Some of us just expect them to follow the same laws that cabbies are required to. You know like the same insurance that's required for a commercial operator. Vehicle inspections, CPR training and so on. You know, exactly the same things that were put into law because cabbies had such a terrible track record that it was killing people.
Yes, how dare people demand they actually follow the law.
Greenpeace hasn't had credibility since the 1980's. It's all about filling someones pocket at the expense of fear mongering, it's also the same reason why people are being more critical of environmental groups. There's a reason why in Canada people who live outside of Toronto label it a watermelon organization. That's communist and anti-industrialist on the inside, environmentalist on the outside before some braindead nut starts screaming "racism." Their absolute insane brand of environmentalism also gives life to garbage like the Line 9 protests.(There is more garbage on it, just search) Where environmentalists started screaming about the "doom of the environment" because the direction of flow for the pipeline was reversed. I'm not even kidding, they were protesting a pipeline changing the direction of transfer because a newer and safer one had been built -- and this one would be used at a lower capacity.
Then again, this is the same environmentalism that also gave birth to the protests against pipelines and transporting goods by rail car. Think on that for a second, they're happier having said goods transported by transport trucks.
You must be living in an alternate universe and just collided with ours. Because "global warming as a perpetual myth" doesn't exist here, there are just more people critically not accepting it as a blanket truth. There's your difference, if you can figure it out.
I would like to see the papers and the critics. If the critics were some internet randos who are not scientists in the field, then yes, criticism is most likely moot.
Try your local library or university. Most places haven't digitized anything before about 1940, unless they're pertinent to research in an existing field. It's too expensive, and not worth the effort unless someone is working with them in more then once-in-a-decade work. That requires you gaining physical access to either stored or vaulted information. Universities I can suggest in Canada include the University of King's College and University of Laval. Set up appointments beforehand, otherwise they'll leave you sitting at the door. You may also have to pay, like I did. Though if you want to see the media support, check the articles relating to the works of Gall(the primary person behind it), including the citation examples from around 1810-1895, along with racist literature(you might have problems getting a hold of that depending on your country), especially in colonial countries.
99% consensus on phrenology eh? Tough to believe, but even so, phrenology wasn't debunked until someone debunked it.
You know there's no 99% consensus on climate change either. That's been debunked...repeatedly. If you need some help finding that definition of "fake news" that papers like WAPO keep going on about, that's a great one to start with. That consensus? Actually closer to 30% Phrenology was also the big radical theory that was supported in the media as proof of superior intelligence, not in no-name papers but the media of the day, books, the academia itself, the reasoning why women were inferior and shouldn't be allowed higher education and so on. It took nearly 140 years for that theory to finally die it's final death except among extremists. That reminds me on eugenics, that was also the great theory of the day. And quite a few places practiced that until the 1980's.
Unfortunately the country is filled with impressionable people who desperately want to believe their way of life never needs to change, and cling to folks like you as a lifeline instead of critically thinking about ways to improve their situation when the inevitable comes. Interestingly this applies as much to who we (society as a collective) vote for, who we (individually) decide to socialize with, and how we (as communities) determine responses to risk
And there's that part where you don't understand that people know that the world changes. However quite a few people don't believe that impoverishing themselves to do so is a great idea, many believe that if you're going to say...implement a carbon tax. There had best be zero impact on society. So you'd better be ramping up those nuclear power plants and so on. Instead, you see garbage like what's happened in Ontario and Alberta. Where the government and environmentalists scream "the sky is falling" implement something so badly, that it caused the price of fuel to jump $0.10-0.25/L, and people are now making the choice between "keeping their house warm" while it's -30C to -40C outside or simply keeping the roof over their head.
I'm sure you'll be happy to donate a few thousand bucks to me? I'll pass it along to my neighbors who are already having problems keeping their house heated with natural gas. Or maybe to one of the 700k people in Ontario who are 6mo or more in arrears in their electricity payments because those "plans for the environment" have driven them to the edge already.
Well, you're assuming I let the ISP put in a router with wifi attached. I've enough experience to roll my own so to speak, the only concern I have it's all Cisco gear but likely made in China.
Nope. I'm assuming that most people do. Your average(at least I still hope these days),/. reader has enough technical knowledge not to allow that. Remember that these days most hardware is plug and forget, because it's easier to sell. If hardware was at the level it was ~20 years ago where you still needed physical dip switches to set things? Well we'd be in a booming business still, and wouldn't have to worry about this either.
I have a thermometer that cost $1.29 and I'm a betting man, so I'd go with the odds that it's simply wrong.
I've got one of those too. It was made in 1803, and I'll bet that $1.29 it's more accurate then most have been made in the last 30 years. Those olde mercury-in-glass thermometers were and are still considered the gold standard for measurements.
Your back of the napkin familiarity on the subject matter in an age of scientific hyper specialization makes any opinion you have on the matter totally moot.
Strange, I've read scientific papers who argued in favor of phrenology and eugenics, and the detractors using the same language against critics.
Easy. Because device drivers can include bugs in bleeding edge releases especially for new games and hardware. An example you're running solid on say the 6mo old nvidia or AMD video drivers, a new game comes out. The new drivers are "optimized" for that game. So, windows decides to install those new drivers and breaks all your old games in the process. Because there were fundamental changes in the drivers. Now you get to have the fun and enjoyable part where you: Uninstall the driver, run the special MS 'deferment' upgrade for the driver they have in the standard release channel. Then install the old driver that was working fine, but shaved off a few FPS for that new game. It gets even worse when Windows will install an older driver over top of a new one. One of my friends had a problem where Windows 10 would install the 15.6 or 15.6 AMD catalyst drivers over top of the 16.xx drivers on every update and not even their "deferment tool" would stop it from happening.
The real problem is that windows has been able to botch driver upgrades since ye olde days of windows 98 and the first gen of PnP(or plug and pray as it used to be called) and brick a windows install to the point where a format and wipe is the only solution. That's either the problem of the hardware manufacture, or something going wrong with windows. That's not even touching on the clusterfucks with minor hardware revisions from companies like Realtek(most motherboards use their chipsets for audio or network connections). And one driver release can work, and another completely breaks the device to the point where you need to remove every single backup instance as well.
It's the current rate of change that scares scientists. Not the amount. The Earth can handle temperatures raising or dropping over millennia, but over mere decades, it's considered a catastrophe.
Except of course if you look at those same diagrams that are routinely used to show temperature swings, the current warming trend in most cases isn't just within the norms, in many cases it's below those "extremes." Seriously though, coastal ecosystems seem to do just fine. The shore lines in some cases were 12-30mi further out then they are today, and were able to adjust and swing in less then 150 years when those sea levels rose as the last ice age started ending.
Just use your hardware firewall to blot it from connecting to the net.
That only works if it's connected by a hardline. If everything is wifi, you only need to drive by and exploit the connection. Hell Bell Canada ships their modem-router combo's using WEP as the default, in some cases the house and street name are the default passwords. Blocking at the router level doesn't mean anything.
Well, nothing sets off my Nerd Alert like spotting someone sorting a smartwatch from previous decades.
I dunno, it sets off my "Hipster Alarm." It's usually triggered by shrill whining, and an attempt at 70's and 80's lingo which they don't grasp. Oh and polyester...
It's not the "breakout" option, that's the real reason it's banned. It's because the vehicle windshield and other glass windows are a component of the energy absorption system in a crash. A glass that's too ridged will transfer it's energy in a crash which can cause serious injuries, one that's too soft will absorb too much will do the same. Both are bad scenario's in a serious crash, it's why what we have now works so well.
Moral of the story? don't buy a house next to a freeway or, corollary, by a busy street.
Good advice, but then again if you've lived near such all your life? You'll probably miss the sounds/noise. I live within 300m of the 401(busiest highway in north america), the noise doesn't bother me. When I go traveling, and have to rent motels/hotel/etc rooms, I try to aim for places that are within the same distance of the nearest big highway. I find it completely relaxing, same with when I was a kid. Round that out that I've either lived right on, or within 250m of one of the busiest rail lines in Ontario(CN main trunk) all my life as well? Even those 5min long, chugging diesels? You learn to ignore it, or wonder why you don't hear it. Odd thing is, when I was growing up you could always tell there was warmer weather coming, because the sound would be much clearer(winds from the south). It's kinda stuck with me over the last 30 years.
The dust though? Almost 100% in the last 20 years from tires or diesel particulate. Brakes have been semi-metalic or made from ceramics for over a decade as well. It actually used to be worse when brakes were metallic(asbestos), I was doing my apprenticeship when they were just about to phase out to semi. But if you think that dust is bad? You've never lived near an open pit mine, that's dust. Lived near a few in my day, one near Beachville, Ontario(used to be the largest open pit lime mine in the world). And near the open pit coal mines in Grande Cache, Alberta. The amount of dust you'd see in most places in a month? Easily a day, sometimes half a day if the wind was blowing right.
Plenty of other things charged users for things during the previous dotcom boom. Almost all of them had some form of revenue stream besides VC injections. Almost all of them followed the laws in the countries they operated in. The difference as you pointed out correctly though, is that Uber believes the law doesn't apply to them. Which of course has led them to multiple criminal and civil cases being filed against them.
Brilliant, you have discovered the world is complicated. Any other wisps of wisdom fizzing around in your head?
Did you ever learn the parable "The Boy who cried wolf?" No? Time to learn the stuff that most people did back before Dr. Spock got his hands on child-rearing.
Ermmmmm. I'm pretty sure these guys aren't being labeled deniers.
These guys aren't. However, quite often when anyone who questions the orthodoxy? Quite often they are. Never notice it? That's okay. People who were in charge of the Catholic Church didn't notice it either when Martin Luther nailed his proclamation to the door either.
Thanks for helping point out just how absurd the deniers are. Well done!
Gee, so you're saying that 40+ years of the sky is falling, it's cooling, it's warming, no wait it's cooling. Wait a sec it's warming, that warming is going to cause the end of all life we know it. Storms are going to be more frequent, and worse. No wait, they're going to be less frequent and less severe. No wait, they're going to be less frequent and more severe. That's been pushed by: Academia, media, environmentalists, mouth pieces, flappyheaded gravy train riders. Hasn't caused any problems at all.
Good job. Sure explains why there's such a backlash against the left, academia, the media and so on. Nope, gotta double down it can't be *our fault* for decades of extravagant lies and feel-good politics that does absolutely nothing. While standing in the way of things like nuclear power, protecting a minnow in a hydro-electric project, and requiring 200 environmental impact studies to go through a swamp to put in a road for a remote community.
Everyone wants to invest in the next Google early. Uber could potentially be huge, especially with a fleet of driveless cars.
Uber is around 10 years too early. Just like many of the very first automakers, they're at the cutting edge and it will likely fail. Other companies will pick up from where they left off. But the people investing in Uber and driving up the valuation are VC's hoping that they'll get their initial buy-in back before the company goes tits up. Uber's potential is exactly the same as many dotcom companies, lots of flash no actual plan. It's the same reason why if Uber hadn't gotten an infusion of cash from the Chinese buy-in last year, their last quarterly loss would have been $4B-7B. FYI GM and Chrysler were on the verge of bankruptcy with billions in solid and liquid assets in the span of 3 fiscal quarters, Uber doesn't even have that.
Why can't we have a slow minor correction? Where over valued companies slow down and stop growing.
People tried, and people warned that's what needed to happen back in 2008/09. When the economy was shit in 08/09 that would have been the perfect time. You know what the response was? We're gonna dump money into the market, turn on the printing presses and go like mad at it. Austerity? Real austerity? Hah. Nope, that's what it was called it was anything but.
If you disagree with the method used for correction of the valitidy of the bias claims, then attack those on their merits.
People have. They're labeled "deniers" and then told by the ivory tower elitists that they're "backwards rednecks." That does wonders to ensure that people will actually listen now doesn't it? It's just like the 15 odd years of the progressive left screaming that anyone who's for immigration law enforcement are racists. Or that anyone deviating from orthodoxy and Obama's policies are automatically a racist. Or demand that people who rape children in child grooming gangs are charged as rapists, and the law enforced. Instead the politicians pussyfoot around it for fear of being labeled racists, so do the police, so do crown offices and so on.
The left and academia dug their own fucking pit on this, people warned them. They doubled down, now they get to reap the rewards of it.
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Some of us just expect them to follow the same laws that cabbies are required to. You know like the same insurance that's required for a commercial operator. Vehicle inspections, CPR training and so on. You know, exactly the same things that were put into law because cabbies had such a terrible track record that it was killing people.
Yes, how dare people demand they actually follow the law.
Greenpeace hasn't had credibility since the 1980's. It's all about filling someones pocket at the expense of fear mongering, it's also the same reason why people are being more critical of environmental groups. There's a reason why in Canada people who live outside of Toronto label it a watermelon organization. That's communist and anti-industrialist on the inside, environmentalist on the outside before some braindead nut starts screaming "racism." Their absolute insane brand of environmentalism also gives life to garbage like the Line 9 protests.(There is more garbage on it, just search) Where environmentalists started screaming about the "doom of the environment" because the direction of flow for the pipeline was reversed. I'm not even kidding, they were protesting a pipeline changing the direction of transfer because a newer and safer one had been built -- and this one would be used at a lower capacity.
Then again, this is the same environmentalism that also gave birth to the protests against pipelines and transporting goods by rail car. Think on that for a second, they're happier having said goods transported by transport trucks.
You must be living in an alternate universe and just collided with ours. Because "global warming as a perpetual myth" doesn't exist here, there are just more people critically not accepting it as a blanket truth. There's your difference, if you can figure it out.
I would like to see the papers and the critics. If the critics were some internet randos who are not scientists in the field, then yes, criticism is most likely moot.
Try your local library or university. Most places haven't digitized anything before about 1940, unless they're pertinent to research in an existing field. It's too expensive, and not worth the effort unless someone is working with them in more then once-in-a-decade work. That requires you gaining physical access to either stored or vaulted information. Universities I can suggest in Canada include the University of King's College and University of Laval. Set up appointments beforehand, otherwise they'll leave you sitting at the door. You may also have to pay, like I did. Though if you want to see the media support, check the articles relating to the works of Gall(the primary person behind it), including the citation examples from around 1810-1895, along with racist literature(you might have problems getting a hold of that depending on your country), especially in colonial countries.
99% consensus on phrenology eh? Tough to believe, but even so, phrenology wasn't debunked until someone debunked it.
You know there's no 99% consensus on climate change either. That's been debunked...repeatedly. If you need some help finding that definition of "fake news" that papers like WAPO keep going on about, that's a great one to start with. That consensus? Actually closer to 30% Phrenology was also the big radical theory that was supported in the media as proof of superior intelligence, not in no-name papers but the media of the day, books, the academia itself, the reasoning why women were inferior and shouldn't be allowed higher education and so on. It took nearly 140 years for that theory to finally die it's final death except among extremists. That reminds me on eugenics, that was also the great theory of the day. And quite a few places practiced that until the 1980's.
Unfortunately the country is filled with impressionable people who desperately want to believe their way of life never needs to change, and cling to folks like you as a lifeline instead of critically thinking about ways to improve their situation when the inevitable comes. Interestingly this applies as much to who we (society as a collective) vote for, who we (individually) decide to socialize with, and how we (as communities) determine responses to risk
And there's that part where you don't understand that people know that the world changes. However quite a few people don't believe that impoverishing themselves to do so is a great idea, many believe that if you're going to say...implement a carbon tax. There had best be zero impact on society. So you'd better be ramping up those nuclear power plants and so on. Instead, you see garbage like what's happened in Ontario and Alberta. Where the government and environmentalists scream "the sky is falling" implement something so badly, that it caused the price of fuel to jump $0.10-0.25/L, and people are now making the choice between "keeping their house warm" while it's -30C to -40C outside or simply keeping the roof over their head.
I'm sure you'll be happy to donate a few thousand bucks to me? I'll pass it along to my neighbors who are already having problems keeping their house heated with natural gas. Or maybe to one of the 700k people in Ontario who are 6mo or more in arrears in their electricity payments because those "plans for the environment" have driven them to the edge already.
Well, you're assuming I let the ISP put in a router with wifi attached. I've enough experience to roll my own so to speak, the only concern I have it's all Cisco gear but likely made in China.
Nope. I'm assuming that most people do. Your average(at least I still hope these days), /. reader has enough technical knowledge not to allow that. Remember that these days most hardware is plug and forget, because it's easier to sell. If hardware was at the level it was ~20 years ago where you still needed physical dip switches to set things? Well we'd be in a booming business still, and wouldn't have to worry about this either.
I have a thermometer that cost $1.29 and I'm a betting man, so I'd go with the odds that it's simply wrong.
I've got one of those too. It was made in 1803, and I'll bet that $1.29 it's more accurate then most have been made in the last 30 years. Those olde mercury-in-glass thermometers were and are still considered the gold standard for measurements.
Your back of the napkin familiarity on the subject matter in an age of scientific hyper specialization makes any opinion you have on the matter totally moot.
Strange, I've read scientific papers who argued in favor of phrenology and eugenics, and the detractors using the same language against critics.
Easy. Because device drivers can include bugs in bleeding edge releases especially for new games and hardware. An example you're running solid on say the 6mo old nvidia or AMD video drivers, a new game comes out. The new drivers are "optimized" for that game. So, windows decides to install those new drivers and breaks all your old games in the process. Because there were fundamental changes in the drivers. Now you get to have the fun and enjoyable part where you: Uninstall the driver, run the special MS 'deferment' upgrade for the driver they have in the standard release channel. Then install the old driver that was working fine, but shaved off a few FPS for that new game. It gets even worse when Windows will install an older driver over top of a new one. One of my friends had a problem where Windows 10 would install the 15.6 or 15.6 AMD catalyst drivers over top of the 16.xx drivers on every update and not even their "deferment tool" would stop it from happening.
The real problem is that windows has been able to botch driver upgrades since ye olde days of windows 98 and the first gen of PnP(or plug and pray as it used to be called) and brick a windows install to the point where a format and wipe is the only solution. That's either the problem of the hardware manufacture, or something going wrong with windows. That's not even touching on the clusterfucks with minor hardware revisions from companies like Realtek(most motherboards use their chipsets for audio or network connections). And one driver release can work, and another completely breaks the device to the point where you need to remove every single backup instance as well.
How long has the Industrial Age been going on?
Just shy of 370 years if you want to be conservative about it, if you don't closer to 450 years.
It's the current rate of change that scares scientists. Not the amount. The Earth can handle temperatures raising or dropping over millennia, but over mere decades, it's considered a catastrophe.
Except of course if you look at those same diagrams that are routinely used to show temperature swings, the current warming trend in most cases isn't just within the norms, in many cases it's below those "extremes." Seriously though, coastal ecosystems seem to do just fine. The shore lines in some cases were 12-30mi further out then they are today, and were able to adjust and swing in less then 150 years when those sea levels rose as the last ice age started ending.
They're better off picking up a trade. At least then in 5 years, they won't have to worry about their job being outsourced.
Just use your hardware firewall to blot it from connecting to the net.
That only works if it's connected by a hardline. If everything is wifi, you only need to drive by and exploit the connection. Hell Bell Canada ships their modem-router combo's using WEP as the default, in some cases the house and street name are the default passwords. Blocking at the router level doesn't mean anything.
$20 says you leave the city, smell the smells of the country(shit, piss and rot), and go EWWW it stinks.
Well, nothing sets off my Nerd Alert like spotting someone sorting a smartwatch from previous decades.
I dunno, it sets off my "Hipster Alarm." It's usually triggered by shrill whining, and an attempt at 70's and 80's lingo which they don't grasp. Oh and polyester...
Really, get yourself away from all that particulate stuff.
The radon is likely going to do me more damage then the particulates. This is true of most people in Canada.
It's not the "breakout" option, that's the real reason it's banned. It's because the vehicle windshield and other glass windows are a component of the energy absorption system in a crash. A glass that's too ridged will transfer it's energy in a crash which can cause serious injuries, one that's too soft will absorb too much will do the same. Both are bad scenario's in a serious crash, it's why what we have now works so well.
Moral of the story? don't buy a house next to a freeway or, corollary, by a busy street.
Good advice, but then again if you've lived near such all your life? You'll probably miss the sounds/noise. I live within 300m of the 401(busiest highway in north america), the noise doesn't bother me. When I go traveling, and have to rent motels/hotel/etc rooms, I try to aim for places that are within the same distance of the nearest big highway. I find it completely relaxing, same with when I was a kid. Round that out that I've either lived right on, or within 250m of one of the busiest rail lines in Ontario(CN main trunk) all my life as well? Even those 5min long, chugging diesels? You learn to ignore it, or wonder why you don't hear it. Odd thing is, when I was growing up you could always tell there was warmer weather coming, because the sound would be much clearer(winds from the south). It's kinda stuck with me over the last 30 years.
The dust though? Almost 100% in the last 20 years from tires or diesel particulate. Brakes have been semi-metalic or made from ceramics for over a decade as well. It actually used to be worse when brakes were metallic(asbestos), I was doing my apprenticeship when they were just about to phase out to semi. But if you think that dust is bad? You've never lived near an open pit mine, that's dust. Lived near a few in my day, one near Beachville, Ontario(used to be the largest open pit lime mine in the world). And near the open pit coal mines in Grande Cache, Alberta. The amount of dust you'd see in most places in a month? Easily a day, sometimes half a day if the wind was blowing right.
Plenty of other things charged users for things during the previous dotcom boom. Almost all of them had some form of revenue stream besides VC injections. Almost all of them followed the laws in the countries they operated in. The difference as you pointed out correctly though, is that Uber believes the law doesn't apply to them. Which of course has led them to multiple criminal and civil cases being filed against them.
Brilliant, you have discovered the world is complicated. Any other wisps of wisdom fizzing around in your head?
Did you ever learn the parable "The Boy who cried wolf?" No? Time to learn the stuff that most people did back before Dr. Spock got his hands on child-rearing.
Ermmmmm. I'm pretty sure these guys aren't being labeled deniers.
These guys aren't. However, quite often when anyone who questions the orthodoxy? Quite often they are. Never notice it? That's okay. People who were in charge of the Catholic Church didn't notice it either when Martin Luther nailed his proclamation to the door either.
Thanks for helping point out just how absurd the deniers are. Well done!
Gee, so you're saying that 40+ years of the sky is falling, it's cooling, it's warming, no wait it's cooling. Wait a sec it's warming, that warming is going to cause the end of all life we know it. Storms are going to be more frequent, and worse. No wait, they're going to be less frequent and less severe. No wait, they're going to be less frequent and more severe. That's been pushed by: Academia, media, environmentalists, mouth pieces, flappyheaded gravy train riders. Hasn't caused any problems at all.
Good job. Sure explains why there's such a backlash against the left, academia, the media and so on. Nope, gotta double down it can't be *our fault* for decades of extravagant lies and feel-good politics that does absolutely nothing. While standing in the way of things like nuclear power, protecting a minnow in a hydro-electric project, and requiring 200 environmental impact studies to go through a swamp to put in a road for a remote community.
Everyone wants to invest in the next Google early. Uber could potentially be huge, especially with a fleet of driveless cars.
Uber is around 10 years too early. Just like many of the very first automakers, they're at the cutting edge and it will likely fail. Other companies will pick up from where they left off. But the people investing in Uber and driving up the valuation are VC's hoping that they'll get their initial buy-in back before the company goes tits up. Uber's potential is exactly the same as many dotcom companies, lots of flash no actual plan. It's the same reason why if Uber hadn't gotten an infusion of cash from the Chinese buy-in last year, their last quarterly loss would have been $4B-7B. FYI GM and Chrysler were on the verge of bankruptcy with billions in solid and liquid assets in the span of 3 fiscal quarters, Uber doesn't even have that.
Why can't we have a slow minor correction? Where over valued companies slow down and stop growing.
People tried, and people warned that's what needed to happen back in 2008/09. When the economy was shit in 08/09 that would have been the perfect time. You know what the response was? We're gonna dump money into the market, turn on the printing presses and go like mad at it. Austerity? Real austerity? Hah. Nope, that's what it was called it was anything but.
If you disagree with the method used for correction of the valitidy of the bias claims, then attack those on their merits.
People have. They're labeled "deniers" and then told by the ivory tower elitists that they're "backwards rednecks." That does wonders to ensure that people will actually listen now doesn't it? It's just like the 15 odd years of the progressive left screaming that anyone who's for immigration law enforcement are racists. Or that anyone deviating from orthodoxy and Obama's policies are automatically a racist. Or demand that people who rape children in child grooming gangs are charged as rapists, and the law enforced. Instead the politicians pussyfoot around it for fear of being labeled racists, so do the police, so do crown offices and so on.
The left and academia dug their own fucking pit on this, people warned them. They doubled down, now they get to reap the rewards of it.