Umm.. no.. they aren't greedy as fuck. Wow, the temerity to ask for compensation while working on a product! Also, the main developer was practically homeless at one point. So pardon if he's trying to make a living on doing something he's passionate about. I've met the entire Elementary team personally and they work quite hard. So kindly keep your judgmental comments to yourself.
I'm out of work, and I saved for a rainy day, so I'm okay for a couple of years. But to say that I created my circumstances is bullshit. I got laid off because someone above put together some data points and ran some database queries and then executed. They bypassed the entire management chain and laid people off. So no, I don't think I created my circumstances, someone else did. I only had the wisdom to not trust a company and made sure that I saved for such an event.
He should replace them with CEOs from companies! After all they have a track record of winning and what are these top brass? Just a bunch of old hacks living off the government dole. Leaches.
He wasn't senile, he had Alzheimer's. They probably liked first term Reagan more than second term Reagan.. Hey, he made friends with Gorbachev in the second.. I wonder how that went down with the neocons. (they are the same fucking neocons of today.. thanks, Nixon)
It works because conservatives are the biggest bunch of suckers you'll ever find. So entrenched as a group into their own beliefs that the media (e.g. 24 hour news), conservative politicians, and christian "family groups" find all kinds of great ways to extract money from their wallet. Our entire political process is funded by conservative men and women who are ruled by fear, uncertainty, and doubt and thus everything is wired that way.
It will be interesting what happens when the baby boomers become less and less prominent and how things will be wired then.
add: to be sure some of that is on the democratic side, but it's mostly again geared towards older folks than anything else.. just the flip side of the coin.
It doesn't help that congress has been steadily removing funding from universities all in the name of fiscal responsibility or some crap like that. If employers want people with accredited education, they need to be taxed appropriately and help pay for college so that it is actually within reach. The plan instead though is to throw up their hands and say we are not getting hwat we want, and let's get some H1Bs instead! The whole thing is one big scam, and we Americans are being screwed over.
Not quite, smallpox still exists in laboratories. So it is still there. But you realize that small pox was defeated because of a completely natural phenomena of inoculating yourself with chicken pox.
What? Nobody is talking about eugenics on third world countries. That is a complete opposite of what I was advocating. In any case, yes, the U.S. definitely needs to cut down on its emissions and take responsibility for its actions. I'm all for doing that and will vote for that. Now if we can get a non-crazy congress, we might actually achieve it.
Nature is basically the eco-system, if you fuck up the environment, your food sources change, if you can't adapt to that, you die. It just reacts to whatever you're doing. You fight bacteria, then bacteria finds a way to survive by turning into something that is harder to fight. That's how it works. Eventually, keeping a large population is going to be unsustainable, because there isn't enough food or resources. Disease, pestilence, and war will keep the population under control at that point.
We protect nature so that we can survive as a species. If you remove man biting mosquitoes something might take over, or there might be some mosquitoes that are able to survive and then mutate into something worse. Don't fuck with nature, man. That's all I'm saying.
I don't think we should be playing God and deciding who and what species deserve to be around.
Deciding people should die for the sake of preserving mosquitoes is also playing God. Once the possibility exists, you can't avoid deciding.
I'm sorry, I don't see how that is playing God. You're literally letting nature take its course here. If you want to do something about it, then you need to have a social plan. Don't think that messing around with eco-logical systems is going to solve the problem. It will likely have unintended consequences. You need to work within the working system. Also, really - 'deciding people should die for sake of preserving mosquitoes' was never my position. You created a straw man, and then attacked it.
It is quite probable that nature itself is trying to curb our own population growth in some manner.
The closest this planet has to a nervous system is our society. Nature isn't trying to limit us any more than your body is trying to limit you. Some choices might have less than optimal outcomes, but that's no different from you getting a hangover: it's not that your body is trying to stop you from drinking, it's that it's not working well do to your actions.
If you wish to mystify this, then karma is a better framework than vengeful nature deity.
You talk about society like it is some single monolithic entity. And seriously, comparing the situation with all its complexity to a simplistic "like a hangover" doesn't make any sense to me. It's nothing like the feedback loop of a hangover.
I don't think we should be playing God and deciding who and what species deserve to be around. This seems like the beginning of a bad precedent. It is also extreme laziness. We know what causes and breeds mosquitoes. You should be working on a plan to eliminate the conditions that causes mosquitoes to breed in human population centers. More than that, mosquitoes are just convenient way for zika virus to get passed around. That doesn't mean there isn't any number of paths for pathogens to find their way to human hosts. Are we going to eliminate every species that can be a carrier?
Perhaps we should try to understand how zika was created. As always, our modern world will beget new species of viruses as a reaction to the things humans are doing. We are finding ways to fight viruses and they are mutating and finding ways to get back at us. It is quite probable that nature itself is trying to curb our own population growth in some manner. Right now, it isn't mosquitoes that is causing eco-logical disasters everywhere. We are
Maybe you haven't been to China, but the smog there is horrific. If they don't do something their human population is going to suffer. Places liek Beijing is not only has always on smog, but they the Gobi desert is sending sand their direction too. So, regardless they have steps to take. And frankly, global warming will also change food sources, and for a such a large nation that will also create a problem. Finally, it's a national security issue for all countries involved.
EFL is in Tizen because Rasterman is employed by Samsung and so in some ways it is a library they control rather than working with yet another community. Samsung already has a hard time dealing with open source as it is. Android is a google project and they've been slowly replacing everything with their own stuff. They are even coming up with their own kernel if recent news is to be believed. So I don't think android is a good example.
I think you're living in your own bubble, there are plenty of users who continue to use both desktops and the others as well. Also, 'listening to users wants' what does that mean, each user has a different set of wants from someone else sometimes those wants are in conflict because everybody uses their computer in different ways, even technical people. Just look at the diversity of fvwmrc configs anything else. No project can hope to encapsulate all of those wants in need under a single umbrella while maintaining high quality, bug free experience.
Both GNOME and KDE serve different niches, just because one does one thing differently doesn't mean it is wrong. There is an insidious desire for people to want everyone to conform to some ideal that doesn't exist. It's the same of stupid slogans like "Make America Great Again" or some other empty rhetoric.
I'm not sure why you post anonymously. It is a righteous rant.:-) We are trying to do something about it - http://las.gnome.org/. It's too bad people on slashdot reject designers so assiduously like they were the plague. Basically, this audience are a bunch of technocrats that believe the raw interface to the computer is ascendant and that if you can't adapt to it, you don't belong.
Novell and SUSE are sister companies. Secondly, SUSE makes its money on enterprise things like Cloud storage and other things. GNOME is the default on all SUSE's enterprise offerings. Only openSUSE defaults to KDE as it has been traditionally a KDE distro. But in general, there aren't many distros that offer KDE has a default install option.
KDE is an important desktop offering and we should all be supporting them. Not once in this discussion have I heard anybody offering to help or do something about it. Bunch of posturing folks who take but never give back. You should be ashamed of yourselves. If you feel something is broken then get involved and help. This place used to be the center of KDE activism in the bygone ages. Now look at yourselves, wandering off to find some other projects to posture about.
We used to consider that important, we used to brain drain other countries. Now look at us.. stuck in a spiral of trickle down economics. Nobody wants to do anything grand or do any kind of leadership in any field. We're more happy collecting less taxes.
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I don't know, you seem to know all the answers about UI designers. Why don't you explain it to us?
And?? One guy is surviving on the money they get from this. So yeah, I think they are doing the best to encourage people to give money.
Umm.. no.. they aren't greedy as fuck. Wow, the temerity to ask for compensation while working on a product! Also, the main developer was practically homeless at one point. So pardon if he's trying to make a living on doing something he's passionate about. I've met the entire Elementary team personally and they work quite hard. So kindly keep your judgmental comments to yourself.
it's purpose is to bring in Alumni dollars.
I'm out of work, and I saved for a rainy day, so I'm okay for a couple of years. But to say that I created my circumstances is bullshit. I got laid off because someone above put together some data points and ran some database queries and then executed. They bypassed the entire management chain and laid people off. So no, I don't think I created my circumstances, someone else did. I only had the wisdom to not trust a company and made sure that I saved for such an event.
He should replace them with CEOs from companies! After all they have a track record of winning and what are these top brass? Just a bunch of old hacks living off the government dole. Leaches.
He wasn't senile, he had Alzheimer's. They probably liked first term Reagan more than second term Reagan.. Hey, he made friends with Gorbachev in the second.. I wonder how that went down with the neocons. (they are the same fucking neocons of today.. thanks, Nixon)
It works because conservatives are the biggest bunch of suckers you'll ever find. So entrenched as a group into their own beliefs that the media (e.g. 24 hour news), conservative politicians, and christian "family groups" find all kinds of great ways to extract money from their wallet. Our entire political process is funded by conservative men and women who are ruled by fear, uncertainty, and doubt and thus everything is wired that way.
It will be interesting what happens when the baby boomers become less and less prominent and how things will be wired then.
add: to be sure some of that is on the democratic side, but it's mostly again geared towards older folks than anything else.. just the flip side of the coin.
It doesn't help that congress has been steadily removing funding from universities all in the name of fiscal responsibility or some crap like that. If employers want people with accredited education, they need to be taxed appropriately and help pay for college so that it is actually within reach. The plan instead though is to throw up their hands and say we are not getting hwat we want, and let's get some H1Bs instead! The whole thing is one big scam, and we Americans are being screwed over.
Not quite, smallpox still exists in laboratories. So it is still there. But you realize that small pox was defeated because of a completely natural phenomena of inoculating yourself with chicken pox.
I have no idea what you're talking about. You're comparing killing off a species to personal hygiene? Let's just let that sink in a bit.
What? Nobody is talking about eugenics on third world countries. That is a complete opposite of what I was advocating. In any case, yes, the U.S. definitely needs to cut down on its emissions and take responsibility for its actions. I'm all for doing that and will vote for that. Now if we can get a non-crazy congress, we might actually achieve it.
Nature is basically the eco-system, if you fuck up the environment, your food sources change, if you can't adapt to that, you die. It just reacts to whatever you're doing. You fight bacteria, then bacteria finds a way to survive by turning into something that is harder to fight. That's how it works. Eventually, keeping a large population is going to be unsustainable, because there isn't enough food or resources. Disease, pestilence, and war will keep the population under control at that point.
We protect nature so that we can survive as a species. If you remove man biting mosquitoes something might take over, or there might be some mosquitoes that are able to survive and then mutate into something worse. Don't fuck with nature, man. That's all I'm saying.
Deciding people should die for the sake of preserving mosquitoes is also playing God. Once the possibility exists, you can't avoid deciding.
The closest this planet has to a nervous system is our society. Nature isn't trying to limit us any more than your body is trying to limit you. Some choices might have less than optimal outcomes, but that's no different from you getting a hangover: it's not that your body is trying to stop you from drinking, it's that it's not working well do to your actions.
If you wish to mystify this, then karma is a better framework than vengeful nature deity.
You talk about society like it is some single monolithic entity. And seriously, comparing the situation with all its complexity to a simplistic "like a hangover" doesn't make any sense to me. It's nothing like the feedback loop of a hangover.
I don't think we should be playing God and deciding who and what species deserve to be around. This seems like the beginning of a bad precedent. It is also extreme laziness. We know what causes and breeds mosquitoes. You should be working on a plan to eliminate the conditions that causes mosquitoes to breed in human population centers. More than that, mosquitoes are just convenient way for zika virus to get passed around. That doesn't mean there isn't any number of paths for pathogens to find their way to human hosts. Are we going to eliminate every species that can be a carrier?
Perhaps we should try to understand how zika was created. As always, our modern world will beget new species of viruses as a reaction to the things humans are doing. We are finding ways to fight viruses and they are mutating and finding ways to get back at us. It is quite probable that nature itself is trying to curb our own population growth in some manner. Right now, it isn't mosquitoes that is causing eco-logical disasters everywhere. We are
Maybe you haven't been to China, but the smog there is horrific. If they don't do something their human population is going to suffer. Places liek Beijing is not only has always on smog, but they the Gobi desert is sending sand their direction too. So, regardless they have steps to take. And frankly, global warming will also change food sources, and for a such a large nation that will also create a problem. Finally, it's a national security issue for all countries involved.
EFL is in Tizen because Rasterman is employed by Samsung and so in some ways it is a library they control rather than working with yet another community. Samsung already has a hard time dealing with open source as it is. Android is a google project and they've been slowly replacing everything with their own stuff. They are even coming up with their own kernel if recent news is to be believed. So I don't think android is a good example.
I think you're living in your own bubble, there are plenty of users who continue to use both desktops and the others as well. Also, 'listening to users wants' what does that mean, each user has a different set of wants from someone else sometimes those wants are in conflict because everybody uses their computer in different ways, even technical people. Just look at the diversity of fvwmrc configs anything else. No project can hope to encapsulate all of those wants in need under a single umbrella while maintaining high quality, bug free experience.
Both GNOME and KDE serve different niches, just because one does one thing differently doesn't mean it is wrong. There is an insidious desire for people to want everyone to conform to some ideal that doesn't exist. It's the same of stupid slogans like "Make America Great Again" or some other empty rhetoric.
I'm not sure why you post anonymously. It is a righteous rant. :-) We are trying to do something about it - http://las.gnome.org/. It's too bad people on slashdot reject designers so assiduously like they were the plague. Basically, this audience are a bunch of technocrats that believe the raw interface to the computer is ascendant and that if you can't adapt to it, you don't belong.
Novell and SUSE are sister companies. Secondly, SUSE makes its money on enterprise things like Cloud storage and other things. GNOME is the default on all SUSE's enterprise offerings. Only openSUSE defaults to KDE as it has been traditionally a KDE distro. But in general, there aren't many distros that offer KDE has a default install option.
KDE is an important desktop offering and we should all be supporting them. Not once in this discussion have I heard anybody offering to help or do something about it. Bunch of posturing folks who take but never give back. You should be ashamed of yourselves. If you feel something is broken then get involved and help. This place used to be the center of KDE activism in the bygone ages. Now look at yourselves, wandering off to find some other projects to posture about.
Well, that's why there is a conference exactly building that - http://las.gnome.org/ We still move forward.
Uh, it's the default in pretty most distributions. I would say that is a win.
Wait.. which desktops are we talking about? GNOME and KDE are still active.. ?
You seem to be in need of a hug. Here you go - *HUG*
We used to consider that important, we used to brain drain other countries. Now look at us.. stuck in a spiral of trickle down economics. Nobody wants to do anything grand or do any kind of leadership in any field. We're more happy collecting less taxes.