Heres my ultra-paranoid explanation. I would think that by getting ahold of this organization, that you might be putting yourself at risk of being investigated. Once they have you asking about prices and costs, they have you. you have no choice but to pay from that point on. Best bet: if you own pirated software, and want to make it legitimate, this may be your answer. But if you don't intend on paying for it, don't call this place up.
"they'll track you down like animals, like dirty, dirty animals."
I just want to see the successive videos from the "earlier stages" of the system's development (ie I wanna see the computer driven cars eat it)
I am joe american
This whole saga kinda reminds us all of the whole Hyperion thing (Jim Clark's 200 foot sailboat, sailed by 25 sgi workstations) - now that's a project.
my situation:
no internet access at home.
some internet access at work, occasionally leeching there.
mostly trade music w/friends through burned cds
occasionally go to local university to leech music.
as for portability, have you heard of the 100s (maybe not 100s, ok) of portable mp3 players?
reading and writing? well, you have bigger problems to worry about that listening to music if you can't read or write.
I understand poorness, as I am myself, but this being a site dedicated to the linux/pc scene, most people could probably build their own computers with minimal difficulty, and most of them have jobs within the computer industry. I cater to my audience.
I'm sick of the RIAA bringing morlaity into this whole arguement. They aren't exactly moral compasses themselves, no, they're middlemen. Middlement who aren't even needed anymore. These people are stealing from the ARTISTS. Just because they control the means to get the product to the public does not legitimize taking 90% of the profits from the product. Anti-RIAA rants are getting old, but public opinion as a whole still needs to be changed. Its also sad, yet comical to see RIAA affiliated companies trying to carve out bigger pieces of the pie as they see their whole world crumbling, as it will disintegrate completely in the next 5 years. hooty hoo
that sucks, i'm not even getting the obligitory 20k hits that Dell says Apache "supports". Nothing worng yet, but, I always like to make technical decisions based on commercial propaganda, so looks like IIS for me.
A few people brought out some ideas on BBSes, and I think that should be emphasized.
I'll bet our esteemed friend didn't have the privilage of being involved in BBS communities just a few years ago. Its not his fault that the internet is pretty disassociated. Certainly there are examples of people on the internet uniting with common interests, and creating some kind of structure to cater to that. Never to the degree that BBSes did however. It was almost as if the limitations of the day made the system stronger; can't use long distance? Have a smaller more intimate community; Don't have high resolution graphics? Make ansi an extremely evolved artform.
From todays perspective, the Web is a very commercial, very business centric medium that caters to the creation of money almost exclusively, look at slashdot, probably one of the more community-oriented sites on the web today, still has banner ads to make extra money. This attitude runs rampant (and was NOT present in most BBS comunities of years passed) and explains why there are no community sites - because the 'community' doesn't often run them.
Yeah, Tim Berners-Lee, he's great and all, but he gave us the text web. Marc Andreesen should head the list if they want to get into who created the web we know and love today.
1. Most of the people who are blabbing about how lame/stupid/bloated solaris is compared have never used solaris
2. Linux sucks on real computers. Yes, real computers, SGIs, Suns, etc. PCs are "commodity hardware" - cheaper, slower, less reliable, and have more bottlenecks than anheiser busch.
3. Most of the people posting "information" about cobalt have probably never touched one their products.
4. Sun will probably do a pretty good job porting solaris by virtue of them having more experience with non-commodity hardware. So..
You can flame this, troll it, whatever. I just have seeing people talking about something they know nothing about, and being forced into this stupid "linux scene". Look back once in a while, the mob mentality is wrong more often than you may think.
eof
1. We use English(American) measurements. The entire world, every single country, is now on metric. To sell to us,
they have to convert the manuals, go through QA on the new verbiage, and go through our silly tech rules.
I like the English system, its kinda fun running around talking about how many grains are in a bushel.
2. We have ridiculous legal constraints. Face it, we're sue happy
When some rich prick runs you over with his Lexus SUV, you'll be thinking alot differently
3. We insist on retesting everything ourselves, instead of taking the tests of the EU and Canada and other countries
into consideration. Seriously, we're talking an extra year right there.
A year in the life of what animal? It really shouldn't take too long to hold a geiger counter up to a stereo, and say, jeez, that thing is making our lab techs sterile!
4. We insist on stupid standards. Look at HDTV or Wireless. The entire world is using GSM and we insist on
another standard for wireless. And don't get me started on HDTV.
gosh, you just don't understand, its not about making standards, its about the freedom to innovate.
something (randomly) funny:
$whois aol.com
Whois Server Version 1.1
Domain names in the.com,.net, and.org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
Europe is ultra fudgepacked, they have a major city like every five feet, its no wonder they can afford to have full coverage cell phone service. Meanwhile, we sitting here in the states have to use ground wire connections. Too bad I guess, even though I see it as more than fair, because, us crazy Americans have more internet bandwidth than the rest of the world combined and doubled. So have fun flossing your cell phones Europe, because I'm sure having fun here at my oc3 connected job picking my nose and looking at porn.
wow, that sorta sucks that you completely misunderstand jesus. It'd be kinda cool if you realized that jesus came here to tell us to get along. Its sad that there are so many people in this world that completely misunderstand god and his intentions. They memorize biblical stories yet draw the wrong conclusions from them. I don't care if everyone in the world is a christian. When did it become my right to impose my will and my beliefs on others? If jesus were alive today, he'd laugh at how much everyone just doesn't get it. By the way, were you home schooled?
Does anyone else find it bizarre, that no matter how illegal mp3 piracy is, we see major companies making mp3 players to everyones delight. I mean, obviously there's alot of free mp3 music out there, but I really don't think the hype could sustain itself unless people had pirated things. Anyway, I just find it comical in a sense that another major player has decided to enter this market of selling "paraphanilia" [sic]. I guess it would be akin to Corningwear selling bongs, or Sony selling pirate radio kits.
well, maybe the guy with the gun skips your neighborhood. Nevertheless, it'd just be nice if we weren't in the mindframe that media should cost money. thanks for picking out one word of my statement and arguing with it, but you missed the rest of the idea.
The saddest part about the whole piracy debacle is that it is simply too late to really do away with some of the companies that sustain themselves by selling intelectual property. Its kinda sad that that copyright law didn't evolve with the times. But now we have to pay hundreds of dollars for some pieces of plastic that do crazy shit when you shine lasers at them. Hrmph
What makes things like netbsd good is not the distribution, the distribution isn't important. BSD inherently has a better kernel. Long live America. (and the Regents of the University of California)
So true, and likewise, much of what goes into Linux isn't GNU either, it's bits and pieces of BSD that no one could create themselves. So whenever you look at your docs and see "(c) The regents of the university of california" remember, we were here first
honestly, I'm going to give this product a maximum shelf life of maybe 2 years. It might seem like impressive technology now but there are some definite dated ideas about this technology:
1. its mechanical. mechanical things break (when was the last time you wore out your ram?)
2. how long will it take to create a cd? even with significant advances in cd burning speed, they might be able to squeeze out 5 minutes for a full cd (which is still incredibly optimistic). well, 5 minutes is way too long for normal people (people who never BBSed for any length of time at least) to tolorate.
3. people can deal with cables, usb or otherwise. it used to be commonly accepted that if something wasn't on floppy disk or cd, it wouldn't gain broad market appeal, not at all true now. We;ve seen things like mp3 players and video cameras having solid links and easily selling well.
proposed solution: throw a lot more ram in it and just hook it up. CDs only waste time and money. late
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Heres my ultra-paranoid explanation. I would think that by getting ahold of this organization, that you might be putting yourself at risk of being investigated. Once they have you asking about prices and costs, they have you. you have no choice but to pay from that point on. Best bet: if you own pirated software, and want to make it legitimate, this may be your answer. But if you don't intend on paying for it, don't call this place up.
"they'll track you down like animals, like dirty, dirty animals."
The last Novell thing I ever dealt with, was IPX in Doom2.
Get Doom III production rolling, and gentlemen, we have ourselves a saved company.
I just want to see the successive videos from the "earlier stages" of the system's development (ie I wanna see the computer driven cars eat it)
I am joe american
This whole saga kinda reminds us all of the whole Hyperion thing (Jim Clark's 200 foot sailboat, sailed by 25 sgi workstations) - now that's a project.
A good way to strip down your installation of linux (ONLY ROOT CAN DO THIS!!!)
/root ..
.. using the rm command
>cd
>echo 'kernel->use::minimalconfig' >> -r\ -f\
reboot your system
remove the file "/root/-r -f
HAPPY GAMING!
it doesn't matter how fun the games are. it matters if they can convince the consumer to spend $200 on a mass produced console.
to do this they need stats.
voxels/sec is a stat
"fun-ness" is not
can I get ess! can I get an Jee! can I get an eye! can I get an ess-jee-eye! (with one of those things in it)
my situation: no internet access at home.
some internet access at work, occasionally leeching there.
mostly trade music w/friends through burned cds
occasionally go to local university to leech music.
as for portability, have you heard of the 100s (maybe not 100s, ok) of portable mp3 players?
reading and writing? well, you have bigger problems to worry about that listening to music if you can't read or write.
I understand poorness, as I am myself, but this being a site dedicated to the linux/pc scene, most people could probably build their own computers with minimal difficulty, and most of them have jobs within the computer industry. I cater to my audience.
I'm sick of the RIAA bringing morlaity into this whole arguement. They aren't exactly moral compasses themselves, no, they're middlemen. Middlement who aren't even needed anymore. These people are stealing from the ARTISTS. Just because they control the means to get the product to the public does not legitimize taking 90% of the profits from the product. Anti-RIAA rants are getting old, but public opinion as a whole still needs to be changed. Its also sad, yet comical to see RIAA affiliated companies trying to carve out bigger pieces of the pie as they see their whole world crumbling, as it will disintegrate completely in the next 5 years. hooty hoo
that sucks, i'm not even getting the obligitory 20k hits that Dell says Apache "supports". Nothing worng yet, but, I always like to make technical decisions based on commercial propaganda, so looks like IIS for me.
A few people brought out some ideas on BBSes, and I think that should be emphasized.
I'll bet our esteemed friend didn't have the privilage of being involved in BBS communities just a few years ago. Its not his fault that the internet is pretty disassociated. Certainly there are examples of people on the internet uniting with common interests, and creating some kind of structure to cater to that. Never to the degree that BBSes did however. It was almost as if the limitations of the day made the system stronger; can't use long distance? Have a smaller more intimate community; Don't have high resolution graphics? Make ansi an extremely evolved artform.
From todays perspective, the Web is a very commercial, very business centric medium that caters to the creation of money almost exclusively, look at slashdot, probably one of the more community-oriented sites on the web today, still has banner ads to make extra money. This attitude runs rampant (and was NOT present in most BBS comunities of years passed) and explains why there are no community sites - because the 'community' doesn't often run them.
Theres my disjointed rant
eof
poll idea:
'drug of choice'
Yeah, Tim Berners-Lee, he's great and all, but he gave us the text web. Marc Andreesen should head the list if they want to get into who created the web we know and love today.
eof
1. Most of the people who are blabbing about how lame/stupid/bloated solaris is compared have never used solaris 2. Linux sucks on real computers. Yes, real computers, SGIs, Suns, etc. PCs are "commodity hardware" - cheaper, slower, less reliable, and have more bottlenecks than anheiser busch. 3. Most of the people posting "information" about cobalt have probably never touched one their products. 4. Sun will probably do a pretty good job porting solaris by virtue of them having more experience with non-commodity hardware. So.. You can flame this, troll it, whatever. I just have seeing people talking about something they know nothing about, and being forced into this stupid "linux scene". Look back once in a while, the mob mentality is wrong more often than you may think. eof
1. We use English(American) measurements. The entire world, every single country, is now on metric. To sell to us, they have to convert the manuals, go through QA on the new verbiage, and go through our silly tech rules.
.com, .net, and .org domains
I like the English system, its kinda fun running around talking about how many grains are in a bushel.
2. We have ridiculous legal constraints. Face it, we're sue happy
When some rich prick runs you over with his Lexus SUV, you'll be thinking alot differently
3. We insist on retesting everything ourselves, instead of taking the tests of the EU and Canada and other countries into consideration. Seriously, we're talking an extra year right there.
A year in the life of what animal? It really shouldn't take too long to hold a geiger counter up to a stereo, and say, jeez, that thing is making our lab techs sterile!
4. We insist on stupid standards. Look at HDTV or Wireless. The entire world is using GSM and we insist on another standard for wireless. And don't get me started on HDTV.
gosh, you just don't understand, its not about making standards, its about the freedom to innovate.
something (randomly) funny:
$whois aol.com
Whois Server Version 1.1
Domain names in the
can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
AOL.COM.KCAUTOWEB.COM
AOL.COM.EATMYSHIT.ORG
AOL.COM
Yeah, Joseph Smith is always right about these kinds of things.
ok, why does your nokia link to mot.com, are you trying to make a funny, or what dude?
Europe is ultra fudgepacked, they have a major city like every five feet, its no wonder they can afford to have full coverage cell phone service. Meanwhile, we sitting here in the states have to use ground wire connections. Too bad I guess, even though I see it as more than fair, because, us crazy Americans have more internet bandwidth than the rest of the world combined and doubled. So have fun flossing your cell phones Europe, because I'm sure having fun here at my oc3 connected job picking my nose and looking at porn.
wow, that sorta sucks that you completely misunderstand jesus. It'd be kinda cool if you realized that jesus came here to tell us to get along. Its sad that there are so many people in this world that completely misunderstand god and his intentions. They memorize biblical stories yet draw the wrong conclusions from them. I don't care if everyone in the world is a christian. When did it become my right to impose my will and my beliefs on others? If jesus were alive today, he'd laugh at how much everyone just doesn't get it. By the way, were you home schooled?
Does anyone else find it bizarre, that no matter how illegal mp3 piracy is, we see major companies making mp3 players to everyones delight. I mean, obviously there's alot of free mp3 music out there, but I really don't think the hype could sustain itself unless people had pirated things. Anyway, I just find it comical in a sense that another major player has decided to enter this market of selling "paraphanilia" [sic]. I guess it would be akin to Corningwear selling bongs, or Sony selling pirate radio kits.
well, maybe the guy with the gun skips your neighborhood. Nevertheless, it'd just be nice if we weren't in the mindframe that media should cost money. thanks for picking out one word of my statement and arguing with it, but you missed the rest of the idea.
The saddest part about the whole piracy debacle is that it is simply too late to really do away with some of the companies that sustain themselves by selling intelectual property. Its kinda sad that that copyright law didn't evolve with the times. But now we have to pay hundreds of dollars for some pieces of plastic that do crazy shit when you shine lasers at them. Hrmph
Your logic is severely flawed, in fact you have no logical sense at all. What the hell does slashdot have to do with the GPL?
So what is American exactly?
linux sure as hell isn't
Linux kernel = Finland
BSD kernel = Berkeley
What makes things like netbsd good is not the distribution, the distribution isn't important. BSD inherently has a better kernel. Long live America. (and the Regents of the University of California)
So true, and likewise, much of what goes into Linux isn't GNU either, it's bits and pieces of BSD that no one could create themselves. So whenever you look at your docs and see "(c) The regents of the university of california" remember, we were here first
honestly, I'm going to give this product a maximum shelf life of maybe 2 years. It might seem like impressive technology now but there are some definite dated ideas about this technology:
1. its mechanical. mechanical things break (when was the last time you wore out your ram?)
2. how long will it take to create a cd? even with significant advances in cd burning speed, they might be able to squeeze out 5 minutes for a full cd (which is still incredibly optimistic). well, 5 minutes is way too long for normal people (people who never BBSed for any length of time at least) to tolorate.
3. people can deal with cables, usb or otherwise. it used to be commonly accepted that if something wasn't on floppy disk or cd, it wouldn't gain broad market appeal, not at all true now. We;ve seen things like mp3 players and video cameras having solid links and easily selling well.
proposed solution: throw a lot more ram in it and just hook it up. CDs only waste time and money. late