You're the only person I've ever heard refer to the different types of TV display technologies available as a "format war". There's no war going on there. Each tech has its place and its pricepoint. It's called "choice".
Oh...wait...you were just trying to pad your list to make your post seem relevant. My mistake.
I know you're making a joke and I agree that it is funny. But, as a father of a daughter who is quickly getting old enough to be introduced to the web this new plan has a certain level of appeal to me. If I could let her get on the Net via AOL without having to pay for a monthly subscription I'd do it. Having the parental controls, age verification, etc.. that the AOL client provides without having to cobble it all together, maintain, and police it myself would be a huge benefit to me.
"Dear Slashdot readers, we made big bags of cash on all of the ad impressions generated from the 800 posts in the WGA article we ran yesterday. Today we're going to re-post some of those posts in the hope that it will work you all into a frenzy again so we can get another 800 posts worth of money out of you. Thank you for your support."
Well, duh, giving feeback is different than "Go redo our ad for us!" Any simpleton can come to that logical conclusion. The feedback is this, "The ad is poorly conceived, ugly, and doesn't convey any useful information. That's what I've been saying all along.
The designers don't want feedback. They want someone to step in and solve their problems for them. If they can't promote OO.o then maybe they shouldn't be doing it. They're going to do more harm then good.
Ugly ad + call for money + low subscription newspaper as a target = nothing more than these people trying to glory-hound in front of the community. They're clearly not equipped to handle this so they shouldn't. But since it's FOSS no one can stop them.
That is all such BS. I have never been, am not currently, and probably never will be interested in spending my time working on a FOSS project in any capacity. I'm a professional who knows to reevaluate my tools and change them if a better way of doing things appears.
That ad has done nothing to convince me that OO.o is a better alternative. Telling me, "It's Freedom, man" is worthless. The people that live by that creedo are already using OO.o. Hauling out a picture of some dead money-models and putting words in their mouth is just insulting. Not telling me why OO.o is better than Office is just plain stupid. I know office, I've used Office for years. Why would I, as a professional, through away all of that instituional knowledge just to save a few hundred dollars by installing this program that I know nothing about?
The ad is a failure. Don't cover that up by trying to saddle me with some utopian Hobson's choice like, "are you going to sit back and complain or do something?". The responsibility is that of the grassroots campaign, not of the people it is trying to reach. If you haven't noticed, I am doing something. I'm telling you you're not resonating with the group of people that you need to be focusing on. Beyond that I won't lift a finger to help you. This isn't some fraternity. It's business. You haven't shown me you can help my business so I will either continue to use the tools I already own or I will look for other solutions.
Why? Why should I make a mockup for you? I'm your *customer*. If I am turned off by your ad because I don't like it the failure isn't mine for not fixing it for you. The failure is yours for not understanding your target audience well enough. This is exactly what is wrong with the ad - it assumes everyone is against capitalism and therefore anything that says "FREEDOM" must be good.
It's an office suite, if I don't like the ad promoting it because of the neo-hippy bullshit it's spouting or the fact that there is nothing in the ad to actually educate me about the merits of the product then I won't bother with it. The last thing I feel is a compulsion to donate my time and skills gratis to fix a failure of an ad. Frankly, if that ad is any indication of the agenda of the grassroots group I don't want anything to do with them.
You're not alone. The layout is simplistic, the font choices are basic, the colors are attrocious and thhe picture has nothing to do the product. The ad copy is fully hippy-esque "stick it to the man" angst to the detriment of any meaningful copy that actually describes the product and its strengths.
Based only on that ad I'd assume that OpenOffice some bush-league office suite that I'd find in the schlocky productivity aisle in the software section of BestBuy or Wal*Mart, alongside the "AdSubtract" and "InternetWasher" crap.
>> I remember when Electronic Arts was EOA and stood for Electronic Arts
>> We're saying the same thing here
>> Back when the logo looked like EOA
No we're not saying the same thing. You're changing your statements. There's a difference.
Electronic Arts was never EOA. Why would they abbreviate their name "ElectrOnic Arts"? The EOA thing was a total misconception based on the fact that the early EA logo was a cube, a sphere, and a cone.
What you should've learned was how to properly bid your job and interview bidders to fully understand their competency level and understanding of the technical aspects of the contract work.
Will people please for fuck's sake stop trying to say that June 6th, 2006 was 6/6/6. By your CNN, Fox and Friends, Entertainment Tonight, and Today Show encouraged thinking June 6, 1996, was actually 6/6/-4. There was nothing at all special about this past Tuesday. Are you all going to jump up and down like slobbering idiots and claim the same think every damn decade?
Please start to think for yourselves and realize that you've all fallen victim to a horrendous viral marketing campaign for a craptastic remake of "The Omen".
Are you a game developer? I'm guessing not if you think a company can go from "gamedesign" (sic) to final product, on new, non-existent hardware, in five months. That would have to include a month (minimum) for certification and another month for pressing, packaging, and distribution. Three months to create a game? Hardly.
This isn't "judgin (sic) a dev kit". This is reading the specs for a processor that will be used in the console. With a projected street date of a little over five months away there's not enough time for Sony to keep taping out new prototype Cells. They have to get near-to-final dev kits in developers' hands asap.
You've been able to do all of those PDF editing functions for years with the tools from FoxIt. They're cheaper than Adobe's tools and offer the same functionality.
Are you trying to imply that Microsoft developed such a strategy? Exclusive 3rd party development payments pre-date the XBox by at least 1 or 2 generations of consoles. Don't delude yourself into thinking that Sony hasn't been putting out big bags of cash to keep exclusives on the PS2. They had to in order to shore up it's dominance early on, as it isn't nearly as technologically advanced, or easy to program for, as they'd like you to believe.
Game developers will code to DX9 for the forseeable future and possibly include a DX10 rendering path for power users. While DX10 won't be on XP Vista will run DX9 titles.
Guildwars isn't a traditional MMO in that it doesn't have a monthly charge. It's a one-time purchase with online play. Charting GuildWars would be like charting Diablo, Freelancer, Battlefield 2, or any other online enabled game with some sort of player stat tracking.
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Oh...wait...you were just trying to pad your list to make your post seem relevant. My mistake.
I know you're making a joke and I agree that it is funny. But, as a father of a daughter who is quickly getting old enough to be introduced to the web this new plan has a certain level of appeal to me. If I could let her get on the Net via AOL without having to pay for a monthly subscription I'd do it. Having the parental controls, age verification, etc.. that the AOL client provides without having to cobble it all together, maintain, and police it myself would be a huge benefit to me.
It does make your signature phrase ironically apropos, though. ;)
Indeed.
I was making a joke, Mr. Dumas.
"Dear Slashdot readers, we made big bags of cash on all of the ad impressions generated from the 800 posts in the WGA article we ran yesterday. Today we're going to re-post some of those posts in the hope that it will work you all into a frenzy again so we can get another 800 posts worth of money out of you. Thank you for your support."
The designers don't want feedback. They want someone to step in and solve their problems for them. If they can't promote OO.o then maybe they shouldn't be doing it. They're going to do more harm then good.
Ugly ad + call for money + low subscription newspaper as a target = nothing more than these people trying to glory-hound in front of the community. They're clearly not equipped to handle this so they shouldn't. But since it's FOSS no one can stop them.
Ruminate on those two statements for a while.
That ad has done nothing to convince me that OO.o is a better alternative. Telling me, "It's Freedom, man" is worthless. The people that live by that creedo are already using OO.o. Hauling out a picture of some dead money-models and putting words in their mouth is just insulting. Not telling me why OO.o is better than Office is just plain stupid. I know office, I've used Office for years. Why would I, as a professional, through away all of that instituional knowledge just to save a few hundred dollars by installing this program that I know nothing about?
The ad is a failure. Don't cover that up by trying to saddle me with some utopian Hobson's choice like, "are you going to sit back and complain or do something?". The responsibility is that of the grassroots campaign, not of the people it is trying to reach. If you haven't noticed, I am doing something. I'm telling you you're not resonating with the group of people that you need to be focusing on. Beyond that I won't lift a finger to help you. This isn't some fraternity. It's business. You haven't shown me you can help my business so I will either continue to use the tools I already own or I will look for other solutions.
It's an office suite, if I don't like the ad promoting it because of the neo-hippy bullshit it's spouting or the fact that there is nothing in the ad to actually educate me about the merits of the product then I won't bother with it. The last thing I feel is a compulsion to donate my time and skills gratis to fix a failure of an ad. Frankly, if that ad is any indication of the agenda of the grassroots group I don't want anything to do with them.
Based only on that ad I'd assume that OpenOffice some bush-league office suite that I'd find in the schlocky productivity aisle in the software section of BestBuy or Wal*Mart, alongside the "AdSubtract" and "InternetWasher" crap.
Try 1985. Those things are at least two decades out from being "trendy".
>> I remember when Electronic Arts was EOA and stood for Electronic Arts >> We're saying the same thing here >> Back when the logo looked like EOA No we're not saying the same thing. You're changing your statements. There's a difference.
Electronic Arts was never EOA. Why would they abbreviate their name "ElectrOnic Arts"? The EOA thing was a total misconception based on the fact that the early EA logo was a cube, a sphere, and a cone.
What you should've learned was how to properly bid your job and interview bidders to fully understand their competency level and understanding of the technical aspects of the contract work.
Please start to think for yourselves and realize that you've all fallen victim to a horrendous viral marketing campaign for a craptastic remake of "The Omen".
Breakout....Super Breakout....Photoshop....
Are you a game developer? I'm guessing not if you think a company can go from "gamedesign" (sic) to final product, on new, non-existent hardware, in five months. That would have to include a month (minimum) for certification and another month for pressing, packaging, and distribution. Three months to create a game? Hardly.
This isn't "judgin (sic) a dev kit". This is reading the specs for a processor that will be used in the console. With a projected street date of a little over five months away there's not enough time for Sony to keep taping out new prototype Cells. They have to get near-to-final dev kits in developers' hands asap.
Our you could get PDFCreator from Sourceforge and print to PDF from any Windows application.
You've been able to do all of those PDF editing functions for years with the tools from FoxIt. They're cheaper than Adobe's tools and offer the same functionality.
Are you trying to imply that Microsoft developed such a strategy? Exclusive 3rd party development payments pre-date the XBox by at least 1 or 2 generations of consoles. Don't delude yourself into thinking that Sony hasn't been putting out big bags of cash to keep exclusives on the PS2. They had to in order to shore up it's dominance early on, as it isn't nearly as technologically advanced, or easy to program for, as they'd like you to believe.
Why not just get PDFCreator from Sourceforge. It installs as a printer driver under Windows. Very handy to have.
Game developers will code to DX9 for the forseeable future and possibly include a DX10 rendering path for power users. While DX10 won't be on XP Vista will run DX9 titles.
Guildwars isn't a traditional MMO in that it doesn't have a monthly charge. It's a one-time purchase with online play. Charting GuildWars would be like charting Diablo, Freelancer, Battlefield 2, or any other online enabled game with some sort of player stat tracking.