These people are selling your product for you. In other words, you're suing your own salesmen! I can't think of a more stupid strategy for any business.
okay. i agree with you and admit my mistake of diction. i was using gratuitous in a different way, which seems not to be the canonical definition. nevertheless, i like my way, i think it is good, and i will continue to use it it in the non-canonical way.
i would define my use of the word: not required, but for the sake of providing kindness, recognition, or other pleasantry. that captures the significance of the latin root or roots, which mean something given for free, something which pleases the recipient ("gift"), etc. i think that is a fair stretch for the canonical definition, and does capture the essence of "e.g."
touche with the periods and punctuation, which are bad-english liberties i often take in my own writing, and even though it is a valid complaint, i often see i.e. and e.g. given without periods, especially when set off with parentheses and commans (eg, in this sentence). in my grandparent post, i set them off with quotes.
but i disagree with your complaint about my translation of e.g., which my dictionary gives as literally 'for the sake of example', and i think is fairly translated 'gratuitous example', and example given to make something more clear; when i translated i.e. i specified it was a literal translation, but i purposely did not make that specification for e.g., because i wanted to give my own translation, which helpfully provides an English backronym.
yay grammar! or as i've seen it said, yay grammer!
The poster uses "ie" to list inappropriate content for airplanes, but he is mistaken: instead, he wants "eg". "Ie" introduces an exhaustive list, or restates the category completely, whereas "eg" provides examples within the category. So, he gives the category as inappropriate content, and lists three possible types of inappropriate content, so he should use "eg".
The latin phrase for "eg" is "exempli gratia", or, in English, "gratuitous example", which is to say, an example which helps explain the intent of the sentence.
The latin phrase for "ie" is "id est", or, in English, literally "that is", which means you are restating the thing to make the intent clear.
I don't really blame the poster, who might not care about this distinction, a common mistake amongst Americans, but the Slashdot editors sure as hell should care, being that they are paid to provide that service. That's an old complaint, though, and it's fairly clear the editors don't care either.
it's popular to say that schools are underfunded, and maybe they are, but the fact is that putting more money into schools does not result in better school or better-educated students. well, okay i haven't done the research myself, but research (studies) i have seen show that a crappy school where you give them more money only results in a better-funded crappy school.
i don't know what the solution is, but throwing money at the problem isn't good enough.
when i read this comment i looked at the moderation expection to find +5 Funny, but instead i found +4 Informative. i really hope you intended it to be funny, not informative.
i don't have mod points or i would mod it -1 Not Informative At All. if you get all your policy information from one source, you are only a hair more informed than someone who acquires no policy information at all.
i love your plan, but instead of GMT, please use my personal local time. i mean, right now i live in Juneau, Alaska, so please use that as your time, wherever you live. i'll let you know if i move, so you can change your clocks.
Wow. I had never heard of a till tap so I wiki'd it. Surprisingly, there is no wiki for till taps. So I googled it and came up with this page, which is pretty informative, and offers even more tips than you had: http://www.scacadvice.com/pages/collecting.htm#P62 0_53608
I am not Mr. Beard, but I hope his answer to this question is that Firefox 1.0 continues to exist, and still runs just fine, and if that's the version of Firefox that you like the best, then it is silly for you to use 2.0. Whatever version has the features you want, you can use that version. And, of course, a team could even make a stripped-down branch of the browser, too.
I have that multitouch keyboard (Fingerworks TouchStream) and I'm typing this sentence on it right now. It may be difficult for you to understand without ever having tried it, but this keyboard absolutely does help with RSI. The hardness of the surface doesn't even enter into the question -- the keycaps on your keyboard are hard, aren't they? -- the important part is how hard you have to press the key to generate the keystroke, which is essentially zero on this keyboard, far less than even light-touch traditional keyboards. On this keyboard you barely, lightly touch the surface to type a key, hardly hard enough even to hear your finger touch the surface.
Furthermore, the gestures on the keyboard are in fact very natural, certainly at least as natural and unforgettable as learning keyboard shortcuts. There are dozens of gestures, and all the easy ones can be learned in a mere minutes because they are intelligently designed, so that similar operations have similar gestures (eg copy paste cut).
I can't speak for the whole world, but this keyboard definitely revolutionlized how I use computers. Unfortunately the company is now out of business, their technology reportedly purchased by Apple, which of course will sit on it and never use it. Some people have claimed that the Mac's new two-finger scrolling on the touch pads is due to this technology, but if that's true then it's a sad trivialization of the potential of the tech. And frankly, my keyboard is a limited implementation of the overall multitouch gesture idea.
Yeah, but that's okay. It's also okay if only a tiny fraction of people bother to own guns, or bother to vote, or bother to look up their congressman's financial records, or go to national parks, or care about snowy owls, or whatever. It's very common in free societies that we preserve freedoms which only a few people take advantage of, or even care about. That doesn't make the thing unimportant.
And don't be so shallow about those 99 percent of Indians. I bet just as much as they care about getting the software for free, they care about being about to futz around with it. Hell, anyone can pirate (for example) Windows, but Indian companies arne't making lots of money by offering their own versions of Windows. So, the freedom is also on their mind.
Heh. Yeah, I am absolutely the egregious grammar nazi you hate. I'm not exactly proud of it, I just can't help it. I give wide allowance for creative intelligent use of grammar, punctuation, and even spelling, but I think I can tell the difference between creativity and carelessness or idiocy, and the latter bothers me a lot.
Don't get me started on the difference between "less" and "fewer", or "as" and "so".
"The entire works of Charles Darwin have been made available online.... The University of Cambridge hopes to have this completed by 2009 and is only estimated to be about half way done."
Whoever wrote that paragraph either doesn't understand verb tenses, doesn't understand the concept of completeness, or doesn't care to compose himself clearly. I proffer changing the verb phrase to will be made available or is being made availble.
How can Washington demand that Pyongyang refrain from developing nuclear weapons when Washington enthusiastically ignores Indian nuclear ambitions?
If by "how" you mean "for what reason", then the answer is because India is a stable democracy and North Korea isn't. We believe that stable democracies should get more leeway than -- well, than everyone else, especially communists, fascists, dictators and warlords. Sometimes this is a judgement call. But basically, what we're saying is that the same restrictions don't always apply to everyone, and shouldn't.
i'm glad we agree, and thank you for making my point: "my little diesel" is exactly the sense i was going for. you might get something similar from a car which normally runs on gasoline, but comes as an optional diesel, and you would "dub" it "diesel" to draw attention to that point. maybe something like referring to your Dodge truck as a Cummins Power Diesel.
in fact, all of these examples are examples of synecdoche, which is another, more specific, way to refer to a thing by another name.
as i just said to another interlocutor, when i have written software with multiple versions, we would often refer to the current version by its version number, "dubbing" it that version number, eg to say "hey, Mark, i wrapped up 2.0 today" is to dub our software "2.0".
Hmmm. References for what information? About 'beta' being used for marketing? I've seen 'beta' often used to generate new interest in an existing product, by (ahem) dubbing it a "beta" a company can focus attention on the new features. Mac OS X and Windows both did this for renewed interest in those existing products, Gmail and Google News did it when they were new, but they stayed in beta forever and ever... we've all seen it a handful of places.
I like to argue minutae too. That's all we're doing.
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These people are selling your product for you. In other words, you're suing your own salesmen!
I can't think of a more stupid strategy for any business.
Sure you can: suing your actual customers.
okay. i agree with you and admit my mistake of diction. i was using gratuitous in a different way, which seems not to be the canonical definition. nevertheless, i like my way, i think it is good, and i will continue to use it it in the non-canonical way.
i would define my use of the word: not required, but for the sake of providing kindness, recognition, or other pleasantry. that captures the significance of the latin root or roots, which mean something given for free, something which pleases the recipient ("gift"), etc. i think that is a fair stretch for the canonical definition, and does capture the essence of "e.g."
touche with the periods and punctuation, which are bad-english liberties i often take in my own writing, and even though it is a valid complaint, i often see i.e. and e.g. given without periods, especially when set off with parentheses and commans (eg, in this sentence). in my grandparent post, i set them off with quotes.
but i disagree with your complaint about my translation of e.g., which my dictionary gives as literally 'for the sake of example', and i think is fairly translated 'gratuitous example', and example given to make something more clear; when i translated i.e. i specified it was a literal translation, but i purposely did not make that specification for e.g., because i wanted to give my own translation, which helpfully provides an English backronym.
yay grammar! or as i've seen it said, yay grammer!
limited time? you must be new to slashdot copyright discussions.
The poster uses "ie" to list inappropriate content for airplanes, but he is mistaken: instead, he wants "eg". "Ie" introduces an exhaustive list, or restates the category completely, whereas "eg" provides examples within the category. So, he gives the category as inappropriate content, and lists three possible types of inappropriate content, so he should use "eg".
The latin phrase for "eg" is "exempli gratia", or, in English, "gratuitous example", which is to say, an example which helps explain the intent of the sentence.
The latin phrase for "ie" is "id est", or, in English, literally "that is", which means you are restating the thing to make the intent clear.
I don't really blame the poster, who might not care about this distinction, a common mistake amongst Americans, but the Slashdot editors sure as hell should care, being that they are paid to provide that service. That's an old complaint, though, and it's fairly clear the editors don't care either.
it's popular to say that schools are underfunded, and maybe they are, but the fact is that putting more money into schools does not result in better school or better-educated students. well, okay i haven't done the research myself, but research (studies) i have seen show that a crappy school where you give them more money only results in a better-funded crappy school.
i don't know what the solution is, but throwing money at the problem isn't good enough.
when i read this comment i looked at the moderation expection to find +5 Funny, but instead i found +4 Informative. i really hope you intended it to be funny, not informative.
i don't have mod points or i would mod it -1 Not Informative At All. if you get all your policy information from one source, you are only a hair more informed than someone who acquires no policy information at all.
(that's not to hate on LWV, a fine organization.)
point of order: Duke Nukem 3D was released in 1996. you are probably thinking of Duke Nukem Forever.
i love your plan, but instead of GMT, please use my personal local time. i mean, right now i live in Juneau, Alaska, so please use that as your time, wherever you live. i'll let you know if i move, so you can change your clocks.
Wow. I had never heard of a till tap so I wiki'd it. Surprisingly, there is no wiki for till taps. So I googled it and came up with this page, which is pretty informative, and offers even more tips than you had: http://www.scacadvice.com/pages/collecting.htm#P62 0_53608
did anyone figure out the icing morse code?
I am not Mr. Beard, but I hope his answer to this question is that Firefox 1.0 continues to exist, and still runs just fine, and if that's the version of Firefox that you like the best, then it is silly for you to use 2.0. Whatever version has the features you want, you can use that version. And, of course, a team could even make a stripped-down branch of the browser, too.
I have that multitouch keyboard (Fingerworks TouchStream) and I'm typing this sentence on it right now. It may be difficult for you to understand without ever having tried it, but this keyboard absolutely does help with RSI. The hardness of the surface doesn't even enter into the question -- the keycaps on your keyboard are hard, aren't they? -- the important part is how hard you have to press the key to generate the keystroke, which is essentially zero on this keyboard, far less than even light-touch traditional keyboards. On this keyboard you barely, lightly touch the surface to type a key, hardly hard enough even to hear your finger touch the surface.
Furthermore, the gestures on the keyboard are in fact very natural, certainly at least as natural and unforgettable as learning keyboard shortcuts. There are dozens of gestures, and all the easy ones can be learned in a mere minutes because they are intelligently designed, so that similar operations have similar gestures (eg copy paste cut).
I can't speak for the whole world, but this keyboard definitely revolutionlized how I use computers. Unfortunately the company is now out of business, their technology reportedly purchased by Apple, which of course will sit on it and never use it. Some people have claimed that the Mac's new two-finger scrolling on the touch pads is due to this technology, but if that's true then it's a sad trivialization of the potential of the tech. And frankly, my keyboard is a limited implementation of the overall multitouch gesture idea.
Yeah, but that's okay. It's also okay if only a tiny fraction of people bother to own guns, or bother to vote, or bother to look up their congressman's financial records, or go to national parks, or care about snowy owls, or whatever. It's very common in free societies that we preserve freedoms which only a few people take advantage of, or even care about. That doesn't make the thing unimportant.
And don't be so shallow about those 99 percent of Indians. I bet just as much as they care about getting the software for free, they care about being about to futz around with it. Hell, anyone can pirate (for example) Windows, but Indian companies arne't making lots of money by offering their own versions of Windows. So, the freedom is also on their mind.
really? i see it as a tantamount expression of the freedom of speech.
RMS is a freedom fighter insofar as he fights for freedom, and that doesn't imply it's on the magnatude of political revolution.
Are there ads on the article page? Funny, I didn't see any. I guess my ad filter is working properly.
Heh. Yeah, I am absolutely the egregious grammar nazi you hate. I'm not exactly proud of it, I just can't help it. I give wide allowance for creative intelligent use of grammar, punctuation, and even spelling, but I think I can tell the difference between creativity and carelessness or idiocy, and the latter bothers me a lot.
Don't get me started on the difference between "less" and "fewer", or "as" and "so".
"The entire works of Charles Darwin have been made available online. ... The University of Cambridge hopes to have this completed by 2009 and is only estimated to be about half way done."
Whoever wrote that paragraph either doesn't understand verb tenses, doesn't understand the concept of completeness, or doesn't care to compose himself clearly. I proffer changing the verb phrase to will be made available or is being made availble.
mod parent +5 Informative!
/ -1 Not Funny
who are you going to war with?
dude, that was a fucking brilliant way to get +10 karma instead of just +5. kudos.
How can Washington demand that Pyongyang refrain from developing nuclear weapons when Washington enthusiastically ignores Indian nuclear ambitions?
If by "how" you mean "for what reason", then the answer is because India is a stable democracy and North Korea isn't. We believe that stable democracies should get more leeway than -- well, than everyone else, especially communists, fascists, dictators and warlords. Sometimes this is a judgement call. But basically, what we're saying is that the same restrictions don't always apply to everyone, and shouldn't.
i'm glad we agree, and thank you for making my point: "my little diesel" is exactly the sense i was going for. you might get something similar from a car which normally runs on gasoline, but comes as an optional diesel, and you would "dub" it "diesel" to draw attention to that point. maybe something like referring to your Dodge truck as a Cummins Power Diesel.
in fact, all of these examples are examples of synecdoche, which is another, more specific, way to refer to a thing by another name.
as i just said to another interlocutor, when i have written software with multiple versions, we would often refer to the current version by its version number, "dubbing" it that version number, eg to say "hey, Mark, i wrapped up 2.0 today" is to dub our software "2.0".
i was thinking more like "how is beta coming along?"
when i've done software dev, with multiple versions, we would speak that way. "how is 2.0 progressing?" we were never confused.
Hmmm. References for what information? About 'beta' being used for marketing? I've seen 'beta' often used to generate new interest in an existing product, by (ahem) dubbing it a "beta" a company can focus attention on the new features. Mac OS X and Windows both did this for renewed interest in those existing products, Gmail and Google News did it when they were new, but they stayed in beta forever and ever... we've all seen it a handful of places.
I like to argue minutae too. That's all we're doing.