Re:Odd kernel error message [slightly OT]
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i got the same problem when i took the stock 2.2 potato kernel to 2.4.9 - no idea what was causing that.
but a major bork (probbaly on my part) caused me to break pppoe (roaring penguin user space pppoe...)
I couldnt fix the pppoe prob and had to dump back to 2.2 for the time being... or until i figure out what is necessary for 2.4.9 to work w/ rp-pppoe 3.2(?)
I somewhat doubt that the US could do anything that would satisfy you. Maybe the problem isn't with the US, but with you
Yes yes, and I am only critical of others because I need to feel better about myself... Opragh Wlinfry platitudes and shallow psychology aside - do you really believe that drivel? Im mostly insulted because you suggest Im transparent and stupid.. Give me a goddamn break.
converting our country to their brand of radical Islam
So instead America(TM) should convert the rest of the world into Mindless Consumo-Bots(TM)? Should we play party to your economics of exploitation and destruction? Shall we all welcome the American-Way of living even though it is a laughably shallow and environmentally un-supportable?? One man's Mental McNugget is another mans religion, or hubris laced nationalism...
Religion == Dogma == Nationalism == Ignorance. "Man will never be free until the last King** is strangled in the entrails of the last Priest." - Denis Diderot (1713 - 1784)
When the Empire has its toe snubbed by those who it has been assaulting, its members cry out in rage for blood. Would the world have expected any other reaction? Most people know, including Islamic fundementalists, that America is not what it tells Americans it is, you have shown that well in the last two weeks, when your military starts-up, you will simply continue with the astounding hypocrisy your are loathed for.
Listen to the Chomsky-Double-Speak from your "leaders" the reason why these attacks occured according to GWB: "The rest of the world envys America because it is a shinning beacon of freedom and democracy". I almost fell off my chair when i heard that..
**In this case please read "Plutocrat" and think about the American Government... please do the rest of us a favour and clean the cobwebs out of your public discourse, re-excite your democracy and reign in your marauding warmongering leaders.
When you hear NON-Americans speak this way, as almost all of them do - asserting that Americans are egotistical and arrogant - do you not realize that by your disagreeing, you are simply illustrating their point? The planet has serious problems with America and its Foreign Policy (both the official and clandestine maneuvering) but any time this is said, the typically American will begin a chorus of "U!S!A! U!S!A!" incapable of considering their 'Great Nation' needs adjustment - its public hysteria, its Religion disguised as Democracy, its frankly no different than the dementia necessary to fly planes into the WTC.. America is directly responsible for atrocities this great and more.
Get down of the high-horse and start taking at least a little responsibility for the WTC disaster, start addressing the ROOT-ISSUES which led to its occurance.... but that can never happen, because America(TM) is always right.
I'm not going to fire a $2M missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It will be decisive--W
Do you understand that the ignoarance and arrogance in that quote is exactly why the world (me included) can't stand America?
I can excuse the Plutocrats who have been confusing the masses with television and mcblondalds, but intelligent people - who MUST be able to see through the smoke and mirrors of Nationalist Jinjoism have no excuse to remain complacent in the face of USofAmerica starting another war... the world dosnt need it - ever.
Where is this famous Democracy? Are there really NO CLUEFULL people in that whole country? I certainly have heard NO opposition - in any shape or form in any realm.
And at no extra charge: The LOSS OF YOUR FAIR USE RIGHTS*! Thats right you, the Consumer(TM) receive completely free the prospect of violating DMCA if you choose to make backup copies of your own fairly-purchased-product.
*Offer only available in The United States of America(TM)
I pay for DSL, i can run *WHATEVER* i want on it. Saying "tough beans" is a little short sighted.
If, on the other hand, they would like to have me charged me (as in contact the RCMP or %your_local_federal_police%) for cracking i would 'understand'... the rule of law is always the highest order, to simply make endless arrays of rules in contracts - and force people to abide by them (least they go without(be martyrs)) then why have Law? Why have Legislature? Corporate COntracts for all manner of 'things' are creaping into every crack of life. These "contracts" force people to give up their rights in order to exist in a corporate controlled world... think IM nuts? go read some of the EULA discussed on/. this week... NO CONTRACT SHOULD EVER LIMIT FUNDEMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS.
This isnt exactly a 'cut and dry' issue, these contracts basically allow, arbitrary 'for the greater good' decisions to be made by the DSL providers... I know that their TOS probably say "no bandwidth hogging servers" but, when ALL DSL is provided under the same TOS it becomes a method for DSL providers to make decisions about what I may - and may not - run on my box. I pay for bandwidth, allowing them to decided what data i may send and rec oversteps the bounds on my 'RIPE FOR ABUSE' meter.
Think of the Censorship analogy - if they can censor some speech, then they are only an 'arbitrary decision' away from censoring *YOUR* speech. Whats to stop them from saying "you cannot download streaming OGG because there is no publisher-protection-scheme built it, and you may be violating copyright...
again, i may sound a bit unreasonable, or maybe paranoid, OBVIOUSLY I am not saying we want to allow these worms to run, but we must be weary of 'seemingly' reasonable decisions when made by 'powerful' (plutocratic) people.
If you just want to tinker, and ball-busting computing power is unnecessary, you really shouldnt be building a Beowulf cluster. Have a look at the info contained at MOSIX.org they provide kernel patches && apps to build clusters also, but these clusters allow -depending on your configuration (how/who/what of each computer in the cluster) - processes to migrate from 'more idle nodes'.
From what i understand, you could setup your 'head or workstation' machine to let procs dribble off onto other nodes.
have a look - much more usefull to geek exploration than beowulf... even if beowulf gets 'all the/. mentions'
Please, anyone who takes an online poll seriously is loosing his mind.
The mindless law-and-order rednecks who hang around at FreeRepublic.comregularily post comments on their forums encouraging their members to "Freep" the poll (using their lingo). Now, if Slashdot had posted a notice requesting that *we* all 'Slashdotted' that poll - do you think the results may have been different?
Without the usual mention of The Three Greatest Lies (Statistics, Statistics and Statistics), I will mention that ONLINE polls even miss the basics of reasonable methods... like unbiased 'random' samples for instance.
"I will not tolerate those who resort to violence for the political ends?"
As long as this dosnt mean "I will resort to violence against those who resort to violence for political ends?"
Pot this is kettle, Kettle, Pot.
America would be mindfull to think on this for a moment.
Really, I am wholly in agreement... I am surprised so much of America, and its leaders are crying out for blood so openly, as a Canadian, I am terrified... what has America *really* become... after 50 years of 'growth' into the undeniable empire it is today - why is there so much less enlightenment? Will Americans stand up for idealism as it has in the past? Why has that enlightenment been replaced with depravity and blood-lust?
If I had to hazard a guess it would be greed... but what the hell do I know - and frankly, how dare I question America The Great(TM).
they limit the rights of the law-abiding, while the law-breaker could give a fig.
Just for clarity - Americans have no Right to own guns. Not in the 'bill of rights' sense. It says:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
That is, if you are a member of a well regulated militia charged by the authority of your state (an autonomous and democratically elected, member of the Republic which is the United States of America), you may, if you are one of *those* people, keep and bear arms.
Therefore, if you are a citizen, who intends to do something other than participate under the regulations of a militia who's duty it is to defend your state, in order to maintain its (being the *state's*) freedom, you do *NOT* have a right to have arms.
I will not debate the value of the public owning arms to defend itself from lawbreakers, or of citizens defending themselves from the government, but it is certainly not a "American Right".
It may be a good thing - it may not, i also have also debated the real value in keeping arms from Good People - i mean its not *good people* you have to worry about having arms - but as a matter of semantics, it is not really a "Right".
I know the NRA thinks otherwise, but you really only need read your Bill of Rights to understand the issue - it is very clear.
First, Let me make it clear: I abhor violence of all types. I feel state-backed violence is an afront to humanity - ALL violence from the smallest to the most 'justified' in all forms only re-enforces a future of violence...
Screw you for calling me a "Fucking wanker"... do you seriously know what it is even like to go through this now as a US citizen?
The rest of the world has experiencd a great deal of war. WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Cuba, Guatemala, Columbia, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Ethiopia, Yugoslavia, Haiti, East Timor, Laos and many many more states have had domestic armed-conflict with the support/direct involvment of the USofA. There is no modern state without blood on its hands, these acts are terrible under ANY circumstances and should not be tolerated - not in retaliation to this event and not again, ever in future. If you Yanks run off wildly you'll be no better than the morons who justify these actions in any regard. Please see: http://www.humboldt1.com/~016910/ChronologyofTerro r3.html
We're talking about going to war with something that can not been seen ot touched. Exactly - violence begets violence. You cannot fight your way out of this, simply dealing with the reality of the world, its problems, our goals in the shadow of this tradgedy MIGHT be an opportunity for all of us (the whole of humanity) to set the course of this planet right again.
Attacking ANYBODY will only prove that these acts, at some level - from the perspective of the people committing them - are justified... you DO know that to the people who did this, as ill as it was, felt that THEY were also justified.... both the USofAmerica and whoever they might wish to attack would be terribly wrong.
But make no mistake, it may be hard to swallow as an America - AND THIS DOES NOT JUSTIFY OR CONDONE THIS ACT - but American Foreign policy is not blamless or banign... you do reap what you sow... to think otherwise is flately ignorant and nieve.
I think everybody's first reaction will indeed be to annihilate
right. But with reason, with hind-sight(sp?) reasonable measures, with REASON(!) please, do not whip people around you - do not believe that might is right, might-is-right is what leads to this horror.
the rest of the world has been rebuilding from the first 50 years of war in the world - WWI && WWII - do not confuse yourself, this is the same horror that has been felt/lived in the rest of the world.... they have set a course in complete and total opposition to the one set by USA, do you think this is from the wisdom gained from this event??
Try and learn, live, grow - accept fate - but please do not replicate mistakes... do not think that physical retribution will make ANYTHING right again.
FWIW, I'm not a citizen of the U.S. nor do I live there.
Violence induces more violence. Retaliation will only lead to more deaths. If you are a citizen of the U.S. of America, please write your representative right now and ask him to join a plea for peace. Historically the U.S. reaction to this kind of attack is to counter strike. It's highly probably that it's already being planned or even carried on. That will solve nothing. You might get even, but that achieves nothing. The death will not come back and the attack has been already recorded on the books of history. At this point in time, counter attacking is irrational and puts not only the lives of U.S. citizens at risk, but those of lots of people all arround the world, too.
... i agree - relax people, do NOT think that a violent reaction is right - please, DO NOT react like schoolyard children. Reflect, THINK(!) we do not need more voilence - the people you kill in %SOME_FOREIGN_LAND% will also have children and familly.
...fucking hubris - dont get so fucking high and mighty.. this shit is fucked up in the highest order, save your jingoist nationalism for the fucking masses.
Who's dick is biggest - who fucking cares, grow UP! YOUR BEING MANIPULATED - YOU ARE THE MORONIC MASSES!
does anyone know of someplace which is offering access to these printers to paying customers? I would be perfectly happy to email CAD plans to a fabricator if I could get a quick, cheap kit of parts back in the mail.
See the 'z corp' who are running a program for free - as a marketing ploy: send them a *.stl here
this kind of instant 'copies' would destroy our presenet economy. there is a balance between supply, demand and price. what do you do when supply suddenly, perfectly was capable of matching demand....
Strange. Maybe we can get wise and fix the wag-the-dog problem of community vs. economy.
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i got the same problem when i took the stock 2.2 potato kernel to 2.4.9 - no idea what was causing that.
but a major bork (probbaly on my part) caused me to break pppoe (roaring penguin user space pppoe...)
I couldnt fix the pppoe prob and had to dump back to 2.2 for the time being... or until i figure out what is necessary for 2.4.9 to work w/ rp-pppoe 3.2(?)
I somewhat doubt that the US could do anything that would satisfy you. Maybe the problem isn't with the US, but with you
Yes yes, and I am only critical of others because I need to feel better about myself... Opragh Wlinfry platitudes and shallow psychology aside - do you really believe that drivel? Im mostly insulted because you suggest Im transparent and stupid.. Give me a goddamn break.
converting our country to their brand of radical Islam
So instead America(TM) should convert the rest of the world into Mindless Consumo-Bots(TM)? Should we play party to your economics of exploitation and destruction? Shall we all welcome the American-Way of living even though it is a laughably shallow and environmentally un-supportable?? One man's Mental McNugget is another mans religion, or hubris laced nationalism...
Religion == Dogma == Nationalism == Ignorance. "Man will never be free until the last King** is strangled in the entrails of the last Priest." - Denis Diderot (1713 - 1784)
When the Empire has its toe snubbed by those who it has been assaulting, its members cry out in rage for blood. Would the world have expected any other reaction? Most people know, including Islamic fundementalists, that America is not what it tells Americans it is, you have shown that well in the last two weeks, when your military starts-up, you will simply continue with the astounding hypocrisy your are loathed for.
Listen to the Chomsky-Double-Speak from your "leaders" the reason why these attacks occured according to GWB: "The rest of the world envys America because it is a shinning beacon of freedom and democracy". I almost fell off my chair when i heard that..
**In this case please read "Plutocrat" and think about the American Government... please do the rest of us a favour and clean the cobwebs out of your public discourse, re-excite your democracy and reign in your marauding warmongering leaders.
When you hear NON-Americans speak this way, as almost all of them do - asserting that Americans are egotistical and arrogant - do you not realize that by your disagreeing, you are simply illustrating their point? The planet has serious problems with America and its Foreign Policy (both the official and clandestine maneuvering) but any time this is said, the typically American will begin a chorus of "U!S!A! U!S!A!" incapable of considering their 'Great Nation' needs adjustment - its public hysteria, its Religion disguised as Democracy, its frankly no different than the dementia necessary to fly planes into the WTC.. America is directly responsible for atrocities this great and more.
Get down of the high-horse and start taking at least a little responsibility for the WTC disaster, start addressing the ROOT-ISSUES which led to its occurance.... but that can never happen, because America(TM) is always right.
"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government." T. Jefferson
Further; "Men will never be free until the last priest is strangled with the entrails of the last kind." - Denis Diderot (1713 - 1784)
I'm not going to fire a $2M missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It will be decisive--W
.sig makes me fucking sick.
Do you understand that the ignoarance and arrogance in that quote is exactly why the world (me included) can't stand America?
I can excuse the Plutocrats who have been confusing the masses with television and mcblondalds, but intelligent people - who MUST be able to see through the smoke and mirrors of Nationalist Jinjoism have no excuse to remain complacent in the face of USofAmerica starting another war... the world dosnt need it - ever.
Where is this famous Democracy? Are there really NO CLUEFULL people in that whole country? I certainly have heard NO opposition - in any shape or form in any realm.
Your
we are going to try and conquer Afghanistan is an idiot
Anyone who can encourage or justify any kind of Military operation is an idiot.
Violence and War is wrong in all cases; be they State sanctioned or acts from extremists...
DVD release
And at no extra charge: The LOSS OF YOUR FAIR USE RIGHTS*! Thats right you, the Consumer(TM) receive completely free the prospect of violating DMCA if you choose to make backup copies of your own fairly-purchased-product.
*Offer only available in The United States of America(TM)
The New Free Market Definition: Socialize Risk, Privatize Profit.
I pay for DSL, i can run *WHATEVER* i want on it. Saying "tough beans" is a little short sighted.
/. this week... NO CONTRACT SHOULD EVER LIMIT FUNDEMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS.
If, on the other hand, they would like to have me charged me (as in contact the RCMP or %your_local_federal_police%) for cracking i would 'understand'... the rule of law is always the highest order, to simply make endless arrays of rules in contracts - and force people to abide by them (least they go without(be martyrs)) then why have Law? Why have Legislature? Corporate COntracts for all manner of 'things' are creaping into every crack of life. These "contracts" force people to give up their rights in order to exist in a corporate controlled world... think IM nuts? go read some of the EULA discussed on
This isnt exactly a 'cut and dry' issue, these contracts basically allow, arbitrary 'for the greater good' decisions to be made by the DSL providers... I know that their TOS probably say "no bandwidth hogging servers" but, when ALL DSL is provided under the same TOS it becomes a method for DSL providers to make decisions about what I may - and may not - run on my box. I pay for bandwidth, allowing them to decided what data i may send and rec oversteps the bounds on my 'RIPE FOR ABUSE' meter.
Think of the Censorship analogy - if they can censor some speech, then they are only an 'arbitrary decision' away from censoring *YOUR* speech. Whats to stop them from saying "you cannot download streaming OGG because there is no publisher-protection-scheme built it, and you may be violating copyright...
again, i may sound a bit unreasonable, or maybe paranoid, OBVIOUSLY I am not saying we want to allow these worms to run, but we must be weary of 'seemingly' reasonable decisions when made by 'powerful' (plutocratic) people.
Whats the issue?
I suggest we drop the useless withering pr*cks in the Sentate and fill their seats via PR.
According to their dload page the whole bit is also Free as in Freedom.
If you just want to tinker, and ball-busting computing power is unnecessary, you really shouldnt be building a Beowulf cluster.
/. mentions'
Have a look at the info contained at MOSIX.org they provide kernel patches && apps to build clusters also, but these clusters allow -depending on your configuration (how/who/what of each computer in the cluster) - processes to migrate from 'more idle nodes'.
From what i understand, you could setup your 'head or workstation' machine to let procs dribble off onto other nodes.
have a look - much more usefull to geek exploration than beowulf... even if beowulf gets 'all the
Please, anyone who takes an online poll seriously is loosing his mind.
The mindless law-and-order rednecks who hang around at FreeRepublic.com regularily post comments on their forums encouraging their members to "Freep" the poll (using their lingo). Now, if Slashdot had posted a notice requesting that *we* all 'Slashdotted' that poll - do you think the results may have been different?
Without the usual mention of The Three Greatest Lies (Statistics, Statistics and Statistics), I will mention that ONLINE polls even miss the basics of reasonable methods... like unbiased 'random' samples for instance.
Wait a moment here people, moderators: "put down those mod points".
This reply is dripping with sarcasm, insightfull +1... go back and read this again... funny +1...definitely...
can you provide some links on this ballot stuffing story pls...
"I will not tolerate those who resort to violence for the political ends?"
As long as this dosnt mean "I will resort to violence against those who resort to violence for political ends?"
Pot this is kettle, Kettle, Pot.
America would be mindfull to think on this for a moment.
Really, I am wholly in agreement... I am surprised so much of America, and its leaders are crying out for blood so openly, as a Canadian, I am terrified... what has America *really* become... after 50 years of 'growth' into the undeniable empire it is today - why is there so much less enlightenment? Will Americans stand up for idealism as it has in the past? Why has that enlightenment been replaced with depravity and blood-lust?
If I had to hazard a guess it would be greed... but what the hell do I know - and frankly, how dare I question America The Great(TM).
they limit the rights of the law-abiding, while the law-breaker could give a fig.
Just for clarity - Americans have no Right to own guns. Not in the 'bill of rights' sense. It says:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
That is, if you are a member of a well regulated militia charged by the authority of your state (an autonomous and democratically elected, member of the Republic which is the United States of America), you may, if you are one of *those* people, keep and bear arms.
Therefore, if you are a citizen, who intends to do something other than participate under the regulations of a militia who's duty it is to defend your state, in order to maintain its (being the *state's*) freedom, you do *NOT* have a right to have arms.
I will not debate the value of the public owning arms to defend itself from lawbreakers, or of citizens defending themselves from the government, but it is certainly not a "American Right".
It may be a good thing - it may not, i also have also debated the real value in keeping arms from Good People - i mean its not *good people* you have to worry about having arms - but as a matter of semantics, it is not really a "Right".
I know the NRA thinks otherwise, but you really only need read your Bill of Rights to understand the issue - it is very clear.
as it dramatically reduces their costs. Therefore, I doubt they care about what happens to Microsoft.
Yes, for *production*. MSWindows, and its Monopoly will be aid them in extending their content monopoly into the PC world... with few bumps.
First, Let me make it clear: I abhor violence of all types. I feel state-backed violence is an afront to humanity - ALL violence from the smallest to the most 'justified' in all forms only re-enforces a future of violence...
... do you seriously know what it is even like to go through this now as a US citizen?
o r3.html
Screw you for calling me a "Fucking wanker"
The rest of the world has experiencd a great deal of war. WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Cuba, Guatemala, Columbia, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Ethiopia, Yugoslavia, Haiti, East Timor, Laos and many many more states have had domestic armed-conflict with the support/direct involvment of the USofA. There is no modern state without blood on its hands, these acts are terrible under ANY circumstances and should not be tolerated - not in retaliation to this event and not again, ever in future. If you Yanks run off wildly you'll be no better than the morons who justify these actions in any regard. Please see: http://www.humboldt1.com/~016910/ChronologyofTerr
We're talking about going to war with something that can not been seen ot touched. Exactly - violence begets violence. You cannot fight your way out of this, simply dealing with the reality of the world, its problems, our goals in the shadow of this tradgedy MIGHT be an opportunity for all of us (the whole of humanity) to set the course of this planet right again.
Attacking ANYBODY will only prove that these acts, at some level - from the perspective of the people committing them - are justified... you DO know that to the people who did this, as ill as it was, felt that THEY were also justified.... both the USofAmerica and whoever they might wish to attack would be terribly wrong.
But make no mistake, it may be hard to swallow as an America - AND THIS DOES NOT JUSTIFY OR CONDONE THIS ACT - but American Foreign policy is not blamless or banign... you do reap what you sow... to think otherwise is flately ignorant and nieve.
To promise retaliation is not hubris, it's apporpriate.
no, its childish and immature - to retaliate, to lash out wildly is idiotic.
...your a fucking idiot.
this kind of cluelessness, complete lack of perspective, is why America is so copletelly detested.
+5 Insightfull(!)
if there are that many americans who would rally around your blind and idiotic opinions - you prove exactly why your country was attacked
Its sad but true... lots of non-americans clearly see, clearly understand that america's sanctimonious response is typical but not surprising...
I think everybody's first reaction will indeed be to annihilate
right. But with reason, with hind-sight(sp?) reasonable measures, with REASON(!) please, do not whip people around you - do not believe that might is right, might-is-right is what leads to this horror.
the rest of the world has been rebuilding from the first 50 years of war in the world - WWI && WWII - do not confuse yourself, this is the same horror that has been felt/lived in the rest of the world.... they have set a course in complete and total opposition to the one set by USA, do you think this is from the wisdom gained from this event??
Try and learn, live, grow - accept fate - but please do not replicate mistakes... do not think that physical retribution will make ANYTHING right again.
FWIW, I'm not a citizen of the U.S. nor do I live there.
Violence induces more violence. Retaliation will only lead to more deaths. If you are a citizen of the U.S. of America, please write your representative right now and ask him to join a plea for peace. Historically the U.S. reaction to this kind of attack is to counter strike. It's highly probably that it's already being planned or even carried on. That will solve nothing. You might get even, but that achieves nothing. The death will not come back and the attack has been already recorded on the books of history. At this point in time, counter attacking is irrational and puts not only the lives of U.S. citizens at risk, but those of lots of people all arround the world, too.
... i agree - relax people, do NOT think that a violent reaction is right - please, DO NOT react like schoolyard children. Reflect, THINK(!) we do not need more voilence - the people you kill in %SOME_FOREIGN_LAND% will also have children and familly.
...fucking hubris - dont get so fucking high and mighty.. this shit is fucked up in the highest order, save your jingoist nationalism for the fucking masses.
Who's dick is biggest - who fucking cares, grow UP! YOUR BEING MANIPULATED - YOU ARE THE MORONIC MASSES!
does anyone know of someplace which is offering access to these printers to paying customers? I would be perfectly happy to email CAD plans to a fabricator if I could get a quick, cheap kit of parts back in the mail.
See the 'z corp' who are running a program for free - as a marketing ploy: send them a *.stl here
this kind of instant 'copies' would destroy our presenet economy. there is a balance between supply, demand and price. what do you do when supply suddenly, perfectly was capable of matching demand....
Strange. Maybe we can get wise and fix the wag-the-dog problem of community vs. economy.