There is an enourmous difference between a package that can be used royalty free and modified and the vision Sun. For those of us who have been following Sun's actions, and even, yes, using their products the fact thay havn't standardized is a real issue. I'd encourage you to check out the Java Lobby, a group of developers and end users of Java for some perspective on this, including Suns effort with respect to J2EE.
Java is totally cross-platform. You don't think so? Then you don't use it.. nuff said. Hehe.. Give me a break. Take a look at what is required to even get Java to a platform they might not initially support? Blackdown?
You miss the point of being able to freely innovate, and the power of open standards. Thats the potential win with C#, and was the real loss with Java.
And please, no more of this "If you disagree with me you must be wrong" type of argument... I'm not interested, and those of us supporting open standards I suspect are not too interested either. Frankly, you either do it or you don't.
The cross platform aspects of this are the win for me.
IF you are doing something serious, the flexibility of being able to run on a mix of platforms is really important. I use Windows for my desktop, and linux on the server side. I'd give my eye teeth for C#.
The point is it will become a full out standard, and then the wonderful world of open source software will likely take it and run. Sun missed this with Java, it's good to see microsoft catch up on the vision..
You all realize that this is what Carnivore uses? Ethereal means "lacking material substance" which seems to be exactly the kind of response we get from them.
Seriously however, I've tried most Windows packet sniffers and ugh, no good. The only reasonable one is Microsoft's own sniffer, which is out of the price range of someone trying to troublehsoot HTTP streams.The rest of them usually manage to blow out your connection.
I'm hoping the FBI uses this as their sniffer so my email address doesn't get munged onto the Child Porn Pirates email traffic.
Would love to see someone throw up even a seat of the pants review of the three open source databases that have been getting a lot of attention. Interbase, MySQL and PostrgreSQL. Would be great if it included a mix or performance, scalability information, and a look at the feature sets offered.
I think this might be a first. This slashdot story was deleted. See if you can guess why:)
The question is, how many other stories have been deleted? Slashdot usually keeps stories up, mistakes and all, with the exception of adding updates an appologies. Perhaps this is one for the history books. Thoughts? Deleting stories ever legit, even in cases where it was an obvious mistake? Mirror the above story before they yank it from the archives!
Needless to say, this says something about slashdot.org quality control. They must be distracted with other parts of the business. Oh wait, running a website IS their business. Now I get it.
is doing an excellent job already. I can see the desire for another hosting prject free thing, but I can also think of more worthwhile projects to focus on, places where no one else is yet meeting a demand.
It is this point that needs to be hammered home, and hammered home hard. CSS is not about preventing piracy, it is about protecting profits on players. August
That's exactly right it does. Eric ties a lot of what is said here together, making the very important point that in this case it's not really about pirating at all, just after I read a ZDNET article entitled Judge allows pirate code or something like that.
If you've got the time to spend writing articles that both summerize and often expand on what is said here, have the media presence and public recognition, have contributed plenty to the Open Sourse community, I'd say go ahead and make yourself heard.
On the other hand, if you don't like the fact that some people get 'zeroed in on' by the media, then I say get out. Because it's either that, or some reporter reading a couple of slashdot comments, and spinning whatever story they want.
And even though I read almost every single story posted at slashdot, I enjoy reading nicely done pieces, that lay out the issues in a clear manner. What's funny is I caught his piece on Linux Today, and printed it out, passed it around. Are you printing out 400 slashdot comments instead? Give us a break.
There are always the whinners, the complainers, the nodoers. If you have a better way, by all means let the rest of us hear about it, but if it's a bunch of uninformed complaining, bah... It's probably been said before, and in this case has...
You can of course also change your HTTP user agent to just about anything you want, and you KNOW that it is being sent, and you KNOW what it says about you...
These guys are not only doing stuff that is fun to look at, they are willing to let people work on their own projects within their project... Drop them a note...
Slashdot Mirror
There is an enourmous difference between a package that can be used royalty free and modified and the vision Sun. For those of us who have been following Sun's actions, and even, yes, using their products the fact thay havn't standardized is a real issue. I'd encourage you to check out the Java Lobby, a group of developers and end users of Java for some perspective on this, including Suns effort with respect to J2EE.
Java is totally cross-platform. You don't think so? Then you don't use it.. nuff said. Hehe.. Give me a break. Take a look at what is required to even get Java to a platform they might not initially support? Blackdown?
You miss the point of being able to freely innovate, and the power of open standards. Thats the potential win with C#, and was the real loss with Java.
And please, no more of this "If you disagree with me you must be wrong" type of argument... I'm not interested, and those of us supporting open standards I suspect are not too interested either. Frankly, you either do it or you don't.
IF you are doing something serious, the flexibility of being able to run on a mix of platforms is really important. I use Windows for my desktop, and linux on the server side. I'd give my eye teeth for C#.
The point is it will become a full out standard, and then the wonderful world of open source software will likely take it and run. Sun missed this with Java, it's good to see microsoft catch up on the vision..
August
Seriously however, I've tried most Windows packet sniffers and ugh, no good. The only reasonable one is Microsoft's own sniffer, which is out of the price range of someone trying to troublehsoot HTTP streams.The rest of them usually manage to blow out your connection.
I'm hoping the FBI uses this as their sniffer so my email address doesn't get munged onto the Child Porn Pirates email traffic.
Would love to see someone throw up even a seat of the pants review of the three open source databases that have been getting a lot of attention. Interbase, MySQL and PostrgreSQL. Would be great if it included a mix or performance, scalability information, and a look at the feature sets offered.
Let them know how you feel!
kar4@psu.edu to ask for permission to link to their pages.
This gets you to
Karen Rugh, director
Department of University Relations
312 Old Main
865-2501
Thanks for writing Jon, the trolls that say we, don't speak for me.
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Missing a couple of images, mail me if you've got them. I have some other in my cache I can pull too.
The question is, how many other stories have been deleted? Slashdot usually keeps stories up, mistakes and all, with the exception of adding updates an appologies. Perhaps this is one for the history books. Thoughts? Deleting stories ever legit, even in cases where it was an obvious mistake? Mirror the above story before they yank it from the archives!
Needless to say, this says something about slashdot.org quality control. They must be distracted with other parts of the business. Oh wait, running a website IS their business. Now I get it.
is doing an excellent job already. I can see the desire for another hosting prject free thing, but I can also think of more worthwhile projects to focus on, places where no one else is yet meeting a demand.
I certainly think there should be more moderator points going around anyways...
Just bought mine as well.
With all the money companies seem to have come into, there is a real and clear need for them to take some steps and act with it.
It is this point that needs to be hammered home, and hammered home hard. CSS is not about preventing piracy, it is about protecting profits on players. August
If you've got the time to spend writing articles that both summerize and often expand on what is said here, have the media presence and public recognition, have contributed plenty to the Open Sourse community, I'd say go ahead and make yourself heard.
On the other hand, if you don't like the fact that some people get 'zeroed in on' by the media, then I say get out. Because it's either that, or some reporter reading a couple of slashdot comments, and spinning whatever story they want.
And even though I read almost every single story posted at slashdot, I enjoy reading nicely done pieces, that lay out the issues in a clear manner. What's funny is I caught his piece on Linux Today, and printed it out, passed it around. Are you printing out 400 slashdot comments instead? Give us a break.
There are always the whinners, the complainers, the nodoers. If you have a better way, by all means let the rest of us hear about it, but if it's a bunch of uninformed complaining, bah... It's probably been said before, and in this case has...
Thank you for this info - called and got the same info. I would have completly missed out otherwise. I think I'll go in for all 140.
http://www.aontic.com/snake/
Moderate up so people can take a quick look at this stuff...
You can of course also change your HTTP user agent to just about anything you want, and you KNOW that it is being sent, and you KNOW what it says about you...
I miss-typed that url... Sorry...
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This looks wonderfull... Send a note of support to info@anl.gov or the lead guy on the IBM side, tfiggatt@us.ibm.com...
These guys are not only doing stuff that is fun to look at, they are willing to let people work on their own projects within their project... Drop them a note...
Let's support these companies if we can...