To make that fit your mold, you would have to argue that universal health care is some sort of right inherent in man's existence.
The Constitution says: 1 - These are a list of areas that the FEDERAL government is allowed jurisdiction 2 - Anything not mentioned as a role of the FEDERAL government is a role of the STATE 3 - Just because it's not listed doesn't necessarily mean it's not a right of the people
So, yes, you could argue that universal health care is a right of the people but you still have to stretch to enumerate it as a role of the FEDERAL government.
Read the article a little more closely. He isn't a standard run-of-the-mill electricity consumer. He runs benchmarks on hardware from his home requiring multiple pcs running at full bore (I'm inferring the last part based on experience in the load testing arena). Additionally, he DOES live in CA so he probably runs the AC more than someone who lives in MI.
If you look at my power bill, you might say the same thing. I have running at home right now, the following:
- Dell M1710 laptop - Dual-CPU Opteron workstation with all slots filled (650W power supply) - dual proc p3 (yes pentium 3) file server with attached storage array - dual-core 1CPU myth-backend with hdhomerun tuner (so external power) - celeron myth-frontend upstairs - wife's dual-core desktop - wife's laptop in charging mode - laserjet printer - inkjet printer - wife's lcd - two lcd's on my desk - WAP - 3 network switches on different floors of the house - External (eSata or FW) drives on both desktops - DSL modem
That's just the computing stuff. Let's not forget the consoles, dvd player, amp and tv.
Now in all fairness, much of that gear is in low-power/powersave mode but you might look at my power bill and wonder the same thing.
This I can agree with to some extent. It would obviously depend on the details.
Take the whole Microsoft antitrust case. As a free market capitalist, I had trouble reconciling my feelings on the case vice my feelings on capitalism.
Antitrust is one of those itchy issues. When it comes down to it, antitrust legislation is there to ensure that the people who would abuse the monopoly they've earned in a market segment allow competitors the same opportunity.
Microsoft was the enemy of capitalism in that case.
Then sometimes we end up with useless legislation like SOX which has done nothing more than prop up legal and accounting businesses as well as storage and data retention businesses.
First off, most Libertarians are concerned with the proper roll of the federal government as defined in the Constitution. That has nothing do to with roads per se or even having those handled by private entities.
Secondly, there's a valid Constitutional argument that the federal government does, indeed, have a role in roads under the authority for interstate commerce.
What many people argue for, in terms of privatization, is getting the government out of the business of actually staffing the show. Why do we have such a large DMV? Why not farm the maintenance out to a private company that has to go through a bidding process?
I've never argued that roads need to be privatized but I have argued that we don't need a multi-thousand employee DMV when a private company can do it much more efficiently.
Well I'm married and have a 4 month old and just started playing last year. You'll level up fairly quickly and new toons are being created all the time (either actual new players or alts for existing players) so you're never having problems finding help.
The DK hero class actually helps keep the previous expansion alive because those people still need to level up to 68 before they can hit the current content.
The first example I could think of was what was done in Blade's Edge Mountain for the Mana Wyrm daily. You just had to use a "device" to phase out.
Isle of Quel'Danas used the same technology but it was server wide. The also used the same tech on the Kalecgos fight in SWP.
WotLK really goes one step further. They sort of "mask" the transition by having you go somewhere else and come back.
The area you're talking about is The Shadow Vault. That and the Argent Vanguard quests to make headway into Icecrown are amazing in terms of landscape changing.
Yeah I'm a huge fan of phasing but right now I'm sitting on the Bloodbane quest in Icecrown because I can't find anyone who's on that step yet.
It's NOT soloable (I'm a prot pally. I can solo pretty much anything). At a minimum, we would need me, a dps and a healer (even though it's marked for g5). It's getting really frustrating. Doing the quest before it (the three riders) was just as frustrating. I ended up duoing it with a rogue.
I'm glad you resorted to personal attacks against my political persuasion.
Why should a private company be required to provide universal education? If you want to argue that education has some sort of intrinsic public good, then that's a whole other discussion. I might even agree with you.
But your second paragraph has nothing to do with the first.
I'd be glad to address that but my wife just got home with my son and he's more important than slasdhot. I'll be back, though.
I think the current economic crisis is a sign of what happens when governments get involved with the decision making of private businesses as well as private businesses working against their own best interest for short term gain.
Name one government program that has been successful over the long haul or even the short term.
Meanwhile, I could name plenty of businesses that have changed and morphed with the times to continue to provide a service people want and need for extended periods of time.
Kicking out bad students, yes. Special education students isn't even the same thing unless you're equating being a fuckup with having a learning disability.
Special education students are, for the most part, segregated from the rest of the population due to special learning needs.
But I know what you're implying and it's just stupid. The same free market that creates a private school for exceptional students, also creates a private school for special education students as well as creates a free market for fuckups.
First off, we're not a democracy so that doesn't really matter.
Secondly, any government school system will always pale in comparison to a private one because the government is terrible at managing anything.
We've thrown how much money over the years at schools and what difference has it made? Not a whit. Government shouldn't be in the business of education anyway.
I love how you chose to slap "capitalist" in front of it like it's a dirty thing. Despite the fact that this thread has NOTHING to do with your issue whatsoever.
You're a shameless attention whore (regardless of posting anonymously) and if you think the story has enough merit then you should submit it and see if it gets posted to the front page.
What were you hoping for? Some kind of worldwide geek outrage at the situation? Maybe you should do something about the school board and school that is forcing students to use the service as opposed to the company that those people are using.
That's the wrong quote. Again. There are two things we're talking about here. The quote we've pasted a few times now WAS on the page. I'm not sure if it was under Service or Education but it appears that the site has already "changed" again.
Does anyone have an archive of what it looked like before the recent updates?
I risked the same thing. I'm not making any statement on Obama or trying to call him or compare him to the Nazi's but the whole "This Corps" and "That Corps" did have a decidedly Nazi feel to it.
There's a difference between someone "choosing" to step outside their comfort zone and being forced to.
Again, no one is arguing that community service is bad. No one is arguing that. What is being argued is that the government, at least as presented in this plan, thinks they have a right to dictate what I do with my free time.
It's directly counter to the ideals of personal freedom and liberty.
You didn't HAVE to get the FAFSA loan. That's just the requirement for the loan. The government already attaches strings to federal money - see federal highway funds.
There's a separate part of his plan that deals with community service in exchange for college tuition credit. I'm still up in the air on that one. IF the government is going to be getting into the business of giving out my money even more, I'm glad I'll be getting something FOR it but I'd just prefer to keep that money myself and give it to who I see fit.
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Wow. Way to take that WAY out of context.
To make that fit your mold, you would have to argue that universal health care is some sort of right inherent in man's existence.
The Constitution says:
1 - These are a list of areas that the FEDERAL government is allowed jurisdiction
2 - Anything not mentioned as a role of the FEDERAL government is a role of the STATE
3 - Just because it's not listed doesn't necessarily mean it's not a right of the people
So, yes, you could argue that universal health care is a right of the people but you still have to stretch to enumerate it as a role of the FEDERAL government.
FYI, I just looked and the August power bill from last year was $243. I live in Georgia and that's pretty much the hottest time of the year.
I'd leave the windows open more but humidity is terrible for books and the wife and I have a rather large personal library.
Read the article a little more closely. He isn't a standard run-of-the-mill electricity consumer. He runs benchmarks on hardware from his home requiring multiple pcs running at full bore (I'm inferring the last part based on experience in the load testing arena). Additionally, he DOES live in CA so he probably runs the AC more than someone who lives in MI.
If you look at my power bill, you might say the same thing. I have running at home right now, the following:
- Dell M1710 laptop
- Dual-CPU Opteron workstation with all slots filled (650W power supply)
- dual proc p3 (yes pentium 3) file server with attached storage array
- dual-core 1CPU myth-backend with hdhomerun tuner (so external power)
- celeron myth-frontend upstairs
- wife's dual-core desktop
- wife's laptop in charging mode
- laserjet printer
- inkjet printer
- wife's lcd
- two lcd's on my desk
- WAP
- 3 network switches on different floors of the house
- External (eSata or FW) drives on both desktops
- DSL modem
That's just the computing stuff. Let's not forget the consoles, dvd player, amp and tv.
Now in all fairness, much of that gear is in low-power/powersave mode but you might look at my power bill and wonder the same thing.
Who cares what it best for the US Economy? The most important unit in the world is the individual.
If I want work, I'll offer my services at a rate I see fit. I'm not here to prop up your salary.
Don't try and bait people with some false sense of patriotism.
You say the Free Market is a fantasy because you don't have the ability to compete yourself.
This I can agree with to some extent. It would obviously depend on the details.
Take the whole Microsoft antitrust case. As a free market capitalist, I had trouble reconciling my feelings on the case vice my feelings on capitalism.
Antitrust is one of those itchy issues. When it comes down to it, antitrust legislation is there to ensure that the people who would abuse the monopoly they've earned in a market segment allow competitors the same opportunity.
Microsoft was the enemy of capitalism in that case.
Then sometimes we end up with useless legislation like SOX which has done nothing more than prop up legal and accounting businesses as well as storage and data retention businesses.
The argument that the owner wouldn't spend the money to expand is just as specious as the argument that people would buy more pizzas.
Just let the people keep their money and spend it where THEY see fit instead of trying to prop up the pizza delivery business.
What do libertarians have to do with it.
First off, most Libertarians are concerned with the proper roll of the federal government as defined in the Constitution. That has nothing do to with roads per se or even having those handled by private entities.
Secondly, there's a valid Constitutional argument that the federal government does, indeed, have a role in roads under the authority for interstate commerce.
What many people argue for, in terms of privatization, is getting the government out of the business of actually staffing the show. Why do we have such a large DMV? Why not farm the maintenance out to a private company that has to go through a bidding process?
I've never argued that roads need to be privatized but I have argued that we don't need a multi-thousand employee DMV when a private company can do it much more efficiently.
The current stink happened because the government didn't get out of the way enough.
It injected itself in private business affairs through things like the housing market.
This Keynesian bullshit that's been going on since FDR is going to just continue to fuck us.
Having the government artifically prop-up the economy only leads to bubbles and busts like we're seeing now.
Keynes, is that you?
Maybe the reason the private sector is scared of the risks is because they're...risky?
Why, then, does it make sense for our government to take that risk.
The odds aren't really in the government's favor here.
Well I'm married and have a 4 month old and just started playing last year. You'll level up fairly quickly and new toons are being created all the time (either actual new players or alts for existing players) so you're never having problems finding help.
The DK hero class actually helps keep the previous expansion alive because those people still need to level up to 68 before they can hit the current content.
Yep. The term they use is "phasing".
The first example I could think of was what was done in Blade's Edge Mountain for the Mana Wyrm daily. You just had to use a "device" to phase out.
Isle of Quel'Danas used the same technology but it was server wide. The also used the same tech on the Kalecgos fight in SWP.
WotLK really goes one step further. They sort of "mask" the transition by having you go somewhere else and come back.
The area you're talking about is The Shadow Vault. That and the Argent Vanguard quests to make headway into Icecrown are amazing in terms of landscape changing.
Bloodbane, after the three Riders. Most definitely not soloable.
It's honestly the FIRST quest I've come across that uses phasing that really WASN'T soloable:
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=13164
Yeah I'm a huge fan of phasing but right now I'm sitting on the Bloodbane quest in Icecrown because I can't find anyone who's on that step yet.
It's NOT soloable (I'm a prot pally. I can solo pretty much anything). At a minimum, we would need me, a dps and a healer (even though it's marked for g5). It's getting really frustrating. Doing the quest before it (the three riders) was just as frustrating. I ended up duoing it with a rogue.
You first used the term, not me. In my mind, a bad student is one who is disruptive and is actively hampering the education of the other students.
And that's just a start.
I'm glad you resorted to personal attacks against my political persuasion.
Why should a private company be required to provide universal education? If you want to argue that education has some sort of intrinsic public good, then that's a whole other discussion. I might even agree with you.
But your second paragraph has nothing to do with the first.
I'd be glad to address that but my wife just got home with my son and he's more important than slasdhot. I'll be back, though.
I'm trying to find, where in my copy of the Constitution that an education is somehow a right.
There are a lot of things that make you better if you have the money to afford them.
Being poor is expensive.
I think the current economic crisis is a sign of what happens when governments get involved with the decision making of private businesses as well as private businesses working against their own best interest for short term gain.
Name one government program that has been successful over the long haul or even the short term.
Meanwhile, I could name plenty of businesses that have changed and morphed with the times to continue to provide a service people want and need for extended periods of time.
Kicking out bad students, yes. Special education students isn't even the same thing unless you're equating being a fuckup with having a learning disability.
Special education students are, for the most part, segregated from the rest of the population due to special learning needs.
But I know what you're implying and it's just stupid. The same free market that creates a private school for exceptional students, also creates a private school for special education students as well as creates a free market for fuckups.
So really you're just talking out of your ass.
First off, we're not a democracy so that doesn't really matter.
Secondly, any government school system will always pale in comparison to a private one because the government is terrible at managing anything.
We've thrown how much money over the years at schools and what difference has it made? Not a whit. Government shouldn't be in the business of education anyway.
I love how you chose to slap "capitalist" in front of it like it's a dirty thing. Despite the fact that this thread has NOTHING to do with your issue whatsoever.
You're a shameless attention whore (regardless of posting anonymously) and if you think the story has enough merit then you should submit it and see if it gets posted to the front page.
What were you hoping for? Some kind of worldwide geek outrage at the situation? Maybe you should do something about the school board and school that is forcing students to use the service as opposed to the company that those people are using.
Which I did this weekend. Lemme just say - wow. So much fun.
That's the wrong quote. Again. There are two things we're talking about here. The quote we've pasted a few times now WAS on the page. I'm not sure if it was under Service or Education but it appears that the site has already "changed" again.
Does anyone have an archive of what it looked like before the recent updates?
Ahh good old google:
http://www.google.com/search?q=by+developing+a+plan+to+require+50+hours+of+community+service+in+middle+school+and+high+school+and+100+hours+of+community+service+in+college+every+year&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
You can see that the site WAS modified. Maybe that was just clarification or it could have been in response to the concerns posted all over the place.
I risked the same thing. I'm not making any statement on Obama or trying to call him or compare him to the Nazi's but the whole "This Corps" and "That Corps" did have a decidedly Nazi feel to it.
There's a difference between someone "choosing" to step outside their comfort zone and being forced to.
Again, no one is arguing that community service is bad. No one is arguing that. What is being argued is that the government, at least as presented in this plan, thinks they have a right to dictate what I do with my free time.
It's directly counter to the ideals of personal freedom and liberty.
You didn't HAVE to get the FAFSA loan. That's just the requirement for the loan. The government already attaches strings to federal money - see federal highway funds.
There's a separate part of his plan that deals with community service in exchange for college tuition credit. I'm still up in the air on that one. IF the government is going to be getting into the business of giving out my money even more, I'm glad I'll be getting something FOR it but I'd just prefer to keep that money myself and give it to who I see fit.