Well, I assume it works for you.
But it doesn't work for everyone.
And it still provides a vendor-lockin for Microsoft, and a problem for other software makers. The input filters for word files have to be canged again to be able to read them.
I don't think I missed the point.
You said you can set it to disable features not available in Word 97.
The way I read that is that it doesn't even "save as" Word 97, but even "edit as" Word 97.
So how can you still call it a Word 2000 file and call it interoperable.
The way Wordperfect did this was not to to have some sort of global default of disabling features.
In WordPerfect 2000 you can just use all the features. Only when you read it in WordPerfect 6, 7 or 8 those features are disabled, simply because that version of WordPerfect can't read those specific features.
I'm not really sure though, but I would expect that you can save that file again in WordPerfect 6, 7, or 8 and just get the 2000 version features used in the document show up again.
So you explicity tell it to save it as a Word 97 file. Well, then it does what it says it does, you can open it in Word 97 because it's a Word 97 file then.
Try saving it as a Word 2000 file, and then open it in Word 97.
Can it still read it?
Is it still interoperable?
But I cannot completely agree.
A TV-set is not a computer. A computer is a much more complex piece of machinery.
There is absolutely no reason to know how a tv works. It has to do one thing, and that's to show tv programs on a screen.
A computer can do the same, with a tv-card and a monitor. But you can also use a computer for writing mails, recording/editing video, phone/fax, scanning/printing, whatever.
Sure, you can use a computer for a few simple tasks, like just wordprocessing, mailing and browsing the web. But for that you can just as well use linux, windows or macos.
Linux is not perfect. The first priority was stability, the second priority is gui (imo in this context). Some people say it's ready, but it's not quite there yet.
Windows is not perfect either. The first priority was gui, the second priority is stability. Some people say it's stable, but it's not quite there yet.
Just a sidenote:
When your tv is broken, the repairman might even tell you to just buy a new one, because it's cheaper then the repair.
What would you say when your computer had a major crash and the repairman told you to just buy a new one?
This wouldn't make sense to me.
What happened is more that the applications he wants, like Postilion are not much being used and developed, and are suffering from bitrot.
You could even say that the attention the gnome and kde desktops get diminish the attention for others.
So what's happening is that choice is disappearing.
Maybe that's just because of GNUstep that is slowly developing. I don't know that.
But I do hope GNUstep becomes/stays a choice.
Well, that's because you use Slackware.
I have nothing against it, I even have no experience with it.
But it's well known that it's the more do-it-yourself distro is.
Then telling you don have the ambition to do-it-yourself sounds to me like you chose the wrong distro.
Maybe a better option for you is to insert a Mandrake cd into your cdrom, turn on your printer and print a testpage from Mandrake's installer.
It just works.
I never used the preempt patch, because I'm on a smp system, and it would make it rather unstable.
But from what I hear, it helps with latency problems, but has a decrease on throughput.
So I'm wondering, just increasing the latency does do exactly the same, doesn't it?
I mean, I increased the latency on the pci bus, and my mp3's are almost never skipping anymore. Which is the same claim made by lovers of the preempt patch.
I never use video stuff though, so I can't comment on that.
For changing the latency, you can find a good read here: Latency
I hate to say so, but the linux kernel had security problems too.
The syncookies bug a few months ago is a kernel bug.
Also the ip_conntrack_ftp bug in 2.4.3 and older is a kernel bug.
Some kids are not real autists.
Their parents just can't handle them, they can't invest in them with love and care.
These kids are left out in the cold, and they act like autists.
A good doctor should also look at the social structure of a family. If it seems that the social structure is lacking a lot, then the kids should not be labeled al autist right away.
Some doctors don't look at the social structure, nd label a kid as autist, while in fact the kid is not an autist.
I'm sure most labeled autists are real autists though.
Now off to read the article:)
Maybe that counts for ADHD, because that is mostly a social problem.
I didn't read the article yet, but afaik it's still widely accepted that real autism does not come from social structures, or is learned in any way.
Sometime in the sixties and seventies it was claimed that autism was caused by hartless parents. This simply isn't true, and did hurt lots of loving and caring parents.
Real autism is biological, and is caused by a different way if coping with the world around you, and within you.
Simply said, an autist can only handle one impression at the time.
Emotions are more complex than that one thing they can handle. So emotions are more than they can handle.
So when you are starting to communicate with an autist, and emotions are coming into the playground, the kid turns away.
Afaik there are 2 tulip drivers, tulip.o and de4x5.o. I believe tulip.o is the old driver.
This would mean that your old tulip cards are only supported with tulip.o, and not anymore by de4x5.o.
Or I'm wrong, and the reference to "old driver" is a reference to Donald Becker's tulip.o driver, which isn't included in 2.4 or 2.5. I believe that came with the 2.2 kernel and only supports 2.4 since recently.
There are lots of different tulip cards. On 2.2.17 and earlier linksys cards had lots of troubles with the kernel drivers, and always came with their own drivers. For newbies that sucks.
I think it's a good thing to seperate some of the drivers.
It's just a difference in building rpms/debs and slackware.
When you package binaries, there are dependencies which are made by the packager's system.
If you compile it yourself it will only get linked to your libraries and headers.
With rpm you can set a BuildRequires, so the src.rpm can tell you what it needs to build. And you can set a Requires, which you can use to setup dependencies not found by ldd.
I can only agree with it.
Part of the problem is that most "guru's" know how to use a commandline, but not how to use a GUI.
When I install software, I use the commandline, not Kpackage, Gnorpm or Rpmdrake.
So when someone asks me how to use such a program, he mostly knows more about it then I do, I just know more about the underlying architecture.
Though I do think the users are coming along.
Recently I heard about people who were using Linux, because they liked Tux, and were collecting pictures of him. Sure.
You're mixing up cost and price.
Cost means the cost for Microsoft to build such a thing.
Price means the price you pay to get one.
Anything inbetween is what Microsoft loses or wins.
If everyone starts buying Xboxes, the cost will go down. The cost of something is made of fixed costs and variable costs (dunno the english naming scheme for them).
Microsoft will expect to lose money on a certain number of sold machines. Any machine morethen that will make profit.
It does make a difference if you make and sell 1 million machines or 2 million machines. The fixed costs only come once, only the variable costs count for each machine.
That's quite interesting.
But the main question is, can it be abused?
I'd expect the senders of spam to be wanting this project to be rendered useless, by submitting garbage to the database.
In return, I guess it is possible to have some sort of moderating system on the submitters of the data, which can filter out most of the abusers.
I'm sure there isn't a Todo list. And I assume there never will be one.
I was just wondering (read karma-whoring) what the first big change in 2.5.0 will be.
I guess cml2, the new config/make system.
Some other changes that might be expected;
Jfs and Xfs in the main kernel,
Fixing the latency, and maybe make the kernel pre-emptive.
There will be a scsi layer rewrite and maybe a ide layer rewrite (that's correct?),
How is Objprelink doing?
I heard building with objprelink enabled can cause khtml and kjs to crash more often. So it trades speed for stability.
Is it still the case?
Well, if he thinks the windows installs are clean, then let him just install 1000 programs, and deinstall them.
Then check how much space you used before and after, and just start to panic.
Some Windows applications have become lax at this and started installing into the "windows" directory.
And I thought all Windows programs did this.
In a way I like to have all my programs in some/bin dir (/bin,/usr/bin, etc).
And if I want to know what program a certain file belongs to, I just do a rpm -qf file.
He's a bit ranting about RedHat, but I assume he means more Unixes than RedHat alone though.
What about objprelink?
I've heard that on kde 2.2, the khtml and kjs (javascript) can be buggy when compiled with objprelink. They tend to crash more often.
How is that on kde 3.0 (2.90)?
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Well, I assume it works for you.
But it doesn't work for everyone.
And it still provides a vendor-lockin for Microsoft, and a problem for other software makers. The input filters for word files have to be canged again to be able to read them.
I don't think I missed the point.
You said you can set it to disable features not available in Word 97.
The way I read that is that it doesn't even "save as" Word 97, but even "edit as" Word 97.
So how can you still call it a Word 2000 file and call it interoperable.
The way Wordperfect did this was not to to have some sort of global default of disabling features.
In WordPerfect 2000 you can just use all the features. Only when you read it in WordPerfect 6, 7 or 8 those features are disabled, simply because that version of WordPerfect can't read those specific features.
I'm not really sure though, but I would expect that you can save that file again in WordPerfect 6, 7, or 8 and just get the 2000 version features used in the document show up again.
So you explicity tell it to save it as a Word 97 file. Well, then it does what it says it does, you can open it in Word 97 because it's a Word 97 file then.
Try saving it as a Word 2000 file, and then open it in Word 97.
Can it still read it?
Is it still interoperable?
I think you've spoken well.
But I cannot completely agree.
A TV-set is not a computer. A computer is a much more complex piece of machinery.
There is absolutely no reason to know how a tv works. It has to do one thing, and that's to show tv programs on a screen.
A computer can do the same, with a tv-card and a monitor. But you can also use a computer for writing mails, recording/editing video, phone/fax, scanning/printing, whatever.
Sure, you can use a computer for a few simple tasks, like just wordprocessing, mailing and browsing the web. But for that you can just as well use linux, windows or macos.
Linux is not perfect. The first priority was stability, the second priority is gui (imo in this context). Some people say it's ready, but it's not quite there yet.
Windows is not perfect either. The first priority was gui, the second priority is stability. Some people say it's stable, but it's not quite there yet.
Just a sidenote:
When your tv is broken, the repairman might even tell you to just buy a new one, because it's cheaper then the repair.
What would you say when your computer had a major crash and the repairman told you to just buy a new one?
This wouldn't make sense to me.
That was not was he meant I assume.
What happened is more that the applications he wants, like Postilion are not much being used and developed, and are suffering from bitrot.
You could even say that the attention the gnome and kde desktops get diminish the attention for others.
So what's happening is that choice is disappearing.
Maybe that's just because of GNUstep that is slowly developing. I don't know that.
But I do hope GNUstep becomes/stays a choice.
Well, that's because you use Slackware.
I have nothing against it, I even have no experience with it.
But it's well known that it's the more do-it-yourself distro is.
Then telling you don have the ambition to do-it-yourself sounds to me like you chose the wrong distro.
Maybe a better option for you is to insert a Mandrake cd into your cdrom, turn on your printer and print a testpage from Mandrake's installer.
It just works.
Good question.
I never used the preempt patch, because I'm on a smp system, and it would make it rather unstable.
But from what I hear, it helps with latency problems, but has a decrease on throughput.
So I'm wondering, just increasing the latency does do exactly the same, doesn't it?
I mean, I increased the latency on the pci bus, and my mp3's are almost never skipping anymore. Which is the same claim made by lovers of the preempt patch.
I never use video stuff though, so I can't comment on that.
For changing the latency, you can find a good read here:
Latency
I hate to say so, but the linux kernel had security problems too.
The syncookies bug a few months ago is a kernel bug.
Also the ip_conntrack_ftp bug in 2.4.3 and older is a kernel bug.
Just when posting, I remember something.
:)
You are right, overdiagnosing does happen.
Some kids are not real autists.
Their parents just can't handle them, they can't invest in them with love and care.
These kids are left out in the cold, and they act like autists.
A good doctor should also look at the social structure of a family. If it seems that the social structure is lacking a lot, then the kids should not be labeled al autist right away.
Some doctors don't look at the social structure, nd label a kid as autist, while in fact the kid is not an autist.
I'm sure most labeled autists are real autists though.
Now off to read the article
Maybe that counts for ADHD, because that is mostly a social problem.
I didn't read the article yet, but afaik it's still widely accepted that real autism does not come from social structures, or is learned in any way.
Sometime in the sixties and seventies it was claimed that autism was caused by hartless parents. This simply isn't true, and did hurt lots of loving and caring parents.
Real autism is biological, and is caused by a different way if coping with the world around you, and within you.
Simply said, an autist can only handle one impression at the time.
Emotions are more complex than that one thing they can handle. So emotions are more than they can handle.
So when you are starting to communicate with an autist, and emotions are coming into the playground, the kid turns away.
Afaik there are 2 tulip drivers, tulip.o and de4x5.o. I believe tulip.o is the old driver.
This would mean that your old tulip cards are only supported with tulip.o, and not anymore by de4x5.o.
Or I'm wrong, and the reference to "old driver" is a reference to Donald Becker's tulip.o driver, which isn't included in 2.4 or 2.5. I believe that came with the 2.2 kernel and only supports 2.4 since recently.
There are lots of different tulip cards. On 2.2.17 and earlier linksys cards had lots of troubles with the kernel drivers, and always came with their own drivers. For newbies that sucks.
I think it's a good thing to seperate some of the drivers.
Yup, And it's also done by rpm afaik.
It's just a difference in building rpms/debs and slackware.
When you package binaries, there are dependencies which are made by the packager's system.
If you compile it yourself it will only get linked to your libraries and headers.
With rpm you can set a BuildRequires, so the src.rpm can tell you what it needs to build. And you can set a Requires, which you can use to setup dependencies not found by ldd.
I can only agree with it.
Part of the problem is that most "guru's" know how to use a commandline, but not how to use a GUI.
When I install software, I use the commandline, not Kpackage, Gnorpm or Rpmdrake.
So when someone asks me how to use such a program, he mostly knows more about it then I do, I just know more about the underlying architecture.
Though I do think the users are coming along.
Recently I heard about people who were using Linux, because they liked Tux, and were collecting pictures of him. Sure.
Yes, that's what I'm assuming.
And simply put, if you're right, then I'm wrong.
But saying widely assumed also means noone knows for sure, and noone has looked in Microsofts financial kitchen.
You're mixing up cost and price.
Cost means the cost for Microsoft to build such a thing.
Price means the price you pay to get one.
Anything inbetween is what Microsoft loses or wins.
I'm after a couple of REALLY low-profile video cards to put in a firewall/router.
That's nice for you.
Only problem is you forgot to put your mail adress in the post so we can get rid of our garbage.
But yes, I understand your problem, just when you need that something low-profile, noone in the neighbourhood seems to have some left-overs.
That does sound to be true.
But it is not.
If everyone starts buying Xboxes, the cost will go down. The cost of something is made of fixed costs and variable costs (dunno the english naming scheme for them).
Microsoft will expect to lose money on a certain number of sold machines. Any machine morethen that will make profit.
It does make a difference if you make and sell 1 million machines or 2 million machines. The fixed costs only come once, only the variable costs count for each machine.
That's quite interesting.
But the main question is, can it be abused?
I'd expect the senders of spam to be wanting this project to be rendered useless, by submitting garbage to the database.
In return, I guess it is possible to have some sort of moderating system on the submitters of the data, which can filter out most of the abusers.
I'm sure there isn't a Todo list. And I assume there never will be one.
I was just wondering (read karma-whoring) what the first big change in 2.5.0 will be.
I guess cml2, the new config/make system.
Some other changes that might be expected;
Jfs and Xfs in the main kernel,
Fixing the latency, and maybe make the kernel pre-emptive.
There will be a scsi layer rewrite and maybe a ide layer rewrite (that's correct?),
You can use an ac kernel.
Alan Cox has updated his dri modules in a way so you can still use XFree 4.0.3.
Yes, that's what I meant :)
I was doubting about it whilt typing it. Guess I did get it wrong then. hmm.
How is Objprelink doing?
I heard building with objprelink enabled can cause khtml and kjs to crash more often. So it trades speed for stability.
Is it still the case?
Well, if he thinks the windows installs are clean, then let him just install 1000 programs, and deinstall them.
/bin dir (/bin, /usr/bin, etc).
Then check how much space you used before and after, and just start to panic.
Some Windows applications have become lax at this and started installing into the "windows" directory.
And I thought all Windows programs did this.
In a way I like to have all my programs in some
And if I want to know what program a certain file belongs to, I just do a rpm -qf file.
He's a bit ranting about RedHat, but I assume he means more Unixes than RedHat alone though.
What about objprelink?
I've heard that on kde 2.2, the khtml and kjs (javascript) can be buggy when compiled with objprelink. They tend to crash more often.
How is that on kde 3.0 (2.90)?
Yes, you're right.
And I even knew it, but I forgot.