Honestly, there really isn't all that much in-shoring going on, from what I've seen. Sure, you've got call centers and a couple other things, but IT as a whole does not seem to have gotten much in-shoring - particularly jobs relating to programming. As someone in the Dakotas, this is what I've observed
Sorry to learn about your personal ignorance. The truth is: there are many IT departents, in the US, that are about 100% foreign visa workers. FACT: less than 25% of IBM employees were born in the USA. Development is most certainly going offshore.
No offence, but the Dakotas, are not exactly a tech hot-spot.
Only fair to mention, when Indians were losing their jobs to Chinese workers, the Indians were rioting in the streets. But the same Indians feel fully entitled to take US jobs.
So westerners are all technological dunces, and all the "best and brightest" tech minds come from India, right? I mean, that is what the lobbyists want us to believe, right?
Let's examine the evidence, shall we?
Of the following iconic tech companies, how many come from India? Apple, Cisco, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Yahoo, Google, eBay, Amazon, Facebook, Intel, Dell, HP, and I could go on. Other than staffing companies, what great tech companies were formed in India?
Care to count the number of Nobel prizes that have come from the USA, as opposed to India? As I understand it, there are high schools in the USA that have produced more Nobel prize winners than the entire nation of India. Certainly there are several US colleges that have produced more Nobel prize winners than the entire nation of India.
How many ground breaking tech breakthroughs have come from India in the last 200 years? Computers? Radio? TV? Radar? Nuclear power? Heavier than air flight? Light bulbs? Movies? Phonograph? Anything?
So where is the evidence that Indians are all the "best and brightest" and Americans are all stupid? Do you realise about 50% of Indians are illiterate, and that India has the worst slums in the world? And yet we need Indians because they are great tech geniuses and entrepreneurs.
The overwhelming number of H1Bs, are ordinary people, doing ordinary jobs. Jobs that could, and should, be done by US workers. By "overwhelming" I would estimate well over 99%.
We already have the O-1 visa for truly exceptional. The O-1 visa has no limits. So why do we need the H1B for these so-called geniuses?
As I understand it, Zoho insists on developers not having degrees. IBM has also stating that, very often, they see no need for developers to have degrees.
H1Bs all have degrees, so a degree is hardly a competitive advantage.
1) McDonalds is not the only choice for those without a college education - far from it.
2) A huge, and growing, percentage of college graduates are working at jobs that do not require a college degrees. A college degree is no guarantee of a worthwhile career - far from it.
3) Costco is paying $19 an hour. That is way more than a lot of college graduates earn, even if they do have a job that requires a college education.
4) People who are highly skilled in trades such as welding, plumbing, heavy equipment, and so on, very often have jobs that are secure and well paid. In California, over 15 years ago, Golden Gate bus drivers were earning $80K a year. Letter carriers also earn very high salaries, and have very secure careers.
5) Except for health care, and maybe a few other career fields; a foreign degree is just as good as a US degree. So I hope you enjoy training your H-1B replacement, or having your job offshored. Yeah, that degree was sure worth it.
Problem is: when I look at your python code, I don't know if I'm looking at spaces, or tabs, or some combination of both. Not without a hex dump, or something. And one invisible character out of place, and god-only-knows what sort of unexpected results I get.
Also, I probably can not cut-and-paste your code into mine, and have it work, without substantial modification.
Then there is the serious issue of emailing code, or cutting-and-pasting from a web-site.
Too bad that practically everybody on slashdot thinks of BASIC as GW-BASIC. Most versions of BASIC, that are less than 30 years old, actually have it right - no curly brackets, no counting spaces and tabs either.
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Considering the source, I think it's fair to assume that this news has an anti-military slant.
Also, could this be considered "counter propaganda?" A lot of people get a lot of misinformation about the USA, often from official sources. There is no way for the US to defend itself in the government controlled media of those countries.
I like this sort of action a lot better than dropping bombs, or rolling tanks.
Apple didn't have allow clone manufacturers and actively worked to stop them. That is why IBM and MS deserve credit for the PC.
IBM did not "allow" clones either, neither did MS. I seem to remember MS actively working to stop DR-DOS - even to the point of breaking the law to do so.
To be fair, Forbes did not compile the list. I think the so-called "think tank" is more to blame.
As I posted on the site: Ethisphere Institute is one of those so-called "think-tanks" that makes up reports to "prove" anything it's sponsors want "proven." Microsoft makes sizable donation to many such "think-tanks" and all of those "think-tanks" are Microsoft friendly - what a surprise. Just one of the many super ethical things that MS does for us.
Tea Party senator presses for 'vigorous' oversight of Google By Jordan Fabian - 03/11/11 03:12 PM ET
Utah Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) wants a congressional hearing to examine whether Google has run afoul of antitrust laws.
In a letter to Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), the chairman of a Senate antitrust panel, Lee said that Google's dominance of the Internet search arena prompts the "need for vigorous antitrust oversight and enforcement in this area."
So google is an abusive monopolist, and microsoft isn't? How could that be? Oh wait . ..
In his election campaign, the freshman Utah Republican took $5,000 each from executives of Microsoft and AT&T, two of Google’s biggest competitors; executives at 1-800 CONTACTS gave Lee $7,500 in donations last year.
My father used to be a cop. According to him, it's nothing like "Lethal Weapon." The average cop does not shoot, and kill, about 40 people on a slow day. Actually, if a cop so much as draws his/her gun, they'll be filling out forms for the next two weeks.
Yes there are bozos out there who push their illogical political. views. There always have been. And some people want to deny science and/or critical thinking, to push a political agenda.
But I do not see where this is impacting actual scientific research.
This article is a liberal democrat biased "news" source, trying to smear the republicans. I am not repub myself, and I am not trying to defend the repubs. But, to say this article is shallow, and biased, would be understatements.
I am okay with people criticising products that have actually been given a fair chance. But honeycomb is not even out. Of course earlier versions of android will have more apps - what an unbelievable stupid observation.
The web is flooded with critics trashing products that have not even been released, and products that these critics have never even used.
Why do I suspect that some of this is a smear campaign from the competition?
During the last bubble, 3 digit, and even 4 digit, P/Es were not all that unusual. Most of those companies listed in the parent post, have P/Es around 20. If this is a bubble, it's certainly nothing like the last bubble.
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How many of those guys came to the US on an H1B visa?
Honestly, there really isn't all that much in-shoring going on, from what I've seen. Sure, you've got call centers and a couple other things, but IT as a whole does not seem to have gotten much in-shoring - particularly jobs relating to programming. As someone in the Dakotas, this is what I've observed
Sorry to learn about your personal ignorance. The truth is: there are many IT departents, in the US, that are about 100% foreign visa workers. FACT: less than 25% of IBM employees were born in the USA. Development is most certainly going offshore.
No offence, but the Dakotas, are not exactly a tech hot-spot.
Only fair to mention, when Indians were losing their jobs to Chinese workers, the Indians were rioting in the streets. But the same Indians feel fully entitled to take US jobs.
In any discussion about H1Bs, somebody posts a comment like this. I am very sceptical that there is any truth to these article.
Okay, let's see the actual ad, post a link please. If there is no ad, then why not? Even if the ad was taken down, it should be cached.
Does your ad include a salary range? If not, why not? How do we know that you are actually offering the salary that you claim?
So westerners are all technological dunces, and all the "best and brightest" tech minds come from India, right? I mean, that is what the lobbyists want us to believe, right?
Let's examine the evidence, shall we?
Of the following iconic tech companies, how many come from India? Apple, Cisco, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Yahoo, Google, eBay, Amazon, Facebook, Intel, Dell, HP, and I could go on. Other than staffing companies, what great tech companies were formed in India?
Care to count the number of Nobel prizes that have come from the USA, as opposed to India? As I understand it, there are high schools in the USA that have produced more Nobel prize winners than the entire nation of India. Certainly there are several US colleges that have produced more Nobel prize winners than the entire nation of India.
How many ground breaking tech breakthroughs have come from India in the last 200 years? Computers? Radio? TV? Radar? Nuclear power? Heavier than air flight? Light bulbs? Movies? Phonograph? Anything?
So where is the evidence that Indians are all the "best and brightest" and Americans are all stupid? Do you realise about 50% of Indians are illiterate, and that India has the worst slums in the world? And yet we need Indians because they are great tech geniuses and entrepreneurs.
The overwhelming number of H1Bs, are ordinary people, doing ordinary jobs. Jobs that could, and should, be done by US workers. By "overwhelming" I would estimate well over 99%.
We already have the O-1 visa for truly exceptional. The O-1 visa has no limits. So why do we need the H1B for these so-called geniuses?
As I understand it, Zoho insists on developers not having degrees. IBM has also stating that, very often, they see no need for developers to have degrees.
H1Bs all have degrees, so a degree is hardly a competitive advantage.
1) McDonalds is not the only choice for those without a college education - far from it.
2) A huge, and growing, percentage of college graduates are working at jobs that do not require a college degrees. A college degree is no guarantee of a worthwhile career - far from it.
3) Costco is paying $19 an hour. That is way more than a lot of college graduates earn, even if they do have a job that requires a college education.
4) People who are highly skilled in trades such as welding, plumbing, heavy equipment, and so on, very often have jobs that are secure and well paid. In California, over 15 years ago, Golden Gate bus drivers were earning $80K a year. Letter carriers also earn very high salaries, and have very secure careers.
5) Except for health care, and maybe a few other career fields; a foreign degree is just as good as a US degree. So I hope you enjoy training your H-1B replacement, or having your job offshored. Yeah, that degree was sure worth it.
Problem is: when I look at your python code, I don't know if I'm looking at spaces, or tabs, or some combination of both. Not without a hex dump, or something. And one invisible character out of place, and god-only-knows what sort of unexpected results I get.
Also, I probably can not cut-and-paste your code into mine, and have it work, without substantial modification.
Then there is the serious issue of emailing code, or cutting-and-pasting from a web-site.
Too bad that practically everybody on slashdot thinks of BASIC as GW-BASIC. Most versions of BASIC, that are less than 30 years old, actually have it right - no curly brackets, no counting spaces and tabs either.
Now get of my damn lawn
No, you get off my lawn. I still prefer straight-up C. I think the whole object oriented thing works better in theory, than in practice.
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1. RFE/RL provides objective news, analysis, and discussion of domestic and regional issues crucial to successful democratic and free-market transformations.
2. RFE/RL strengthens civil societies by projecting democratic values.
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$200 million is dirt cheap. If this can prevent, even a very small amount of US military action, it's way more than worth it.
Considering the source, I think it's fair to assume that this news has an anti-military slant.
Also, could this be considered "counter propaganda?" A lot of people get a lot of misinformation about the USA, often from official sources. There is no way for the US to defend itself in the government controlled media of those countries.
I like this sort of action a lot better than dropping bombs, or rolling tanks.
Apple didn't have allow clone manufacturers and actively worked to stop them. That is why IBM and MS deserve credit for the PC.
IBM did not "allow" clones either, neither did MS. I seem to remember MS actively working to stop DR-DOS - even to the point of breaking the law to do so.
To be fair, Forbes did not compile the list. I think the so-called "think tank" is more to blame.
As I posted on the site: Ethisphere Institute is one of those so-called "think-tanks" that makes up reports to "prove" anything it's sponsors want "proven." Microsoft makes sizable donation to many such "think-tanks" and all of those "think-tanks" are Microsoft friendly - what a surprise. Just one of the many super ethical things that MS does for us.
To be fair, sometimes political contributions are not extortion. Usually it's bribery.
Tea Party senator presses for 'vigorous' oversight of Google
By Jordan Fabian - 03/11/11 03:12 PM ET
Utah Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) wants a congressional hearing to examine whether Google has run afoul of antitrust laws.
In a letter to Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wis.), the chairman of a Senate antitrust panel, Lee said that Google's dominance of the Internet search arena prompts the "need for vigorous antitrust oversight and enforcement in this area."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/149039-tea-party-senator-wants-google-oversight-hearings
So google is an abusive monopolist, and microsoft isn't? How could that be? Oh wait . . .
In his election campaign, the freshman Utah Republican took $5,000 each from executives of Microsoft and AT&T, two of Google’s biggest competitors; executives at 1-800 CONTACTS gave Lee $7,500 in donations last year.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/51414450-76/1-800-anti-company-contacts.html.csp
My father used to be a cop. According to him, it's nothing like "Lethal Weapon." The average cop does not shoot, and kill, about 40 people on a slow day. Actually, if a cop so much as draws his/her gun, they'll be filling out forms for the next two weeks.
That's too bad, I thought the original wargames was one the best computer movies ever.
Yes there are bozos out there who push their illogical political. views. There always have been. And some people want to deny science and/or critical thinking, to push a political agenda.
But I do not see where this is impacting actual scientific research.
This article is a liberal democrat biased "news" source, trying to smear the republicans. I am not repub myself, and I am not trying to defend the repubs. But, to say this article is shallow, and biased, would be understatements.
I don't see any home icon. I see a reload page, a stop, and back and forth arrows. No little house icon, or anything else like that.
Forgot to include this:
CNET Shows Anti-Google AstroTurf (‘Consumer’ ‘Watchdog’) is Connected to Edelman, “Microsoft Goes on the Offensive” Against Google
Political Games Against Google
I am okay with people criticising products that have actually been given a fair chance. But honeycomb is not even out. Of course earlier versions of android will have more apps - what an unbelievable stupid observation.
The web is flooded with critics trashing products that have not even been released, and products that these critics have never even used.
Why do I suspect that some of this is a smear campaign from the competition?
During the last bubble, 3 digit, and even 4 digit, P/Es were not all that unusual. Most of those companies listed in the parent post, have P/Es around 20. If this is a bubble, it's certainly nothing like the last bubble.