One could imagine a situation where kidnapped people would get their hands on a phone with no SIM card in it (or an inactive one) and dial 911. Take that away and it might kill people.
I can imagine it, doesn't mean it will happen... ever. But instead of making fun of people, explain it in simple terms.
Kidnappings are very rare. Everything after that is even more rare. All the "might" after that simply means that it is less likely to happen. At some point, there is practically no chance of it ever happening.
Might get kidnapped Might get a cell phone Might not be enable Might be charged enough to work Might get rescued
Any break in that is an escape clause for the need. I'm not kidnapped, I don't need. No cell phone access, I don't need. Already is active, don't have a need. Dead battery, don't have a need. Kidnappers find out I called 911 on their disabled phone that happened to be charged, kills me before I can be rescued.
Yes, it is ridiculous example, but it needs to be made for the people who don't want to think things through. Yes, stupid people exist, make stupid suggestions that sound all great and wonderful.. until... logic is applied. These are Emotional arguments.
Sweeping generalizations to counter sweeping generalizations is effective, when exposing the original hypocrisy. I did it to make a point, one that eluded you.
There is pretty good indication that Matthew was written by an actual witness to the events. These manuscripts copies are within a hundred years of Jesus' life, and are copies of earlier ones. Most scholars view the original manuscript to be closer to 50-60CE, placing it within the lifetime of a contemporary of Jesus, claiming to have known him (20-30 years)
You can't believe the words written in the Bible, even if they are phrased as quotes. They weren't quotes. They were written down by someone who never met Jesus, and never met anyone who had seen him within the last 30 years.
Most (many at least) Christians don't have a clue what the bible actually says. They only know what (parts of) the New Testament says. Most only recite what their pastors preach from the pulpit, or single verses (taken out of context)
Most couldn't explain why Jesus didn't condemn the whore to stoning, because they don't know. But he was 100% biblical (Torah Compliant) in his approach and there are many lessons that could be learned from that.
Yes, there are some pretty strong prescriptions in the Bible, but most of them are actually hard to fulfill, as most of the accusers would be indicted for their own sins in the process of pointing fingers at others, something most people don't like to face in themselves. It would be like saying "Mr Drug Dealer stole from me (when I was trying to buy drugs from him)".
So, if I can find three Atheists who say that all Christians can be killed, then I can apply that logic to all Atheists everywhere?
And you need reading comprehension lessons. the FRC didn't support any such thing. A person associated with the FRC supported it. Those are remarkably two different statements.
The problem you have, is you take a small sample, and equate it to the whole, without consideration of the whole in the first place, simply because you know the whole doesn't actually believe what you're trying to say about it.
You have comments from two people, and three others supporting it, and you've blown that to mean "all Christians", and you don't find that disingenuous at all?
I'll suggest an AI test that should be sufficient to solve the question of AI.
1) AI is self aware 2) AI is capable of learning something* it has never seen before. e.g learning to play a newly invented game 3) AI is capable of doing many complex and unrelated tasks at once. e.g. Playing Chess while having a conversation and learning something new... 4) AI is capable of creating its own interpretations of things like art, literature, philosophy and even religion. e.g. Starry Night critique.
The main thing preventing Christians in the U.S. from regularly saying, and acting upon, "We will kill gays", is the protection offered by a secular government.
Yeah, right.
American Family Association's encouraging Christian-majority Uganda to pass laws making homosexuality a capital offense
The actual prescription is to kill both man and woman.
[Lev 20:10 KJV] 10 And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Adding in, that it takes a couple witnesses to execute anyone, it was highly rare that the biblical standards were met.
The main religion in Bangladesh is Islam (89.7%), but a significant percentage of the population adheres to Hinduism (9.2%). Other religious groups include Buddhists (0.7%, mostly Theravada), Christians...
Also and perhaps more Important are the poor kids who do better in school, because their parents are willing to sacrifice in order to provide extra help and encouragement to the students.
From my experience it the parents (more so than $$) that make the biggest difference.
And on the third side, you have Liberals beholden to Teacher Unions wanting to keep the status quo at failing schools.
See, it is really easy to paint in broad strokes to make the other guys look bad. The real issues with CC are
1) Common Core doesn't serve the kids, it serves those in power 2) Much of the problem with "Common Core" is from mandates, be it from city, county, state or federal levels, not directly Common Core itself. (Conflating) 3) Other aspects of Common Core are the methods prescribed by mandates (see #2) that try to avoid long standing approaches to instruction. (also Conflating)
If we stopped for just a second, and took a big step back, and simply asked "How does this help Johnny or Sue". The best person to know about Johnny or Sue is their parent(s), not some bureaucrat who has never met Johnny or Sue. The problem we have is that is the one person who should have a choice, but doesn't. We can spend all the money in the world, and not change the result. But until we start empowering those closest to the problem to change the conditions, nothing is going to change. Common Core doesn't actually address how to get Johnny or Sue educated. It only addresses how schools are failing (or not), but never addresses WHY those schools are failing. And we really can't ask that question can we?
The Beauty of my solution is that it would simply take one municipality to pull this off, and make it work. Even if the big Cable/Telco companies didn't want to play, smaller more nimble companies would swoop in and provide new and interesting offerings. Unlike my current provider of content, which insists that a few dozen Shopping channels might be enough.
But hey, lets keep voting for bigger and more government, and consolidate as much power at the top as possible because our guy is there! (Which works for both D and R )
If you live in America, you are free to leave. Something people in USSR couldn't do. Atheism is so scared of relgion, that it had to kill Millions (and still does in China) who have a faith that is dangerous to the collective.
I find it amusing that people define what they believe by defining it by what they don't believe. I don't believe in Pink Unicorns, but my beliefs aren't defined by that. I am not APINKUNICORNIAN.
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One could imagine a situation where kidnapped people would get their hands on a phone with no SIM card in it (or an inactive one) and dial 911. Take that away and it might kill people.
I can imagine it, doesn't mean it will happen ... ever. But instead of making fun of people, explain it in simple terms.
Kidnappings are very rare. Everything after that is even more rare. All the "might" after that simply means that it is less likely to happen. At some point, there is practically no chance of it ever happening.
Might get kidnapped
Might get a cell phone
Might not be enable
Might be charged enough to work
Might get rescued
Any break in that is an escape clause for the need. I'm not kidnapped, I don't need. No cell phone access, I don't need. Already is active, don't have a need. Dead battery, don't have a need. Kidnappers find out I called 911 on their disabled phone that happened to be charged, kills me before I can be rescued.
Yes, it is ridiculous example, but it needs to be made for the people who don't want to think things through. Yes, stupid people exist, make stupid suggestions that sound all great and wonderful .. until ... logic is applied. These are Emotional arguments.
It isn't hard to write good documentation. It just takes time.
You keep chasing that boogieman, and ignore the real threats.
Sweeping generalizations to counter sweeping generalizations is effective, when exposing the original hypocrisy. I did it to make a point, one that eluded you.
There is pretty good indication that Matthew was written by an actual witness to the events. These manuscripts copies are within a hundred years of Jesus' life, and are copies of earlier ones. Most scholars view the original manuscript to be closer to 50-60CE, placing it within the lifetime of a contemporary of Jesus, claiming to have known him (20-30 years)
You can't believe the words written in the Bible, even if they are phrased as quotes. They weren't quotes. They were written down by someone who never met Jesus, and never met anyone who had seen him within the last 30 years.
That is your opinion. ;)
Most (many at least) Christians don't have a clue what the bible actually says. They only know what (parts of) the New Testament says. Most only recite what their pastors preach from the pulpit, or single verses (taken out of context)
Most couldn't explain why Jesus didn't condemn the whore to stoning, because they don't know. But he was 100% biblical (Torah Compliant) in his approach and there are many lessons that could be learned from that.
Yes, there are some pretty strong prescriptions in the Bible, but most of them are actually hard to fulfill, as most of the accusers would be indicted for their own sins in the process of pointing fingers at others, something most people don't like to face in themselves. It would be like saying "Mr Drug Dealer stole from me (when I was trying to buy drugs from him)".
three American Christians
So, if I can find three Atheists who say that all Christians can be killed, then I can apply that logic to all Atheists everywhere?
And you need reading comprehension lessons. the FRC didn't support any such thing. A person associated with the FRC supported it. Those are remarkably two different statements.
The problem you have, is you take a small sample, and equate it to the whole, without consideration of the whole in the first place, simply because you know the whole doesn't actually believe what you're trying to say about it.
You have comments from two people, and three others supporting it, and you've blown that to mean "all Christians", and you don't find that disingenuous at all?
Liberal Boogiemen are scary /sarcasm
I'll suggest an AI test that should be sufficient to solve the question of AI.
1) AI is self aware ...
2) AI is capable of learning something* it has never seen before. e.g learning to play a newly invented game
3) AI is capable of doing many complex and unrelated tasks at once. e.g. Playing Chess while having a conversation and learning something new
4) AI is capable of creating its own interpretations of things like art, literature, philosophy and even religion. e.g. Starry Night critique.
The main thing preventing Christians in the U.S. from regularly saying, and acting upon, "We will kill gays", is the protection offered by a secular government.
Yeah, right.
American Family Association's encouraging Christian-majority Uganda to pass laws making homosexuality a capital offense
Citation needed.
And Eric Garner. Taxes are regressive.
Christianity on gays "we don't want gays to be married"
Islam on gays "We will kill gays"
Christianity on Minorities "people are people"
Islam on Minorities "Convert to Islam, pay a tax or die"
Christianity on Selfish living "Love one another"
Islam on Selfish Behavior "Kill the Infadel" "Hate the Jew" "Kill the people of the Cross"
Christianity on Judging "Love the sinner, hate the sin" "Judge not lest ye be judged"
Islam on Judging "Kill the infadel"
Yeah, they are completely the same.
The actual prescription is to kill both man and woman.
[Lev 20:10 KJV] 10 And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Adding in, that it takes a couple witnesses to execute anyone, it was highly rare that the biblical standards were met.
The main religion in Bangladesh is Islam (89.7%), but a significant percentage of the population adheres to Hinduism (9.2%). Other religious groups include Buddhists (0.7%, mostly Theravada), Christians ...
You were saying?
Citation needed.
Also and perhaps more Important are the poor kids who do better in school, because their parents are willing to sacrifice in order to provide extra help and encouragement to the students.
From my experience it the parents (more so than $$) that make the biggest difference.
Right up there with people crying "there ought to be a law"
Nobody ever stops and asks if the premise is even correct.
Strawman arguments aren't rational either, but here you are making them.
And on the third side, you have Liberals beholden to Teacher Unions wanting to keep the status quo at failing schools.
See, it is really easy to paint in broad strokes to make the other guys look bad. The real issues with CC are
1) Common Core doesn't serve the kids, it serves those in power
2) Much of the problem with "Common Core" is from mandates, be it from city, county, state or federal levels, not directly Common Core itself. (Conflating)
3) Other aspects of Common Core are the methods prescribed by mandates (see #2) that try to avoid long standing approaches to instruction. (also Conflating)
If we stopped for just a second, and took a big step back, and simply asked "How does this help Johnny or Sue". The best person to know about Johnny or Sue is their parent(s), not some bureaucrat who has never met Johnny or Sue. The problem we have is that is the one person who should have a choice, but doesn't. We can spend all the money in the world, and not change the result. But until we start empowering those closest to the problem to change the conditions, nothing is going to change. Common Core doesn't actually address how to get Johnny or Sue educated. It only addresses how schools are failing (or not), but never addresses WHY those schools are failing. And we really can't ask that question can we?
The Beauty of my solution is that it would simply take one municipality to pull this off, and make it work. Even if the big Cable/Telco companies didn't want to play, smaller more nimble companies would swoop in and provide new and interesting offerings. Unlike my current provider of content, which insists that a few dozen Shopping channels might be enough.
But hey, lets keep voting for bigger and more government, and consolidate as much power at the top as possible because our guy is there! (Which works for both D and R )
If you live in America, you are free to leave. Something people in USSR couldn't do. Atheism is so scared of relgion, that it had to kill Millions (and still does in China) who have a faith that is dangerous to the collective.
Pointing to bad behavior is not an excuse for nor should be a distraction from other bad behavior.
I find it amusing that people define what they believe by defining it by what they don't believe. I don't believe in Pink Unicorns, but my beliefs aren't defined by that. I am not APINKUNICORNIAN.
Holey Floating Metal Batman!
Because nothing bad ever happened in Atheistic Socialist Countries .... noooo