Well most probably direct involvement with the virtual students (I understand that class will also have some physical ones) will be 0. But this is not the point of the course, is it? They want to test if they can effectively create and maintain a distributed teaching environment and measure the differences in the quality of knowledge obtained. Most of the people who enroll might not be fully aware of that but you will be a product, as well as a student, in this course.
Wouldn't stop me from enrolling had I had the luxury of time. Hell, if they crack it maybe one day we actually will live in a world where education is available to everyone.
I know it's credential chain is not big/cool/long or anything useful to busyness men in a meeting room, but for creating a secure tunnel between a server and a browser I believe it's quite good enough. It definitely is better than teaching the merits of public key crypto to every visitor of your domain. Oh and yes their UI royally sucks..
In general: if you want customer assurance go with the big names/pricetags if you just want a tunnel go with the first dude who is trusted by the browsers and will give it to you for free or almost free. if only you and your pals are going to use it sign something yourself and get out of the trouble of manouvering around buggy cert UIs.
Well, the hardware manufacturers are. But you can attribute this to evolution I guess.
The only problem I see with SaaS is that it is locking you in quite seriously. I mean, once you get invested in any SaaS offering you don't really have a way out. Same goes for onLive. If you can't keep up with paying the subscription you end up with nothing at all, even though you have actually paid the purchase prive of a game, let alone the fact that you can't get bargain prices for older games (second hand phenomenon).
and on the color thing it isn't even that absolute.
SGS2 is totaly black when off iph4 is mostly black with an aluminium bezel
galaxy tab has a metal finish back (at least the 10.1 ones that I saw) apple tab is completely black or completely white.
And trying to compare the software is a bit like demanding for all leafs on a tree to be different. It is evolution, the better performing layout gets adopted. Full stop.
well, You guys in the Americas have a very clean way out of this. You do have some vast areas of desert that can be retrofited with solar farms and I think some guys already are doing this (and try to produce energy during the night aswell) solar one video
So just go and pave the entire desert with those and when finished do the same thing to the sahara (or whatever region of the planet You last bombed into a desert);-)
As I said a couple of replies earlyer: I can't find any refference on wikipedia/google/microsoft that VS 2010 and later are FOSS, who said that and where is it? And why is wikipedia wrong again?
And why if they opensourced it are they still refusing to publish a native linux binary?
WAIT!!! wikipedia (or microsoft) doesn't mention VS being OSS nor is the mentioned license a FOSS license, it's a proprietary one. Why are you spreading misinformation AC?
Also I would like to point out that: Android has no value atm. It is not a dependable distribution of software. Since you are not buying it, You don't have a contract of support and since it isn't open source ( you can't compile your own android spin atm ) You cannot depend on it being supported for your needs in the future. It is a nice bundle of binaries sure but you have no power over it so it's value to population is Null.
And don't even get me started on the JAVA idiocy... So please guys stop calling cyanogenmod for the touchpad an increase in value because it isn't. The device has an already much better OS, don't destroy it by frankendroiding it. The cm dev's time could have been better spent streamlining the TouchPad's own OS or working on the compatibility layer for native linux apps instead of trying to remove it.
Oh and btw: I think the correct spelling is fanboi:P
and before anyone starts yelling: I am the proud owner of a samsung galaxy s2 and a 1st gen iPad. They are tools, I don't like them nor do I value them greatly.
The point I want to make is that it isn't a sin to fall back to rudimentary techniques when high tech fails you. This could also work very fine against the "My dad doesn't allow me to install stuff on my laptop so I can't do my homework" excuse. Don't go thinking that this is a very small tiny little point to make because it has much bigger implications than you might think. Learning how to fall back, technology and workflow wise, makes more productive people and that is a domain constantly overlooked by educational systems around the world.
Just ask yourself how many offices keep up productivity during telecom or electricity downtimes. Now think about the offices that degrade into mayhem and panic with the smallest hickup in those infrastructures.
You are right on all accounts but ignore the reason why building minecraft machina in a sandbox is more fun than programing an FPGA: Minecraft still is a game, programing FPGA's on the other hand is at best a hobby (if not straight out work for some). So it is the gamelike qualities that encourage for this. The fact that you can have Friends pop into the server your sandbox lives in and help out (or destroy everything). It is the community that you belong to when doing this.
Don't look at this quantitatively, this is not a survival game in a free economy, this is doing things because you can. And that is true nerd spirit!
When I got my "introduction to programming" we brought our homework back on paper and were evaluated on how big our bugs were. That was about two decades ago. What is the problem with kids today bringing in their 10 line programs in on paper or a text file? I mean if they really want to they could.
I don't really care about the percentages, they usually only represent what the author can perceive and in such they are almost always irrelevant.
I do agree on your other point though. I like to bash ACs (just because I can and they are ACs) but I am not bashing/. for having them. In the contrary I support the fact that/. supports added levels of anonymity. This way even the wimps can express their honest position. And that's a good thing imo. But let's not get over our heads here. If You want to be taken seriously about a contra anonymity position you have to post eponymous..
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Well most probably direct involvement with the virtual students (I understand that class will also have some physical ones) will be 0. But this is not the point of the course, is it? They want to test if they can effectively create and maintain a distributed teaching environment and measure the differences in the quality of knowledge obtained. Most of the people who enroll might not be fully aware of that but you will be a product, as well as a student, in this course.
Wouldn't stop me from enrolling had I had the luxury of time. Hell, if they crack it maybe one day we actually will live in a world where education is available to everyone.
I got a free cert from startsll quite easily.
I know it's credential chain is not big/cool/long or anything useful to busyness men in a meeting room, but for creating a secure tunnel between a server and a browser I believe it's quite good enough. It definitely is better than teaching the merits of public key crypto to every visitor of your domain. Oh and yes their UI royally sucks..
In general:
if you want customer assurance go with the big names/pricetags
if you just want a tunnel go with the first dude who is trusted by the browsers and will give it to you for free or almost free.
if only you and your pals are going to use it sign something yourself and get out of the trouble of manouvering around buggy cert UIs.
because even intel is shying off of meego
Well, the hardware manufacturers are. But you can attribute this to evolution I guess.
The only problem I see with SaaS is that it is locking you in quite seriously. I mean, once you get invested in any SaaS offering you don't really have a way out. Same goes for onLive. If you can't keep up with paying the subscription you end up with nothing at all, even though you have actually paid the purchase prive of a game, let alone the fact that you can't get bargain prices for older games (second hand phenomenon).
Apple will do a great job with Lenovo as well.
What? You didn't notice it?
It's a rectangular, black device with an aluminium bezel and rounded corners.
Let loose the Apple patent dogs!!!!!
Is capital offense the one where you get de-capita-ted?
Then count me in!
(goes away to sharpen axe....)
here you go Samsung picture frame of 2006
and quite fitting since apple obviously sourced the design of the first iphone (revealed a year after said appliance) on this.
Die bad apple die! :-P
and on the color thing it isn't even that absolute.
SGS2 is totaly black when off
iph4 is mostly black with an aluminium bezel
galaxy tab has a metal finish back (at least the 10.1 ones that I saw)
apple tab is completely black or completely white.
And trying to compare the software is a bit like demanding for all leafs on a tree to be different.
It is evolution, the better performing layout gets adopted. Full stop.
has anybody actually succeeded in patenting something as subjective as "design"?
That's like say trying to patent computer code. Oh wait....
I welcome your inclination to free and open source media formats ;-)
well, You guys in the Americas have a very clean way out of this.
You do have some vast areas of desert that can be retrofited with solar farms and I think some guys already are doing this (and try to produce energy during the night aswell) solar one video
So just go and pave the entire desert with those and when finished do the same thing to the sahara (or whatever region of the planet You last bombed into a desert) ;-)
As I said a couple of replies earlyer: I can't find any refference on wikipedia/google/microsoft that VS 2010 and later are FOSS, who said that and where is it? And why is wikipedia wrong again?
And why if they opensourced it are they still refusing to publish a native linux binary?
Huh? I dind't know that. (shame on me).
WAIT!!! wikipedia (or microsoft) doesn't mention VS being OSS nor is the mentioned license a FOSS license, it's a proprietary one.
Why are you spreading misinformation AC?
You use mac OSX on servers? and what do you do with linux then?
very well phrased sir.
I am sick and tired of all this appCount fever.
Also I would like to point out that:
Android has no value atm. It is not a dependable distribution of software. Since you are not buying it, You don't have a contract of support and since it isn't open source ( you can't compile your own android spin atm ) You cannot depend on it being supported for your needs in the future. It is a nice bundle of binaries sure but you have no power over it so it's value to population is Null.
And don't even get me started on the JAVA idiocy...
So please guys stop calling cyanogenmod for the touchpad an increase in value because it isn't. The device has an already much better OS, don't destroy it by frankendroiding it. The cm dev's time could have been better spent streamlining the TouchPad's own OS or working on the compatibility layer for native linux apps instead of trying to remove it.
Oh and btw: I think the correct spelling is fanboi :P
and before anyone starts yelling: I am the proud owner of a samsung galaxy s2 and a 1st gen iPad. They are tools, I don't like them nor do I value them greatly.
I always thought it was popular practice to loose the trailing e under such syntax.
Well, who said that the anonymous mass won't teach you a thing or two?
I don't understand you, sorry
Sure, I am not arguing about that.
The point I want to make is that it isn't a sin to fall back to rudimentary techniques when high tech fails you. This could also work very fine against the "My dad doesn't allow me to install stuff on my laptop so I can't do my homework" excuse.
Don't go thinking that this is a very small tiny little point to make because it has much bigger implications than you might think. Learning how to fall back, technology and workflow wise, makes more productive people and that is a domain constantly overlooked by educational systems around the world.
Just ask yourself how many offices keep up productivity during telecom or electricity downtimes.
Now think about the offices that degrade into mayhem and panic with the smallest hickup in those infrastructures.
I think that You are not getting it.
You are right on all accounts but ignore the reason why building minecraft machina in a sandbox is more fun than programing an FPGA: Minecraft still is a game, programing FPGA's on the other hand is at best a hobby (if not straight out work for some). So it is the gamelike qualities that encourage for this. The fact that you can have Friends pop into the server your sandbox lives in and help out (or destroy everything). It is the community that you belong to when doing this.
Don't look at this quantitatively, this is not a survival game in a free economy, this is doing things because you can.
And that is true nerd spirit!
When I got my "introduction to programming" we brought our homework back on paper and were evaluated on how big our bugs were. That was about two decades ago. What is the problem with kids today bringing in their 10 line programs in on paper or a text file? I mean if they really want to they could.
WAIT!
You imply that they are truthful in general?
Please please change your layout, everytime I visit your site my eyes explode. 200px for a main content container just don't cut it...
I really don't like having duplicate accounts.
What makes you think this is a good thing?
I don't really care about the percentages, they usually only represent what the author can perceive and in such they are almost always irrelevant.
I do agree on your other point though. I like to bash ACs (just because I can and they are ACs) but I am not bashing /. for having them. In the contrary I support the fact that /. supports added levels of anonymity. This way even the wimps can express their honest position. And that's a good thing imo. But let's not get over our heads here. If You want to be taken seriously about a contra anonymity position you have to post eponymous..
In the words of the wise /. :
"Forced Identity validation is a good thing!"
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I think that the Internet has worked and evolved quite fine without a Fascist governor screening, tagging and branding you.