Haven't tried IE 6. Note the new file not found feature where it sends you to Microsoft. Taco has been pushing Konqueror. I really like these KDE choice features, particularly since they are not motivated by a desire to do in a competitor, and therefore subject to going away when the competitor does.
I'm mainly basing my observations on my recent experiences with dellnet and IE 5.5. I too cannot just use linux, mainly because I like wysiwyg html editing with dreamweaver and drawing with illustrator.
ZDNET has a good article on XP from a number of perspectives, including corporate and consumer. The most telling thing about the article and anyone's experience with recent Microsoft products is the extent to which they constantly try to suck you into:
Spending more money.
Revealing personal information about yourself, so that they can get you to spend more money.
I contrast this with my recent experience installing Redhat 7.2 with KDE on a new system. I started using Konqueror and KMail. I was stunned to find Konqueror recommending to me that I could accept and reject easily whole classes of cookies. Bye-bye doubleclick, bye-bye aol. KMail even will let you refuse at a relatively fine-grained level features of html that may allow people to track you.
Now, those are what I call *consumer* features. Microsoft is not giving me a better consumer experience. They are giving me a better pick-pocket experience.
So, why hasn't the home user stormed to linux (and KDE; maybe gnome and nautilus, but for me the performance with the latter is just not there yet). There may be many reasons. Let me offer what I think is one part of the puzzle. It's a question of ease-of-system install and maintenance. For instance, until the most recent install of redhat, I had always gone through hell getting both gnome and kde to work in a reasonable way. Further, with earlier versions of KDE, the tools were just immature. When I updated, I was frequently told I could not because of incompatibilities that could take a long time to track down (I am an advanced end-user who came to system administration to improve my end-user experience).
I really think redhat and other distros have a case to be made as the true promoters of end-users. With easier to install and maintain distros, they might be able to make a market of this.
Note: I purposely left out the office suite thing. Alot of people just use their home computers for fun and attempt to leave the office at work. Sure, office suites are probably still important. I just wanted to point out something that I don't think many people have seen (or at least exclaimed loudly) the benefit of.
Mozilla is definitely not ready, although it has gotten close. The main issue I see is e-commerce compatibility which is still much better for Netscape 4.78 than any other netscape/mozilla.
Just over a week ago, I attempted to purchase a computer on-line from dell using moz 0.9.5. For some reason (I think having to do with javascript, but possibly also form tags), the browser could not process the interaction with Dell's server. Every time I checked what I had ordered before hitting the final commit, $100 worth of unselected options had been added to the order. Several attempts indicated that I was checking the options I wanted the first time, but when I returned to correct the order, those options were changed. This did not happen with netscape 4.78.
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I really see tabs as an implementation of the channels idea for the masses, putting channels in the user's control. For instance, with the nytimes that auto-refreshes, I can just go check that tab every so often. The New York times sends me auto-refreshing pages, I keep a tab on them and look when I feel like.
Echoing the call for more enhancements, I'd like to see the following:
1. The ability to open and close tab sets, i.e., the ability to look at a bunch of sites that you felt were related and be able to switch between sets (slashdot, lwn, etc. vs CNN, nytimes).
2. The ability to specify tab sets as your startup page or home page.
A possibly simple way to implement this idea would be to put a meta-tag in the bookmarks file that would indicate that a folder was a tab set. Browsers that did not do tab sets could just ignore the tag, keeping the bookmarks file generally useful.
Care to point that one out by Article and Section? I can't find it.
Yes, it's under war-powers in Article 1 and speaks specifically to habeas corpus. There is a debate as to whether only Congress has this authority or whether the executive can exercise it also. In 1861, Lincoln determined that it was in his power to do so while Congress was out of session. Taney (Chief Justice at the time) ruled against it in his Merryman ruling.
Habeas corpus is the specific issue as regards the detention of immigrants.
I read the post here and a number of the comments, all of which pointed out the dangers of tyranny. I should also disclose that the woman speaking about using network analysis to break terrorist networks on NPR today was on my dissertation committee.
While I see the point about tyranny, we are under attack by an enemy who has infiltrated our borders. Several have cited the declaration of indepdendence. There is another document, the Constitution, that allows the executive branch to suspend liberties in time of national emergency (used by Lincoln as a justification for suspending the writ of Haebeus Corpus). Just today, more anthrax cases were discovered. These may be unrelated to the attacks of 9/11, but they still constitute terrorism.
The House is insisting on sunset provisions for these extraordinary powers. It seems these are extraordinary times that require extraordinary measures. With sunset provisions, we can be assured that the extraordinary measures will not overly outlive their intended purpose.
Well, I rushed to download, deleted the 0.9.2 directory at the installers request, and...
the us language regional pack will not install. No more Mozilla at all.
Silly me.
On this same note, I have frequently noted that I cannot download the new installer with the current version of mozilla. I have to use netscape.
It would be nice if the buttons on the boxes had the explanation of what they were show up in the tooltip. It took me a while to realize the explanation was at the bottom of the browser window. By then, I had figured it out myself.
Add a box for Redhat news much like their box for slashdot news. slashdot is really a better portal than redhat.
I eventually succeeded getting my linux install to work, but it took about a week and several restarts. I was working on a dell dimensions pentium ii at 300 Mhz.
The first issue was partitioning the hard drive. I used partition magic and made linux partitions. However, RHL 5.2 did not want to recognize these partitions, so I deleted them. I could then repartition using disk druid.
Next, I could not get X windows to work. The Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro that came with my computer was not supported by XFree86. Attempting to run in VGA mode caused the install to hang. I purchased the Xi Graphics driver, but I then had problems with mixing both XFree86 stuff and XiGraphics stuff (due in part to my own maladroitness). Not knowing how to correct this situation fully, I simply reinstalled everything. That worked. I could run X-windows. Other headaches followed with X-windows but having gotten the hang of rpm and configuration files, I never had to do a complete reinstall to fix them.
Next came ppp. That by itself was a one week trial by fire. I was trying to do it over a 3Com external isdn modem that uses synchronous ppp. The computer is worthless to me without net access. I discovered the rather simple solution was to get the modem to do synchronous/asynchronous translation. One week to discover this 30 second solution.
With some perspective on all of this, I realize that one of the issues is the heterogenous and complex nature of the intel platform. Microsoft has done a reasonably good job of forcing manufacturers to produce drivers, but even they have problems. The other thing is the OEM install. They face these problems with windows but solve them before you see them.
Haven't tried IE 6. Note the new file not found feature where it sends you to Microsoft. Taco has been pushing Konqueror. I really like these KDE choice features, particularly since they are not motivated by a desire to do in a competitor, and therefore subject to going away when the competitor does.
I'm mainly basing my observations on my recent experiences with dellnet and IE 5.5. I too cannot just use linux, mainly because I like wysiwyg html editing with dreamweaver and drawing with illustrator.
Spending more money.
Revealing personal information about yourself, so that they can get you to spend more money.
I contrast this with my recent experience installing Redhat 7.2 with KDE on a new system. I started using Konqueror and KMail. I was stunned to find Konqueror recommending to me that I could accept and reject easily whole classes of cookies. Bye-bye doubleclick, bye-bye aol. KMail even will let you refuse at a relatively fine-grained level features of html that may allow people to track you.
Now, those are what I call *consumer* features. Microsoft is not giving me a better consumer experience. They are giving me a better pick-pocket experience.
So, why hasn't the home user stormed to linux (and KDE; maybe gnome and nautilus, but for me the performance with the latter is just not there yet). There may be many reasons. Let me offer what I think is one part of the puzzle. It's a question of ease-of-system install and maintenance. For instance, until the most recent install of redhat, I had always gone through hell getting both gnome and kde to work in a reasonable way. Further, with earlier versions of KDE, the tools were just immature. When I updated, I was frequently told I could not because of incompatibilities that could take a long time to track down (I am an advanced end-user who came to system administration to improve my end-user experience).
I really think redhat and other distros have a case to be made as the true promoters of end-users. With easier to install and maintain distros, they might be able to make a market of this.
Note: I purposely left out the office suite thing. Alot of people just use their home computers for fun and attempt to leave the office at work. Sure, office suites are probably still important. I just wanted to point out something that I don't think many people have seen (or at least exclaimed loudly) the benefit of.
You might want to send this via email since the post office has been shut down by anthrax.
Mozilla is definitely not ready, although it has gotten close. The main issue I see is e-commerce compatibility which is still much better for Netscape 4.78 than any other netscape/mozilla.
Just over a week ago, I attempted to purchase a computer on-line from dell using moz 0.9.5. For some reason (I think having to do with javascript, but possibly also form tags), the browser could not process the interaction with Dell's server. Every time I checked what I had ordered before hitting the final commit, $100 worth of unselected options had been added to the order. Several attempts indicated that I was checking the options I wanted the first time, but when I returned to correct the order, those options were changed. This did not happen with netscape 4.78.
I really see tabs as an implementation of the channels idea for the masses, putting channels in the user's control. For instance, with the nytimes that auto-refreshes, I can just go check that tab every so often. The New York times sends me auto-refreshing pages, I keep a tab on them and look when I feel like.
Echoing the call for more enhancements, I'd like to see the following:
1. The ability to open and close tab sets, i.e., the ability to look at a bunch of sites that you felt were related and be able to switch between sets (slashdot, lwn, etc. vs CNN, nytimes).
2. The ability to specify tab sets as your startup page or home page.
A possibly simple way to implement this idea would be to put a meta-tag in the bookmarks file that would indicate that a folder was a tab set. Browsers that did not do tab sets could just ignore the tag, keeping the bookmarks file generally useful.
Care to point that one out by Article and Section? I can't find it.
Yes, it's under war-powers in Article 1 and speaks specifically to habeas corpus. There is a debate as to whether only Congress has this authority or whether the executive can exercise it also. In 1861, Lincoln determined that it was in his power to do so while Congress was out of session. Taney (Chief Justice at the time) ruled against it in his Merryman ruling.
Habeas corpus is the specific issue as regards the detention of immigrants.
I read the post here and a number of the comments, all of which pointed out the dangers of tyranny. I should also disclose that the woman speaking about using network analysis to break terrorist networks on NPR today was on my dissertation committee.
While I see the point about tyranny, we are under attack by an enemy who has infiltrated our borders. Several have cited the declaration of indepdendence. There is another document, the Constitution, that allows the executive branch to suspend liberties in time of national emergency (used by Lincoln as a justification for suspending the writ of Haebeus Corpus). Just today, more anthrax cases were discovered. These may be unrelated to the attacks of 9/11, but they still constitute terrorism.
The House is insisting on sunset provisions for these extraordinary powers. It seems these are extraordinary times that require extraordinary measures. With sunset provisions, we can be assured that the extraordinary measures will not overly outlive their intended purpose.
Well, I rushed to download, deleted the 0.9.2 directory at the installers request, and ...
the us language regional pack will not install. No more Mozilla at all.
Silly me.
On this same note, I have frequently noted that I cannot download the new installer with the current version of mozilla. I have to use netscape.
It would be nice if the buttons on the boxes had the explanation of what they were show up in the tooltip. It took me a while to realize the explanation was at the bottom of the browser window. By then, I had figured it out myself.
Add a box for Redhat news much like their box for slashdot news. slashdot is really a better portal than redhat.
Did you use disk druid or the other partition utility? I used disk druid and had the partition recognition problem.
I eventually succeeded getting my linux install to work, but it took about a week and several restarts. I was working on a dell dimensions pentium ii at 300 Mhz.
The first issue was partitioning the hard drive. I used partition magic and made linux partitions. However, RHL 5.2 did not want to recognize these partitions, so I deleted them. I could then repartition using disk druid.
Next, I could not get X windows to work. The Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro that came with my computer was not supported by XFree86. Attempting to run in VGA mode caused the install to hang. I purchased the Xi Graphics driver, but I then had problems with mixing both XFree86 stuff and XiGraphics stuff (due in part to my own maladroitness). Not knowing how to correct this situation fully, I simply reinstalled everything. That worked. I could run X-windows. Other headaches followed with X-windows but having gotten the hang of rpm and configuration files, I never had to do a complete reinstall to fix them.
Next came ppp. That by itself was a one week trial by fire. I was trying to do it over a 3Com external isdn modem that uses synchronous ppp. The computer is worthless to me without net access. I discovered the rather simple solution was to get the modem to do synchronous/asynchronous translation. One week to discover this 30 second solution.
With some perspective on all of this, I realize that one of the issues is the heterogenous and complex nature of the intel platform. Microsoft has done a reasonably good job of forcing manufacturers to produce drivers, but even they have problems. The other thing is the OEM install. They face these problems with windows but solve them before you see them.