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Slashdot Visits the Seattle Pinball Museum (Video)

People who hear about the Seattle Pinball Museum tend to say things like, "Seems like a must-visit destination in Seattle," and, "Why did no one tell me about this place!??!" Timothy Lord, Slashdot Editor and Video Host, agrees. Watch the video to see a huge grin on Timothy's face. And if you ever get to the Seattle Pinball Museum yourself, you'll probably have a smile on your face, too.

82 comments

  1. Loved pinball by ackthpt · · Score: 1

    Used to play one old machine in the college commons, racking up free games and could play for over an hour.

    Oddly enough, it was the same machine Bill Budge based Raster Blaster on.

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    1. Re:Loved pinball by nolife · · Score: 1

      I could play Rollergames endlessly starting with one credit. http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?gid=2006

      That was the only pinball machine that I was able to "flip" the score back through 0. It gave another credit when it passed the setpont the second time but the final score did not count as a high score. I eventually started getting as close as I could to flipping the score and then tilting out. You would get more overall credits doing that as a new high score gave multiple credits.

      My favorites or at least the ones I played the most were Funhouse, Time Machine http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2565 and Terminator 2. Twilight zone and Adams Family seemed to be the most popular but I only played them if there was nothing else.

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    2. Re:Loved pinball by TheGoodNamesWereGone · · Score: 1

      Two places any pinball lover reading this should visit on the web: www.futurepinball.com/ and http://www.randydavis.com/vp/intro.htm . Future Pinball is easier to set up and use, though VP offers more tables. You can also build your own if you're so inclined in either one. Pretty neat stuff!

    3. Re:Loved pinball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lots of great content on my site:

      http://www.pacificnorthwestpinball.com

      including two large links pages for pinball and video games, location(s) of same included where relevant.

      amigaboy

  2. Gorgar by tedgyz · · Score: 2

    I can't believe they showed Gorgar. I still remember playing that for the first time back in the 80's. It was the first game I can remember that "talked". Certain hits played a ghoulish voice.

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    1. Re:Gorgar by LMacG · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have a Gorgar. He knows seven words, You Me Beat Got Hurt Gorgar Speaks.

      I even got a Gorgar inspired tattoo - www.flickr.com/photos/larrymac/1593723048/

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      Slightly disreputable, albeit gregarious
    2. Re:Gorgar by filthpickle · · Score: 2

      Gorgar was just before my time....my mother probably wouldn't have let me play it if she had seen it anyway....Sinistar I remember however. Anyhow, this was immensely entertaining to me when I first saw it.

      (If you have never heard of Gorgar either, this is worth listening to....it is so completely ridiculous to hear now)

      At the very least listen to the 20 seconds starting around 1:57. I am talking about the magic that can only be created by a goddamn monster that speaks!

      Link: Hear. Me. Gorgar. Speak.

      This shit is memeworthy ridiculous.

    3. Re:Gorgar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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      go to lazycash24.com then click entertainment

  3. In Washington, DC by Joehonkie · · Score: 1

    We have on in Georgetown in DC in a mall, but it's kind of small and unimpressive.

    1. Re:In Washington, DC by Joehonkie · · Score: 2

      Er, apparently it's been moved to Baltimore as noted below.

  4. Ever since I was a young boy, by Kenja · · Score: 2

    I've played the silver ball.
    From Soho down to Brighton,
    I must have played them all.
    But I ain't seen nothing like him
    In any amusement hall.
    That deaf, dumb and blind kid
    Sure plays a mean pinball!


    I assume you all broke out into song. Or did you forget your Doc Martens?

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    "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
    1. Re:Ever since I was a young boy, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Talk about Grandpa music.

    2. Re:Ever since I was a young boy, by SuperTechnoNerd · · Score: 1

      Watch it now! You little whipper snapper!

    3. Re:Ever since I was a young boy, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've played the silver ball.
      From Sodo up to Belltown,

      I must have played them all.
      But I ain't seen nothing like him
      In any amusement hall.
      That deaf, dumb and blind kid
      Sure plays a mean pinball!
       

      Fixed that for you :)

  5. The first question should be... by abigsmurf · · Score: 2

    Do they have The Addams Family?

    One trick these pinball museums seem to miss is making them actual museums rather than just freeplay arcades, I'd love for them to have more informative exhibits, maybe a glass fronted workshop with someone restoring and repairing machines, details about have various features work (bumpers, dot matrix displays etc).

    1. Re:The first question should be... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Informative

      Do they have The Addams Family?

      One trick these pinball museums seem to miss is making them actual museums rather than just freeplay arcades, I'd love for them to have more informative exhibits, maybe a glass fronted workshop with someone restoring and repairing machines, details about have various features work (bumpers, dot matrix displays etc).

      Got a tour of Bally, back when a friend worked there. Pretty neat to see these things being assembled - wires everywere! Must have been a blast to design them.

      I actually discovered my love of pinball after years of playing video games. There's really something to be said for controlling and following a physical object on the board, rather than a load of pixels moving around.

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      A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
    2. Re:The first question should be... by abigsmurf · · Score: 2

      It's just a shame that the Pinball makers (or possibly arcade owners) got greedy and they started designing pinball machines to get through as much cash as possible. Multiple ramps aiming near straight down between the flippers, wide gutters, non-existent ball saved indicators. A play session that lasts less than a couple of minutes isn't fun.

      I'd be interested to try out Stern Pinball machines. For one, it's a worthy cause to support but also their table designs are pretty neat (even if they use a small selection of base layouts when designing them).

    3. Re:The first question should be... by I_am_Jack · · Score: 1

      If they don't, Stellar Pizza (which is about a 15 minute drive south of the museum) does. Tacoma has Dorky's Bar.

    4. Re:The first question should be... by PatPending · · Score: 1

      My first question is: do they have spare parts?

      Seriously, with so many electro-mechanical parts, where do they get spares from?

      I remember taking an old-school machine apart--it was surprising to discover that just about everything was attached to the top sheet of wood (i.e.., underneath the playable surface)--the rest of "the box" was practically void of parts. (Ditto for the upright (score) part also.)

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    5. Re:The first question should be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can promise you that Stern was a failure, and games in the 90s and early 2000s actually paid attention to player wishes. Stern now throws out the same layout with a new license every 6 months. Their games are downright terrible. Wait for Jersey Jack to get his show on the road.

    6. Re:The first question should be... by dogbowl · · Score: 1

      The recent (the 2000's) Stern titles aren't that great. (Although the word is that some of their newer titles are actually pretty good)

      The pinballs that could be considered the "golden age" seems to be the ones you are disparaging. Anything Bally/Williams from the 90's is now highly sought after by both the collectors and the players (which I guess could be the same)

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    7. Re:The first question should be... by abigsmurf · · Score: 1

      It was probably around 2000 when I noticed that pinball designs were starting to make a noticeable effort to try and keep playtime short (I remembering Revenge from Mars annoying me but that had the contributing factor of it being a short table) and arcades starting to charge £1 a go made it even worse (when I first started playing it was 30p a go).

    8. Re:The first question should be... by HereIAmJH · · Score: 1

      My first question is: do they have spare parts?

      Seriously, with so many electro-mechanical parts, where do they get spares from?

      Many of the parts are interchangeable and are still being manufactured because they weren't specific to the original manufacturer. I have a whole box full of spare parts that I got from Marco Specialties. New coils, flipper rebuild kits, ring kits, and a box of every size light bulb in all my machines.

      Where things get difficult are with machine specific parts. Artwork, playfield toys and plastics, ramps, etc. I can easily find mechanical parts for my 1980 machine. My 1991 machine has plastic ramps that are outrageously expensive if you can find them. Both machines are Williams. And forget about getting a replacement playfield for my Space Invaders pinball that isn't a mylar print. (mylar changes the play characteristics of the game)

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  6. National Pinball Museum by Verdatum · · Score: 1

    I'm curious if anyone knows how it compares to the National Pinball Museum, recently reopened in Baltimore, MD.

    1. Re:National Pinball Museum by ZipR · · Score: 3, Informative

      I haven't been (yet), but their site is here: http://www.nationalpinballmuseum.org/

    2. Re:National Pinball Museum by slyrat · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm curious if anyone knows how it compares to the National Pinball Museum, recently reopened in Baltimore, MD.

      There seem to be a few places like this now. There is the one in las vegas: pinball hall of fame
      The one in Baltimore you mentioned: national pinball museum
      One I just found in California
      The one the article mentions in Seattle
      another I found in NJ
      An article about several of these opening up around the country.
      And if you are interested in playing I found a place in St. Louis CP Pinball.
      Any other places people have found that are worth noting here?

    3. Re:National Pinball Museum by Verdatum · · Score: 1

      Nicely done, fellow Slashdotter! Much appreciated :)

    4. Re:National Pinball Museum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      blocked by websense. Category: Games.

      guess I can't use my lunch break to plan a cubscout fieldtrip... yeah, that's it.

    5. Re:National Pinball Museum by aaronrp · · Score: 1

      I've been to the one in Alameda, CA. http://pacificpinball.org/ It's a free play museum, but also has some information on the machines giving the history of them in context. It's not something I'd go back to every week, but it was fun to do once.

    6. Re:National Pinball Museum by tedgyz · · Score: 1

      Here in New Hampshire we have the Funspot arcade. While broader in scope than just pinball, they have a nice pinball section along with well maintained classic video games. They claim to be the largest arcade in the world. It is essentially an interactive museum.

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      "No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai
    7. Re:National Pinball Museum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I grew up spending time at "Eight on the Break" arcade in the early eighties. It's still there and rocking!
      http://thebreak.net/
      They always had excellently serviced pinball. Way back then many of their cabinets had been retrofitted with headphone jacks, it was awesome.

    8. Re:National Pinball Museum by intangible · · Score: 1

      We have one here in Las Vegas called "The Pinball Hall of Fame" that is a beloved destination by all: http://www.pinballmuseum.org/

      Definitely check it out sometime :)

    9. Re:National Pinball Museum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pittsburgh has two worth checking out:

      PAPA, the site of the World Pinball Championships which is only rarely open to the public, and Pinball Perfection, which is only open when the weather is warm but has an astonishing number of pinball and entertainment machines. When I was a grad student, I used to play at Pinball Perfection every weekend. :)

  7. OK, I guess by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

    I think I just don't have the nostalgia gene.

  8. Pinballz by dloflin · · Score: 1

    Austin, TX has "Pinballz Arcade" - 13,000 sq ft of pinball machines old and new. They don't do the $10 entrance & unlimited games model - but a lot of the games are only a quarter. Oh and it's BYOB.

    1. Re:Pinballz by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1

      bring your own ball?

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    2. Re:Pinballz by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      Bring your own booze, they don't have a liquor license. It's also heavily family oriented so lots of screaming kids. They have a great collection of pinball games, but the classic video games are kind of lacking and in really poor condition. They should take out the crap stuffed animal crane type games to make room for some more classic video.

    3. Re:Pinballz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to say, pinballzarcade.com has 120 pinball machines compared to the 40 in Seattle. It's a pretty amazing place. And if you want to avoid kids they do have adults-only times in the evenings. Austin also has the awesome arcadeufo.com for with the latest fighting games (Blazblue, KoFXIII, etc), Rhythm games, and my favorite DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu.

  9. Ever since I was a young boy, I played that silver by Fritz+T.+Coyote · · Score: 1

    Pinball remains my favorite arcade game. There is just so much satisfaction in dealing with the elegant and complex physics engine that manages the movement of that silver ball, coupled with really excellent, lag-free, glitch-free graphics. Hard to believe that the physics have been in place since the vacuum tube era, when relays and solenoids managed the logic and tracked the score.

  10. Classics by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2

    I really liked pinball games like Gorgar & Pinbot, but my favorite of all time was Black Knight 2000. I haven't really cared for pinball games ever since most of them abandoned the plunger in favor of a trigger system.

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    1. Re:Classics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As much as I don't like the feel of a trigger system, most designers went to that as more of a longevity issue in addition to the gimmick factor. I've seen more machines broken by some douchebag that thinks they have MAD PLUNGER SKILLZ!!!! I do like the better control offered by the analog, though. It's a shame shatterglass-jerks have to ruin it for the rest of us.

      Respect History.

    2. Re:Classics by Roblimo · · Score: 1

      Yeah - Black Knight was good. Also Evel Knievel. Two of my faves.

    3. Re:Classics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We had Addams Family at my college's student union back in 1989-1993. (Pomona College)
      And then there was a Black Night 2000 machine up at Harvey Mudd College, 1/2 mile or so away.

      Great times, and a lot of quarters...

  11. Pinball is for fagets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Leering at smooth, shiny balls, pulling out a long, stiff knob and practically humping the machine as you tweak its weird side-nipples - wow, what a faget game that is.

    1. Re:Pinball is for fagets by filthpickle · · Score: 0

      Maybe this really is trolling....but it is pretty funny trolling....

  12. Computer Pinball by khr · · Score: 1

    I never really played real pinball machines. Once or twice, but I've never been good enough at them (or arcade video games, for that matter) to get my money's worth from a quarter...

    But I've long loved pinball games on computers... My favorite has got to be Night Mission.

    Nowadays I mostly play one with a sea mission theme on the iPad, along with the Slayer one.

  13. There's also... by Howard+Beale · · Score: 3, Informative

    the Silverball Museum in Asbury Park, NJ - http://silverballmuseum.com/ Took my son up there for an overnight trip last year. He thought there would be more video games, but still had a good time.

    1. Re:There's also... by KatchooNJ · · Score: 1

      Ah! I just posted mentioning this place too. heh. Yeah, they had a handful of video games there, but not many. The best place in NJ was Richie Knucklez Arcade in Flemington, but I understand he recently closed the arcade and is now only doing sales, which is a bummer. He used to have the arcade open on Friday nights for $10 a head and you could play for hours. Great selection of all of the classics, too.

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      "Never give up, for that is just the time and place when the tide will change." -Harriet Beecher Stowe ^_^
  14. OXO by Jakester2K · · Score: 2

    Despite less-than-pleasant memories of living with my stepfather, my fondest one is of playing the pinball machine he had in the house.

    It was called OXO, and had a tic-tac-toe board as its main feature. The "object" of the game, of course, was to win ttt.

    There was a button on the board centered between the angled bumpers just above the flippers which would light up the bottom center square, and the angled bumpers themselves, iirc, would switch what that button would put in the square - X or O.

    Sometimes the ball would move so fast - going from one bumper, over the button, and hitting the other bumper - that the electronics would get a little confused and put both the X and the O into the square.

    I must have played that thing for hours at a time in my Junior High days. I almost cried when he sold it prior to moving to a new home.

  15. Definitely recommend these too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Silverball Museum in Ashbury Park, NJ
    Pinball Hall of Fame in Las Vegas, NV

  16. Place is OK by JustNilt · · Score: 1

    I went once, not long ago. I'm of the opinion it's stretching the term "museum" to its breaking point. I wish they had more museum-like displays and the owner, when I asked, said they're working on funding. The place is well worth a visit for any pinball fan but don't expect too much "history" other than old machines.

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    You know the thing about UDP jokes? I don't care if you get it or not.
  17. And of Course... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Pinball Hall Of Fame in Las Vegas.
    250 to 300 machines from 1934 to Today.
    All proceeds to charity. Donated over $500,000 Last year.
    http://www.pinballmuseum.org/

  18. go to the las vegas pinball hall of fame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    las vegas pinball hall of fame has a lot of games old and new.

  19. more than 30 games? by frovingslosh · · Score: 2

    It's always nice to hear about an arcade, and this is the first one I've heard of that actually gets tax payer money rather than having absurd tax stamps on each machine (as well as the operators paying normal income taxes). Too bad they did that by calling it an "art". Might as well call it a sport and get Seattle to build you a stadium. But more than 30 games just isn't all that impressive, I've been in larger arcades, and there are some truly fantastic and much larger collections out there.

    I'm also rather disappointed by the $10 bucks to get in, play all you can approach. Doing that takes away from one of the key concepts of pinball, trying to win a free game. It would be like having slot machines on free play but with no payout, would get boring fast. OK, not quite that bad, but I'm certainly not going to go out of my way to see this the next time I'm in Seattle.

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    1. Re:more than 30 games? by Jakester2K · · Score: 1

      I get it, but I bet they still have the "extra game" function enabled - the one that produces a real hard knock somewhere inside the cabinet....

  20. There's a pinball hall in Zurich that's similar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have a look at http://outlane.ch.
    If you're in or near Zurich this is open twice a month but well worth a visit if you're around.

  21. Asbury Park, NJ has a great Pinball Museum by KatchooNJ · · Score: 2

    I was recently at a great pinball museum in Asbury Park, NJ. It was called the Silver Ball Museum and they had over 200 machines. Some of them went back to the 30s, I believe. The oldest one I tinkered on was from 1950, I think. It's wild to play the really old ones.

    Someone above mentioned Gorgar. Amusingly, I ended up playing that one probably the most. It is an older table, but I still think it is a great one. :-) The Addams Family is also a classic... if you want to get a bit more modern. ;-)

    btw... here is the link to the site for the place in Asbury Park... it is right near the Stone Pony, btw... http://silverballmuseum.com/

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    "Never give up, for that is just the time and place when the tide will change." -Harriet Beecher Stowe ^_^
  22. Something even more awesome there by gr8_phk · · Score: 1

    If you get the chance, stop by Laser Reflections.

  23. Illegal in some places by SuperTechnoNerd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the Mid Hudson Valley, New York ,in a town called Beacon this would be illegal. Just a few years ago a guy opened a shop very much like this. Three weeks after opening the police paid him a visit telling him that pinball machines and arcade games are against ordnance and illegal in the town of Beacon. He must shut his doors and pay a $1000 dollar fine for every day he was/is open. The owner had no idea of this ordnance and tried to appeal, and get the ordnance off the books with no luck. So he moved his place across the river to Newburg. Talk about stuck in the past..

    1. Re:Illegal in some places by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, we got trouble.....right here in Beacon City...and that starts with T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for....Pinball? /Robert Preston would be ashamed

    2. Re:Illegal in some places by LMacG · · Score: 1

      Ordnance is explosives. An ordinance is a law. And what kind of a businessman opens any establishment without checking on local regulations and restrictions?

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    3. Re:Illegal in some places by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the Mid Hudson Valley, New York ,in a town called Beacon this would be illegal. Just a few years ago a guy opened a shop very much like this. Three weeks after opening the police paid him a visit telling him that pinball machines and arcade games are against ordnance and illegal in the town of Beacon. He must shut his doors and pay a $1000 dollar fine for every day he was/is open. The owner had no idea of this ordnance and tried to appeal, and get the ordnance off the books with no luck. So he moved his place across the river to Newburg. Talk about stuck in the past..

      I've heard about this, but I believe the problem wouldn't have happened if he did the $10 admission with freeplay (or did he?). I believe the law was that by winning free games, or free balls it was considered gambling because there was a payout of sorts. Yes, that is some stuck in the past, and may be why the Seattle Pinball Museum charges admission instead.

    4. Re:Illegal in some places by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's me, anonymous coward again, lol, I think that's a little harsh, didn't know I had to join up to avoid being slandered!

      Anyhow, I commented on the illegal pinball play in NY above... I was going to add a comment to a previous poster that said freeplay pinball would get boring fast. I have a pinball game at home (Last Action Hero) and I can say that it has never gotten boring. it's a very challenging and fast playing machine, but I think all machines require a good deal of skill and luck. It does take away the fun of getting a "Match" for a free game, I miss that a little, but the game itself is so involved and so challenging that I never get tired of trying to beat my high score. It's all about the high score and bragging rights now.

  24. Pinloose? by KatchooNJ · · Score: 1

    Maybe Kevin Bacon can make a movie about this where he is a pinball wizard and he shows the town is it OK to play pinball and video games.

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    "Never give up, for that is just the time and place when the tide will change." -Harriet Beecher Stowe ^_^
  25. Not many places left in NJ to play by sudnshok · · Score: 1

    Eight on the Break is pretty good. They usually have about 10 pins that rotate.
    thebreak.net

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    People who say "money does not buy happiness" are just people without money trying to make themselves feel better.
    1. Re:Not many places left in NJ to play by KatchooNJ · · Score: 1

      Oh wow... been ages since I have been in Eight on the Break. Good info! Thanks! I might have to pop in next time I am in Dunellen.

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      "Never give up, for that is just the time and place when the tide will change." -Harriet Beecher Stowe ^_^
  26. Re:Barack Hussein Obama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't you mean Lesbian, Ghey, Bisexual, and TRY-sexual?
     
    What a dimwit...

  27. Place to play around Boston by ZlotyJelop · · Score: 1

    Flap Top Johnny's in Cambridge, close to M.I.T. http://www.flattopjohnnys.com/ Best pinball experience evahr.

    1. Re:Place to play around Boston by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the Boston area, the best is Lanes and Games near Alewife T. 8 games in pristine condition. Not as beer-friendly as Flat Top, but damn good.

    2. Re:Place to play around Boston by slyrat · · Score: 1

      In the Boston area, the best is Lanes and Games near Alewife T. 8 games in pristine condition. Not as beer-friendly as Flat Top, but damn good.

      I agree, that place was great! It was also neat because of the candle pin bowling which I had never seen before.

  28. better link http://www.vpforums.org/ by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    http://www.vpforums.org/ VP and pinmame are both open source

  29. Coming soon! by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    I pay a visit to the world's second smallest biscuit museum. And have a cup of tea.

    I'll be tweeting, facebooking, videoing and blogging about it next week, be sure not to miss it.

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    To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it