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Smartphone Sales: Apple Squeezed, Blackberry Squashed, Android 81.3%
mrspoonsi writes "Engadget reports: Smartphone market share for the third quarter...as you'd imagine, the world is still Android's oyster. Strategy Analytics estimates that the OS has crossed the symbolic 80 percent mark, reaching 81.3 percent of smartphone shipments by the end of September. Not that Google was the only company doing well — Nokia's strong US sales helped Windows Phone grow to 4.1 percent of the market, or nearly double what it had a year ago."
Samsung alone accounts for 1 million of those, leaving 1.3 million per day for others. Here are the per-company numbers.
It will be interesting to see if LG can deliver enough of the Nexus 5 to bump their numbers over the holidays.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
And it only took 3 years. Way to go WiPho. Even BB moved 30 percent in less time.
with smartphones as in the 80s with the computers. It followed a practice of a closed ecosystem, keeping everything proprietary and trying to control everything. Android today is what IBM and compatible was back in the day. The same way apple computers became just a niche market back then, iphones are becoming right now.
And the market is clearly choosing. I wonder how much longer Apple's ecosystem effects (iTunes, App stores, Macs/iOS integration, custom ARM chips, religiously devoted fanbase) will continue to hold cachet what with their irrevocable iOS upgrades, wifi-destroying firmware, high price, and highly "cultivated" store. Sure, with Android you have a risk of malware and not always being able to upgrade right away or at all... but when you're only paying $2-300 vs. $500+ for iPhone, you can afford to get newer hardware more often.
Strategy Analytics is the company Samsung uses to push the numbers they like to the press, while at the same time avoiding any regulatory oversight. Strategy Analytics‘ Korean headquarter even is in the same building as Samsungs.
Here in Australia, Apple have completely priced themselves out of the market. ... I just bought the Nexus 5.
iPhone 5S 16 GB: $869
Compared with a brand-spanking-new:
Google Nexus 5 16 GB: $420 (inc. shipping)
It's hard to justify _double_ the price for effectively the same thing.
Needless to say
Bring out the clowns (... err lawyers): http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/31/rockstar-consortium-nortel-patent-google-lawsuit/
[] apple computers became just a niche market back then, iphones are becoming right now. []
Both are/will be very profitable niche markets though:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/10/30/apple-earned-more-than-samsung-lg-nokia-huawei-lenovo-motorolas-mobile-shipments-combined
And regarding Androids ubiquity, fragmentation or open-source-ness, this article suggests Google wants more control:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/
Android is what IBM was? You mean doomed to become totally obsolete in the phone business the same way IBM was?
I could understand what you meant if you had likened Android to Microsoft or even Compaq but to a company who no longer makes PC's and whose PC OS (OS/2) was dead on arrival seems you either think Android is doomed, or have a shaky grasp of IT history.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
The numbers from Strategy Analytics' competitors show the same story, so your point is kind of moot.
I'm sad to see Blackberry, a local company, getting so little love... They are still one of the best phone out there for business purpose but lack a few feature that many people take for granted these days. (an app store that doesn't s*ck and have people actually developing for it for example.)
Ahh, another no-name two-bit "analytics" firm! It's really hard to pry numbers out of anybody but Apple regarding the number of phones that are in the hands of actual consumers. Google likes to pussyfoot around with "activations" and Samsung will tell you how many they loaded into shipping crates, but nobody actually thinks they are purposefully this obscure regarding their phone numbers for no reason. And let's not even talk about Microsoft's dishonesty regarding their sales numbers.
These analytics firms all have serious issues, as well. They may pay a developer peanuts to throw their shitware / bloatware into a free game (or even a paid app, yikes!) and they might be able to get some of the more idiotic "home page" type setups like Gawker to put their scripts up, but they only ever manage to sample a small, small number of the actual smartphone users out there.
The most reliable numbers come from the Wikipedia, a resource used by most everybody. The Wikimedia Traffic Analysis Report obviates the need for shitty poo-butt bloatware "analytics" firms whose job it is to obscure an already obscure statistic, and the numbers for smartphones in September 2013 break down thusly:
Total Mobile: 29.5%, all Apple mobile OS versions: 18.1%, all Android versions: 8.47%, all Blackberry: 0.47%, all Windows Mobile: 0.33%.
Since we're only dealing with 29.5% of the total traffic to Wikimedia-related sites in the mobile category, a burst of quick math will tell us what percentage of all mobile devices are running which OS's. 61.78% of the mobile devices are Apple devices, 28.62% are Androids of ANY MAKE, 1.59% are Blackberries, and a whopping 1.11% are Windows Mobiles. This only totals to 93.1%, the rest being a bunch of other amalgamated nonsense brands like Sony or Symbian and "Linux Other" aka Nokia.
Quite a different story than the fuckin' crapware two-bit "analytics" firm's tale.
"But WAIT, RocketRabbit," you say, "We're talking third quarter here!" And to that I laugh, a big hearty har har har, as you are such a fuckin' twit that you don't realize that most of the companies out there are either flat-out lying about their numbers, aren't telling, or are going by some bullshit made-up statistic like Google's shady "activations." Oh, I know the numbers guys at lame ass investment firms need these percentages to justify quarterbacking loser companies for the next quarter, but they live in their own little fantasy world and real life facts are not important to their economic calculations.
So what's all this tell you? You're an idiot of the highest order if you think anybody but Apple is actually telling you how many phones they actually sold into the hands of consumers. And there's a reason they're not telling you, dummy!
I believe that the stat is skewed.
I have friends in India, Bangladesh, Africa, Thailand, Indonesia who sell phones, and they tell me that, for every one Nokia smartphone that they sell, they sell 8 Nokia non-Smartphones.
Nokia's offerings in many 3rd world countries are largely comprise of very cheap cellphones, selling as cheap as 15 euro (or about 20 USD) a pop.
None of those phones has Windows installed on them.
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
Ahh, another no-name two-bit "analytics" firm! It's really hard to pry numbers out of anybody but Apple regarding the number of phones that are in the hands of actual consumers. Google likes to pussyfoot around with "activations" and Samsung will tell you how many they loaded into shipping crates
Ironically for you Apple also publish "shipped" figures and they do so because they are confident they can sell their products, and I agree with them. Here is them defending their massive sales drop in iPads "Regarding iPad, Oppenheimer said the year-over-year drop in iPad numbers from 17 million to 14.6 million units was in part the tough comparison with last year’s debut f the third-generation model, with no such revamp this past spring, and also the reduction in channel inventory last quarter of 700,000 units versus a year-earlier build of 1.2 million units." http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2013/07/23/apple-fyq2-call-the-iphone-beat-defending-ipad-margins-and-the-rest/
The bottom line is Apple is not competing effectively for market share, because of its weak...but incredibly profitable product line.
I'm sad to see Blackberry, a local company, getting so little love... They are still one of the best phone out there for business purpose but lack a few feature that many people take for granted these days. (an app store that doesn't s*ck and have people actually developing for it for example.)
I always hoped that Facebook would buy them. Facebook is a killer app and a perfect march for BBM. With the Rise of Twitter(supported heavily by Apple!?), and Google+(supported by well Google). I think they have both missed a real opportunity.
Those prices are in line with North America as well.
America is an unusual market that has a business model by carriers that allows for highly subsidised phones. So Price has less impact as well. It has allowed the iPhone which is a cheap phone with an expensive selling price to be massively profitable (The same model in china means it commands 1%). Samsung is selling phones with more expensive features (large screen, more memory, faster processor) at a cheaper price...as a direct competitor to Apple, something you perpetuate here, and it has also made it very profitable (well and they are cutting edge, manufacture in america, and have a large product range, using features customers want)
Perpetuating a lie https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YDYUrD22Xq12nKkhBfwoJBfw2Q-OReMr0BrDfHyfyPw/pub?start=false&loop=false&delayms=3000#slide=id.g1202bd8e5_05 here is Googles response.
The bottom line is their is a real problem with Apps stealing users data on *every* platform; it needs to be addressed, The Android lie is not only offensive; It obscures a real problem.
Agreed, but ... also realize it needed Steve Jobs to pull the iPhone off, as all others did not have the vision. We would still have clumsy phones without Job
Ironically their is strong evidence, that Apple copied from Sony. Even if it is not true it shows clearly that others were moving in the the same direction. We also saw in the trial the massive range from Samsung in the pipeline, we also see full screen prototype from Google. Hell they were beaten to market by similar phones
The reality is Apple came out the gate with an great first product, and have become the richest company by market cap on the planet because of it, but that was then and the myth of Steve Jobs is now hurting not helping Apple
You can buy a lot of replacement apps with the $300 you save switching from iPhone to Android.
Not to sound like a hater but in all honesty my Android phone is a glaring piece of shit. It's the single worst cell phone I have had in my life.
When I first got it, it was great, but now I deal with daily crashes, daily reboots without my intervention, It loses its wi-fi signal after about 10 minutes of use, the onscreen keyboard is frustrating to type on, speech to text is garbage and rarely works.
I don't know what I'm going to get next, maybe a Blackberry, but I can't wait to get rid of my Android phone, a phone I loved when I first got it.
Do they have "cramming" in countries where Nokia feature phones are popular? Here in the United States, if the carrier detects you putting a voice-only SIM in a phone with a smartphone IMEI, the carrier will automatically subscribe you to a data plan.
Apple had the lead for the first eight months of 1984, I'll grant. But Hercules already had a 720x352 monochrome card out, and in September 1984, IBM introduced the Enhanced Graphics Adapter (EGA) with 640x350 pixel 16 color graphics.
If you keep it two years you'll pay $9/mo more for the phone, while you are paying $70+/mo for service no matter which phone you choose. If you prefer the android app store, or don't use apps, or just plain hate yourself, you can save that $9/mo, but it's just $9/mo for a device that will cost a lot more than that. And if we're entering the time of good-enough smart phones, as we have with computers, so you'll keep it longer than two years, then the comparison is even weaker.
It's the same MHz-per-dollar argument nerds and people bad at math have used to dismiss apple for three decades. It doesn't work for everyone.
Lets see some quality statistics with no spin:
Which models of all smart phones are the most profitable per device?
Which company has the highest profit derived from smartphone sales?
What are the top 5 android devices by sales?
What percentage of total sales are the top 5 android devices?
What are the top 5 android devices by profit?
I think you'll find some very interesting numbers there that are worth discussing not the same old "I have all the marbles. No! I have all the marbles!" stats.
I looooove watching their reaction when I tell Apple fanboys, who are convinced that iPhones rule the world, that for every apple phone out there, there's about 4 Android ones. They're in an unwise minority who can't see past their own prejudice to buy a superior product from someone other than Apple. That and their music and contacts and apps are all stuck in the TrApple (iCloud, i-devices, etc) so they couldn't switch if they wanted to.
Apple. Pay a lot for basic features. Be prepared to pay even more after.
Stand censorship about what you can see and what you cannot, because God (which is, as we all know, dead) decides what's good for you and what is not.
Stand bussiness standards much worse than any even ruled by the maffia, if you decide to run business with them.
And still, people wonder why this company is going down ???
Funny.
I just want that god awful google search bar off my home screen by default. Or just an easy option to remove it without warning messages about how it'll break other applications and suh bullshit
So it's the same as shipped.
They shipped more phones than they did last quarter, the market is just growing faster than their percentage of it. They have higher margins on their products as well, so I don't see why we would say Apple was being "squeezed" ?
I keep getting cries for "Where's the Android version?" for my very popular iOS Apps.
To which i reply "Where's the revenue/reward for me?"
Sure look at the handsets sold and say Android reins supreme.
What about the revenue from App & In-App sales on iTunes verses Google Play?
According to AppAnnie's figures this week iTunes still makes 2x more for developers than Google Play.
When you take into account the number of Android handsets out there compared to Apple ones it's an even more incredible stat.
Apple's not a niche player. If anything they are a cherry picker.
They own the smart phone market for the wealthy.
Another recent article also high lightened that mobile Ad's were more valuable on iOS than on Android.
The margins Apple makes on it's iPhones mean it is still king of the hill in handset -profits-.
I don't see that changing and I don't see myself writing my Apps for Android
(downloaded Eclipse yesterday and what an eye sore it is compared to Xcode)
Today's revelation is that it's not enough to make stuff people want. They need to be able to buy it as well. Apple is a premium brand, so one of the two conditions (the ability to buy) is not met. Android fills this gap nicely. Blackberry lost the want factor some time back, and Microsoft plunged head-first into premium teritory without a want too. And, as you can find in the later article, when all business strategies fail, litigate about patents.
I use a voice-only T-Mobile SIM in my smartphone without issue.
Not everybody has the money to move to a place where T-Mobile has adequate signal coverage. The other three major carriers either cram (AT&T) or don't use SIMs and outright refuse to activate voice-only service on handsets (Verizon Wireless and Sprint).
I've never understood why anyone would buy one that didn't already have at least one OSX machine.
Because they bought a first-generation iPhone before Android was released, perhaps? Or because iPhone was the only serious phone that could play iTunes Store music before iTunes went DRM-free?
How does it modify the hosts file without root? If not, how would I gain root without wiping the device?
My carrier is AT&T.
Why can't you switch your carrier to be no longer AT&T?
AT&T does NOT sell the Nexus 5. So I have to buy one for $350 from Google. On the flip side I just bought an iPhone 5s for $199.
You bought your iPhone 5S for $199 plus whatever the current early termination fee is. It just looks like $199 to customers within the United States because unlike T-Mobile, AT&T refuses to itemize the phone subsidy. How much does service for your iPhone 5S on AT&T cost over the next 24 months, compared to a comparable plan on T-Mobile for a Nexus 5?
Yes, let's use Wikipedia accesses as our measure - because of course there are no major markets where that's irrelevant. Heck, more Italians visit Wikipedia than Chinese. And let's pretend that all those Samsung S4/S3/Note3 handsets were just shipped, not sold. Yeah, that's dealing honestly with the evidence. Sheesh. Get over it, Android's winning everywhere but the US.
"Ahh! I see you're in that indeterminate Schrodinger state where - oh, uh
This is not good, I'd like to see a more diverse market rather than one supremely dominant player.
I see this kind of articles all the time, but the numbers just dont add up for me personally. Sure a lot of my friends and family have Android phones, but not 80% of them. Where I live (London) I would say its a 50/50 toss between iPhones and Android users. Or is it maybe the case that iPhone users keep their phones for longer? (my old iPhone has been passed down to my mum, then to my sister and now to my cousin). Are Android users just buying new phones more often than iPhones users?
"They haven't made it impossible, but they've made some very large barriers to entry. Amazon can afford to maintain replacements for all of the Google applications, and even its own app store. Few other companies can."
Samsung has the money, and the motivation. Undoubtedly Google's moves are attempting to thwart Samsung. Samsung doesn't yet have the ability to operate as a serious software company. They can buy talent and partner with talent, but that doesn't yet give them deep institutional understanding and capability. Why are they so hot on programming their own skins and additional apps onto their phones? What does it give the user (not that much). What does it give the company (plenty, they have developed an experience base to build up for the long-term plan). If they succeed at that (and they have a good chance as they've been exceptional at everything else), Android will be a minority platform once again.
There will be Samdroid as the dominant software target and Google will complain about "forking" and haranguing people to use only "pure, authentic Android."
The ex-Sun people on the Java ME team will laugh bitterly into their unemployment checks.
" However, Apple really isn't in the phone business as much as they are in the content delivery business. They'll still put out great iPhones; but they'll be aimed at tying people tighter into the whole eco-system. That is an area that gives them an advantage over their competitors because they don't offer the same end to end experience (yet). The iPhone, iPad, AppleTV and Mac will all be ways to deliver content i this customers that allow happen to text, make phone calls and run programs."
Apple makes much more money in profits and revenues from hardware---and iPhone hardware to be specific---than anything else.
Content revenues are relatively insignificant and will stay insignificant.
Remember that Apple's revenue is about the same as Chevron's and twice IBM's and JPMorgan (biggest mega-bank!), three times ConocoPhillips, and 5 times Goldman Sachs.
It's ***enormous***, only exceeded by Exxon, Walmart and Saudi Aramco.
There's no remote way that content revenue (maybe 1% of that) could possibly substitute to run Apple's business. Apple trying to make money on content instead of hardware leads to a Blackberry death-spiral outcome.
Content network and ecosystem is there to promote the attractiveness of the hardware.
I do not think one can compare different manufacturers use rate since OS and geography has an impact, but you probably can compare Galaxy S4 to S3 to S2. Notice that the S4 is selling very poorly compared to the S3 at this time.
I think the total cost of ownership of an iPhone is much less than a high end Android phone due to its longevity and OS upgrade policy.
By rooting the device without wiping it. I have NEVER had to wipe an Android device just to root it.
Then you are fortunate not to have had to root a Nexus 7 tablet. I haven't found a way to root one of those without wiping it.
I think the platform market share hard-on comes from network effects of being able to sell applications for a platform, which are complements to a device that implements that platform.
Only because dickheads like HTC keep making phones which dont have removable SD cards and batteries because they believe the moron that told them that is why iPhones sell.
That or the fact that if you make a phone with an SD card slot and sell it in Slashdot's home country without licensing certain file system patents from Microsoft, you will get sued for patent infringement, and you will lose.
Kindle Fire tablets tend to have zero bars on public transit. So let me rephrase: It's nearly impossible to fork Android on a cellular phone and grow a market share, even if you're a big corporation with lots of cash to spend.
You, the lay man, can't build a smartphone from components.
Nor a laptop PC.
Then you didn't look hard enough or indeed at all since it's so easy to find.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
I've used bin4ry's script to root several phones and a couple tablets. One tablet being a Nexus 7. All without wiping.
At work it seems like 80% of the employees have iPhones and 18% have Android. I work for a car dealership.
Then you didn't look hard enough
Guilty as charged.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
The thread is 341 pages, and search is down. I read the first few and last few pages, and one user reported that it put his device (not a Nexus 7) into a bootloop. How should I determine whether or not it'll do the same to a Nexus 7 running Android 4.3? Or, returning to the previous question, how should I back up first in case it does?
I've used bin4ry's script to root several phones and a couple tablets. One tablet being a Nexus 7.
Was this a Nexus 7 running Android 4.3 or Android prior to 4.3?
Readers from Slashdot's home country are the minority here.
What do you recommend that readers from Slashdot's home country do to qualify for a work visa in order to leave minority status?
you lied
What I wrote was "if the carrier detects you putting a voice-only SIM in a phone with a smartphone IMEI, the carrier will automatically subscribe you to a data plan (source: Slashdot article 'AT&T: Don't Want a Data Plan for That Smartphone? Too Bad.')" I thought the link to an article whose title includes "AT&T" would make it clear that I was referring to AT&T. T-Mobile USA is useless in areas without its signal, and carriers in countries other than the United States are useless without some way of getting a work visa.
" However, Apple really isn't in the phone business as much as they are in the content delivery business. They'll still put out great iPhones; but they'll be aimed at tying people tighter into the whole eco-system. That is an area that gives them an advantage over their competitors because they don't offer the same end to end experience (yet). The iPhone, iPad, AppleTV and Mac will all be ways to deliver content i this customers that allow happen to text, make phone calls and run programs."
Apple makes much more money in profits and revenues from hardware---and iPhone hardware to be specific---than anything else. Content revenues are relatively insignificant and will stay insignificant. Remember that Apple's revenue is about the same as Chevron's and twice IBM's and JPMorgan (biggest mega-bank!), three times ConocoPhillips, and 5 times Goldman Sachs. It's ***enormous***, only exceeded by Exxon, Walmart and Saudi Aramco. There's no remote way that content revenue (maybe 1% of that) could possibly substitute to run Apple's business. Apple trying to make money on content instead of hardware leads to a Blackberry death-spiral outcome. Content network and ecosystem is there to promote the attractiveness of the hardware.
I think we are in general agreement although I may not have been clear what I meant by "content delivery business." What I meant was Apple wants to be the way content is accessed by the user through hardware and use that to to deliver, via software, and sell content as well. They really are building a foundation to replace the traditional cable TV delivery model; which is why cable companies are pushing for bandwidth caps and buying content developers. They don't want to be the dumb pipe that lets others sell content at a premium, and they want to control the content so they can dictate how it is delivered and charge for the bandwidth used as well.
I foresee a day when instead of buying cable packages you can buy shows or channels al la carte from iTunes, and view them on multiple devices so you get your content wherever you are. No more DVR since everything is viewed on demand. Want a lower price? Watch it with ads or pay a premium for ad free TV. Apple could really get a premium for ad time since they can serve tailored ads based on an Apple ID and the info they have on the account owner.
I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
samsung doesn't sell anything, they only "ship" product. and they count that TWICE by including the returns SHIPPED BACK, which are all of them
But by smash's logic, that'd mean the Mac had the lead from 1984 until 1990 when DPMI 0.9 let DOS programs run in 32-bit protected mode.
The new Nokia Lumia's show that Nokia can still make great hardware - e.g 41 megapixel camera. I'd buy one like a shot if it ran Android, to replace my ageing Nokia E71.
I will not buy a Windows phone though. I have to use Windows on the desktop, but I want a more open architecture on my phone, which LOTS of companies support. So I'll probably buy a Samsung or HTC, or maybe the Nexus 5 which I see is now out.
Cheap phones sells more than premium phones. Just too bad the money isn't there. Serious it is just plain stupid looking at market share alone when it mostly consists of "smart"phones that have replaced the feature phones. Come back when it's the high end Androids dominating.
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no common consumer multitasking
By the time MultiFinder was made mandatory in System 7, Windows 3 was doing the same cooperative multitasking that Mac OS would continue for nearly the next decade.
You are right. I checked some maps and pics and would say they are very adjacent samsung headquarters. As there are passageways but no streets between the buildings I’d say it is the same block though.