My understanding from the press releases and info on Be-related news sites is that the iToaster will work with any ISP, and will be configured for the user's ISP before shipping. I don't know how the user would change the settings if they wanted to change ISPs after recieving the product.
Here is a press release stating that bryce4 for BeOS will be out by the end of the year! They are getting slashdotted right now tho:) QuakeII & III have already been ported (they're using QIII on a dual pentium as a demo at PC Expo right now & apparently its impressing the heck out of people who see it:)
BeGTK was started at least in part to make a GIMP port possible/easier It was axed because of the existance of "another project" no details given, no code released (although by that point they had a GTK based applet running).
Presumably this other project is the EventLoop port and I would assume that they ARE porting GTK and that they were making enough progress that theBeGTK port was redundant. This is of course 100% speculation on my part;)
You have a point about the lack of hardware support, but those of us who were using Linux 4 or 5 years ago remember that Linux didn't support *everything* back then. Be is still developing their OS and still making a niche for itself, give it a chnce it is a VERY nice piece of technology
Microworkz announced that its up-comming low cost ($200) web appliances will be powered by BeOS, also metacreations is porting Bryce 4 to BeOS, Bryce 4 is a nifty & fun to use program that will fit nicely with BeOS.
What I don't understand is how can an encryption be designed for use in harming national security. IF terrorist A sends terrorist B details of an attack on US soil and encrypts those details using PGP is not PGP therefore deisgned for use in harming national security? How would "M$ Terrorist [TM]" differ from any general purpose encryption product? I certainly can't think of any features that would be useful ONLY to spies, terrorists, mafioso and child molestors.
My point is that any general purpose encryption product could be construed to fall under this phrase.
One of the amendments grants the Secretary of Commerce the authority to deny the export of any "custom-made" encryption products designed for "use in harming national security, use in the sexual exploitation of children [or] use by organized crime."
Is it just me or is this a giant loophole? It seems that anything other than SSL type commercial transactions could fall under this loop hole (e.g. PGP) They [Government/ Law Enforcement] seem to think that they have an absolute right to spy on people at whim.
I DO NOT vote for people to "uphold morals and values" there is nothing worse than some polititian telling people what there morals should be. They are there to take care of public policy, nothing more. The government has NO business telling people what their morals should be! The last thing I wasnt is some ultra-right Christian Coalition type telling me what I can or can not access on the net: they want to not only filter porn, but sex-education, birth control, left wing political action groups, gay youth support groups and anything else doesn't fit their pseudo-morality. Some of the more extreme examples of this species of congress-critter are nothing more than facists.
Personally, I think something needs to be done to curb this sort of ridiculous behaviour before any sense of community is lost...
Unfortunatley as a "community" grows it changes, looses focus, and becomes something bigger and wider than before. Just look at how the Net has changed in the last 5 years. I was among the first to get on the net after it was opened to commercial exploitation (i.e pay for access) For instance people not from.edu addresses were looked on as worse than idiots whose opinions were worthless. As more and more people came on line, SLIP &PPP became available and supported by ISPs, the WWW exploded, changing everything out of all recognition. There are few remnants of the previous "culture" or "community" left. The same will happen (but on a smaller scale) if linux really catches on and gains some main-stream acceptance. Unfortunately there is not much you can do about it, just accept it as part of the price of success.
I have a dual PII300 system with 256MB Ram running BeOS R4, this system just flies! Due to everything thats Be native is multi threaded, Be really takes advantage of having multiple cpus. Parrallelizable cacluations can be divided into as many threads as there are cpus (example: the awesome 3-D starchart app)
My personal experience with SMP linux was not so good, the performance boost wasn't as great as I would have thought and the systems were about as stable as Window$ (crashing 2 or 3 times a week) But this was 2.0, 2.1 so maybe the 2.2 kernels do a better job now.
If you really beleive that Linux is destined for widespread use beyond geeks and servers it needs something like what Corel is planning. Linux need s to have a simple install process, a drag-and- drop-doubleclick-on-the-icon type desktop to gain wider use. Right or wrong the average user is happier with a big company name behind an OS, one who will support the product (yes I know Linux does have great de-facto support, but the target user won't know this or even know the right questions to ask) and provide apps for it.
The only bit that worries me is "like windows" thing.. how bout "better than windows" ?
I still think that Linux will never be better than BeOS as a desktop OS.
You obviously don't know anything about Be, because if you did you would not question the quality of their code. If you write code yourself, take a look at their API on www.be.com. Now I know C++ is not l33t, but when done right it rocks, and no-one who uses a Be system will ever again think that C++ only produces slow bloated code.
Just because Window$ is not a very good OS doesn't mean that all proprietary OSes suck
If they press you for a minimum DON't give an exact number( as you'll likely get that number ) If you have to give them something, be as general as possible "around this$K" or $n*10K to $(n+1)*10K Make it reasonable for the job you're trying for, but don't let them pin you down on a low number, make them give you an offer that is reasonable. Most companies, unless they are really desperate to fill a position, will try to minimize your salary! (Duh)
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My point is not that Linux is dated, but that becasue unix has beeen around for a long time the the rough edges have been knocked off, its well understood, and, as you point out, good. Therefore there was plenty of knowledge and willing participants around when linux was first developed, making the development and hardware support easier. Calling linux 25yr old technology was not really meant as a slam, but one of the things I do like about BeOS is that it is a fresh approach and builds on what CS has learnt over the last 25 years.
The same Two Words they said about Linux
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When I first started using linux back in 0.9.18 the big slam against linux was how difficult it was to use and the lack of hardware support. I didn't mind the pain in getting it to work becuase when I did, it worked properly which is more than you could say for windows 3.1 (which didn't work at all)
Remember BeOS for intel has been publicly available for less than a year.. they're doing a pretty good job so far IMO and its not even based on 25 years old technology!
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Becuase BeOS just screams on multiple cpus.. most apps written for be are multi-threaded so one app can be distributed across the cpus.. for computationly intense tasks, an app can simply spawn as many calulation/rendering threads as there are cpus and let the scheduler take care of the rest.
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My understanding from the press releases and info on Be-related news sites is that the iToaster will work with any ISP, and will be configured for the user's ISP before shipping. I don't know how the user would change the settings if they wanted to change ISPs after recieving the product.
Here is a press release stating that bryce4 for BeOS will be out by the end of the year! They are getting slashdotted right now tho :) QuakeII & III have already been ported (they're using QIII on a dual pentium as a demo at PC Expo right now & apparently its impressing the heck out of people who see it :)
BeGTK was started at least in part to make a GIMP port possible/easier It was axed because of the existance of "another project" no details given, no code released (although by that point they had a GTK based applet running).
;)
Presumably this other project is the EventLoop port and I would assume that they ARE porting GTK and that they were making enough progress that theBeGTK port was redundant. This is of course 100% speculation on my part
You have a point about the lack of hardware support, but those of us who were using Linux 4 or 5 years ago remember that Linux didn't support *everything* back then. Be is still developing their OS and still making a niche for itself, give it a chnce it is a VERY nice piece of technology
Microworkz announced that its up-comming low cost ($200) web appliances will be powered by BeOS, also metacreations is porting Bryce 4 to BeOS, Bryce 4 is a nifty & fun to use program that will fit nicely with BeOS.
Way to go BE!
What I don't understand is how can an encryption be designed for use in harming national security. IF terrorist A sends terrorist B details of an attack on US soil and encrypts those details using PGP is not PGP therefore deisgned for use in harming national security?
How would "M$ Terrorist [TM]" differ from any general purpose encryption product? I certainly can't think of any features that would be useful ONLY to spies, terrorists, mafioso and child molestors.
My point is that any general purpose encryption product could be construed to fall under this phrase.
One of the amendments grants the Secretary of Commerce the authority to deny the export of any "custom-made" encryption products designed for "use in harming national security, use in the sexual exploitation of children [or] use by organized crime."
Is it just me or is this a giant loophole? It seems that anything other than SSL type commercial transactions could fall under this loop hole (e.g. PGP) They [Government/ Law Enforcement] seem to think that they have an absolute right to spy on people at whim.
I DO NOT vote for people to "uphold morals and values" there is nothing worse than some polititian telling people what there morals should be. They are there to take care of public policy, nothing more. The government has NO business telling people what their morals should be! The last thing I wasnt is some ultra-right Christian Coalition type telling me what I can or can not access on the net: they want to not only filter porn, but sex-education, birth control, left wing political action groups, gay youth support groups and anything else doesn't fit their pseudo-morality. Some of the more extreme examples of this species of congress-critter are nothing more than facists.
Personally, I think something needs to be done to curb this sort of ridiculous behaviour
.edu addresses were looked on as worse than idiots whose opinions were worthless. As more and more people came on line, SLIP &PPP became available and supported by ISPs, the WWW exploded, changing everything out of all recognition. There are few remnants of the previous "culture" or "community" left. The same will happen (but on a smaller scale) if linux really catches on and gains some main-stream acceptance. Unfortunately there is not much you can do about it, just accept it as part of the price of success.
before any sense of community is lost...
Unfortunatley as a "community" grows it changes, looses focus, and becomes something bigger and wider than before. Just look at how the Net has changed in the last 5 years. I was among the first to get on the net after it was opened to commercial exploitation (i.e pay for access) For instance people not from
M$ thought of I2 three days before you did -- and they have the internal memos to prove it!
I have a dual PII300 system with 256MB Ram running BeOS R4, this system just flies! Due to everything thats Be native is multi threaded, Be really takes advantage of having multiple cpus. Parrallelizable cacluations can be divided into as many threads as there are cpus (example: the awesome 3-D starchart app)
My personal experience with SMP linux was not so good, the performance boost wasn't as great as I would have thought and the systems were about as stable as Window$ (crashing 2 or 3 times a week) But this was 2.0, 2.1 so maybe the 2.2 kernels do a better job now.
Try BeOS if you haven't already, it has a very slick C++ API and has ecgs, not to mention a nice fully functional, holy-war-free desktop GUI!
If you really beleive that Linux is destined for widespread use beyond geeks and servers it needs something like what Corel is planning. Linux need s to have a simple install process, a drag-and- drop-doubleclick-on-the-icon type desktop to gain wider use. Right or wrong the average user is happier with a big company name behind an OS, one who will support the product (yes I know Linux does have great de-facto support, but the target user won't know this or even know the right questions to ask) and provide apps for it.
.. how bout "better than windows" ?
The only bit that worries me is "like windows" thing
I still think that Linux will never be better than BeOS as a desktop OS.
You obviously don't know anything about Be, because if you did you would not question the quality of their code. If you write code yourself, take a look at their API on www.be.com. Now I know C++ is not l33t, but when done right it rocks, and no-one who uses a Be system will ever again think that C++ only produces slow bloated code.
Just because Window$ is not a very good OS doesn't mean that all proprietary OSes suck
FS: 64-bit journalling FS "BFS"
read only ext2 driver for Be
read only BFS driver for linux
r/w dirver for FAT32 for BeOS
http://www.be.com has all the answers
If they press you for a minimum DON't give an exact number( as you'll likely get that number )
If you have to give them something, be as general as possible "around this$K" or $n*10K to $(n+1)*10K Make it reasonable for the job you're trying for, but don't let them pin you down on a low number, make them give you an offer that is reasonable. Most companies, unless they are really desperate to fill a position, will try to minimize your salary! (Duh)
My point is not that Linux is dated, but that becasue unix has beeen around for a long time the the rough edges have been knocked off, its well understood, and, as you point out, good.
Therefore there was plenty of knowledge and willing participants around when linux was first developed, making the development and hardware support easier. Calling linux 25yr old technology was not really meant as a slam, but one of the things I do like about BeOS is that it is a fresh approach and builds on what CS has learnt over the last 25 years.
When I first started using linux back in 0.9.18 the big slam against linux was how difficult it was to use and the lack of hardware support. I didn't mind the pain in getting it to work becuase when I did, it worked properly which is more than you could say for windows 3.1 (which didn't work at all)
Remember BeOS for intel has been publicly available for less than a year.. they're doing a pretty good job so far IMO and its not even based on 25 years old technology!
Becuase BeOS just screams on multiple cpus.. most apps written for be are multi-threaded so one app can be distributed across the cpus.. for computationly intense tasks, an app can simply spawn as many calulation/rendering threads as there are cpus and let the scheduler take care of the rest.