The problem is that it's so easy to slippery slope this in many different directions. You don't need to identify the people before it starts getting uncomfortable or creepy. Sure, face gives you a good stab at gender and age. Clothing style would tell you more - predominantly black, and you could offer them a cheap knife and tell them to kill themselves. Denim with patches on, you offer them some glue or solvents and tell them that the fucking 80s is over.
Me, I think I'm gonna reserve the right to wear a face-mask when I enter the shop. They'll of course reserve the right not to serve me, and escort me from the premises. Then I'll exercise my right to go back to the open-air market that I traditionally shop at, rather the corporate bottom-line-is-everything cess-pit that is apparently the modern supermarket, and promise to not make the same mistake again.
What are you eating? Food doesn't just land on your plate. We were accomplished hunters of animals in pre-agricultural times. And we didn't hunt with our bare hands - we were fashioning spears and other weapons to aid in hunting, and other knives for food preparation and clothing manufacture. We were making rope, and making sleds.
There were plenty of specialised tasks to do before we decided to settle down. If you've got specialisation, and a system of quid pro quo, then you've got professions, IMHO.
> Now if the good professor could just predict which variables will be important in advance, we could skip all this messy data collection and analysis and simply leap to conclusions.
One can contrive a middle ground that bridges the gap. There was bugger all posted to this thread, which I found boring, I'm glad I managed to whip up some interesting discussion. In particular getting the Aaronson link was a win.
There's plenty of logic to be found in the gamut of topics under teh umbrella called "philosophy", but basically no philosophy in what's called "logic". However, I admit I'm biased. I remember at university the pure mathematicians (inc. me) used to get particularly wound up by the philosophy grads - they really were wackos (who were indulgin in metaphysics most of the time).
> And switching to traditional compensation packages would eat into Oracle's profits.
Only if he were to get a nett 76 million via that mechanism. Maybe the shareholders think that he doesn't deserve to be compensated anything like that amount?
They are in the same district of Seoul, but 1321-1 and 1320-10 are not just different buildings, they're not even the same block. Post codes aren't even the same 137-857 vs. 137-070.
Let's stick to facts - they are both in one of the most prestigious part of the capital city. Alas that's not really such a great conspiracy, is it?
You've clearly never plotted direct dumps of data from passing overhead weather satelites. Clue - the plots you receive are not rectangular - data arrives quicker than desired as it's approaching you, and arrives later than desired as it recedes from you. Almost as if Doppler shift were having some significant influence.
I presume he's serious, and even though I am a privacy advocate, I am too. I should have the right to record and process in any way I desire every EM wave that passes through my cranial void.
Just because you can record the physical EM wave doesn't mean that the payload encoded within it is accessible.
*All* sensible crypto assumes that the cypher text is publically known. Known, recorded, duplicated, processed, filtered, brute-forced, dictionary-attacked, absolutely-anything-you-want-to-do-with-it-ed.
Of course that means you should ensure that you "trust the maths" rather than "trust the industry consortium who developed the standard in secret".
Everyone on the internet should know that ASL is short for "age / sex / location". Clearly the sex has already been ascertained, presumably from the nick in use, if complements about tits are already being made.
But you've got to award DEFCON troll points for the bit of the scoring system that says: "Format, structure, grammer, layout, general quality of the report... 0-50 points"
50 points for "grammer"! Trolling indeed is a art.
I'm even more of a leet haxor, breaking teh lawz - I just printed out a copy of the PDF and gave it to my girlfriend, thus violating the copyright notice on it! Their so-called "copyright protection" is teh w34kest ev4r!
I would contend that he who makes the best spearheads, or makes them most efficiently, would probably be relied upon for making spearheads for many other hunters, and possibly not even have a hunting role himself. So perhaps flint-knapper is the oldest profession? (Wood equivalents too.)
However, we really don't know how far back prostitution goes, so date comparisons are destined to be uncertain.
Maybe shaman is the oldest profession?
A *lot* (in fact everything) depends on how you define "profession", of course.
Input = 4 eyes. Whirr, whirr, crunch, crunch: "Greenday CDs now only 8 dollars".
Everything you use to confuse it could be used as input it could use to profile you. Your best defence is to be as nondescript as possible.
Your best offence is to take your money elsewhere.
> That it is done by computer rather than a person is irrelevant.
Oh, noes, the corporate bastards are now using our anti-patent arguments against us!
> Hint, dude:
/argumentum ad dudam/ fallacy. Therefore you're wrong!
Ah, the
The problem is that it's so easy to slippery slope this in many different directions. You don't need to identify the people before it starts getting uncomfortable or creepy. Sure, face gives you a good stab at gender and age. Clothing style would tell you more - predominantly black, and you could offer them a cheap knife and tell them to kill themselves. Denim with patches on, you offer them some glue or solvents and tell them that the fucking 80s is over.
Me, I think I'm gonna reserve the right to wear a face-mask when I enter the shop. They'll of course reserve the right not to serve me, and escort me from the premises. Then I'll exercise my right to go back to the open-air market that I traditionally shop at, rather the corporate bottom-line-is-everything cess-pit that is apparently the modern supermarket, and promise to not make the same mistake again.
+5
I.e. I wouldn't have bought any of my 5 n900's (yes, I just bought another...) if it was capacitive.
What are you eating? Food doesn't just land on your plate. We were accomplished hunters of animals in pre-agricultural times. And we didn't hunt with our bare hands - we were fashioning spears and other weapons to aid in hunting, and other knives for food preparation and clothing manufacture. We were making rope, and making sleds.
There were plenty of specialised tasks to do before we decided to settle down. If you've got specialisation, and a system of quid pro quo, then you've got professions, IMHO.
> Now if the good professor could just predict which variables will be important in advance, we could skip all this messy data collection and analysis and simply leap to conclusions.
Obligatory XKCD - the green ones.
(No, I can't be arsed to find a link.)
[sig]> http://plover.net/~bonds/asdf.html (not mine, unfortunately)
Dang. The webmaster of asdf.org, asdf.fi, and asdf.ee (i.e. me) wants the rights to host that webcomic! Maybe I'll have to draw my own...
One can contrive a middle ground that bridges the gap. There was bugger all posted to this thread, which I found boring, I'm glad I managed to whip up some interesting discussion. In particular getting the Aaronson link was a win.
There's plenty of logic to be found in the gamut of topics under teh umbrella called "philosophy", but basically no philosophy in what's called "logic". However, I admit I'm biased. I remember at university the pure mathematicians (inc. me) used to get particularly wound up by the philosophy grads - they really were wackos (who were indulgin in metaphysics most of the time).
...are by definition metaphysics.
So perhaps this belongs in a philosophy journal, not a scientific one?
> Twitter is under no obligation to link you to anything at all.
You seem to be confusing not being obliged to link you to anything, and being obliged not to link you to things that would be considered libelous.
For example, I am under no obligation to post this correct list of slashdotters who do not perform regular goat rape:
Slashdotters who do not perform regular goat rape:
FatPhil (ID: 181876)
But I am under an obligation to not post an inaccurate list of slashdotters who do regularly perform goat rape:
Slashdotters who regularly perform goat rape:
Scutter (ID: 18425)
No, but *on a computer* !!!!1!!yksi!!yksitoista!!
Until google step up and say they can solve it all with map-reduce...
> And switching to traditional compensation packages would eat into Oracle's profits.
Only if he were to get a nett 76 million via that mechanism. Maybe the shareholders think that he doesn't deserve to be compensated anything like that amount?
They are in the same district of Seoul, but 1321-1 and 1320-10 are not just different buildings, they're not even the same block. Post codes aren't even the same 137-857 vs. 137-070.
Let's stick to facts - they are both in one of the most prestigious part of the capital city. Alas that's not really such a great conspiracy, is it?
You've clearly never plotted direct dumps of data from passing overhead weather satelites. Clue - the plots you receive are not rectangular - data arrives quicker than desired as it's approaching you, and arrives later than desired as it recedes from you. Almost as if Doppler shift were having some significant influence.
I presume he's serious, and even though I am a privacy advocate, I am too. I should have the right to record and process in any way I desire every EM wave that passes through my cranial void.
Just because you can record the physical EM wave doesn't mean that the payload encoded within it is accessible.
*All* sensible crypto assumes that the cypher text is publically known. Known, recorded, duplicated, processed, filtered, brute-forced, dictionary-attacked, absolutely-anything-you-want-to-do-with-it-ed.
Of course that means you should ensure that you "trust the maths" rather than "trust the industry consortium who developed the standard in secret".
Everyone on the internet should know that ASL is short for "age / sex / location". Clearly the sex has already been ascertained, presumably from the nick in use, if complements about tits are already being made.
But you've got to award DEFCON troll points for the bit of the scoring system that says: ... 0-50 points"
"Format, structure, grammer, layout, general quality of the report
50 points for "grammer"! Trolling indeed is a art.
I'm even more of a leet haxor, breaking teh lawz - I just printed out a copy of the PDF and gave it to my girlfriend, thus violating the copyright notice on it! Their so-called "copyright protection" is teh w34kest ev4r!
The fact that we were doing a whole range of specialised tasks *before* embarking on agriculture takes the wind out of those sails.
I would contend that he who makes the best spearheads, or makes them most efficiently, would probably be relied upon for making spearheads for many other hunters, and possibly not even have a hunting role himself. So perhaps flint-knapper is the oldest profession? (Wood equivalents too.)
However, we really don't know how far back prostitution goes, so date comparisons are destined to be uncertain.
Maybe shaman is the oldest profession?
A *lot* (in fact everything) depends on how you define "profession", of course.
counter-counter-measure: still fail blank pieces of paper
Heheh, but I modified the firmware so that the first check of the day returns "dud"!