Wouldnt such a high speed fly by just destroy the planet? Im not suggesting it would be torn apart like the Destruction of the Deathstar - but what would happen to the 'tectonic' (sp?) plates? Wouldnt it be such a tramatic event to that we would end up with massive destruction on the planets surface?
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Is the employee of the future, and indeed
today, to have to privacy at all? It is surely the right of the employee that he be able to do as he wish when not at work,
The problem isnt with PDAs. This problem you describe is based on Class Slavery and the erosion of democracy being replaced by the new idea of "Corporate Rights". Ie the Right to ask you what you do in your own time, the right to own ideas/words/symbols/colours, the right to remove any/all percieved barriers to profit at any/all times.
Think about 'root causes' when you look at privacy issues, pollution, individual stress, bad television, corrupt politics etc etc. Usually you find Capatalist Profit Motive as being *the* major "Root Cause" of most modern problems.
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If your gonna be a slashdot poster lets ask that you work on your reading comprehension a little.
Please re-read: "You have missed the mark on your cliche: Did you really mean "dark and forbidding" and not "dark and forboding?"
What the hell is that mess? I read the whole thing - but frankly I dont know what the hell he was trying to say..?????? do people actually read that crap - wow.
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Hey there Cpt.Movie Mogul:
Its Atom Egoyan not Aton Egoyan.
You have missed the mark on your cliche: Did you really mean "dark and forbidding" and not "dark and forboding". If your gonna be a writer lets ask that you work on your reading comprehension a little.
And lastly; hearing "In the two theaters where I saw the movie, people had obviously been fooled, and there were lots of squirming kids." was rather disappointing. I thought that Mr. Katz, with his obvious cinematic insight was being given private screenings... a setting more fitting of his mighty stature.
BOSS: Is this a picture of you entering Super Bowl XXXV?
YOU: (hanging head in shame) Yes.
BOSS: Get the fuck out of my office.
Your right - this kind of crazy shit will never affect your *job prospects* or *ability to work as a member of a productive business vernture* so why the fuck would anyone care... eheheheh silly us for thinking about liberty, freedom to determine our personal destiny and our futures heheheh eheheh. As long as it dont stop us from 'getting paid our due' why would we care.... heeheheh
Ask anyone who has attended a protest what the police are like. I am a responsible, educated, citizen (if i do say so myself)- who happens to also have some *very* 'liberal' ideals.(some people consider them Communist - which I would accept). I generally abhor the the ruling classes (for many reasons) - so I am pretty biased.But I am also capable of some objectivity. When I attended a protest in my home town - the police turned the city into a war zone. The protesters proposed to 'shut down the conference' this *may* appear to be a 'violent' behaviour ( i would disagree, it is mostly a matter of generating attention & demanding the right to participate in democratic functions (when the ruling class would not care to 'offer it to you') but thats another story)...
It is not a crime to protest. It is not a crime to be angry, 'contrary' and rude. During the 5 days that my city was hosting this event I *PERSONALLY* watched police violently harass, bother, follow, track, disrupt and assault other citizens. When the police have been 'empowered' to act in this way, with no recourse or responsibility in *MY* presence I understand the concerns of yourself and others.
The POLICE are *NOT* 'your friends' as long as you dont act contrary to their handlers. If you somehow hold opinions that are contrary to those held by the ruling class you will quickly find that the police are quite capable, willing, and able to harass you. Face logging/identifying systems will only be used responsibly if *YOU* are not on the 'shit list'. Otherwise they can and will be used to harass you. Trust that.
Now, do I think these systems are inherently evil? No. Its that our 'democracies' (Canada & US) have slowly been corrupted. There is no balance. When the 'authorities' use their positions to justify the 'fortification' of their ideals - and deploy tools which may aid them in maintaining the status-quo (whatever it may be) we fall out of balance. No 'side' should have the ability to act over the other (the 'ruling class' over the 'people'). I would simply propose that something be done to assure balance: If the 'authorities' use these devices people must consent to them. Meaning: If you refuse to be tracked - its your right... my proposal may not be 'workable' but I think everyone gets 'my point'.
The idea is balance. In western democracy the judiciary is supposed to temper the control of the government and maintain balanced based on ideals (Charter of Rights and Freedoms & US Constitution). These ideals are not 'set in stone' by those documents - but the ideas must be upheld - and must have more authority and power.
Im beginning to ramble...
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That's all this software does, and it does it cheaper than people.*
Yes, it may be 'cheaper'. But you fundamentally changing the way the system works. In one instance you have people (cops or their designates) who are asked to monitor a public space and look for Bad Guys(TM). In the other case you have an automated system, programmed to act to its best ability, to 'assume' that a person is a member of the Bad Guy Group(TM).
What happens in the latter case is you remove objectivity, you remove the idea that a person is 'entitled to due process, compassion, assumption of innocence (etc etc) that only *people* can administer. When a program has the ability to make an accusation, without it being tempered by the above, or the *responsibility* that comes with being able to make this accusation we are treading into new territory.
Scenario: Bad-Guy-o-Tron-2000(TM) spots a member of the Bad Guy Group in seat A12. Police remove, detain, harass, bother, interact (whatever) with Person A12. When the police realize that they dont -in fact- have a Bad Guy(TM) what is this innocent citizen's recourse? What ability does this person have to assure it doesnt happen in future? What you have done is enable the Police to detain, remove, harass, bother, interact with someone on the basis of a computer's accusation. The police no longer have to have 'reasonable suspicion' (tempered by human judgment & responsibility (given based on the police's assumption of reward and consequence)).
People have the 'human right' to *NOT* be harassed, to be presumed innocent. This type of system removes that 'right'.
*And: Community principles should not be compromised based on cost. That's fucking ridiculous.
If you would deny property owners the right to protect their property by imposing draconian limitations about what they can and cannot do on their own property
This is not a property rights issue - they may request that people with warrents *not* attend there functions - they do not 'have the rights' to _assume_ responsible citizens would not care if they are being tracked.
I personally feel this is terrific - maybe actions like these attached to a 'super-bowl' event will excite the Average Joe Yankee into waking up a bit about the direction of his country.
We can safely bet Average Joe Yankee hasnt't heard of the DMCA, General Erosion of Privacy, DeCSS Case or the problems with IP/USPTO... you can bet that he *WILL* hear about this. What will be interesting to see is what spin Big Media(TM) puts on this issue, and how long it lingers. Will Average Joe Consumotron Yankee look up from his McBlouandals McMonkeyBurger long enough to ask himself what brought him there..? and why there are cameras tracking the 'comings' & 'goings' of everyone - and to what purpose..?
Except, whereas MSFT uses Embrace and Extend(TM), we use Embrace and Assimilate(GPL)
That is a very interesting point. Very true.
The idea at hand is that Linux Gaming will suffer if 'we' make it easy to run DX games on Linux... but just to Fsck w/ Microsoft's 'shit' why cant our developers do a little 'extending' ourselves and add some 'commonly missing' API or just a little extending... if 'we' 'openly' do that whats to say 'we' cant get some DX developer interest and try tickling their interest.
I know its 'evil' and a trait of The Devil(Tm) but why not do it, make it very well know, document it, and propose that M$ 'open'the DX API to allow cross platform development/adoption... if 'we' do this it would force Microsoft to take the position 'we are the only ones who will define the DX API no matter what you want'...
The Best Case: M$ Creates a OpenDX group.
The Worst Case: M$ Looks like assholes (again) and Linux Zealots get a giggle.
Are you trying to suggest that the USPTO examiners are going to know more about technology than the Slashdot readership?
Im pretty confident in my understanding of Computer Tech - maybe a USPTO examiner will have equal understanding, but you cannot suggest the total knowledge of that USPTO couldnt be 'aided' by the input of the "Slashdot" Readership...
USPTO should run a website - maybe even slashcode that requests prior art from the public.
The USPTO see's issuing a Patent as revenue. More patents == more Revenue. If you read the USPTO 'newsletter' you will see that they consider their 'growth' a sign of success... completely opposite as most of us think. If they would simply make the prior-art search in a more public manner they would be awarding MUCH fewer patents. But if you read their website/newsletter they believe that the USPTO is a business - and its products are patents.. they feel they are doing an increasingly good job.
If they ran all potential patents through a Slash powered site you'd see 1% of the patents you see today.
unless your American apparently... in which case China's actions are the result of being evil godless commies, where Kent State was an accident, fluke or justified.
Anybody here remember the KENT STATE Massacre? A government that will kill its own citizens (many of them students--like most Slashdotters) is a government to be feared.
If you want to see war go away, first change human nature,
You are very wrong - people want peace above all else.. you site Germany which was a result of a Cult of Personality and Charisma, where as Stalin's evils were a corruption of ideals (Communist) to mask Fascism. The world is a dynamic place - we have had alot of war and conflict in the 20th century. I think many times people had whipped up xenophobia to their advantage - be carefull or America will grow into a Jihad like the world has never seen (which is my vote btw).
As for "If the fathers of the nation, its leaders and those with the power, decide that its the only way to ensure that they can keep their phony-baloney jobs"
You do realize that allot of the rest of the world use America as an example of HOW NOT TO RUN A COUNTRY (myself included). When you characterize countries that are not "cookie cutter replica's" of America ideals you try and dismiss them as 'phony baloney' - this is nothing more than American Hubris, really one of the major problems with America. Americans are convinced they are the most powerful, prosperous and free people in the world - and they have no problems telling everyone that... none of those things is really true (outside of possibly 'powerful') but to try and discuss that with an American and you run into a wall of Jingoism and Nationalism that truly scares me. Americans should start seeing their civil lives and community as a dynamic force - to be changed, altered, and molded for the better - and STOP adhering to your 'God Justified Right of America" that is growing into a Religion.
Maybe instead of spending 123^12 Billion Dollars on a Star Wars program America could start spending more money on Diplomacy. Start a international effort to sign a "Global Agreement to Ban Arms from Space" Treaty with the rest of the world.
Problem Solved.
If one of these 'rogue states' happens to not sign and starts putting up arms - they would be doing so against the policies accepted by the rest of the world. Which is MUCH Less likely to happen.
The only thing Gauranteed in this: If AMERICANS rush to militarize space - 5 other countries will do the same... why not try and PREVENT war from the outset and 'Give Peace a Chance'.
What - Cuba is not allowed to have Nukes? And the US is?
When Russia put nukes into Cuba it was to BALANCE the first-strike capabilities the US already posessed.
The US already had short range nukes within range of most (all?) of Russia.
It was obvious that the US was not willing to be put on an equal footing in the cold war - the thought of war on US Soil was too much to bear - and the Americans almost started a War because they didnt want to allow Cuba and Russia to act in their own best defense...
What amazes me is that in all 200 of these posts virtually no-one thinks this hole idea is bullocks.
Doesnt anyone think the better answer is peace?
Does any American really think they have to 'defend' themselves from someone else? Let me tell you if you are American: The rest of the world thinks America is the most Militarized Aggressor on the planet. Bar None. I would hope more Americans would be objective about the desire to build more weapons. Didnt anyone tell you people would prefer prosperity, happiness and peace vs war? Why would America (and Americans) so consistently decide to extend and prolong the brutal first 65 years of the 20th century... cant we fucking move on?
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I vote for all of the USA.
Why stop at just the Californians when we can do the whole job at once?
Actually considering the average weight of Modern Americans, you would get the same net effect if you had the yankees do this.
Wouldnt such a high speed fly by just destroy the planet? Im not suggesting it would be torn apart like the Destruction of the Deathstar - but what would happen to the 'tectonic' (sp?) plates? Wouldnt it be such a tramatic event to that we would end up with massive destruction on the planets surface?
Is the employee of the future, and indeed today, to have to privacy at all? It is surely the right of the employee that he be able to do as he wish when not at work,
The problem isnt with PDAs. This problem you describe is based on Class Slavery and the erosion of democracy being replaced by the new idea of "Corporate Rights". Ie the Right to ask you what you do in your own time, the right to own ideas/words/symbols/colours, the right to remove any/all percieved barriers to profit at any/all times.
Think about 'root causes' when you look at privacy issues, pollution, individual stress, bad television, corrupt politics etc etc. Usually you find Capatalist Profit Motive as being *the* major "Root Cause" of most modern problems.
If your gonna be a slashdot poster lets ask that you work on your reading comprehension a little.
Please re-read: "You have missed the mark on your cliche: Did you really mean "dark and forbidding" and not "dark and forboding?"
What are *you* talking about?
I'm sorry...
What the hell is that mess? I read the whole thing - but frankly I dont know what the hell he was trying to say..?????? do people actually read that crap - wow.
Its Atom Egoyan not Aton Egoyan.
You have missed the mark on your cliche: Did you really mean "dark and forbidding" and not "dark and forboding". If your gonna be a writer lets ask that you work on your reading comprehension a little.
And lastly; hearing "In the two theaters where I saw the movie, people had obviously been fooled, and there were lots of squirming kids." was rather disappointing. I thought that Mr. Katz, with his obvious cinematic insight was being given private screenings... a setting more fitting of his mighty stature.
tech support desk at a college.
Ill trade you my $75k per year:
"mine the widget production data from Oracle and stick it in a pie chart on a webpage"
job anyday for your
"meet interesting people with something to say about the universe" if you'd like.
Where do you people who have probably never contributed *anything* to *anyone*, *ever* get off...
/. post. Please, seek council.
Sounds like you have issues friend. Thats alot of hostility for one
In case anyone is interested, this may be a more appropriate link to that story: The Full Story
BOSS: Is this a picture of you entering Super Bowl XXXV?
YOU: (hanging head in shame) Yes.
BOSS: Get the fuck out of my office.
Your right - this kind of crazy shit will never affect your *job prospects* or *ability to work as a member of a productive business vernture* so why the fuck would anyone care... eheheheh silly us for thinking about liberty, freedom to determine our personal destiny and our futures heheheh eheheh. As long as it dont stop us from 'getting paid our due' why would we care.... heeheheh
Ask anyone who has attended a protest what the police are like. I am a responsible, educated, citizen (if i do say so myself)- who happens to also have some *very* 'liberal' ideals.(some people consider them Communist - which I would accept). I generally abhor the the ruling classes (for many reasons) - so I am pretty biased.But I am also capable of some objectivity. When I attended a protest in my home town - the police turned the city into a war zone. The protesters proposed to 'shut down the conference' this *may* appear to be a 'violent' behaviour ( i would disagree, it is mostly a matter of generating attention & demanding the right to participate in democratic functions (when the ruling class would not care to 'offer it to you') but thats another story)...
It is not a crime to protest. It is not a crime to be angry, 'contrary' and rude. During the 5 days that my city was hosting this event I *PERSONALLY* watched police violently harass, bother, follow, track, disrupt and assault other citizens. When the police have been 'empowered' to act in this way, with no recourse or responsibility in *MY* presence I understand the concerns of yourself and others.
The POLICE are *NOT* 'your friends' as long as you dont act contrary to their handlers. If you somehow hold opinions that are contrary to those held by the ruling class you will quickly find that the police are quite capable, willing, and able to harass you. Face logging/identifying systems will only be used responsibly if *YOU* are not on the 'shit list'. Otherwise they can and will be used to harass you. Trust that.
Now, do I think these systems are inherently evil? No. Its that our 'democracies' (Canada & US) have slowly been corrupted. There is no balance. When the 'authorities' use their positions to justify the 'fortification' of their ideals - and deploy tools which may aid them in maintaining the status-quo (whatever it may be) we fall out of balance. No 'side' should have the ability to act over the other (the 'ruling class' over the 'people'). I would simply propose that something be done to assure balance: If the 'authorities' use these devices people must consent to them. Meaning: If you refuse to be tracked - its your right... my proposal may not be 'workable' but I think everyone gets 'my point'.
The idea is balance. In western democracy the judiciary is supposed to temper the control of the government and maintain balanced based on ideals (Charter of Rights and Freedoms & US Constitution). These ideals are not 'set in stone' by those documents - but the ideas must be upheld - and must have more authority and power.
Im beginning to ramble...
That's all this software does, and it does it cheaper than people.*
Yes, it may be 'cheaper'. But you fundamentally changing the way the system works. In one instance you have people (cops or their designates) who are asked to monitor a public space and look for Bad Guys(TM). In the other case you have an automated system, programmed to act to its best ability, to 'assume' that a person is a member of the Bad Guy Group(TM).
What happens in the latter case is you remove objectivity, you remove the idea that a person is 'entitled to due process, compassion, assumption of innocence (etc etc) that only *people* can administer. When a program has the ability to make an accusation, without it being tempered by the above, or the *responsibility* that comes with being able to make this accusation we are treading into new territory.
Scenario: Bad-Guy-o-Tron-2000(TM) spots a member of the Bad Guy Group in seat A12. Police remove, detain, harass, bother, interact (whatever) with Person A12. When the police realize that they dont -in fact- have a Bad Guy(TM) what is this innocent citizen's recourse? What ability does this person have to assure it doesnt happen in future? What you have done is enable the Police to detain, remove, harass, bother, interact with someone on the basis of a computer's accusation. The police no longer have to have 'reasonable suspicion' (tempered by human judgment & responsibility (given based on the police's assumption of reward and consequence)).
People have the 'human right' to *NOT* be harassed, to be presumed innocent. This type of system removes that 'right'.
*And: Community principles should not be compromised based on cost. That's fucking ridiculous.
If you would deny property owners the right to protect their property by imposing draconian limitations about what they can and cannot do on their own property
This is not a property rights issue - they may request that people with warrents *not* attend there functions - they do not 'have the rights' to _assume_ responsible citizens would not care if they are being tracked.
I personally feel this is terrific - maybe actions like these attached to a 'super-bowl' event will excite the Average Joe Yankee into waking up a bit about the direction of his country.
We can safely bet Average Joe Yankee hasnt't heard of the DMCA, General Erosion of Privacy, DeCSS Case or the problems with IP/USPTO... you can bet that he *WILL* hear about this. What will be interesting to see is what spin Big Media(TM) puts on this issue, and how long it lingers. Will Average Joe Consumotron Yankee look up from his McBlouandals McMonkeyBurger long enough to ask himself what brought him there..? and why there are cameras tracking the 'comings' & 'goings' of everyone - and to what purpose..?
Im going to file a Patent on posting KarmaWhoring(TM) requests for people to *not* post silly "Im going to Patent..." messages on Slashdot.
You sir are not only a KarmaWhore - but are in Violation of said Pending Patent
Except, whereas MSFT uses Embrace and Extend(TM), we use Embrace and Assimilate(GPL)
That is a very interesting point. Very true.
The idea at hand is that Linux Gaming will suffer if 'we' make it easy to run DX games on Linux... but just to Fsck w/ Microsoft's 'shit' why cant our developers do a little 'extending' ourselves and add some 'commonly missing' API or just a little extending... if 'we' 'openly' do that whats to say 'we' cant get some DX developer interest and try tickling their interest.
I know its 'evil' and a trait of The Devil(Tm) but why not do it, make it very well know, document it, and propose that M$ 'open'the DX API to allow cross platform development/adoption... if 'we' do this it would force Microsoft to take the position 'we are the only ones who will define the DX API no matter what you want'...
The Best Case:
M$ Creates a OpenDX group.
The Worst Case:
M$ Looks like assholes (again) and Linux Zealots get a giggle.
Are you trying to suggest that the USPTO examiners are going to know more about technology than the Slashdot readership?
Im pretty confident in my understanding of Computer Tech - maybe a USPTO examiner will have equal understanding, but you cannot suggest the total knowledge of that USPTO couldnt be 'aided' by the input of the "Slashdot" Readership...
USPTO should run a website - maybe even slashcode that requests prior art from the public.
The USPTO see's issuing a Patent as revenue. More patents == more Revenue. If you read the USPTO 'newsletter' you will see that they consider their 'growth' a sign of success... completely opposite as most of us think. If they would simply make the prior-art search in a more public manner they would be awarding MUCH fewer patents. But if you read their website/newsletter they believe that the USPTO is a business - and its products are patents.. they feel they are doing an increasingly good job.
If they ran all potential patents through a Slash powered site you'd see 1% of the patents you see today.
unless your American apparently... in which case China's actions are the result of being evil godless commies, where Kent State was an accident, fluke or justified.
Anybody here remember the KENT STATE Massacre? A government that will kill its own citizens (many of them students--like most Slashdotters) is a government to be feared.
If you want to see war go away, first change human nature,
You are very wrong - people want peace above all else.. you site Germany which was a result of a Cult of Personality and Charisma, where as Stalin's evils were a corruption of ideals (Communist) to mask Fascism. The world is a dynamic place - we have had alot of war and conflict in the 20th century. I think many times people had whipped up xenophobia to their advantage - be carefull or America will grow into a Jihad like the world has never seen (which is my vote btw).
As for "If the fathers of the nation, its leaders and those with the power, decide that its the only way to ensure that they can keep their phony-baloney jobs"
You do realize that allot of the rest of the world use America as an example of HOW NOT TO RUN A COUNTRY (myself included). When you characterize countries that are not "cookie cutter replica's" of America ideals you try and dismiss them as 'phony baloney' - this is nothing more than American Hubris, really one of the major problems with America. Americans are convinced they are the most powerful, prosperous and free people in the world - and they have no problems telling everyone that... none of those things is really true (outside of possibly 'powerful') but to try and discuss that with an American and you run into a wall of Jingoism and Nationalism that truly scares me. Americans should start seeing their civil lives and community as a dynamic force - to be changed, altered, and molded for the better - and STOP adhering to your 'God Justified Right of America" that is growing into a Religion.
Maybe instead of spending 123^12 Billion Dollars on a Star Wars program America could start spending more money on Diplomacy. Start a international effort to sign a "Global Agreement to Ban Arms from Space" Treaty with the rest of the world.
Problem Solved.
If one of these 'rogue states' happens to not sign and starts putting up arms - they would be doing so against the policies accepted by the rest of the world. Which is MUCH Less likely to happen.
The only thing Gauranteed in this: If AMERICANS rush to militarize space - 5 other countries will do the same... why not try and PREVENT war from the outset and 'Give Peace a Chance'.
What - Cuba is not allowed to have Nukes? And the US is?
When Russia put nukes into Cuba it was to BALANCE the first-strike capabilities the US already posessed.
The US already had short range nukes within range of most (all?) of Russia.
It was obvious that the US was not willing to be put on an equal footing in the cold war - the thought of war on US Soil was too much to bear - and the Americans almost started a War because they didnt want to allow Cuba and Russia to act in their own best defense...
Find an Enemy: Check! China.
Imagine and Sell a Military Weakness: Check! Space Based Warfare.
Buy Arms: Check! Definite Increase in StarWars programs.
Justify Arms Spending by showing Evil Enemy intent: Check! Propaganda about the Evils of a Totalitarian China.
Start War through (obvious or non-obvious means) to Consume Weapons, Justify Further Spending and Prove Evil of Enemy: Pending.
So - now that a fearfull, racist leadership has re-entered Washington, how long will it be before they start up a war with these Evil Commies(TM)?
This is not Flamebait.
What amazes me is that in all 200 of these posts virtually no-one thinks this hole idea is bullocks.
Doesnt anyone think the better answer is peace?
Does any American really think they have to 'defend' themselves from someone else? Let me tell you if you are American: The rest of the world thinks America is the most Militarized Aggressor on the planet. Bar None. I would hope more Americans would be objective about the desire to build more weapons. Didnt anyone tell you people would prefer prosperity, happiness and peace vs war? Why would America (and Americans) so consistently decide to extend and prolong the brutal first 65 years of the 20th century... cant we fucking move on?