I think it would take one hell of a situation to cause the President to send in the Army. I'm not saying it would never happen, I'm saying it would be an extreme circumstance.
The National Guard and the U.S. Army live under very different rules my friend. The NG is controlled by the Governor and CAN be used without invoking martial law. The U.S. Army is controlled by the President and cannot be used with out martial law being invoked. Redneck weekend warriors is most of what I've met as far as NG's go, with very few being former active duty personnel wishing to continue service while living a civilian life.
Oh, that's right, the Brits live under constant surveillance that would never be tolerated here...
Never tolerated here? I'm looking out my window at cameras recording the movement of vehicles. I have the patriot act in one of the tabs open while reading this article. I drove passed an AT&T facility everyday to my father's house, a facility that was utilized for the tapping and storage of private phone conversations. You have got to be joking...
We vets do speak out. Those still in uniform have to be incredibly careful of what they say in critique of the government. It's against the law for them to do so.
On 30 August, the Secretary General of NATO announced the start of airstrikes, supported by UNPROFOR rapid reaction force artillery attacks.[15] Although planned and approved by the North Atlantic Council in July 1995, the operation was triggered in direct response to the second wave of Markale massacres on 28 August 1995.
During the campaign, a total of 3515 sorties were flown against 338 individual targets. The aircraft involved in the campaign operated from Aviano Air Base, Italy, and from the U.S. aircraft carriers USS Theodore Roosevelt and USS America. Sixty-eight percent (68%) of the ordnance used in this campaign were precision-guided munitions. The VRS integrated air defence network, comprising aircraft and surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), presented a high-threat environment to the allied air operations.
The German Luftwaffe saw action for first time since 1945 during Operation Deliberate Force.[16] Six interdictor-strike (IDS) version Tornados, equipped with infrared recce devices and escorted by 8 ECR Tornados, pinpointed Serb targets for NATO's artillery units around Sarajevo.[17][18] The artillery group was part of a Rapid Reaction Force deployed on Mount Igman to support the task of NATO's aircraft by pounding Serb artillery positions.[19] The Force was commanded by British Lieutenant General Dick Applegate.[20]
On 30 August 1995, a French Mirage 2000 was shot down by a Serbian shoulder-fired SAM near Pale.[21]
On 1 September 1995, NATO and UN demanded the lifting of the Serb's Siege of Sarajevo, removal of heavy weapons from the heavy weapons exclusion zone around Sarajevo, and complete security of other UN safe areas. NATO stopped the air raids and gave an ultimatum to Bosnian Serb leaders. The deadline was set as 4 September.
On 5 September 1995, NATO resumed air attacks on Bosnian Serb positions around Sarajevo and near the Bosnian Serb headquarters at Pale after the Bosnian Serbs failed to comply with UN demands to lift heavy weapons around Sarajevo.
On the night of 10 September 1995, the Ticonderoga class cruiser USS Normandy launched a Tomahawk missile strike from the central Adriatic Sea against a key air defense radio relay tower at Lisina, near Banja Luka, while U.S. Air Force F-15E and U.S. Navy F/A-18 fighter-bombers hit the same targets with about a dozen precision-guided bombs, and F-16 jets attacked with Maverick missiles.[22][23]
On 14 September 1995, NATO air strikes were suspended to allow the implementation of an agreement with Bosnian Serbs, to include the withdrawal of heavy weapons from the Sarajevo exclusion zone. The initial 72 hour suspension was eventually extended to 114 hours.
Finally on 20 September 1995, General Bernard Janvier (Commander, UNPF) and Admiral Leighton W. Smith, Jr. (CINCSOUTH) agreed that resumption of air strikes of Operation Deliberate Force was not necessary as Bosnian Serbs had complied with the conditions set out by the UN and as a result the operation was terminated.[24]
The air campaign was key to pressure on Miloevi’s Yugoslavia to take part in negotiations that resulted in the Dayton Peace Agreement reached in November 1995.[25]
In December 1995, NATO dispatched 60,000 peacekeeping force into Bosnia as part of the IFOR to enforce the Dayton Peace Agreement to secure peace and prevent renewed hostilities between three warring factions. In December 1996, the NATO-led SFOR was established to replace the IFOR to enforce the Dayton Peace Agreement. This lasted up until December 2004 when the NATO-led SFOR is replaced by the EUFOR Althea.
You should read your own links. The Secretary General was a Belgian. France, Germany, U.S., Italy, India, Sweden, Canada and Great Britain.
You're probably referring to H.R. 4655 which was signed to help try to remove a ruthless dictator from power. The U.S. and Britain did the bombing over 4 days because Saddam refused to follow UN resolutions.
Clinton did increase the budget... he increased it to modernize the U.S. military with these new fangled computers that had becom
That's assuming the military goes along with it. Having been in the military myself, and having family still in, I can tell you know that there are no orders issued by any commanding officer that would cause them to open fire on U.S. citizens unless their own lives were in imminent danger.
as opposed to the 2.exe's i clicked to root my HTC HD2. I'd rather not have to putz around editing registries when I don't have to. Though my skill level provides me the knowledge to do so, time is something I do not care to waste.
Phone reps aren't stupid, atleast not any more stupid than any other sales reps. They push what they know they can sell and they can sell iPhones and Android phones. If a rep tries to push WP phones on me, first question is, "Is it rootable?". "Can I install Android on it?" if no, then move along.
Blame everyone but yourselves for making phones that are NOT feature rich and running a shitty OS. My phone was a native WP 6.5 phone. It now has WP 6.5 (never use), WP 7 (never use), 3 builds of Android and 1 build of Ubuntu.... Oh and it's an HTC. I used to be a huge Nokia fan form back in the day when I sold them, but now...get with the program folks.
Phones should be like build your own pc's. You sell me the hardware, I choose which OS I want on it. In the end, that's how it's going to be for me and one of the major reasons I have not upgraded in 2 years.
Don't get me wrong, I am of the opinion that the government is in the wrong here. I merely pointed out an inaccuracy in an analogy. This is commonplace here you know...
I fight for my rights, I don't see many that do. I wore a uniform, I shipped overseas, I operated on behalf of our government thinking that I was defending the rights of U.S. citizens. Today i fight with my signature, my vote and my sway with others. The U.S. government or any government can come after me and try to take my rights, but they won't get them without a fight.
I don't disagree. However, the argument for a suit lies in the FBI deleting the files, which they haven't and can't. They are only limiting access to and removing the ability to pay for the upkeep. their reasoning would be that legit users would have to file suit against mega* to get reparations.
Can't sue unless the government says you can. Remember, the FTCA does not cover everything involved here. Also, the FBI isn't deleting anything. They removed access for users, as well as seized the accounts used to pay the bills to the server companies. It would be Carpathia and Cogent doing the deletion due to the bills not being paid.
not quite. Its like the FBI seizing all units of a storage facility where the storage facility itself is believed to be storing illegal materials on the premises. The case about them isn't about users storing illegal materials, its about them knowingly allowing it, hindering the ability for the rights holders to remove it and building their entire business based on those illegal materials.
public votes. Senate / Reps propose the bills, the citizenry votes. This would have to have some heavy legislation behind it so that idiots aren't swindled into thinking something is good for them.
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I think it would take one hell of a situation to cause the President to send in the Army. I'm not saying it would never happen, I'm saying it would be an extreme circumstance.
Nice, maybe I will consider it when this HD2 is too far gone to keep around.
It was used, you are correct. If it happened today, don't you think Hoover would be crucified?
hence my other reply about his literal meaning....
The National Guard and the U.S. Army live under very different rules my friend. The NG is controlled by the Governor and CAN be used without invoking martial law. The U.S. Army is controlled by the President and cannot be used with out martial law being invoked. Redneck weekend warriors is most of what I've met as far as NG's go, with very few being former active duty personnel wishing to continue service while living a civilian life.
Only if it means covering a city in the blood of newborn babies. It's all for the children afterall.
Oh, that's right, the Brits live under constant surveillance that would never be tolerated here...
Never tolerated here? I'm looking out my window at cameras recording the movement of vehicles. I have the patriot act in one of the tabs open while reading this article. I drove passed an AT&T facility everyday to my father's house, a facility that was utilized for the tapping and storage of private phone conversations. You have got to be joking...
we still owe you for 1812... your time is coming foul swine!
Wait, did they rename Twitter?
We vets do speak out. Those still in uniform have to be incredibly careful of what they say in critique of the government. It's against the law for them to do so.
Erm, Ron Paul would just rather outsource your freedoms and the defense thereof to private corporations. Do you welcome our new corporate overlords?
difference of a slow acting, possibly curable poison vs a .45 to the face. One is just a bit slower than the other in eliminating our rights.
On 30 August, the Secretary General of NATO announced the start of airstrikes, supported by UNPROFOR rapid reaction force artillery attacks.[15] Although planned and approved by the North Atlantic Council in July 1995, the operation was triggered in direct response to the second wave of Markale massacres on 28 August 1995. During the campaign, a total of 3515 sorties were flown against 338 individual targets. The aircraft involved in the campaign operated from Aviano Air Base, Italy, and from the U.S. aircraft carriers USS Theodore Roosevelt and USS America. Sixty-eight percent (68%) of the ordnance used in this campaign were precision-guided munitions. The VRS integrated air defence network, comprising aircraft and surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), presented a high-threat environment to the allied air operations. The German Luftwaffe saw action for first time since 1945 during Operation Deliberate Force.[16] Six interdictor-strike (IDS) version Tornados, equipped with infrared recce devices and escorted by 8 ECR Tornados, pinpointed Serb targets for NATO's artillery units around Sarajevo.[17][18] The artillery group was part of a Rapid Reaction Force deployed on Mount Igman to support the task of NATO's aircraft by pounding Serb artillery positions.[19] The Force was commanded by British Lieutenant General Dick Applegate.[20] On 30 August 1995, a French Mirage 2000 was shot down by a Serbian shoulder-fired SAM near Pale.[21] On 1 September 1995, NATO and UN demanded the lifting of the Serb's Siege of Sarajevo, removal of heavy weapons from the heavy weapons exclusion zone around Sarajevo, and complete security of other UN safe areas. NATO stopped the air raids and gave an ultimatum to Bosnian Serb leaders. The deadline was set as 4 September. On 5 September 1995, NATO resumed air attacks on Bosnian Serb positions around Sarajevo and near the Bosnian Serb headquarters at Pale after the Bosnian Serbs failed to comply with UN demands to lift heavy weapons around Sarajevo. On the night of 10 September 1995, the Ticonderoga class cruiser USS Normandy launched a Tomahawk missile strike from the central Adriatic Sea against a key air defense radio relay tower at Lisina, near Banja Luka, while U.S. Air Force F-15E and U.S. Navy F/A-18 fighter-bombers hit the same targets with about a dozen precision-guided bombs, and F-16 jets attacked with Maverick missiles.[22][23] On 14 September 1995, NATO air strikes were suspended to allow the implementation of an agreement with Bosnian Serbs, to include the withdrawal of heavy weapons from the Sarajevo exclusion zone. The initial 72 hour suspension was eventually extended to 114 hours. Finally on 20 September 1995, General Bernard Janvier (Commander, UNPF) and Admiral Leighton W. Smith, Jr. (CINCSOUTH) agreed that resumption of air strikes of Operation Deliberate Force was not necessary as Bosnian Serbs had complied with the conditions set out by the UN and as a result the operation was terminated.[24] The air campaign was key to pressure on Miloevi’s Yugoslavia to take part in negotiations that resulted in the Dayton Peace Agreement reached in November 1995.[25] In December 1995, NATO dispatched 60,000 peacekeeping force into Bosnia as part of the IFOR to enforce the Dayton Peace Agreement to secure peace and prevent renewed hostilities between three warring factions. In December 1996, the NATO-led SFOR was established to replace the IFOR to enforce the Dayton Peace Agreement. This lasted up until December 2004 when the NATO-led SFOR is replaced by the EUFOR Althea.
You should read your own links. The Secretary General was a Belgian. France, Germany, U.S., Italy, India, Sweden, Canada and Great Britain.
You're probably referring to H.R. 4655 which was signed to help try to remove a ruthless dictator from power. The U.S. and Britain did the bombing over 4 days because Saddam refused to follow UN resolutions.
Clinton did increase the budget... he increased it to modernize the U.S. military with these new fangled computers that had becom
umm w.a.s.p... were they not white anglo-saxon protestants? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093796/British-tourists-arrested-America-terror-charges-Twitter-jokes.html
That's assuming the military goes along with it. Having been in the military myself, and having family still in, I can tell you know that there are no orders issued by any commanding officer that would cause them to open fire on U.S. citizens unless their own lives were in imminent danger.
as opposed to the 2 .exe's i clicked to root my HTC HD2. I'd rather not have to putz around editing registries when I don't have to. Though my skill level provides me the knowledge to do so, time is something I do not care to waste.
I can see your ultra literal interpretation, but really, come on.
Really, no 6.5? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/06/windows-mobile-6-5-review/
And the windows mobile 6.5 sdk from MS.... http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=5389
Phone reps aren't stupid, atleast not any more stupid than any other sales reps. They push what they know they can sell and they can sell iPhones and Android phones. If a rep tries to push WP phones on me, first question is, "Is it rootable?". "Can I install Android on it?" if no, then move along.
Blame everyone but yourselves for making phones that are NOT feature rich and running a shitty OS. My phone was a native WP 6.5 phone. It now has WP 6.5 (never use), WP 7 (never use), 3 builds of Android and 1 build of Ubuntu.... Oh and it's an HTC. I used to be a huge Nokia fan form back in the day when I sold them, but now...get with the program folks.
Phones should be like build your own pc's. You sell me the hardware, I choose which OS I want on it. In the end, that's how it's going to be for me and one of the major reasons I have not upgraded in 2 years.
Don't get me wrong, I am of the opinion that the government is in the wrong here. I merely pointed out an inaccuracy in an analogy. This is commonplace here you know...
I fight for my rights, I don't see many that do. I wore a uniform, I shipped overseas, I operated on behalf of our government thinking that I was defending the rights of U.S. citizens. Today i fight with my signature, my vote and my sway with others. The U.S. government or any government can come after me and try to take my rights, but they won't get them without a fight.
I don't disagree. However, the argument for a suit lies in the FBI deleting the files, which they haven't and can't. They are only limiting access to and removing the ability to pay for the upkeep. their reasoning would be that legit users would have to file suit against mega* to get reparations.
Can't sue unless the government says you can. Remember, the FTCA does not cover everything involved here. Also, the FBI isn't deleting anything. They removed access for users, as well as seized the accounts used to pay the bills to the server companies. It would be Carpathia and Cogent doing the deletion due to the bills not being paid.
not quite. Its like the FBI seizing all units of a storage facility where the storage facility itself is believed to be storing illegal materials on the premises. The case about them isn't about users storing illegal materials, its about them knowingly allowing it, hindering the ability for the rights holders to remove it and building their entire business based on those illegal materials.
public votes. Senate / Reps propose the bills, the citizenry votes. This would have to have some heavy legislation behind it so that idiots aren't swindled into thinking something is good for them.