It isn't just Corporate Money trying to kill healthcare reform. It is Trial Lawyers keeping Tort Reform off the table. It is Senior Groups not wanting anyone to touch Medicare (fourth rail of politics). You have illegal alien support groups not wanting ID checks on nationalized heath insurance.
Then you have the whole Tax on Trade (aka Cap and Trade) and Green energy. Just take a look at my summary below.
1)GE wants Green Energy 2)GE owns NBC 4)NBC loves BHO 5)BHO loves Green Energy programs 6)??? 7)Profit!
And this is just in, GM and Chrysler cannot (as in EVER) payback what was given to them under TARP. And now, Government is trying to take over Healthcare, and we think this is a good thing why???
Pardon me for thinking government screws up as much as private sector. Except we keep thinking government is the solution to all the worlds ills, when it is the cause of many of them.
Looking at some of these issues, and patent reform seems almost SILLY. Yeah, patent system sucks right now, and costs the world all sorts of inefficiencies.
Let us look at where things are inefficient, and try to streamline those areas and not make wholesale changes to the system that doesn't really address the inefficiencies.
What if you buy and read a lot of books, but could do so for a fraction of the price. I see paperback type books becoming like $0.99, any my wife reads these style books like they are going out of style.
Even Textbooks could be sold "new" for much less than they currently are. The fact is, economy doesn't require resale of virtual property. Nobody is demanding resale rights to iTunes music.
Yeah, because we can't drill here in our yard (CA, AK) , we have to go to places that have petty dictators to get oil. NIMBYs are the problem, not the solution.
If you don't like the two wars, then let us drill here, drill now, And Create American Jobs. Otherwise you're part of the same problem I mentioned above.
If I were President, I'd tax the crap out of imported oil, and open up Anwar and California. I'd also start damming the rivers and building Nuke Plants to go along with Bio Fuels, Solar.
I'm just as sick about the two wars as the next guy, and don't like funding Jihadist governments. So, lets take a BIG BRIGHT LOOK at the SOLUTION we have available and go with it. You might not like everything about it, but sitting complaining about EVERY SOLUTION presented is NOT an option any longer.
Biological process has little or nothing to do with this. There were (are) people in remote corners who can't use a computer, have never used electricity, and barely use things like clubs and bows.
Are they less evolved? After all, they haven't invented any complex machines.
Evolution says that changes to biology is slow steady progress, which explains my question (time frame).
5-10,000 years ago, there was little to no "complex" machines, and people primarily were hunter gatherers. To suggest that Evolution now, suddenly, allows humans to not eat meat suggests that this process has been happening for quite some time. My question was exactly that, what premise do you have to suggest this is evolutionary trait of any sort?
The answer is you don't have any evidence other than suddenly being able to figure out (intellectually) that we CAN do without most meat products, but this is hardly evolutionary, except if you account for brains.
Just because we can go to the moon, doesn't mean we've evolved to do it. It means we've figured out ways to get around biological issues involved using technology.
I suggest you watch the movie Wall-E to see a parable on this very phenomenon. You've just realized that food doesn't come from a machine.
Vegetarians also tend to believe that humans have evolved to the point that we no longer need to subside on a diet consisting primarily of meat
Based on what premise? I mean, what has happened in the last say... 4000-10000 years to show that we have been genetically altered enough to show this is "evolution" (biological).
BTW, your club argument is not "Evolution" (biological), has the same problem. What evidence (biological) do you have to suggest beating people with clubs was an evolutionary trait?
Last time I check, we don't use clubs, but we use other things like guns, knives, tanks, bombs and aircraft. Is that evolution too?
"Unschooling" is just another way for lazy, stupid parents to coddle their children toward a lifetime of failure, mediocrity and narcissism.
Funny, that is exactly what I think of PUBLIC EDUCATION, where Lazy, Stupid People send their kids so that they have a free baby sitting service.
In 20 years, when these kids turn out to be useless tools who are unable to work for what they want or even support themselves, they will turn around and blame the government and you and me, for not doing enough to help them.
Yup, that is exactly what is happening in public education, where all the "special needs" kids get all the resources and "normal" and "bright" kids get jack shit. Because we can't leave anyone behind, so everyone gets slowed down so all the kids are stupid^H^H^H^H "special".
I'm making a fairly big assumption here, that you are a social progressive / liberal type.
You just a bigot. You probably think of yourself as this highly enlightened progressive. Yeah, my kids (home schooled) probably wouldn't want to hang out with you either.
However, my kids are very well socially adjusted and can handle most situations quite fine, even if that simply means walking away from elitist dolts.
How would you like to hang out in a church for five days a week around people you don't agree with? I'm sure that they would come to the exact same conclusion you did, that you can't adjust socially and deal with the daily grind of people.
My kids are exposed to all sorts of things outside viewpoints. They all have traveled overseas for extended periods, often traveling alone. They've seen other cultures and customs, and they adjusted just fine, without having to compromise their values in the process.
And I would suggest to you that it doesn't matter what "school" a child goes to, if the parents aren't involved in "education" their kids will be "burger flippers".
Education is more than school. And school often has little to do with education. It is often just a free babysitting service so mom and dad can work and ignore the kids.
BTW, I work in public education, and I homeschool my kids. I don't want them learning what I've seen in occur in classrooms that has NOTHING to do with "education".
Yeah, I think its somewhat ghoulish to find nourishment in the chard flesh and dead animals, but when you really think about it,
No it isn't. What is really funny is all the vegetarians tend to be Evolutionists who haven't figured out that Humans are Omnivores designed to eat just about anything. oops, I said Designed, gasp.
I'm from PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals), and we'll take off all of our clothes in protest. And unlike that OTHER group, we're not a bunch of hot vegetarians, so you will not enjoy the spectacle .
I would agree with this point. Transformers (1 & 2) weren't all that great, but I would pay $10 just to see Megan Fox. Any movie with her ( and a select few other actors ) is worth $10 to watch, regardless of plot or effects.
Sorry, lefties. Your crazed desire to give the government as much power as humanly possible to regulate everybody's thought and living patterns to match your own is failing.
Um, you do realize that lots of people bashing your exalted Dear Leader Bush were harrassed by the FBI, not to mention all the legally protesting people at the RNC convention who were arrested and thrown in prison on false charges (though later released)? And then, of course, there is anti-flag burning legislation always brought up by Repugs. In red states, you can't lead anyone in a school prayer unless it is to the Protestant Fundamentalist version of God. I could go on, but really. Don't talk about the mote in your neighbor's eye when you have a whole beam in yours. Anti-hate speach legislation, while ill-founded, at least had at its heart the idea to stop the traditional practice of inflaming the mob's anger so as to go out and lynch minorities. Hardly in the same league as sending the Feds after people who simply disagree with Bush.
You only guess it was Bush. We Actually know it was Clinton, who was caught with the actual FBI files.
But that means that Clinton was incompetent and Bush was smart enough to not get caught.
Anti-hate speach legislation, while ill-founded, at least had at its heart the idea to stop the traditional practice of inflaming the mob's anger so as to go out and lynch minorities.
You mean by calling the "mob" (1st Amendment type) a bunch of Teabagging Brownshirts, Swastika carrying Tim McVey types. Is that not Hate speech?
Oh wait, you mean (D) after their name makes it okay?
And whose morals are you subscribing to? I can almost assure you that they are not mine. So what makes your morals (in business) better than mine?
Reaganomics came out of the failed socialist policies of Carter, and Johnson. Remember them?
And those came out of the abundance of the Post WWII boom. Which came from the detestation caused by WWII on Europe. And so on and so on.
And Bush will get blamed for much of the current economic situation, rightfully so I might add. But Obama isn't helping things much either.
Government gets in the way more than it solves problems. And for every problem it does solve, it adds several others; unintended consequences.
If you want to see morality in business, then invest long term in moral businesses, and hope they can compete with the immoral ones. And do business with moral companies, not immoral ones. But morality tends to cost more, are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?
I used to sell computers and printers and such. I had many a customer come into my shop, and want something I was selling. Of course, there were places that sold the same stuff for less, and often people would drive 90 miles to save $5 on a $500 printer, if I didn't lower my price.
The profit margin for me, on that product was perhaps $10 or so, and the other stores were selling them at loss, or bought them in bulk or whatever, it doesn't matter for the point of the story.
These same people would then bring in the printer because it wouldn't work with their computer and want me to fix it for free. I'd laugh, and tell them I'd fix it for $45 bench fee (if I could). But often they bought the "Mac" version for the PC or the PC version for the Mac.
Or they forgot the cable, and I'd sell them a $.50 cable for $14.99. Yes, I made more money on cables than the printers.
It was then I learned that people will spend stupid amounts of time and energy trying to get that last $5 out of a $500 printer, rather than appreciating the service and value of a locally owned store.
What is funny, it is these people who complain about Walmart, BestBuy and the like for not having good sales people, and then buy from online places anyways.
I also included an example of a company that looks towards the long term rather than the short term, which you casually dismissed. You can tell a lot about people by looking in their closets and garage. I wonder, what kind of lawn mower you have.
Do you support local stores and merchants or do you shop online, at Walmart and Costco?
I bet you are the same guy who price shops while complaining about the lack of quality, service and so on. You don't know a thing about economics.
We have plenty of regulations now, I don't see any improvement for the over-regulation we've have. Corporations make promises today they have no intention or ability to keep. Hey, that sounds like all the Politicians we have today, including all those promising "universal health care", You know the ones that can't explain how they are going to add 40 million people to the free health care rolls, without adding a single doctor.
Get back to me when you can show how all the regulations which we have in place to prevent all those bubbles kept us from having those bubbles.
Don't Blame Reaganomics for this. Blame short sighted greed, where next reporting cycle is all that matters and long term performance is ignored.
If you look at the.COM bubble, the Housing Bubble, the Credit Bubble, and all the other bubbles, the whole thing was based on the next reporting cycle, and not core values and needs.
And most of those occurred under Bush and Clinton. And does anyone remember the fantastic job Carter did with the economy/sarcasm.
Sorry, but real economics is about improving products (and services), lowering cost of production (increasing productivity) and strong competition.
Our current system is broken, because Politics has dictated that it be broken. Every time some new regulation goes into place to stop some asshole from being an asshole, it affects everything else.
I blame both the (R) and the (D) for these problems, as both sides have passed ill advised and onerous regulations on production, which don't serve anything other than to drive up costs.
So now we have a country burdened by so many regulations it is cheaper, easier, and less hassles to hire a Chinese company that is unburdened by any regulations to make products for us. And quality doesn't matter because it is cheaper to replace something that is broken than it is to get it fixed.
If you want a good example of what I'm talking about, take a look at why Snapper Lawnmowers aren't sold at Walmart. And then don't buy crappy one season lawnmowers from Walmart, and get a real one from Snapper.
Snapper forsook short term gains for a long term outlook, and I applaud them.
There are plenty of other reasons why nobody wants to visit SF anymore, and most derive from the rampant homelessness problems, crumbling infrastructure and systematic discrimination against people with cars.
Yes. They actually support homelessness and vagrancy and wierd people and punish normal people. They (San Fransiscans) practically promote SF as an "adult playground", and wonder why people don't bring their kids to see things like Fisherman's Wharf and the many other former cultural attractions.
And as you said, actively discriminate against people with cars, which is how a family would get to SF. I'm sorry, I'd rather take my $ and go over to the Gold Country in the foothills than SF. It is better family entertainment and fun.
We used to go see "Fleet Week" in the bay, now... we don't. We used to go to Alcatraz and Angel Island... now we don't. We used to do all sorts of things in the Bay... now we don't. It just isn't worth it.
The Judge doesn't understand, he is not paid to understand.
What the Judge does understand is that letting this guy out of jail on BOND is dangerous to SF political types running the city. This is far more dangerous, in their mind, than a child rapist, mass murderer or other heinous criminal, hence the steep bail.
And the city wonders why nobody wants to visit there any more.
It isn't just Corporate Money trying to kill healthcare reform. It is Trial Lawyers keeping Tort Reform off the table. It is Senior Groups not wanting anyone to touch Medicare (fourth rail of politics). You have illegal alien support groups not wanting ID checks on nationalized heath insurance.
Then you have the whole Tax on Trade (aka Cap and Trade) and Green energy. Just take a look at my summary below.
1)GE wants Green Energy
2)GE owns NBC
4)NBC loves BHO
5)BHO loves Green Energy programs
6)???
7)Profit!
And this is just in, GM and Chrysler cannot (as in EVER) payback what was given to them under TARP. And now, Government is trying to take over Healthcare, and we think this is a good thing why???
Pardon me for thinking government screws up as much as private sector. Except we keep thinking government is the solution to all the worlds ills, when it is the cause of many of them.
Looking at some of these issues, and patent reform seems almost SILLY. Yeah, patent system sucks right now, and costs the world all sorts of inefficiencies.
Let us look at where things are inefficient, and try to streamline those areas and not make wholesale changes to the system that doesn't really address the inefficiencies.
They first came for Facebook, and we marveled and pined endlessly over stupid patents.
Next they came for MySpace, and we cheered endlessly.
Finally, they came for Slashdot, and there was nobody else to care.
Hey Lex, I hear Superman is looking for you.
What if you buy and read a lot of books, but could do so for a fraction of the price. I see paperback type books becoming like $0.99, any my wife reads these style books like they are going out of style.
Even Textbooks could be sold "new" for much less than they currently are. The fact is, economy doesn't require resale of virtual property. Nobody is demanding resale rights to iTunes music.
Yeah, because we can't drill here in our yard (CA, AK) , we have to go to places that have petty dictators to get oil. NIMBYs are the problem, not the solution.
If you don't like the two wars, then let us drill here, drill now, And Create American Jobs. Otherwise you're part of the same problem I mentioned above.
If I were President, I'd tax the crap out of imported oil, and open up Anwar and California. I'd also start damming the rivers and building Nuke Plants to go along with Bio Fuels, Solar.
I'm just as sick about the two wars as the next guy, and don't like funding Jihadist governments. So, lets take a BIG BRIGHT LOOK at the SOLUTION we have available and go with it. You might not like everything about it, but sitting complaining about EVERY SOLUTION presented is NOT an option any longer.
Yeah, simply amazing that building a really fast airplane with nothing more than slide rule and guile was possible in the 1950s (SR-71).
Labor organization is not Anarchism.
Most Anarchists aren't really Anarchists, they just oppose the current form of governance and want to replace it with something else.
Again,
Biological process has little or nothing to do with this. There were (are) people in remote corners who can't use a computer, have never used electricity, and barely use things like clubs and bows.
Are they less evolved? After all, they haven't invented any complex machines.
Evolution says that changes to biology is slow steady progress, which explains my question (time frame).
5-10,000 years ago, there was little to no "complex" machines, and people primarily were hunter gatherers. To suggest that Evolution now, suddenly, allows humans to not eat meat suggests that this process has been happening for quite some time. My question was exactly that, what premise do you have to suggest this is evolutionary trait of any sort?
The answer is you don't have any evidence other than suddenly being able to figure out (intellectually) that we CAN do without most meat products, but this is hardly evolutionary, except if you account for brains.
Just because we can go to the moon, doesn't mean we've evolved to do it. It means we've figured out ways to get around biological issues involved using technology.
I suggest you watch the movie Wall-E to see a parable on this very phenomenon. You've just realized that food doesn't come from a machine.
Based on what premise? I mean, what has happened in the last say ... 4000-10000 years to show that we have been genetically altered enough to show this is "evolution" (biological).
BTW, your club argument is not "Evolution" (biological), has the same problem. What evidence (biological) do you have to suggest beating people with clubs was an evolutionary trait?
Last time I check, we don't use clubs, but we use other things like guns, knives, tanks, bombs and aircraft. Is that evolution too?
So, are you for fornication and vegetarianism, or not fornicating and eating meat. I'm confused?
Funny, that is exactly what I think of PUBLIC EDUCATION, where Lazy, Stupid People send their kids so that they have a free baby sitting service.
Yup, that is exactly what is happening in public education, where all the "special needs" kids get all the resources and "normal" and "bright" kids get jack shit. Because we can't leave anyone behind, so everyone gets slowed down so all the kids are stupid^H^H^H^H "special".
I'm making a fairly big assumption here, that you are a social progressive / liberal type.
You just a bigot. You probably think of yourself as this highly enlightened progressive. Yeah, my kids (home schooled) probably wouldn't want to hang out with you either.
However, my kids are very well socially adjusted and can handle most situations quite fine, even if that simply means walking away from elitist dolts.
How would you like to hang out in a church for five days a week around people you don't agree with? I'm sure that they would come to the exact same conclusion you did, that you can't adjust socially and deal with the daily grind of people.
My kids are exposed to all sorts of things outside viewpoints. They all have traveled overseas for extended periods, often traveling alone. They've seen other cultures and customs, and they adjusted just fine, without having to compromise their values in the process.
And I would suggest to you that it doesn't matter what "school" a child goes to, if the parents aren't involved in "education" their kids will be "burger flippers".
Education is more than school. And school often has little to do with education. It is often just a free babysitting service so mom and dad can work and ignore the kids.
BTW, I work in public education, and I homeschool my kids. I don't want them learning what I've seen in occur in classrooms that has NOTHING to do with "education".
We regret to inform you that Child C has died due to electrical shock.
It wasn't curiosity that killed the cat, it was ignorance. Curiosity was framed.
No it isn't. What is really funny is all the vegetarians tend to be Evolutionists who haven't figured out that Humans are Omnivores designed to eat just about anything. oops, I said Designed, gasp.
I'm from PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals), and we'll take off all of our clothes in protest. And unlike that OTHER group, we're not a bunch of hot vegetarians, so you will not enjoy the spectacle .
4.
I would agree with this point. Transformers (1 & 2) weren't all that great, but I would pay $10 just to see Megan Fox. Any movie with her ( and a select few other actors ) is worth $10 to watch, regardless of plot or effects.
Um, you do realize that lots of people bashing your exalted Dear Leader Bush were harrassed by the FBI, not to mention all the legally protesting people at the RNC convention who were arrested and thrown in prison on false charges (though later released)? And then, of course, there is anti-flag burning legislation always brought up by Repugs. In red states, you can't lead anyone in a school prayer unless it is to the Protestant Fundamentalist version of God. I could go on, but really. Don't talk about the mote in your neighbor's eye when you have a whole beam in yours. Anti-hate speach legislation, while ill-founded, at least had at its heart the idea to stop the traditional practice of inflaming the mob's anger so as to go out and lynch minorities. Hardly in the same league as sending the Feds after people who simply disagree with Bush.
You only guess it was Bush. We Actually know it was Clinton, who was caught with the actual FBI files.
But that means that Clinton was incompetent and Bush was smart enough to not get caught.
The irony of selective memories.
You mean by calling the "mob" (1st Amendment type) a bunch of Teabagging Brownshirts, Swastika carrying Tim McVey types. Is that not Hate speech?
Oh wait, you mean (D) after their name makes it okay?
Area
Sweden = 449,964
California = 423,970
Sweden is larger.
Population
Sweden = 9,263,872
California = 36,756,666
Los Angeles = 11,789,487
California has 4 times the population, and LA Metro area itself has more.
Sweden is NOTHING like California, except in land mass.
5) Profit?? (fyi, alien found)
There is no morality in business.
And whose morals are you subscribing to? I can almost assure you that they are not mine. So what makes your morals (in business) better than mine?
Reaganomics came out of the failed socialist policies of Carter, and Johnson. Remember them?
And those came out of the abundance of the Post WWII boom. Which came from the detestation caused by WWII on Europe. And so on and so on.
And Bush will get blamed for much of the current economic situation, rightfully so I might add. But Obama isn't helping things much either.
Government gets in the way more than it solves problems. And for every problem it does solve, it adds several others; unintended consequences.
If you want to see morality in business, then invest long term in moral businesses, and hope they can compete with the immoral ones. And do business with moral companies, not immoral ones. But morality tends to cost more, are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?
Let me tell you a story. True story.
I used to sell computers and printers and such. I had many a customer come into my shop, and want something I was selling. Of course, there were places that sold the same stuff for less, and often people would drive 90 miles to save $5 on a $500 printer, if I didn't lower my price.
The profit margin for me, on that product was perhaps $10 or so, and the other stores were selling them at loss, or bought them in bulk or whatever, it doesn't matter for the point of the story.
These same people would then bring in the printer because it wouldn't work with their computer and want me to fix it for free. I'd laugh, and tell them I'd fix it for $45 bench fee (if I could). But often they bought the "Mac" version for the PC or the PC version for the Mac.
Or they forgot the cable, and I'd sell them a $.50 cable for $14.99. Yes, I made more money on cables than the printers.
It was then I learned that people will spend stupid amounts of time and energy trying to get that last $5 out of a $500 printer, rather than appreciating the service and value of a locally owned store.
What is funny, it is these people who complain about Walmart, BestBuy and the like for not having good sales people, and then buy from online places anyways.
I also included an example of a company that looks towards the long term rather than the short term, which you casually dismissed. You can tell a lot about people by looking in their closets and garage. I wonder, what kind of lawn mower you have.
Do you support local stores and merchants or do you shop online, at Walmart and Costco?
I bet you are the same guy who price shops while complaining about the lack of quality, service and so on. You don't know a thing about economics.
We have plenty of regulations now, I don't see any improvement for the over-regulation we've have. Corporations make promises today they have no intention or ability to keep. Hey, that sounds like all the Politicians we have today, including all those promising "universal health care", You know the ones that can't explain how they are going to add 40 million people to the free health care rolls, without adding a single doctor.
Get back to me when you can show how all the regulations which we have in place to prevent all those bubbles kept us from having those bubbles.
Don't Blame Reaganomics for this. Blame short sighted greed, where next reporting cycle is all that matters and long term performance is ignored.
If you look at the .COM bubble, the Housing Bubble, the Credit Bubble, and all the other bubbles, the whole thing was based on the next reporting cycle, and not core values and needs.
And most of those occurred under Bush and Clinton. And does anyone remember the fantastic job Carter did with the economy /sarcasm.
Sorry, but real economics is about improving products (and services), lowering cost of production (increasing productivity) and strong competition.
Our current system is broken, because Politics has dictated that it be broken. Every time some new regulation goes into place to stop some asshole from being an asshole, it affects everything else.
I blame both the (R) and the (D) for these problems, as both sides have passed ill advised and onerous regulations on production, which don't serve anything other than to drive up costs.
So now we have a country burdened by so many regulations it is cheaper, easier, and less hassles to hire a Chinese company that is unburdened by any regulations to make products for us. And quality doesn't matter because it is cheaper to replace something that is broken than it is to get it fixed.
If you want a good example of what I'm talking about, take a look at why Snapper Lawnmowers aren't sold at Walmart. And then don't buy crappy one season lawnmowers from Walmart, and get a real one from Snapper.
Snapper forsook short term gains for a long term outlook, and I applaud them.
Yes. They actually support homelessness and vagrancy and wierd people and punish normal people. They (San Fransiscans) practically promote SF as an "adult playground", and wonder why people don't bring their kids to see things like Fisherman's Wharf and the many other former cultural attractions.
And as you said, actively discriminate against people with cars, which is how a family would get to SF. I'm sorry, I'd rather take my $ and go over to the Gold Country in the foothills than SF. It is better family entertainment and fun.
We used to go see "Fleet Week" in the bay, now ... we don't. We used to go to Alcatraz and Angel Island ... now we don't. We used to do all sorts of things in the Bay ... now we don't. It just isn't worth it.
You're right, and you're wrong.
The Judge doesn't understand, he is not paid to understand.
What the Judge does understand is that letting this guy out of jail on BOND is dangerous to SF political types running the city. This is far more dangerous, in their mind, than a child rapist, mass murderer or other heinous criminal, hence the steep bail.
And the city wonders why nobody wants to visit there any more.