Nope. They were doing Object Desktop for OS/2 back in the mid-90s. It was a damn fine product too.
I was hoping someone would step in and provide hacks for Win8. I figured Stardock would be one of the first, and they are.
In the earliest days of microcomputers nearly all machines would come with some form of BASIC built in. Now you can argue about whether it's a good language or not-- that isn't the topic-- the point is that anyone who bought a computer at least did _some_ programming, because they *had* to.
What killed it? Increasing availability of software of course, but I'd say the rise of the GUI also, from the first Lisa/Mac on out; even so during that era the folks who used IBM PCs might have to learn how to write batch files. I'm not saying GUIs are a bad thing, only that once they became dominant there wasn't much reason for computer makers to bundle a language any more. In a nutshell, computers became easy to use.
Pick an OS. Mac, Windows, Linux; it doesn't matter. Right out of the box a modern computer can do useful work right away, without the need for anything extra. Bottom line, there's no *incentive* to program.
I'm not sure how you can be a chip manufacturer without any foundries or production facilities whatsoever, but I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Good luck, AMD!!"
Thanks for the props. I'd still argue it's pretty slow because the kitchen sink gets installed by default (but you can remove that). I love YaST. It may be a pig, but everything you need's right there. Someone else had mentioned have trouble with drivers a while back-- I have a printer (Samsung CLP-310 color laser) that is a nightmare to get installed but other than that it does as well or as not well with drivers as any other distro of the same age/vintage. Hopefully the CLP-310 will be autodetected in 12.2. Another thing I don't like is having to hand-edit fstab every time I install it to get proper write support on NTFS drives, and I'm having some problems with hard lockups in the 3.x kernel (that are not limited to just OpenSUSE; other distros are affected too from what I understand). All in all, I've had a love/hate relationship with it since I started using it as my primary OS in 2004.
Why do you need apt? I'm not arguing that it's bad-- no, it's elegant and works great, but OpenSUSE has the best KDE experience going, and zypper does everything apt does. SUSE isn't perfect by a longshot. It's slower than most distros, but you'll find most everything you need in it.
Two places any pinball lover reading this should visit on the web:
www.futurepinball.com/
and
http://www.randydavis.com/vp/intro.htm . Future Pinball is easier to set up and use, though VP offers more tables. You can also build your own if you're so inclined in either one. Pretty neat stuff!
It's an ASUS P8 H67-M Pro board. I ran it up from 3.4 to 4 GHZ once but then backed it down to 'automatic' overclocking. I just checked a second ago and at that moment it was running at 3.5. All that was under Win 7-64. You just reminded me I need to set the BIOS. Ordinarily I run Linux, in which case I overclock it at 10%. This is on the stock cooler. These Sandy Bridge chips are pretty cool! (Pun intended).
Civ V was slow as cold molasses on my Phenom II 810 (quad core, 2.6GHz) during the late game on large maps. The performance jump in it when I got this i7-2600K (quad core with HT=8, 3.4GHz) I'm using now surprised me. Like you say, other apps run at more similar speeds.
The only workstation class machine with which I have been completely happy is powered by an AMD 4 way Phenom II.
My last box was a quad-core Phenom II. It served me well. There's no denying though, that Intel's current i7s (I have a 2600K) blow everything else out of the water. I fervently hope AMD will come up with something to challenge it. Competition is good.
Agreed. It's a breathlessly ebullient press release sales pitch. That said, I hope AMD is able to get back into the game to keep Intel honest, and I own an Intel processor (the last four or five machines I built before it were AMD-based).
The comments made me think of this: http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm . The changing roles of the sexes and modern technology are causing people to honestly ask the question, what are men FOR? As I look back on 50 years of life and 35 years of dating/interacting with females, I wonder too.
At the same time (I don't have the news link handy) I think I read that there's a push to make the automakers ensure their snazzy tech gadgets aren't enabled while the car is moving. Presumably to keep peoples' eyes on the road instead of a screen. I'm not sure what to think about that.
I notice not many people here are saying we should do away with intrusive pat-downs and feel ups altogether. At least here in the US, we used to have something called the 4th Amendment, which protects against unreasonable search & seizure.
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Spimming/spamming me; robocalling me, even calling me unsolicited, are not ways to get me to vote for you, no matter the party.
This isn't about what the consumers want. It's about what the manufacturers can crank out the cheapest.
1KB Chess for the Sinclair still has that beat.
The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million-to-one. I wouldn't worry about it folks.
The burden of proof is on the claimant. **PROVE** it.
the problem does not lie within the system. It exists outside of it.
You nailed it. We don't need better teachers. We need better students. The culture's gone to shit.
Nope. They were doing Object Desktop for OS/2 back in the mid-90s. It was a damn fine product too. I was hoping someone would step in and provide hacks for Win8. I figured Stardock would be one of the first, and they are.
In the earliest days of microcomputers nearly all machines would come with some form of BASIC built in. Now you can argue about whether it's a good language or not-- that isn't the topic-- the point is that anyone who bought a computer at least did _some_ programming, because they *had* to. What killed it? Increasing availability of software of course, but I'd say the rise of the GUI also, from the first Lisa/Mac on out; even so during that era the folks who used IBM PCs might have to learn how to write batch files. I'm not saying GUIs are a bad thing, only that once they became dominant there wasn't much reason for computer makers to bundle a language any more. In a nutshell, computers became easy to use. Pick an OS. Mac, Windows, Linux; it doesn't matter. Right out of the box a modern computer can do useful work right away, without the need for anything extra. Bottom line, there's no *incentive* to program.
I'm not sure how you can be a chip manufacturer without any foundries or production facilities whatsoever, but I think I speak for everyone when I say, "Good luck, AMD!!"
Thanks for the props. I'd still argue it's pretty slow because the kitchen sink gets installed by default (but you can remove that). I love YaST. It may be a pig, but everything you need's right there. Someone else had mentioned have trouble with drivers a while back-- I have a printer (Samsung CLP-310 color laser) that is a nightmare to get installed but other than that it does as well or as not well with drivers as any other distro of the same age/vintage. Hopefully the CLP-310 will be autodetected in 12.2. Another thing I don't like is having to hand-edit fstab every time I install it to get proper write support on NTFS drives, and I'm having some problems with hard lockups in the 3.x kernel (that are not limited to just OpenSUSE; other distros are affected too from what I understand). All in all, I've had a love/hate relationship with it since I started using it as my primary OS in 2004.
Why do you need apt? I'm not arguing that it's bad-- no, it's elegant and works great, but OpenSUSE has the best KDE experience going, and zypper does everything apt does. SUSE isn't perfect by a longshot. It's slower than most distros, but you'll find most everything you need in it.
Unity is a bug if you ask me.
Two places any pinball lover reading this should visit on the web: www.futurepinball.com/ and http://www.randydavis.com/vp/intro.htm . Future Pinball is easier to set up and use, though VP offers more tables. You can also build your own if you're so inclined in either one. Pretty neat stuff!
It's an ASUS P8 H67-M Pro board. I ran it up from 3.4 to 4 GHZ once but then backed it down to 'automatic' overclocking. I just checked a second ago and at that moment it was running at 3.5. All that was under Win 7-64. You just reminded me I need to set the BIOS. Ordinarily I run Linux, in which case I overclock it at 10%. This is on the stock cooler. These Sandy Bridge chips are pretty cool! (Pun intended).
Civ V was slow as cold molasses on my Phenom II 810 (quad core, 2.6GHz) during the late game on large maps. The performance jump in it when I got this i7-2600K (quad core with HT=8, 3.4GHz) I'm using now surprised me. Like you say, other apps run at more similar speeds.
The only workstation class machine with which I have been completely happy is powered by an AMD 4 way Phenom II.
My last box was a quad-core Phenom II. It served me well. There's no denying though, that Intel's current i7s (I have a 2600K) blow everything else out of the water. I fervently hope AMD will come up with something to challenge it. Competition is good.
Agreed. It's a breathlessly ebullient press release sales pitch. That said, I hope AMD is able to get back into the game to keep Intel honest, and I own an Intel processor (the last four or five machines I built before it were AMD-based).
Agreed. "Dances With Smurfs" in 3D is what it was. "2001" deserved to win, as did the original 1977 "Star Wars," but not "Avatar."
The comments made me think of this: http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm . The changing roles of the sexes and modern technology are causing people to honestly ask the question, what are men FOR? As I look back on 50 years of life and 35 years of dating/interacting with females, I wonder too.
I never thought I'd be cheering Microsoft until now. That said, they aren't any better. What happened to "Don't be evil"?
At the same time (I don't have the news link handy) I think I read that there's a push to make the automakers ensure their snazzy tech gadgets aren't enabled while the car is moving. Presumably to keep peoples' eyes on the road instead of a screen. I'm not sure what to think about that.
Here ya go folks: http://youtu.be/EdbZEXfPwmg
Mod +1
I booted up Win7-64 yesterday so it could run Patch Tuesday and got the Blacole.BW false positive, so I can confirm this.
I notice not many people here are saying we should do away with intrusive pat-downs and feel ups altogether. At least here in the US, we used to have something called the 4th Amendment, which protects against unreasonable search & seizure.