thought. Is the road, sidewalk or otherwise public? Then ignore the whiny asshole. Fuck adding layers of additional government control on people, we have enough already. ENOUGH already. WHY must the solution to every whiny asshole be "More Regulation"???
legal to distribute commercially.
And there is the point I was making. the "OMG there should be a law" kneejerk reaction. You assume that it isn't legal, because you want it regulated because you can't see life without the fine comforts of every commercial activity being regulated by federal law.
You'll need additional permits in each state to do that, and I bet they don't have them.
Actually, mobile stations may not be required any permits, because the permits from the DOT have already been granted (because you haven't read the supporting documents from the website I linked) But because you're actually lazy, and assumed things (without evidence) here is the direct link to the DOT permit .. http://www.transferflow.com/Co...
I am not even sure you know why you're kneejerking a response, but you should really figure out why you think EVERY DAMN THING needs to be regulated, permitted, taxed, especially if it is already permitted, regulated, and taxed. Do you really think additional layers bureaucracies actually solve ANYTHING?
I know PLENTY of people, both Liberal and Conservative that don't like these trade agreements. Part of the charm of both Bernie and Trump is that they are not from the Political Cabal that is set up in DC that keeps pushing this shit though.
And I doubt you are against capitalism, I think you're really against Corpratism. And Being Libertarian, I am against the creation of the state (corporations) controlling its creator via political bribes, threats and influence. IMHO the rise of PACs, Union Contribution, and other "Group Politics" has contributed to a disconnected political class that doesn't have to respond to the will of the people.
I personally think that many on both the Right and Left in America actually agree on what the problems are, it is the solutions that divide us. IMHO people who think Statism is the answer to Statism are simply delusional. The only solution is to start dismanteling the consolidation of power at the places furthest from the actual people.
The sky is falling,
Boy who cried wolf.
We have lots of cautionary tales from our youth that nobody seems to listen to. Because OH MY GAWD WE ALL GONNA DIE! makes great headlines.
Global Elitists conspiring behind closed curtains. And Obama is one of them. GOP and DNC are both equally in bed on this one. There is NO functional difference on anything that really matters. The only thing that keeps people divided are bathrooms and sexuality. I guess that's enough of a circus to keep the people distracted while both parties are conspiring against us.
The actual model being used is "we require stationary gas retailers to be licensed, regulated, and inspected and are applying the same standard to mobile refueling."
One is legally regulated (already in place) the other is "oh shit, that is something current laws don't account for" retroactive regulation for something that isn't stationary.
From your quoted article
“Our current fire code does not allow this process; however, we are exploring a way this could be allowed with some restrictions,”
Which is utter bullshit. Take a look here (hint, already legal) http://www.transferflow.com/fu...
With a Transfer Flow refueling tank, you don’t have to guess! Our refueling tanks are Department of Transportation (DOT) legal to carry and transfer gas, diesel, ethanol, methanol, kerosene and jet fuel in all 50 U.S. states. Having a DOT legal refueling tank from Transfer Flow means you won’t get red tagged and fined by your Highway Patrol for carrying an illegal fuel tank in the bed of your truck. Click here to see our Special Permit from the Department of Transportation.
Good luck preventing that which already exists, simply because it disrupts existing markets.
3) Tyranny is also social contract. "Taken care of" in your world is the old Liberty for security trade. I don't want to be taken care of, I want to be free. Sorry, but any social contract that takes liberty under the guise of security is selling something I don't want any of.
I am only going to address one statement, because it actually shows your level of ... ignorance.
It's amazing what you project onto Sanders' supporters. You can't possibly imagine that somebody who has more skill and talent than you probably do would want a UBI or free college or whatnot.
Here's what I know. Things of value are Rarely free. Most things of value are that way, not because they are easy, but rather because they are not.
Free college provides paper certifications that cheapen the value of hard earned education. Free college gets you programs like "Gender equity studies", useless degrees that nobody in their right mind can get any sort of job. These are the people with Master Degrees and work at Starbucks wondering why they can't get a job.
And you're idea that "Free college" is the answer to all the ills of our world is simply wrong on another level. It isn't. We have MILLIONS of people graduating with useless degrees already, and you solution is to have more of them, expecting different results.
And lets be honest, "free" doesn't mean "free". Someone pays for that college, through higher taxes, higher tuition (supply/demand) and worse, lower quality education. I happen to work in Education, and I see the problems caused by "free education for all" and "Eduction is a right" logic. It causes the best and brightest of our kids to be ignored and forgotten, while catering (giving the most resources) to the least educate-able of us.
It is this "fairness" that the left is trying to equal out of the unfairness of life (some people are smarter than others, some work harder than others, some are luckier than others) that ultimately results in an equally unfair (perhaps more so) response, in taking from those that are smarter, work harder and are lucky to give to those that don't actually deserve anything.
Somebody is always stealing from somebody. Maybe I'm stealing from my employer and I'm not worth what I negotiated for, or maybe my employer is stealing from me and I'm worth more to them than I negotiated for.
If both sides negotiated and agreed upon, nobody is stealing from anyone. But then again, that is the basis for your entire viewpoint, that someone is screwing someone in every deal. I feel really sorry that you have the view in life that competition for scarce resources is a bad thing, because someone gets "stolen from".
Because I am anti stupid people protesting another stupid person? That is the kind of simplistic thinking that has got us Trump and Hilary. ;)
I don't care for Trump, but he gets PLENTY of trashing by everyone else. My point was how stupid and robotic the Trump protesters are, who can't even articulate what they are actually protesting, the just "know Trump is a racist" (no facts need to be given)
But you'll no doubt be voting for "It was an internet video (nobody ever saw) that cause those four americans to die on my watch" Hillary.
Or My Email server was completely legit
Or I had to return (and pay restitution) for all the crap I stole out of the WH the last time I was there.
Or never mind about pay for play with the Clinton Foundation, and my ethics violations while SoS
you know, actual crimes, not thought crimes as you've mostly described.
Exactly this.
People are getting their panties in a wad, because "there ought to be a law". The problem is, this has become a kneejerk reaction by so many people, they can't stop long enough to figure out why they can't regulate an existing market out of existence without a huge outcry from the people who need such things in the first place.
"Its dangerous, we must regulate" is the battle cry for tyrants everywhere, from the petty small town ones to the big industrial tyrants.
But Somalia!!!! (just to get that one out of the way now)
Nobody considers gas stations with idiot people filling up their tanks to be dangerous (except Oregon), with all sort of gas fires caused by everything from static electricity to cell phones (disputed).
Do they still reclaim fumes? I thought it was just a seal on the gas hole now.
Well, the other option is to go down the "Its not legal until we say it is" model that is currently employed. The government wants it taxes, fees and whatnot simply to NOT monitor the things it is claiming it is regulating in the process of taxing, feeing and whatnot.
These types of businesses are exposing the real crime of Government Tyranny by regulation. Of course, "something bad might happen, therefore we must regulate it into oblivion" arguments come out. That and I fully expect Somalia to show up in this thread soon.
The way I explain it is this: Imagine how dumb the average person is, and realize that 1/2 the people aren't actually that smart.
Its like all those Anti-Trump Supporters protesting him, when interviewed can't actually articulate the lines they are parroting.
TV Reporter: Why are you here? /crickets .... there are thousands of examples! /morecrickets ... You're just a hater that hates! ... walks off.
Protester: We're protesting Trump! Bernie 2016 yeah!
TV Reporter: Why are you protesting Trump?
Protester: He is a racist, bigot, homophobic, woman hater, that's why!
TV Reporter: Can you give me an example of one of those?
Protester:
TV Reporter: Sure, but can you name just one?
Protester:
I've seen plenty of interviews of protesters lately and they all go very similar to this. They have NO idea what they are protesting, just that their leaders are telling them to, so the just show up and protest, without a clue. It is really sad.
little of that benefit went to people below the top 10%.
Yeah, tell them. We got no benefits for any of it. So many products are better, stronger, faster, cheaper, safer, but we didn't benefit at all! /sarcasm
The problem is that you have FAILED to see the benefits everyone is reaping, because they benefit everyone equally. My guess, is that you have NO real skill or talent and expect to rewarded for participating, having put in no effort to break out of mediocrity. So, instead you drink the Kool-Aide of Bernie and whine about how all of this is unfair.
As I told my kids as they were growing up, "who told you life was fair?"
He is being held in "Contempt of Court". They still can't force him to divulge the information, but are trying coercive tactics.
That being said, If I were him, I would never divulge the passcode, even if there is no porn on the drives. Right now, all they have is a single person's testimony that "I saw kiddie porn", and every other search as come up empty.
To me, it sounds like he as a great case of false imprisonment, and a civil trial against the judge. But IANAL, however, a single judge should NOT have the authority to hold someone in contempt indefinitely, and without review. And seven months is too long to not have a review by independent panel of jurists (or even a jury)
Your link is bad.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...