No stetch of the imagination to imagine some people getting a little confused, after all, isn't this the same model as RedHat, which the news.com story points out:
"saw its shares trade for as much as 135 earlier this month, after an August IPO at 14 per share."
Thankfully they go on to point out that the company has had a loss of $17,000 with no revenue.
I'll confess I liked it better when there were more moderators or they had more points or whatever... It really moved good comments up and bad comments down. I think rob has lowered the limit and made it so people gain points more slowly then normally... He seems to like the idea of 10% of comments being moderated wheras I wish it were something like 25%. Ah well...
This article actually pushed me over the edge as well. If people THINK they are coding to Linux, and call it linux, then it seems that they are not creating a GNU system, but a linux system. Sure, it might a GNU system at heart, or a Intel Sytem, but in the end we can all call it Linux...
Well, probably because 400 people don't actually get in line... With a big event like Star Wars its no fun if everyone just rents a theatre and watches it privatly... The lines will be amazing... August
If you read the moderator guidelines I think they say that moderators are limited to a certain number of moderator points, which looks like 10 at the most. So I suppose if a moderate wanted to moderate my comment here down to -10 they could, provided they didn't do any other moderating. To get a rediculously low score (-20 or something) a bunch of moderators would probably have to gang up and use up all there points (which take about 1000 comments to accumulate) which might mean the post was pretty terrible in the first place.
Proabably not too big a worry, I'd say if you set your limit to -1000 you will be fine for sure. Why not make it -10000 actually, then you'll be fine for sure sure...:) It's only a couple of extra keystrokes.
The point with Microsoft is that they didn't allow any choice of operating system, witness how hard it is still to get one with linux or BeOS on it.
I suspect that Red Hat will allow companies to sell other products without charging them more for Red Hat (comarketing stuff MS was used to doing) especially since Red Hat can be downloaded for free, for commercial use, from ftp.redhat.com and a whole host of mirrors...
In terms of one-sided reporting, this piece by Ben Elgin (belgin@zd.com) takes the cake. I don't see ONE quote from Red Hat on the matter, despite the fact that they are the topic of the article. In fact, I don't see much of their side of the story at all.
So what's the story?
Do we want ONE standard from LSB, or do we want to let the different "quirks" thrive, the very diversity and ability to try out new ideas without "standards approval" (why does that sound so much like microsoft, and its windows logo/co-marketing deals)?
Do we really beleive that Red Hat has some proprietary libraries that allow Informix to run on their system but not one others, when ANY system, including Caldera's can take any library, even the Red Hat package manager from Red Hat and use it in their own distribution?
Do we see a company that provides programmers, bandwidth, and a damn nice distribution for free? Or do we see a microsoft which is shutting down the competition (there seem to be more distributions than ever).
What we see is a piece of rock-bottom ZDnet reporting, and I read their stuff every day, by a reporter who couldn't be bothered to get the other side of the story, and got the story wrong. It's so pathetic it is unbeleivable, and worrisome because it might be believed.
Is what we need... Slashdot just mirrors the sites that it is going to slashdot so they are not slashdoted...
August
Time for an open letter to Red Hat? NO
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Red Hat Backlash?
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Give us all a break... Their stuff is GPL'd and they are paying programmers to do it... I can't think of anything better... We need to show that GPL and Open Source do not mean poverty, and Red Hat is doing exactly that, and more. IBM will now start supplying drivers for Netfinity servers... because of a couple of odd hackers? No way. Because of companies like Red Hat.
Stop stressing, take their code, and code yourself if you are too worried. But you'll find you don't have the resources to move as quickly as they have on so many fronts...
Slashdot Mirror
Here's the requisite mirrors of the source and binary
source binary
Nice idea, and get's my vote... Also curious if hot-comments feed on themselves. Once you are listed you probably tend to stay listed...
The story here:
:)
No stetch of the imagination to imagine some people getting a little confused, after all, isn't this the same model as RedHat, which the news.com story points out:
"saw its shares trade for as much as 135 earlier this month, after an August IPO at 14 per share."
Thankfully they go on to point out that the company has had a loss of $17,000 with no revenue.
Yow
Java? Ugh... Let's put the beat to rest...
A nice high quality product, only weekness is it's damn FrontPage extensions which cause far more trouble then they are worth...
If you grab it could you then mirror it again? I will as soon as I can get it, but MIT is across the country and slow...
I'll confess I liked it better when there were more moderators or they had more points or whatever... It really moved good comments up and bad comments down. I think rob has lowered the limit and made it so people gain points more slowly then normally... He seems to like the idea of 10% of comments being moderated wheras I wish it were something like 25%. Ah well...
This article actually pushed me over the edge as well. If people THINK they are coding to Linux, and call it linux, then it seems that they are not creating a GNU system, but a linux system. Sure, it might a GNU system at heart, or a Intel Sytem, but in the end we can all call it Linux...
Well, probably because 400 people don't actually get in line... With a big event like Star Wars its no fun if everyone just rents a theatre and watches it privatly... The lines will be amazing... August
If you read the moderator guidelines I think they say that moderators are limited to a certain number of moderator points, which looks like 10 at the most. So I suppose if a moderate wanted to moderate my comment here down to -10 they could, provided they didn't do any other moderating. To get a rediculously low score (-20 or something) a bunch of moderators would probably have to gang up and use up all there points (which take about 1000 comments to accumulate) which might mean the post was pretty terrible in the first place.
:) It's only a couple of extra keystrokes.
Proabably not too big a worry, I'd say if you set your limit to -1000 you will be fine for sure. Why not make it -10000 actually, then you'll be fine for sure sure...
The point with Microsoft is that they didn't allow any choice of operating system, witness how hard it is still to get one with linux or BeOS on it.
I suspect that Red Hat will allow companies to sell other products without charging them more for Red Hat (comarketing stuff MS was used to doing) especially since Red Hat can be downloaded for free, for commercial use, from ftp.redhat.com and a whole host of mirrors...
In terms of one-sided reporting, this piece by Ben Elgin (belgin@zd.com) takes the cake. I don't see ONE quote from Red Hat on the matter, despite the fact that they are the topic of the article. In fact, I don't see much of their side of the story at all.
So what's the story?
Do we want ONE standard from LSB, or do we want to let the different "quirks" thrive, the very diversity and ability to try out new ideas without "standards approval" (why does that sound so much like microsoft, and its windows logo/co-marketing deals)?
Do we really beleive that Red Hat has some proprietary libraries that allow Informix to run on their system but not one others, when ANY system, including Caldera's can take any library, even the Red Hat package manager from Red Hat and use it in their own distribution?
Do we see a company that provides programmers, bandwidth, and a damn nice distribution for free? Or do we see a microsoft which is shutting down the competition (there seem to be more distributions than ever).
What we see is a piece of rock-bottom ZDnet reporting, and I read their stuff every day, by a reporter who couldn't be bothered to get the other side of the story, and got the story wrong. It's so pathetic it is unbeleivable, and worrisome because it might be believed.
Just a suggestion...
Is what we need... Slashdot just mirrors the sites that it is going to slashdot so they are not slashdoted...
August
Give us all a break... Their stuff is GPL'd and they are paying programmers to do it... I can't think of anything better... We need to show that GPL and Open Source do not mean poverty, and Red Hat is doing exactly that, and more. IBM will now start supplying drivers for Netfinity servers... because of a couple of odd hackers? No way. Because of companies like Red Hat.
Stop stressing, take their code, and code yourself if you are too worried. But you'll find you don't have the resources to move as quickly as they have on so many fronts...
Slow as well from here. I'd post a traceroute, but I think it is pretty clear that the problem lies in the server somewhere...